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Post by пенто » Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:39

Where can I take this alpha Training? :ap

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Re: 2. Alpha training.

Post by ЛИЛИЯ-Р » Wed Jun 19, 2013 12:40

Pento, sign up for a workshop on Masinam, the topic here on the forum.

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Re: 2. Alpha training.

Post by к-13 » Wed Jun 19, 2013 12:57

He is also the user manual will read, Lille))) With DSP the same parsley was. I remind you - who will ask the questions raised in the description of the stage and the security requirements, I will throw out from the list of participants without warning. It is not my whim - only attempt to reduce the number of those who will have problems from the workshop on the background of the misuse of my own head.

"RTFM", as correctly noted by ZOMBIES - all the problems of humanity with technology from silly reluctance to read the manual... As a method scientific to do so all the smart, and how the problem of errors came up, so once the manufacturer is to blame. FIGUSHKI! If you do not break requirements, no harm can not be. And not to use too fail - is that only if you really, really try to spoil everything)))

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Re: 2. Alpha training.

Post by пенто » Wed Jun 19, 2013 14:55

ЛИЛИЯ-Р wrote:Pento, sign up for a workshop on Masinam, the topic here on the forum.
Hi Lily,good to see you. :oops:
к-13 wrote:He is also the user manual will read, Lille)))


I chevoit not understand? What your Royal person hints? ..Hmm..or rather to whom ?
Generally with the above written I am quite a reasonable question to ask yourself (words, songs of the Soviet composers).

"If converged wedge white Light", in the local tubercle of the K-13 ?

Yes, like as not.
Well, no..mean there. :?

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Post by ЛИЛИЯ-Р » Wed Jun 19, 2013 15:22

Pento, here you nobody forced to tanut will not. K-13 purely out of his kindness spends his time to help newcomers learn not only Machine, but also give many new and interesting. Buy rims Patrushev, there is no long instructions, no.Kings, too, Everything is clear and available to anyone, water , drive water, 15 or 21 day slushaite daily and no looking on the forum.Their own commander. Everything works FINE.

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Re: 2. Alpha training.

Post by к-13 » Wed Jun 19, 2013 15:29

And thank the gods az kiss would be for such decisions.
Trainings and workshops are now missing, I prefer to work with those who not only ask, but also to read what is already written. Don't want to waste your time on those who do not need it. The use of such will not be the problem of the roof - "I do not work (I last week once listened and today, as normal, right?)", the "I can't listen, can you send me all at once" and immediately, "why not?!" (and it is clear that already and listen never be - the main thing in the trash a little more in reserve to cram to be).
And on affectation those I have a side - tomorrow I will wipe and forget...

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Re: 2. Alpha training.

Post by пенто » Wed Jun 19, 2013 15:51

Yeah Lily , that's understandable. But perhaps that is subject to open, and call it just "Answers For Dummies"

After all, some of K-19 world picture is quite clear. He has long been here quite accustomed.
But it is obvious to K-19, can be quite not obvious for newcomers.

As you see Lilia, it's divided into castes there....., or "spirits" and "Dembele"?

I do believe that it is not quite right. After all, it is obvious that some "Dembele" "Navigators" do not help, and it shows in their behavior. Dek also teach taken....))

Here for example I. I have a "Navigator", and there are simple practical issues.
I came here yesterday, and what ? Why I moved the way a Great Guru ?
How did this happen ???
And if tomorrow will be another happy owner, he should first read casuistry "sun"?
In this case, we need a Navigator to make a much cheaper, which would compensate...... the possible moral and psychological damage)))
Here for example in the "Questions for Dummies", which you probably know will flow continually, as the sale of Your equipment
It will be possible to constantly respond to the same questions.

What's the big deal?

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Re: 2. Alpha training.

Post by ЛИЛИЯ-Р » Wed Jun 19, 2013 17:20

1. Open topic what is it? The Navigators are a separate issue, and it has all the topics which helps the beginner how to upload additional session and which programs to use in the first place, and functionality of the device.

2. K-19 as you put it , it is the same To-13 freelance MM, therefore leads a workshop as you put it ,For Dummies to the same K-13 to begin properly and use a MM session.

3.Caste no one here is not divided, on the contrary , experienced users help the newbies.

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Re: 2. Alpha training.

