2. Alpha training.

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Re: 2. Alpha training.

Post by Фан-том » Sat Apr 19, 2014 19:06

I congratulate all with the feast!
Now I drink a lot of water. Thrown out of the diet teas, as diuretics and drying the body (which impairs the ability to relax).
Go to an osteopath and floating in the center. By the way, I recommend to all who have intractable tension in the body.
In the recent past I visited one doctor, so he's acting on some point of the body was introduced into such a deep state of rest that even hyperactive children bespokoynogo himself he felt! When listening just tend to such a deep peace...
A vooobsche realize 3 degree of relaxation:
1. After a busy day ustakanilsya thoughts and otuonye of the pressing issues of the day!
2. Directly dip in the relaxation, (flight or hovering)
3. Hlubocepy peace, finding in the depths of consciousness...

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Re: 2. Alpha training.

Post by к-13 » Sat Apr 19, 2014 21:20

Добромиръ wrote:Forgot to write in the evenings after the beginning of the workshop began to fall asleep (4-5 times) around the second half of the session, I feel like if I fell and time passed quickly. Then Wake up roughly at once Seems to be enough sleep, in the morning, get up without an alarm clock. What can I do?
The easiest option - a Tibetan account. To slowly, to breathe deeply and evenly, concentrating on the breath while mentally counting the breaths at the Kuga from one to ten. Each alarm or abstract idea is fixed and the account begins again with one (the reset cycle). If the account is lost or suddenly forgotten the previous number (in principle this is the same reason here - abstract thought), the score starts again from one. In any case, when there is a hitch, the score starts again from one. Then the mind will be engaged and will not put the brain (failed bills occurs just at the moment before falling asleep - if you delay and miss a few breaths in this point, it is unlikely to continue to consider the brain wakes up only at the end of the session).

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Re: 2. Alpha training.

Post by Владер » Sun Apr 20, 2014 7:57

к-13 wrote:Vladerif there are disks Patrushev "Explorer" or "Healing...", that if you have problems on a physical level as it is possible (and perhaps even preferable) to use in the second phase. Also programs threshold and progressive relaxation for a Navigator to help you relax, although there is a bias more on theta.
There are "Explorer" and "Healing." Something I forgot about them. Preslusao course, then come back to alpha again.
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Re: 2. Alpha training.

Post by Гильгамеш » Mon Apr 21, 2014 21:40

A period of rest from the session. Is there something to work out , to return to the workshop more successfully to master it?

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Re: 2. Alpha training.

Post by к-13 » Mon Apr 21, 2014 22:36

Гильгамеш wrote:a Period of rest from the session. Is there something to work out , to return to the workshop more successfully to master it?
Well, given the fact that the rest, better than anything associated with audio-visual stimulation not to use... All to be distracted by something else, by putting a reminder on your phone or mark on a wall calendar.
And there is much useful than to do...

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Re: 2. Alpha training.

Post by Добромиръ » Tue Apr 22, 2014 21:06

Tried Tibetan account from falling asleep in the evening - fell asleep already for 3 hours, the next day a session for 2 hours. After that do not normally fall asleep, the technique worked.
Put another anchor touch the tip of the tongue of the sky.

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Re: 2. Alpha training.

Post by к-13 » Tue Apr 22, 2014 21:57

Dobromirgood technique not only helps in the alpha include not falling asleep, but much deeper. She even could apply. For example, I sometimes use this technique to directly entering a lucid dream - just think of the breaths as you exhale say "It's a dream". You can just picture the target site to hold. Or on the exhale to give yourself installation - for example, "relax" to speed up the dives, "all is well", "I can ..." (to jump with a parachute, a rope, talk to the boss about a raise, to solve this problem...), "I like ..." (little did we unjustifiably do not like) or something... the Result is highly dependent on the fitness and self-esteem, some with the phrase "I'm warm" literally transforms himself into a walrus and safely without training dive in the Epiphany ice-hole.

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Re: 2. Alpha training.

