1. The period of adaptation.

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by к-13 » Tue Dec 17, 2013 13:23

Still, we need to begin with sounds of nature.

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by Вячеслав. » Sun Dec 22, 2013 22:26

Hello.For obvious to himself reasons,made a pretty big break in practicum.Maybe it's good,now more consciously this approach.)There was a time,much to rethink.And most importantly came to realize how much it is powerful.And to approach it accordingly.

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by к-13 » Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:20

Reason just the same clear. Even predictable - remember that I Get when recording answered.
I hope this time everything will be fine.
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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by Олег Николаевич » Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:45

Good day!
Received the file on December 16, a week ago. Since then, every listen to them 1 time a day approximately at 19: 00, otherwise it is impossible. Liked the Ocean, but listening to all of the files in turn. At first listened to with great interest, and now beginning to kunati and Wake up to the fact that the head is "hanging" or "throws back", but continue to listen waking up.
Clarity of thought has honestly never complained about the lack of clarity of thinking, but after listening to (and during) periods in any special, you could even say interesting concentration, light enough, without the stress.

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by к-13 » Mon Dec 23, 2013 13:15

The head should lie on something, regardless of the posture - strained muscles of the neck, holding it in balance, do not give in the initial stage, located in the alpha.

When listening to 1 time per day during the adaptation period can take several courses with breaks.

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by Олег Николаевич » Mon Dec 23, 2013 19:09

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Thank you for the advice. Support the head will ensure that)) I'll Try to find time for a second times per day, but it's really hard, there is not calm around the hustle and bustle. At work during lunch time is usually quiet but people still walking around.
I am very well off from external noises and conversations while working, anyway, but if you sit quietly, close your eyes and listen to the music, it can be somewhat puzzling to others.

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by к-13 » Mon Dec 23, 2013 19:46

I do not insist, do as you want - just You should know that this regime of occupation, the result may be delayed - this will avoid a situation in which the frustration can come in the machine or the method, when after three or four weeks of clear results will not be. Some (about 20 percent of the total number observed me working in) alpha in this mode the class begins to work normally only after three to four courses of 21 days with breaks at the same- it depends on the overall morale of the habit to relax comes with a much larger time delays, if the head is constantly hammered unsolved problems day filled with worries and risks most outstanding dream of the organism, physiological problems (especially when a toothache or fresh injuries/burns, problems with the gastrointestinal tract and kidneys) etc.

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by Олег Николаевич » Tue Dec 24, 2013 15:26

Thanks again a novel!
Try to go for 3 meals a day regime and I have a question, do you have a couple more shortened sessions to listen to at lunch every time the same thing?

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by к-13 » Tue Dec 24, 2013 16:50

Have (You get them with the second stage), but at the initial stage it is best to limit it to her alone. The use of the same tunes (at the same time in the same place, in the same pose ) throughout the period of adaptation is more efficient than running different. After 10-15 days just taking in this place, at this time this position, You just wont get the same effect (and it will skyrocket when the recollection of the motive or scraps of melody). Why do You need extra difficulties to decide which song to choose this time what You like, remember the past listen, to compare, to analyze (that You will be engaged in the next stages, and at this in the morning and evening, albeit in a slightly reduced volume) in conditions of shortage of time and the presence of external interference is easier and more effective to work on a simple script)))

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by Фан-том » Tue Dec 24, 2013 23:19

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by к-13 » Tue Dec 24, 2013 23:39

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I'm in the first workshop, a similar plaque was offered to fill in, the idea has not caught on...
Once all the white spots visible)))

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by Фан-том » Wed Dec 25, 2013 11:49

Yes, and sessions do not have to be confused that when put! I have some inner thinking of the second round session was placed almost in the same order that the original! It is not a compilation! Apparently either coincided or so worked the brain!
And all clearly! Sometimes interesting to read what was there! Like anything special, and everywhere is the highlight!
How to be the next step? I think to make a break for a week to NY, after a week and start with the new so to speak forces!

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

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Фан-том wrote:with the sessions it is not necessary to be confused that when put! I have some inner thinking of the second round session was placed almost in the same order that the original! It is not a compilation! Apparently either coincided or so worked the brain!
And can sort the files in the player :lol:
Фан-том wrote:How to be the next step? I think to make a break for a week to NY, after a week and start with the new so to speak forces!
First, I did not notice that was a normal results - most of the sessions didn't work even in the last days of practice. :oops:
Second, after two weeks of Christmas break, in any case, you need to start all over again. :?