Post by к-13 » Wed Jun 19, 2013 18:36

пенто wrote:Well, Lily , it's understandable. But perhaps that is subject to open, and call it just "Answers For Dummies"
On this forum a dozen of those under different names (frequently asked questions, questions, topics for each MM...), but all too lazy to read it. And yet it has this wonderful feature called "search" (upper right corner of the page). All of it is uninteresting - it is easier to write the question in the first topic (it already is in the first stage, by the way, and it is also not the place). With Your approach you need to open another dozen of those "answers" - for dummies, for the LAMER, for inexperienced users, for losers, for the first time logged on to the forum for those who are in the tank for those who are on the train, to far from the topic, for mugs and for several dozen categories. This set must be for Navigator, and to innerpulse and new, and lumy, and even for each available disk. And each are asked the same, and ten times because there is bound to be a lot of pages and not read one I want. By the way, you have read the rules of conduct on the forum? Your behavior can be classified as flood.
пенто wrote:How do you think Lily will be properly divided into castes there....., or "spirits" and "Dembele"?
I am from the caste of officer - my main task - working with the spirits. Those who want to work and who only popontovatsya - so I did the scruff to pull not going.
пенто wrote:I do believe that it is not quite right. After all, it is obvious that some "Dembele" "Navigators" do not help, and it shows in their behavior. Dek still learning get....))
Very flat You have an idea of normal human communication... there is No degree of development (above average) does not allow a person to put up with rudeness and ignorance. Those who spit on the order phototesting site - just pretending.
One good news is for You personally participated in my workshop closed :)
пенто wrote:so for example, I. I have a "Navigator", and there are simple practical issues.
I came here yesterday, and what ? Why I moved the way a Great Guru ?
How did this happen ???
You came here a little earlier, and the themes of Pathfinder and DSP has already shown that to read the manuals You are too lazy and make a complaint easily. If you look, it is Your own perception made me angry and nervous))) I just said Leela, "He's the same and the user manual will read" (or am I wrong and You would make an exception, carefully read all that is necessary?), the rest You do not concerned, applies to all fans ask stupid answers and to all progressive mankind. And what was the response? Colorful, vivid, emotional! One feast for the eyes))) It's called "inadequate response to criticism" :lol:

PS: In the workshop "involved" more than 60 people. From the outset it was 40, but a month and a half to the second stage (two-week reference point) got much less. One has real problems with muscle clamps, and the rest just for the company record - to-have. I'm not a seller of magic wands, I'm a coach who doesn't want to work hard, do not get results. You before taking showed that nothing will come of it. Congratulations! You have saved your and my time.<

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Re: 2. Alpha training.

Post by пенто » Wed Jun 19, 2013 19:12

к-13 wrote:One good news is for You personally participated in my workshop closed :)
Thank You very much, You amused me. :lol:

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Re: 2. Alpha training.

Post by к-13 » Wed Jun 19, 2013 23:59

I'm glad I managed to cheer You up :) Leave the subject.

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Re: Record of participants at workshop on new MM.

Post by Михаил_ » Thu Jul 25, 2013 23:46

and why the heck the ad hanging in all themes at once and not just in the theme of mm? request of my themes to remove

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Post by к-13 » Thu Jul 25, 2013 23:55

Good afternoon.
As I understand it, you need to register. Honestly, I do not understand where.
If you give a link to the recording, I would be grateful.
Saw in one of you links to download the files from Yandex disk, but the reference is not working.
Thank you in advance for answer and files.

"The files each enrolled member will receive a PM. Who needs access to the folder with the stage on Yandex-disk (for easy downloading), you can send me your e-mail address for the invitation."
Have a good night.

The link I will not give You.

The fact that this screening inattentive readers who cannot find a theme entry for participation in the section of the workshop, that you can not proceed to the workshop - such participants do not read the safety requirements, conditions of participation, a description of the stage... And the problem is not in that circle then they are asking for not just the questions (conceived even unrelated to the question topic) - because they violate those items which should be treated very carefully and seriously, then they have no result, and even problems...
And the problems don't need neither You nor me, so let's You make a choice for yourself - or to read carefully (in the subject, which was anachronistic, and an explanation of why they don't work, and in large letters and in bold), or to not participate at all. The third option is not interesting - You will receive a file of the adjustment period, but then will not move, adding to those statistics, "on which MM is not valid" (not sure these even exist, but very many who do not quite correctly understand the working principle of the device / files, so are not working properly and on the basis of this get not the same result).

I have personal messages as much as 4 outbound that was sent to members, but they were not received participating more on the forum did not go...

Sincerely, Roman.

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Re: Record of participants at workshop on new MM.

Post by к-13 » Fri Jul 26, 2013 0:22

I don't know whether Vladimir Nikonov to ask

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Re: Record of participants at workshop on new MM.

Post by Михаил_ » Fri Jul 26, 2013 0:32

yeah, apparently a glitch of the engine.

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Re: Record of participants at workshop on new MM.