Post by Фан-том » Wed Apr 23, 2014 17:14

Good day! Want to share your thoughts!
Congestion of the brain and the mind can be compared to puzzles, and even better with all the famous game Tetris! So during the day we sypitsya the flow of information! Some ideas we like (fit into our worldview), some uncomfortable (litter, etc)! As often happens in the morning once in a bad situation/conversation, the whole day goes wrong! Solomin early in the day "workspace", there is less space for the flight of thought! Or by getting a good start moving on the wave the whole day! So great is the ability to gather "to break the software the wheat from the chaff".
Depending on how the brain processes and distributes old and is our mood/attitude to life and as a consequence character!
Why do some of the scratches on the car, comes out and yells like a victim, and someone knocking a tooth out, walks smiles a toothless smile!
I want to ask about what Robert stone calls guided imagery, applying it to this workshop, it is also because the anchor?
Using daily treatments morning and evening is based on the following aspects: pronunciation of the installation, breath, account, symbol, sound, gesture on his fingers. Some in several versions! Obtained Here are the samoregulyatorami, which "smooth" the negative (littering) which forms during the day/life!

Thank you for your attention, waiting for comments and new stage...

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Re: 2. Alpha training.

Post by к-13 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 21:13

Fan-Tomit seems to me, or someone someone teeth talks to you? :lol:

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Re: 2. Alpha training.

Post by Фан-том » Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:10

Hmmm...Why so? Or I have something to say? May sound like a charmed\razgovarivaem\the pronunciation! Forum for the discussion and the workshop to work on yourself! Isn't it?
I do according to your requirements, and recommendations 2 of the period of 21 days of adaptation and the same alpha training! Already has developed a strong understanding of this condition, with mechanisms of self-regulation, achievement and of being in it! Also reading books of the above author in this area, I can say the following: in a moment of relaxation imagine not image picture, and the whole episode is moving in the glass Elevator with the bill! So if everything goes smoothly, steady state, and if irregular, it has Nagorskaya! Moving forward is a natural process! And this is who as it turns out, but Rome was not built... but not mistaken only one who does nothing!

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Re: 2. Alpha training.

Post by к-13 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:11

Fan-Tomapparently not it seems...
Me through this stage only interested in 2 things - the degree of relaxation as a result of the sessions, and sustainability/efficiency of anchors. Guided imagery is not the anchor, is a process, a way of relaxing and applying this relaxation. And we then need is a "switch" - easy, simple, fast and at the same time as efficient as possible. Not because I find fault out of the blue just this bulky visual anchor will be very difficult to apply, including in conjunction with other anchors (especially if they are no less bulky).

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Re: 2. Alpha training.

Post by Фан-том » Thu Apr 24, 2014 17:28

So literaturka slightly pulled me to the side, will have to look for a more suitable one! The depth of relaxation, I realized at 3 points which were stated earlier. Spit that "switch" I have one gesture for the fingers, there is a certain breathing, pronunciation, etc. but the degree of filling, stability/efficiency how to determine? Here at the dentist all in the debugged machine worked! And mood before going, and the process..
But in everyday life, from day to day on the job, in fact the same moments! Enough to settle some willpower, some wait time, to breathe at the window, well, where is the anchor... and everything seems to be in itself all is quiet!
But to clarify: Take a basis of the athlete before the competition! On the eve of the performances need to calm down, relieve anxiety, mondrazh etc! For this approach the technique of deep relaxation! Directly on the performances, in certain moments, apply a soothing anchor! And for effective result, as I believe and need the flash beta! As it happens for the same work eyes a little, "zamylivaetsya" (a lot of information and not all of it is clear), the body not quite understand what was wanted of him! Maybe it will make sense to switch to beta, and then back with a break for alpha to move in how would lose?
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Re: 2. Alpha training.

Post by к-13 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 19:14

Well, just like that. Sent links.

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Re: 2. Alpha training.