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by Фан-том » Wed Dec 25, 2013 23:33

All dear Roman K-13!
The result, actually I did not vikladivai, and posted a table of regular classes!
Which, as You say: "to fail is only the result of active and deliberate resistance." In recent days, the practice was a bit of a breakdown, which changed the order of the day etc etc But all were resolved, although not without strong emotions! Which just managed to smooth out! So from the latest, how to describe that time in a busy day sadishsya for 12 min in the car and lovish myself thinking that broke in the chair with a smile! (Passers-by were wondering) Or how to explain that after working half the night on the road, to take and to strengthen the reserve forces, that all was resolved safely! I think it's like what you call "going the thought stream in the positive plane" About hands, feet, back, hands to the shoulders - a peculiar sensation (numbness, throbbing, tingling, lightness, weightlessness, dissolution), about childhood memories will not speak, Apparently consciousness will come out something like that! Accordingly, in consequence of spontaneously coming to this! Work sort of arbitrary anchors! As you say in this stage don't use them! So with the new year I want to work for real results! Like Anna wise calls the "Active intellect" which is: "a combination of all four brain waves". Of course live and learn, but to restart it doesn't work because the body is already set up for certain parties, but to continue with a new enthusiasm the most...
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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by к-13 » Thu Dec 26, 2013 0:44

Фан-том wrote:All dear Roman K-13!
No pathos, just a name or nickname (he, by the way, with a lowercase letter is written in the encoding a different cell).
Фан-том wrote:the Result I actually did not vikladivai, and posted a table of regular classes!
Well, let's say, not very regular - in the table it can be seen perfectly. It is written about the failures in sleep disruption and violent mental activity. All very informative and simple. In my opinion to go to the next stage this is not enough. And this is not my bziki - all in Your interests.
Фан-том wrote:At which, as You say: "to fail is only the result of active and deliberate resistance."
And this is to any work related. In addition, the timing of a positive result is not regulated - 15 days placed no more than 20 per cent of the participating, so the control point is made floating to adapt to each individual.
Фан-том wrote:In the last days of practice there was a small breakdown, which has changed the daily routine, etc, etc. However, all were resolved, although not without strong emotions! Which just managed to smooth out! So from the latest, how to describe that time in a busy day sadishsya for 12 min in the car and lovish myself thinking that broke in the chair with a smile! (Passers-by were wondering) Or how to explain that after working half the night on the road, to take and to strengthen the reserve forces, that all was resolved safely! I think it's like what you call "going the thought stream in the positive plane" About hands, feet, back, hands to the shoulders - a peculiar sensation (numbness, throbbing, tingling, lightness, weightlessness, dissolution), about childhood memories will not speak, Apparently consciousness will come out something like that! Accordingly, in consequence of spontaneously coming to this!
It's all a manifestation of the accumulation of alpha frequency in the picture of the brain - it appears everyone who more or less intensively (and properly) deals with the machine in General and alpha in particular. But the purpose of the adaptation period it is not - we must learn to quickly and easily enter a deep state of relaxation from the session, regardless of your mood at the time of its launch, external stimuli and other delights of modern life. Without it to move to the next stage is not recommended, as the results are far from those that could be with the right approach.
Фан-том wrote:Get a sort of random anchors! As you say in this stage don't use them!
I told you not to put them specifically. Spontaneously they will come - and with this begins the second stage.
Фан-том wrote:So with the new year I want to work for real results! Like Anna wise calls the "Active intellect" which is: "a combination of all four brain waves".
"Active intelligence" is after all 6 stages. And it's a lot more fun than You can imagine, even taking into account the already gained experience...
Фан-том wrote:of Course you live and learn, but to restart it doesn't work because the body is already set up for certain parties, but to continue with a new enthusiasm the most...
I have quite a lot of experience with people, and this workshop I have more than a year lead (not to mention the fact that it is built on a simple workshop three years ago) - believe me, it will not work. Glass of champagne under the chiming clock, coupled with waking up in the morning and bath meal many may be sufficient for the total elimination of all accumulated results from such a training of brain rhythms. And from two weeks trekking friends in copious libations and break the pattern of routine and 40, and 90 days to recover. And I can't expect participants to go against their traditions (as well as the views of relatives, relationships, friends...), even given the fact that he is already more than 5 years do not drink even a parody for alcoholic beverages and see the benefits of this choice. Over a two-week break even spontaneous alpha-anchors will have time to jam, not to mention the accumulated alpha. However, You may be able to see for yourself.

