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Lucid dreaming can substitute for real training

Post by Александр (разработчик) » Fri Dec 23, 2011 10:37

Scientists believe if you want the dream, you can make a training area for testing physical abilities and skills of decision-making. The key to success is to force ourselves to dream consciously, writes New Scientist http://www.newscientist.com.

The phenomenon of lucid dreaming involves the following: a person sleeps, but is awake. And, most importantly, he can control the dream. According to Ursula Voss, researchers sleep problems from the University of Bonn, are usually people who can control dreams, Wake up in the morning with a sense of euphoria.

But Evelyn Dollars from the Medical University of Vienna, claims that lucid dreaming help a person to maintain mental health. The experiment showed that people, often controlling their dreams, less often complained of mental problems, they had higher self-esteem, they were more energetic and satisfied with life.

As psychologists point out, this kind of dreams allows a person to cope with unpleasant events and memories of them, in particular, avoiding nightmares. By the way, a similar approach can be used against people who suffered a stroke. The fictional exercise can improve actual performance.

In turn, Peter Morgan of Yale University demonstrated how lucid dreaming increase the performance of the volunteers during the test games. It was talking about the good work of the ventromedial prefrontal cortex, involved in emotional decision-making and social interaction skills.

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Re: Lucid dreaming can substitute for real training

Post by Александр (разработчик) » Fri Dec 23, 2011 10:44

Full article from New Scientist:

THE ungovernable world of dreams can be a thrilling or scary place to spend the night. Add an element of control, though, and the dream world turns into something else: an environment so realistic that it can be used as a training ground to hone the cognitive skills we rely on when we wake up.

A slew of recent studies have shown that people can use dreams to improve decision-making and physical skills. They could even help people regain mobility following a stroke.

Lucid dreaming is an unusual phenomenon in which some people are able to "wake up" while still in a dream. Though the dreamer is technically asleep, they are aware of their situation and are able to control the content of their dreams. In this state, people are also able to signal to researchers that they have entered a lucid dream through a series of prearranged eye movements; no other movement is possible during REM sleep.

Many people learn to lucid dream for pure entertainment - imagine being able to enact a fantasy in a vividly realistic setting (see "How to get lucid"). These individuals tend to wake up with a feeling of euphoria, says Ursula Voss, a dream researcher at the University of Bonn in Germany. "They really feel better with the sense of having accomplished something in their dreams."

Other potential benefits of lucid dreaming are beginning to become apparent. Achieving this twilight state of consciousness may have benefits for mental health more generally.

A couple of years ago, Evelyn Doll at the Medical University of Vienna in Austria and her colleagues used a questionnaire-based approach to compare the mental health of 27 frequent lucid dreamers with that of 33 people who said they rarely experienced the phenomenon. The lucid dreamers were more likely to report that they were free from mental health problems. They also scored more highly on questions relating to self-confidence, tended to be more assertive, and showed a greater satisfaction with life (International Journal of Dream Research, vol 2, p 52).

Lucid dreaming also appears to be linked with a greater ability to cope with traumatic events. A week after the 2008 Gaza war between Israeli and Palestinian forces, Nirit Soffer-Dudek and colleagues at Ben-Gurion University of the Negev in Israel tried to track down 223 women living in the area who had previously taken part in their lucid dreaming research. They managed to recall 79 participants and asked them to complete a questionnaire to judge how the conflict had altered their psychological state.

Soffer-Dudek''s team found that while individuals who had been exposed to the greatest levels of violence displayed the highest levels of distress, it was less severe in those who claimed to be able to lucid dream (Journal of Traumatic Stress, DOI: 10.1002/jts.20601).

Voss thinks that the lucid dreamers are able to avoid nightmares, or wake themselves up if they begin one, which might help to explain the result. "They're not less sensitive, they're just more in command - they don't let things get to them as much," she says.

Being in command of dreams opens up opportunities to manipulate them for learning and training that have an impact once the dreamer wakes up. Peter Morgan at Yale University and colleagues have shown that lucid dreamers perform better in a gambling task designed to test the functioning of the brain's ventromedial prefrontal cortex, which is thought to be involved in emotional decision-making and social interactions (Consciousness and Cognition, DOI: 10.1016/j.concog.2010.08.001). By training this region through lucid dreams, Morgan hopes to be able to improve a person's social control and decision-making abilities. "We know that by engaging circuits in the brain we can change its architecture," he says.

Research has already shown that people who practise tasks in their lucid dreams are better at performing them the following day. In one study, Daniel Erlacher, now at the University of Bern in Switzerland, and his co-workers asked 20 people who can lucid dream to toss a coin into a cup. Erlacher''s team assessed their skill and accuracy before and after a period of sleep in which the volunteers were asked to practise the coin toss in lucid dreams. The seven people who managed to have a lucid dream about this showed a significant improvement in their aim, while the others showed no change in their ability (The Sport Psychologist, vol 24, p 157). The finding fits with many athletes' claims that they are able to hone their skills through dream practice.