Post by Добромиръ » Sun Apr 27, 2014 15:11

Do 15 a day. Set 2 anchors: connecting your thumb and middle finger of the left hand and touch the language of heaven. When activated, reproduces a little less by 70-80%. Relaxation during sessions became deeper, often become to feel that my arms and legs several times more and more metformine and filled with light, slightly vibrating energy. The Tibetan account helped relax deeper and faster.
What's next: 3 stage or continue to engage in stage 2?

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Re: 2. Alpha training.

Post by к-13 » Sun Apr 27, 2014 15:44

Добромиръ wrote:What's next: 3 stage or continue to engage in stage 2?
Based on this
Добромиръ wrote:Relaxation during the sessions became deeper, often become to feel that my arms and legs several times more and more metformine and filled with light, slightly vibrating energy.
It is worth to deepen the state as described is only a mild form of relaxation... But if you really want, I can translate.

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Re: 2. Alpha training.

Post by Добромиръ » Sun Apr 27, 2014 16:36

Well, another week to work out for the deepening. A link to the files 3 stage throw off, and it will soon have to leave for a couple of weeks where the Internet is weak.

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Re: 2. Alpha training.

Post by Добромиръ » Wed Apr 30, 2014 20:16

Do 18 day. In addition, that the limb warm during the sessions began to appear a feeling that hands, much less my legs are someone else's thing, saggy spread, only a feeling of warmth in the hands and feet somehow connects me with the limbs. The anchors began to work more efficient and faster.

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Re: 2. Alpha training.

Post by к-13 » Wed Apr 30, 2014 23:24

On good it is necessary to limbs this condition all over the body spread (otherwise the armature is defective), but Oh well, it's a good start. Then have to catch up.

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Re: 2. Alpha training.

Post by Джуди » Mon May 05, 2014 9:51

Doing 6 days.
During training in the weightless state to enter does not always work. (I think that it is quite important to achieve this state "way" of life - what you eat, how we move, how and what you think during the day. Noticed that it is easier to relax when during the day, eat only light foods - fruits, vegetables, and thoroughly do the cardio, worse relax or not work at all, when at work, sit all day, movements zero, but still eat something "ugly"...)

During deep (on my sensations - the body heats up, then as it dissolves) relaxation trying to put the anchor: on the exhale, pressing the tip of the tongue to the sky and "ordered" his, "relax." This weekend, tired of digging in the beds, decided to see how it goes. Something relaxing hand to elbow is almost in session, legs are completely. About the body is difficult to say, feeling strange, but still, cheer up - off to go go - is:)

Questions:
1. The direction of movement to the "anchoring" right?
2. May 9 will be 45 days from the start of the workshop. To take a break?
3. Husband abuses alcohol. In the book about MM I read that they are very successfully used to get rid of various dependencies. Persuaded to listen to at least a week and not to drink alcohol at this time. To date, 10 days of listening. He felt it was quieter, there was some "apathy", i.e. it works:)) the Question is - what kind of session it is better to listen to? ( I still give session of adaptation, sometimes from cars to select anything). I understand that the question, not to the specialist for treatment, but perhaps as you have knowledge on the "brains" enough and the experience is certainly there, you can tell the direction of motion "to the light".

Thank you very much for your attention and understanding!

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Re: 2. Alpha training.