Post by к-13 » Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:16

Well, had to pull as much in Switzerland, so the tails for me put :oops:
Decided to make a topic is important, so that less people have been looking for, for some reason she got all in each section on the forum (honestly not shaman) and I back neither unimportant nor I can not delete - I have only right here and it's all over the forum.

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Re: Record of participants at workshop on new MM.

Post by Алехандро » Mon Aug 12, 2013 22:32

I apologize in advance if I write not in that subject...

Well, in General, on Saturday purchased the device in the store. Began to ask the lady in the office, how to use, in what order to listen to session how to make this gate drives, etc. Something, I thanks, told.

But generally advised to register in the forum, supposedly here in one of branches someone expert gives practical advice, so to speak helping to make an individual program depending on the status and goals of the person... said literally step by step advise on what and how long to use, and then moving on to the next...

Once again I apologize, I'm an absolute beginner in this subject, but very interested in, so I need the details for steam to paint everything...

The purpose for doing it at the moment priority are:

1. Calm the nervous system, to stop worry and experience stress often occasions, which, as it turns out, not worth it (for example with the work periodically panic is what occurs)
2. Definitely want to quit Smoking for good or to abandon it, no matter how formulated
3. Do speed reading according to the method of O. Andreeva (knock-rhythm, green dot, the extension of the field of view, autogenic training, in short all that is there on the first step of learning), I would like to use Navigator to improve concentration and perception of these techniques, and also to improve memory

While serious about meditation or lucid dreaming not thought seriously.

Please describe what the session will approach these goals, better numbers specific sessions, specifying the time, frequency and frequency of use, when to move on to the next, etc. It is also interesting how this Supplement\alternate disks Patrushev Patrushev or not?! :)
Please also note that I'm still very confused in alpha, beta, theta, terminology, phases, transitions, embodiments of the modulation signal, in short for me this Chinese puzzle yet, so
that please accessible language, if someone will undertake to explain! :( How much just do the average, you need to engage with the device to feel a decent effect in real life?<

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Re: Record of participants at workshop on new MM.

Post by к-13 » Mon Aug 12, 2013 23:11

Alejandrowhat You do is called "multiposting" and violates the rules of conduct on the forum. Regardless of how many times to apologize for it. To this communication I replied to a thread "Novice Navigator".
And given that You've read this topic and even the name of it is not penetrated, then as a "flood" can be described.
In this topic you need to write another message.

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Re: Record of participants at workshop on new MM.

Post by Алехандро » Mon Aug 12, 2013 23:23

K-13, okay okay, do not boil. I duplicated here because the branch only after the publication of the message noticed that the previous message is dated much before my from which I concluded that the subject a little visit and my question might just be answered.
I will not write here, if it is strictly a special branch of the Workshop. I probably still too early for such a workshop to take place.

In any case, it was my first post on the forum, so I think before to write this into a flooder.
I didn't want to hurt Your professional moderator principles, so I apologize and stop.

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Re: Record of participants at workshop on new MM.

Post by к-13 » Tue Aug 13, 2013 0:03

Алехандро wrote:K-13, okay okay, do not boil.
And in thoughts was not - I'm bored to read these pieces of music twice and this is the only emotion that You have called me...
Алехандро wrote:I posted here because in the branch only after the publication of the message noticed that the previous message is dated much before my from which I concluded that the subject a little visit and my question might just be answered.
Those who are on the forum a few longer than ten days, with almost no options have been New messages - there do not care, when was the last visit - if somewhere on the forum there is a new question, it will be read.
Алехандро wrote:I will not write here, if it is strictly a special branch of the Workshop. I probably still too early for such a workshop to take place.
This entire section specifically for the workshop. While the workshop primarily focused on the introduction to the work with mind-machine. Can read this topic viewtopic.php?f=47&t=5203 and at the same time in this section introductory lesson and decide You need it or not. Miracles not guaranteed, but if you work, nothing is impossible.
Алехандро wrote:In any case, it was my first post on the forum, so I think before to write this into a flooder.
Well, clothes make the man (first reports), and escorted to the mind. No hang You the labels, I just warned that You are violating the generally accepted rules of Internet etiquette. The main objective of the conference is the accumulation of experience, not getting rid of the need to read it.
Алехандро wrote:I didn't mean to hurt Your professional moderator principles, so I apologize and stop.
I'm a fan... you Decide - you are welcome.<

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Re: Record of participants at workshop on new MM.

Post by к-13 » Tue Oct 08, 2013 22:19

IdlerYou think it's weird that in this topic is just Your opinion?

Last warning - read carefully. I understand that it was TO improve attention and concentration.

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Re: Record of participants at workshop on new MM.

