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Post by Иррина » Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:52

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Class :ay I am glad that there is a lot of interesting))) I Will practice :)
At the same time question :oops: (at work, I work with money and I'm to the point I'm afraid to make a mistake and transfer too much that the shoulders, forearms much driving) How best to formulate the goal, to feel calmer and more confident?
I remember that thread You wrote that the activity cannot be a goal, but then what do I need to do to make the situation improved? Something not so I do with "proper goal setting":roll: something shortly :oops:

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:28

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But if You make a mistake, what will happen (worst :))?

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Post by Иррина » Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:21

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Will have to pay out of pocket family)) :shock:

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:36

Иррина wrote:Andrei Patrushev
Will have to pay out of pocket family)) :shock:
And what this means to You?

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Post by Иррина » Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:31

I mean - how I feel?

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Thu Jun 16, 2011 13:24

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Feelings always arise about attitudes and beliefs - what will be behind these feelings?

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Post by Иррина » Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:03

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The belief that I can't do anything. And on account of the installation - something did not occur :oops:

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:53

Иррина wrote:Andrei Patrushev
The belief that I can't do anything. And on account of the installation - something did not occur :oops:
And that means to You that "nothing does not work"?

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Post by Иррина » Fri Jun 17, 2011 14:38

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In this case - to work quickly and without error

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Fri Jun 17, 2011 14:50

Иррина wrote:Andrei Patrushev
In this case - to work quickly and without error
Don't be evasive. :wink: I'm asked - what's behind the fact that "nothing happens" and not what to do to avoid this.

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Post by Иррина » Sat Jun 18, 2011 20:50

Андрей Патрушев wrote:No need to prevaricate. Wink I'm asked - what's behind the fact that "nothing happens" and not what to do to avoid this.
Yes, Ah, puzzled))) :roll: Maybe my insecurity?

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Sun Jun 19, 2011 18:03

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Андрей Патрушев wrote:No need to prevaricate. Wink I'm asked - what's behind the fact that "nothing happens" and not what to do to avoid this.
Yes, Ah, puzzled))) :roll: Maybe my insecurity?
Well, okay... But whose is the belief that "nothing does not work"?

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Post by Иррина » Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:11

Андрей Патрушев wrote:Well... who's that belief that "nothing happens"?
Here, you begin to understand))) the Belief of this is mine. It appeared when I started to compare their results (and I work less than a month) with the work of the girls that works with me on the same shift (and it has been working for two years!!!). You highlight a word nothing, and I did not react))) Nothing is exaggeration on my failures, which can do all the beginners. So - this is normal)) And speed and confidence will come when accumulated experience. And the fact that they come to work in time, trying to remember the sequence of all operations and, in General, trying to do a good job, I really had not considered. So happened that I had all her successes negated(( Andrew, thanks that helped to understand. And so would live with nothing :wiz Now, I think it will fit and approval of E. Coue, "every day of my life, in all respects better and better and better." :D Is that right?))) And the goal then is to learn to notice their success" ? So? :oops:
PS Want to develop Your "manual" "Proper goal setting", but I don't have examples of which you can navigate. Maybe can I fix it? I mean - add examples. Sorry for the persistence :o

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Mon Jun 20, 2011 20:10

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Very good! :ay
But let's dig in... Try to relax and think about it: When You first learned to believe in the belief that "nothing does not work". Usually, well enough to relax and this episode of life itself will emerge in the mind...

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Post by Карапуз » Mon Jun 20, 2011 23:44

Processing of postulates by the book, L. kin to help.

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Post by Иррина » Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:50

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Particularly relaxing is not necessary, because I assumed it was from my childhood, but not specifically recalled. Just thought when I wrote the previous message. And then, when I went on business, these (three) memories surfaced themselves in the background. And I guess I would not pay attention to them, if You hadn't suggested it. I just want to clarify (I think) that I have not learned to believe in such a statement. Then - in my childhood, I decided that my efforts are not needed or not important at all. So everything - the idea itself, and his self-fulfillment and joyful anticipation that the other person too will be pleased with your gift as if extinguished. :shock: As if they did not in my perception. Disappeared.