This kind of dream practice might also have therapeutic potential. Some people who experience a stroke lose some or all their mobility. Lengthy rehabilitation therapy sometimes includes what is known as mental practice, in which individuals are encouraged to imagine movement they might not physically be able to achieve. Research suggests that the neural networks involved in imagined and real movement are very similar, so training these brain areas through mental practice could make the real movement easier.

The research also indicates that the brain regions active in imagined tasks and in lucid dreams are the same too (New Scientist, 5 November, p 16). So lucid dream practice could prove at least as useful as mental practice.

Erlacher reckons the benefit from lucid dreaming could be even greater. The dreams are much more lifelike than imagination, providing a more realistic environment for practising, he says. Morgan thinks that learning could be boosted by the emotional nature of such dreams. "In lucid dreams, there is more positive reinforcement, which results in a reward signal in the brain and enhances learning," he says.
Dream time Is the same as real time?

Upon waking from a particularly vivid dream, it can feel as though you have been through a lifetime in one night. In the film Inception, characters can achieve an hour's worth of activity in a dream that actually lasts 5 minutes. However, research suggests that the reverse is true when dreaming.

Daniel Erlacher, now at the University of Bern in Switzerland, and his colleagues gave 15 lucid dreamers to perform tasks in their dreams. In separate experiments, each participant counted to 10, 20 or 30 and walked 10, 20 or 30 steps.

The dreamers signalled their progress through eye movements. These were recorded using an electro-oculogram, which monitors changes in electrical activity as the eye moves between two fixed points. Dreamers signalled that they had begun the task by looking in one direction and finished looking in the other. The researchers ensured participants were asleep by recording brain and muscle activity.

Both tasks took longer for the dreamers to perform while asleep. The participants took around 30 per cent longer to count and 50 per cent longer to walk in their dreams than they did while they were awake. The findings were presented at the 2010 annual conference of the North American Society for the Psychology of Sport and Physical Activity in Tuscon, Arizona.

"There may be a cognitive slowing in the simulated dream world," says Erlacher. "It's the opposite of what happens in Inception."

How to get lucid

1 Get into the habit of questioning reality. While it might seem odd to do this during the day, it is exactly what you need to be doing in your sleep to realise you are in a dream.

2 Plan how you want your dream to pan out before you go to sleep.

3 Jot down your dreams as soon as you wake up...

4 ... and focus on a high-concentration task during the day, such as playing a musical instrument. Research suggests both this and writing down your dreams to make lucid dreaming more likely.

5 Wake yourself up early, and get out of bed, then get back under the covers. You may be able to slip straight into REM sleep - the period in which most dreaming takes place - and are then more likely to lucid dream.<

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Re: Lucid dreaming can substitute for real training

Post by Воффка » Fri Dec 23, 2011 13:22

It remains only to learn how to control the appearance of lucid dreams :) I in English is not strong, he there shared the methods this can be achieved?

PS the Option of grimstalker not interesting.

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Re: Lucid dreaming can substitute for real training

Post by Хаст » Fri Dec 23, 2011 13:48

you only have to learn to control the appearance of lucid dreams
Yes, that's half the battle, here to stay in OS for a long time - difficult. What kind of normal training, anything can be discussed for 5-10 minutes OS?!

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Re: Lucid dreaming can substitute for real training

Post by Александр (разработчик) » Fri Dec 23, 2011 14:09

Хаст wrote:what kind Of normal training, anything can be discussed for 5-10 minutes OS?!
The article just says that in 5 minutes of the lucid dream, you can achieve high-quality results to which in ordinary life would leave much more time.

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Re: Lucid dreaming can substitute for real training

Post by Александр (разработчик) » Fri Dec 23, 2011 14:18

Воффка wrote:just have to learn to control the appearance of lucid dreams :) I in English is not strong, he there shared the methods this can be achieved?

PS the Option of grimstalker not interesting.
Yes, here you are interested in the text (you can translate translator from Google, for example):

How to get lucid

1 Get into the habit of questioning reality. While it might seem odd to do this during the day, it is exactly what you need to be doing in your sleep to realise you are in a dream.

2 Plan how you want your dream to pan out before you go to sleep.

3 Jot down your dreams as soon as you wake up...

4 ... and focus on a high-concentration task during the day, such as playing a musical instrument. Research suggests both this and writing down your dreams to make lucid dreaming more likely.

5 Wake yourself up early, and get out of bed, then get back under the covers. You may be able to slip straight into REM sleep - the period in which most dreaming takes place - and are then more likely to lucid dream.

But I want to see what's available is also first learn to test the reality of everyday life. This is what to do and when you start working with the device DreamStalker. But the device definitely will give you a hint at the right time, and just like that, without apparatus, in a dream you can't see anything, then you would come to mind to check in the dream reality.