Post by Лоботряс » Wed Oct 09, 2013 19:27

Me some time it is difficult to surprise. )
First and last warning? Well, so as always - all by myself, all by myself...
Thank you, a free man for-13 from the Kuban! Good luck in the hard work! )

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Re: Record of participants at workshop on new MM.

Post by к-13 » Wed Oct 09, 2013 23:15

Лоботряс wrote:Well, all sorts of positive thoughts in my head - all are good, all-around good... ))
:ay This, apparently, was one of positivos :?
Catch the change:
"Guilty to be my destiny!"-
Said the photographer, "I
Eyes squinted, twisted your feet,
Your belly is also I'm drunk..."
:lol:
Лоботряс wrote:Me some time it is difficult to surprise. )
I propose to recall what I wrote to You personally in the introductory message about lobotryas. Therefore, the selection in the direction of obvious disrespect to me quite predictable what to read, what I'm trying to write as much detail as possible when you can if anything just to splash a saliva and proudly to blame all your sins. And I personally do not want to waste their time trying to chew ten times the same thing and rattling off quotes that I wrote in the "must read topics", especially for those who do not need it - still after a week announced another, which mnogabukav, and will have to start from the beginning. This training is for those who are willing to work.
First and last warning? Well, so as always - all by myself, all by myself...
Thank you, a free man for-13 from the Kuban! Good luck in the hard work! )
Please accept my sincere mutual wishes of good luck on the path of self-employment - that's just it there is nothing complicated.

Frankly, the remark made only to test the veracity of the opinion - well, not a man, which describes the world after alpha-training in colors and paints (became more tolerant to people, closer to work, more positive reactions to stimuli and General psychological stability has become the elephant), in response to a harmless remark to break out of hysteria. The criticism was quite adequate, but the reaction was followed by talking - and she said that someone lied with three boxes in the review (well, a bit exaggerated, but it is still too early to move on).<

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Re: Record of participants at workshop on new MM.

Post by Лоботряс » Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:28

Bravo, Maestro!
However, as much attention to my modest person! ))
Here what I thought. I'm your daily contact with live customers. And You wouldn't believe sometimes I want to shoot customer... because he does not understand what he said because he did not hear what he say and he only listens to himself... But I have got learned to restrain their emotions. Only managers sometimes see my mind when I "accidentally" turn away from the visitor...
Bring You, to-13, my sincere apologies again.

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Re: Record of participants at workshop on new MM.

Post by к-13 » Thu Oct 10, 2013 18:00

Лоботряс wrote:Bring You, to-13, my sincere apologies again.
Something I first time (and possibly other previous) is not noticed :? And in a sense they do not see, to be honest - why apologize when you can just improve.
Лоботряс wrote:Here what I thought. I'm your daily contact with live customers. And You wouldn't believe sometimes I want to shoot customer... because he does not understand what he said because he did not hear what he say and he only listens to himself... But I have got learned to restrain their emotions. Only managers sometimes see my mind when I "accidentally" turn away from the visitor...
And I thought about something else: since when You become my client? Or customer?
The collective farm - is voluntary, who want to work - work. And those who are not able to force myself to read carefully all 4 offers a personal message with instructions for joining the workshop (and even the gush of emotions when they at this point) are forest - they likewise did not read safety requirements, to comply with recommendations for exercise... the result of complications, negative side effects, but the results are usually the floor... Besides, such individuals spoil the statistics (no one knows who and how it worked, but there were those who only thought about work, but was very upset that the only reason his results are not flooded) and interfere with the work of others (though the fact that their cries scare away those interested), not to mention the subsequent negative reviews (still, it's not them robotronica, this program sucks, a leading ham and the content disgusting, but I'm not too lazy) - what do I here people, who are trying to ruin it? So I'd rather reduce the total number of participants in favor of working on the result, the time that I spend on these discussions and endless repetition many times already announced, I will be able to pay the people who really deserve this. Although the choice is still with the party.

And unencumbered by the attention/respect/intelligence "live customers" to me and without this forum enough. They, by the way, I also sew - it is easier to miss a small gain than to amass a large hemorrhoids :lol:
Лоботряс wrote:Bravo, Maestro!
However, as much attention to my modest person! ))
Too predictable reaction 9 out of 10 lazy that I had to face, behaved this way. And only one tried to accept his mistake and correct it. Honestly, the point of this in the end often still did not have any, but the fact of the attempts already made the series a little less lazy. At least for a brief moment. Maybe give it a try?

PS: I have nothing to keep any negative emotions in Your address, I don't experience - if you want to participate, no one bothers You. Just write the reviews where it should, and read carefully the recommendations for practice (in any case it is in Your best interest - you never know what else has escaped the understanding, and at stake after all, Your own head).
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