So either my recommendations or your own - I no one is forced to dance to their tune, but the initiative in the framework of my program I don't need (and so I occasionally adjust it based on experience). Indeed, in the case of successful solution of all the achievements of samodeyatel always attributed solely to myself (and I'm stupid, blind, and understand nothing, only now and then for some reason all the success to end and people just go, not reaching to half way) and in case of failure, all the dogs trying to pin on me (they, of course, in no way to blame - this workshop is not correct - or would be if they all it did for me to imagine such horror scary).
I've seen enough of these experiments - we're still not only playing)))

However, I may consider Your suggestions and wishes - it's possible that together we'll come up with more effective training in the period of new year holidays.<

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by Фан-том » Thu Dec 26, 2013 14:00

Teach me, teach... the reaction of hydrogen...
But whether we understand each other? After adaptation it involves the awakening of interest in the process! Search for places, time and desire etc etc. And he is the alpha stage of directly practicing skills!
I'm not arguing! You can work with what we've got, two weeks or even three! But then skorrektirovat!Do you recommend to let it go, to not think, to look inward, etc, etc! But I have 3 scenarios:
- Not to interfere with the brain and just watch everything that happened, as well as the body!
- Limit yourself in unnecessary thoughts (by breathing)
- Aim for something polozhitelnoe (view syabya by the sea or in other pleasant moments)
So about NG! I had planned (for the end of the year a lot of work, and here such method of self-regulation) to complete a week before the NG, to look at ourselves, and enjoy natural body processes! I'm not talking about izlesesen different! And that does not strain the working moments! And for example in your free time to put the task to learn to play keyboards! Accordingly you need to pick the desired state... somewhere on forum I read about learning the guitar... Any comments?
Thank you in advance.

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

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Фан-том wrote:Teach me, teach... the reaction of hydrogen...
:shock: :?
Фан-том wrote:But whether we understand each other? After adaptation it involves the awakening of interest in the process! Search for places, time and desire etc etc. And he is the alpha stage of directly practicing skills!
I'm not arguing! You can work with what we've got, two weeks or even three!
I understand You perfectly, And I don't seem to :) I very clearly outlined the purpose of the adaptation period and the required results for the output control...
Фан-том wrote:But then skorrektirovat!Do you recommend to let it go, to not think, to look inward, etc, etc!
Something I do not recall that I recommended something in this formulation. It applies only to control mikepatton, not the entire practice in General.
Accordingly, these three options are redundant (the third is generally active imaging, it is generally adaptable does not apply).
Фан-том wrote:so about NG! I had planned (for the end of the year a lot of work, and here such method of self-regulation) to complete a week before the NG, to look at ourselves, and enjoy natural body processes! I'm not talking about izlesesen different! And that does not strain the working moments!
You are a sales Manager working, by any chance? Somehow the thoughts in presenting a specific jump (although over-excitement, the rush and speed of writing the post too so appear)... even immediately clear on what to say. Pumping alpha in any case have to help)))
Фан-том wrote:And for example in your free time to put the task to learn to play keyboards! Accordingly you need to pick the desired state... somewhere on forum I read about learning the guitar...
I described an example with a guitar in the subject of the application obtained in the course of workshop skills. I recommend mastering a musical instrument can postpone the end of the fourth stage is to play with two hands without balancing the hemispheres still will not work quickly (and one finger is not a game).
Фан-том wrote:What are the comments?
To begin, I recommend you re-read the instructions.<

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Re: 1. The period of adaptation.

Post by Фан-том » Fri Dec 27, 2013 19:00

As the saying goes: "the First pancake is always lumpy", but nothing will soon learn and bake cakes, and even cakes to cook! It is not that hard...
All right, thinking spring because of the rush, Writing that because of
what you write several times, because at work at this time managers and everyone else need to work especially hard, and someone and for several people at once...
Still, let us move the sights.
Very interested in your opinion about the following:
- do Not disturb brain and just watch everything that happened, as well as the body!
- Limit yourself in unnecessary thoughts (by breathing)
- Aim for something polozhitelnoe (view syabya by the sea or in other pleasant moments)
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Фан-том wrote:And yet let's move the sights.
Very interested in your opinion about the following:
- do Not disturb brain and just watch everything that happened, as well as the body!
- Limit yourself in unnecessary thoughts (by breathing)
- Aim for something polozhitelnoe (view syabya by the sea or in other pleasant moments)
thank you
And what is not satisfied?
к-13 wrote:something I do not recall that I recommended something in this formulation. It applies only to control mikepattonand not the entire practice in General.
Accordingly, these three options, the excess (the third is generally active imaging, it is generally to adapt is not true).
That is, the first two options (the detached observation of misletoe and practice filling it monotonous information) to help deal with the thoughts and they start to get involved only in case if the session is going to be very tight, and the third (switching attention) when adaptation is better not to apply.