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Re: Lucid dreaming can substitute for real training

Post by ЗОМБИ » Fri Dec 23, 2011 15:27

long ago when I was at the seminar Radugi, he said he learned hrenachit back flip from a standstill in just one week

trained in OS and then in the real world, on the beach on the sand in the water to slice not to break the carcass

I did quit because it was terrible, wasn't ready, now it is necessary again "to purify," do not eat that alpha-theta to swing... not hunting :D but not terrible... ie is ready I think

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Re: Lucid dreaming can substitute for real training

Post by Павел Б » Sun Dec 25, 2011 21:12

I once turned a couple of weeks ago to realize a dream. An incredibly strange feeling.
Nothing wrong there) the consciousness there is in a strange condition, a sort of blunted perception unusual.
Simply speaking incredible things are not surprising and you seriously can't be important incredibly abnormal things.
In particular, I had a dream that my apartment is a huge bear, and in the dream I thought this is a common phenomenon.
However, after a couple of aliens under escort led me through her apartment until I finally realized what kind of nonsense is going on.
And then I came up with the idea to turn around and tell them that they are in my dream. I turned around and they disappeared. It convinced me I was in a dream.
Then I started to roam his apartment, trying to get through the wall, to create items, teleport, but somehow it didn't work.
Objects felt in the hand, but he didn't show. And when I went in her sleep in her room and saw on the clock 6 in the morning, I suddenly thought - what if I don't sleep.
And this despite the fact that the court in winter and the apartment was as bright as summer.
In short, try OS. It's fun.

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Re: Lucid dreaming can substitute for real training

Post by Вольтер » Tue Dec 27, 2011 14:29

Павел Б wrote:I once turned a couple of weeks ago to realize a dream. ... It's fun.
Paul, and this is with the device or without?

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Re: Lucid dreaming can substitute for real training

Post by Павел Б » Tue Dec 27, 2011 15:44

It's just so. Had seen the video of Michael Rainbow about out of body and I had read on one forum a topic about lucid dreams.
And when I went to bed, before you fall asleep 10 minutes created the intention to realize a dream.
The main intention. It's like a clock. Want to get, for example in the morning hours of the day at 10 am. Go to bed with the intention to get up and at the same time put Budilnik.
And in the morning take and Wake up in 9:59 and somewhere 45-50 seconds. Ie for a few seconds before the alarm. Simply put, time does not exist as such.
It is in the minds of people. The subconscious self knows how and what to do. Your task is to put the intention. It's the same with dreams.
Just want all. Not'd latch on to that and just want and calmly go to bed. The more you obsess, the harder it is. Usually spontaneously. When you just want
and went to bed. Again, read the forum about the OS - all said one thing - when something is too much want - it is difficult to achieve. And when firmly set a goal and stop to think about it - it comes. In the case of lucid dreams you are aiming to realize a dream, and then forget due to the fact that just fall asleep. To immediately go to sleep - don't need
to think about anything. You need to stop the internal dialogue. When the mind is quiet and in the middle of the night - you fall asleep easily.
Most importantly never doubt that you will succeed. Well, I think, but going to bed and will check if it will work. And go to bed and know that you are aware of yourself in the dream.
It works without instruments. The main thing to train. Although in the first stage, when a person is difficult to convince himself that he is capable of such devices will be very helpful.
The thing is that while in a lucid dream - you need to be concentrated. Do not let go of the idea that you in the OS.
When you stop and stop in a dream to do something - you lose concentration and Wake up. The device, its action will constantly remind you that you're in a dream.
Because the dream will try every way to bring you back into an uncontrollable state. When you do not understand that everyone around you depends on you. I would even say that the sleep training. You have to train so that nothing could convince you that anything from you does not. Then you will not need any devices.
I'm even inclined to think that the phenomenon of sleep is given to people to ensure that they are trained in sleep to manage the reality understand the fact that real life changes depending on your thoughts. It just is not as fast as in a dream. Trained to manage sleep, people learn to keep the focus on the fact that his life is in his hands. And then all the best will come in his life. And then what comes back to people with devices like BJ, DreamStalker, etc. - will materialize by itself. I believe that the meaning of life is to understand that only we make our own fate. And everything around is tips.
From disease, showing that you are wrong to think and convince yourself that that is not true, blaming others for their problems, tearing at someone's anger, etc..
to dreams that are given to you, to people thinking about why they dream and started to train lucid dreams, and then applied them in real life.
So I totally agree with what lucid dreaming is one of the most effective ways to begin to live in harmony with yourself and enjoy life, get away from it all you want.
So if someone wants to get rid of in life from the fact that he doesn't like lucid dreams is one of the most effective ways.<

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Re: Lucid dreaming can substitute for real training

Post by КАА1970 » Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:49

Question to the users of the system. Do you know the name Solovyov Samir?

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