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Post by Иррина » Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:58

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Fri Jun 24, 2011 15:42

Иррина wrote:Andrei Patrushev
Particularly relaxing is not necessary, because I assumed it was from my childhood, but not specifically recalled. Just thought when I wrote the previous message. And then, when I went on business, these (three) memories surfaced themselves in the background. And I guess I would not pay attention to them, if You hadn't suggested it. I just want to clarify (I think) that I have not learned to believe in such a statement. Then - in my childhood, I decided that my efforts are not needed or not important at all. So everything - the idea itself, and his self-fulfillment and joyful anticipation that the other person too will be pleased with your gift as if extinguished. :shock: As if they did not in my perception. Disappeared.
Well!
Now, I ask You again: "So, whose beliefs?" :wink:

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Post by Иррина » Fri Jun 24, 2011 17:58

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- it turns out that are NOT mine)) :) Thanks that helped to understand it.

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Fri Jun 24, 2011 18:23

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Fri Jun 24, 2011 21:17

I feel that it would be necessary to explain what we did here. :)
Core beliefs about myself, about the safety or, conversely, the dangers of this world and about the relations between people are laid in early childhood, basically up to 4 years. At this time the child is in percent with respect to learns more than in the rest of my life. It is literally like a sponge, absorb new knowledge, mainly from parents or(and) other significant adults. However, this process continues for the entire period of childhood. During childhood critical thinking is weak, but at any age, one of the most remarkable features of the brain is an outstanding ability to generalize. The difference between people in how and what they use this ability. Some make outstanding discoveries, others (while, however, not infrequently, the same :?) to claim that "all around bastards"...
In childhood we revered parents, however, and requirements, the strictest. For example, the child wanted to do something to please their parents - tried and looked forward to their positive response. Of course he did it to the best of their abilities and ideas: "mother give me a kiss and, of course, Yuri, look, as we cut cleverly your Fox" :? Parents are people too, :) and often their reactions to their children's actions from life - health and mood, and naturally their beliefs (which in the majority were formed in early childhood). Sometimes - scary to think - even an ordinary revenge on the other parent (e.g., mother loves her son, but always bad when it speaks of throwing them to the Pope and other men). And, welcome to, our reaction is limited to listing what is and what is not done and explaining what and how to do next time to get. And all this kindly, with love and understanding, where will this lead the child in the future... But often the reaction is accompanied by the angry phrases in the spirit of antiaffirmative: "Well, why do you always so clumsy? You never get! You only think about the pleasures!" etc etc. Sometimes (depending on the intensity of the emotion) rather than once, in another case, similar episodes are superimposed and reinforce each other (air conditioning experience in Gropu). Thus, instead of receiving praise and approval of condemnations, the child is taught to believe in belief, which he demonstrates by his behavior an adult, that is, the child begins to believe what an adult believes that a child ... . Moreover, if for an adult it may just be a random episode due to his mood and physical condition, and his response relates exclusively to a particular case, the child, with its remarkable ability to generalize, and, sadly, thanks to the deep love and trust to a significant adult, learns to believe in this conviction for the rest of my life. And, as we above noticed, people are so fused with this belief that is was not ready to understand that it is only one day a learned response, about someone's reaction to a single act of his in this life. These beliefs are fairly easy to detect (of course, at first, and then gradually and :)) the so-called "quantifiers of community": all, none, all, none, every, any, always, never, etc.. Yes, when You hear those words - "quantifiers community", then rest assured - they are hiding some kind of belief. Therefore, when You encounter any limiting belief You then just relax and ask yourself: "When was the first time I learned to believe in this belief "..."? That it happened to me that made me believe in ...?" Pretty soon (maybe immediately, maybe during the day) You will receive a response in the form of sentimental memories. Try to figure out and fix for themselves - who, in fact, these beliefs about what single act they formed and does it make sense (useful?) continue to generalize them to the rest of his life. Even such a simple procedure is able to greatly weaken the impact of negative beliefs on Your further life...
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Post by Петрос » Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:18

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thanks mate ... for our happy childhood! :)

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