Post by к-13 » Mon May 05, 2014 15:40

Джуди wrote:1. The direction of movement to the "anchoring" right?
Completely.
Джуди wrote:2. May 9 will be 45 days from the start of the workshop. To take a break?
Yes. If there is a desire in this period is something out of the workshop to do can the fourth stage to try (no sessions - only exercises and General guidelines).
Джуди wrote:3. Husband abuses alcohol. In the book about MM I read that they are very successfully used to get rid of various dependencies.
So. Even in Russia and the former Soviet Union that a lot of people engaged - in a search engine can drive "alpha rhythm and alcoholism" and to read, to watch the video - I think many things will become clearer.
was Persuaded to listen to at least a week and not to drink alcohol at this time. To date, 10 days of listening. He felt it was quieter, there was some "apathy", i.e. it works:)) the Question is - what kind of session it is better to listen to? ( I still give session of adaptation, sometimes from cars to select anything). I understand that the question, not to the specialist for treatment, but perhaps as you have knowledge on the "brains" enough and the experience is certainly there, you can tell the direction of motion "to the light".
You're doing it right :ay The ideal situation would be hearing the alpha sessions courses - 15 (21) days to listen to the same break after each course, a residual share of the accumulated fitness of the alpha rhythms will increase (non-combustible residue), and craving for alcohol in proportion to decline. People with well-pumped alpha can quite easily drink alcohol, but he does not bring them those moments of enjoyment as before, and unpleasant things still there, so consumption gradually naturally decreases, and many refuse completely. Then the accumulated alpha is gradually disappearing (a year or two, usually), and the habit to lead a sober lifestyle remains. Here, however, is still very much from a circle of acquaintances depends - I remember myself 5 years ago, completely abandoned alcohol and it was very hard to communicate with others. "Are you ill?" "You have no respect for the birthday boy?" "You do that, it's hard to drink with an old friend?"... In General. the reasons for resentment and indignation everyone was a hill with a trailer))) feasts each considered it his duty to persuade/to get a drink, then at least secretly pour vodka into a glass of juice or mineral water. Generally, after this step, my social circle has changed significantly, can't say. what was the worst.
Well, the mood is not the last role is played. If a person really wants to stop drinking, he has no alpha training alone, and if it does not, then with any lotion there is a reason to freak out. Alpha rhythms just make this task much easier.
Many (although the recommendations of the workshop clearly States that alcohol and MM are incompatible - one easy booze can result for weeks ago to drop, and sometimes even lead to complete disappearance of the developments and effects from listening to it, if the experience isn't great) at the moment of peak fitness at this stage to note that the drink was disgusting, if necessary literally force myself to pour in - the brain already has its share of alpha and for more stimulants (especially with such side effects), it is not needed, so there is a resistance at the physical level...<

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Re: 2. Alpha training.

Post by Джуди » Mon May 05, 2014 15:52

Thanks for the reply, this is understandable))
In the period of "rest" I would like to work out something out of the workshop if you can, post a link to the materials of the fourth stage, I would be very grateful :oops:

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Post by к-13 » Mon May 05, 2014 18:51

viewtopic.php?f=47&t=5345 - first post (all except the last four paragraphs), + exercise "new code NLP" in the second post painted.

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Re: 2. Alpha training.

Post by Владер » Mon May 12, 2014 6:28

Attended a course of 21 days: "Endorphins" in the morning, file Explorer at night.
Kind of health problems are resolved, exacerbation of less.
I think is ready for further work.
Roman, I need a break before alpha?

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Re: 2. Alpha training.

Post by Гильгамеш » Tue May 13, 2014 0:12

7th may continued alpha training. Am diary for yourself. Well disciplinarum, even if you don't want to write, still write what and when listened to. When you want to write - describe your feelings and observations in more detail. Well, I use a Tibetan account, not to fail in about a sleepy state. However, it is not always possible during long sessions (20 minutes or more) to keep your mind. I think training will be held. About relaxation. Managed one day to relax to such a state, when the body felt bulky, big head, and consciousness in this scenario, small small. Like a lot of emptiness around the place. Now strive to replicate this condition and fix it. The Tibetan account is very conducive. Difficult to relax the muscles of the neck, long time trying to find a position for the head to not hamper breathing and neck are relaxed as much as possible (do reclining). I noticed that there is no desire to quit alpha as before. The opposing voice silenced, stopped to whisper to give it up.
p.s. Sometimes there is fear, quite often, the sharp decrease any muscle.

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Re: 2. Alpha training.

Post by к-13 » Tue May 13, 2014 0:14

Владер wrote:Roman, I need a break before alpha?
Preferably. Here it is better perebdet, than nedobdet - faster and better will succeed.
The Council previous member can be used to fill the break.

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