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Post by Фан-том » Sat Dec 28, 2013 17:41

Welcome Roman! Could you tell me please where to look or what to read about related relaxation techniques

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Фан-том wrote:Welcome Roman! Could you tell me please where to look or what to read about related relaxation techniques
Welcome, Yuri.
Do You have trouble relaxing? You're just now convinced me otherwise. And then I wrote this:
к-13 wrote:the first two options (the detached observation of misletoe and practice filling it monotonous information) to help deal with the thoughts and they start to get involved only in case if the session is going to be very tight
But the stage is this:
к-13 wrote:don't need no Amateur - some are trying to self-anchoring or use sound files together with some previously undeveloped practices - all this to be done, so you can only break out of the program, to a negative experience or do not receive any results from workshop - the program is based on the experience of conducting several such courses, following which it is expanded, it is fixed in the effectiveness of the things and added things that make classes easier and more effective. The task of this stage - withdrawal resistance of stimulation, only need to convince the brain that it is safe and beneficial to let him get on with it, to move on to more complex techniques.
Nothing exorbitant-complex is not written, right? Do not need extra time to set yourself up that session will only run "with a kick" - it will be much harder. Strengthening session practice is only for those who have differently they do not work only to overcome the resistance barrier of logic.
Just keep listening to it in accordance with the recommendations - You're doing fine, you just need a little patience and perseverance.

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Post by Фан-том » Sun Dec 29, 2013 20:27

So it is all so... Understand You as a person knowledgeable in the subject, which constantly dvoichnyi climb with question marks!
But people tend to move well, or even a little budge! to set goals and objectives! And under the rolling stone gathers no moss, so the logic is outraged - lie down, relax and do nothing is nice (when you know how), but otherwise, there is, well, a lot of questions! I think persistence and patience will not fail, not only me alone... And now work on the bugs: time and place to try to reduce the same right? I have places obtained at least 2 (one morning, evening, etc) with time is even harder! Strenuously, persistently lead to the desired measure, or it is possible to prevent the error in this? Thank you

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Фан-том wrote:So it is all so... Understand You as a person knowledgeable in the subject, which constantly dvoichnyi climb with question marks!
Though it pleases)))
Фан-том wrote:But people tend to move well, or even a little budge! to set goals and objectives! And under the rolling stone gathers no moss, so the logic is outraged - lie down, relax and do nothing is nice (when you know how), but otherwise, there is, well, a lot of questions!
So set a goal to skate normally adapt and move on - there are practices you can apply, and experiment... And now Your experiments will result in the fact that until the second stage You have to get a couple of breaks now and then will not just start from the beginning, but also the consequences to eliminate... It is neither I nor You do not need (although on the second point, I can't be sure).
Фан-том wrote: I Think persistence and patience will not fail, not only me alone...
Me too, but this is not the case...
Фан-том wrote:And now work on the bugs: time and place to try to reduce the same right? I have places obtained at least 2 (one morning, evening, etc) with time is even harder! Strenuously, persistently lead to the desired measure, or it is possible to prevent the error in this? Thank you
Would be much better if the classes are at the same time in the same place (no matter that in the morning one day to the next, the third evening, as long as they have not changed for a certain time of day) - if the habit has formed, it will help in the practice and then it will be a kind of activation key.

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Post by Фан-том » Mon Dec 30, 2013 19:48

OK. Expect a week after NG, charge 21 days ahead! Table as I understand it is not needed! Files Tone Shepard and Issue 21 a Calming breath using? (Here is written about them, as contributing), Or be limited to the original newsletter?

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Фан-том wrote:OK. Expect a week after NG, charge 21 days ahead!
:D
Фан-том wrote: table as I understand it is not needed!
No, but You don't know. Easier.
Фан-том wrote: Files the Shepard Tone and the Release of 21 Calming breath using? (Here is written about them, as contributing), Or be limited to the original newsletter?
Be limited to the initial mailing.

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