Water purifier "BSL-MED-1"

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Re: water Purifier "BSL-MED-1"

Post by новый Искатель » Wed Jan 07, 2015 17:00

Analyses done.

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http://iskateli.info/showthread.php?t=3 ... #post42930
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serxio:
"We have now in St. Petersburg the case of a girl of 6 years. The family began to drink water from the BSL-Med two years ago. After a year the girl started to fall out hair - first on a small area, and then more and more. They did hair analysis in Israel and found more than 3 times the MPC concentration of aluminium"
"Aluminum: its content increased by 5 times (up to 125 ág/l), but it does not exceed the MPC."
here in this topic you can read
http://vsedermo.ru/articles.php?article_id=19&c_start=0

analysis I did not. and not only did this man, everything is on the Internet, doing different independently of other people. Who needs that googling. Please perceive it as an adequate criticism.

And the conductive snap with the words black PR, the tests are forged, and so on.

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Post by АлександрКов » Wed Jan 14, 2015 19:14

The fact of the matter is that Google-not Google, and no answers...
Before writing the post saw the table on several sites along with a story about a girl. Including on this site and on "the searchers". Had the impression that the opponents of BSL make findings only on a single table and a dubious history. Everything everywhere refer only to them. No more arguments. However, the Internet is a lot of opposite information that the analysis of the concentrations of aluminium in the normal range )
So as far as I know, against BSL have one analysis, a story and a bunch of unsubstantiated comments and conclusions.
When people buy this device, the water we drink and do not feel discomfort (I'm one of them).
But I would like to understand...

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Re: water Purifier "BSL-MED-1"

Post by Расторгуев » Mon Jan 26, 2015 9:36

Guys I have a device with two electrodes distant by a greater distance than BSL, and there are two camera which comes in one to another, +i.e. the output is in one "living" in another "dead" turns.Tell me how Ble the output is "living"water because there is one camera,and some water will work on my device if I remove the separator,water will also be as Bsle with AFP in a cell?

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Mon Jan 26, 2015 12:48

Искатель-2 wrote:ALL of the expensive imported ionizers on platinum electrodes, because platinum is an inert metal and the water does not pass. And aluminum - goes.
In the electrolysis of platinum also goes (anything goes :)). Platinum salts are extremely toxic (unlike aluminum) and platinum, as well as arsenic tends to accumulate in the body... :shock:
By the way, it is possible that due to the aluminum (positive effect on mental abilities) emerged our civilization, the use of utensils made of clay. :wink:

Aluminum hydroxide is actually used in medicine and sold in pharmacies (there are all sorts of "alkaselzer"). But, as the saying goes - "all's well that in moderation," also in an acidic environment(stomach) aluminum really goes into the dissolved state. But in the gut (where there is a "suction") environment is alkaline, so again formed insoluble gidroksil, but probably still sucked... :?
Filter Bsla, indeed, could not provide the normal filtration of aluminium hydroxide, because, at the time of formation, it is in extremely fine form. It helps to simply defend during the day and using the upper layers.

Personally, I 8) it has long been "ignored" for all the corrupt filters and buy drinking water, purified by reverse osmosis (3х19л=450rub - enough for 5 people for a week), and the water from Bsla use as a medical (it is a pity that a negative ORP very long lasting).

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Mon Jan 26, 2015 12:57

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I would, on the contrary, the second electrode will also be placed in a cell, and used for drinking water, which is between the chambers. :wink:
Such an installation for water purification I came up with and used back in the 90s of the last century :lol: (even somewhere on the network my article with drawings still hangs :)). Then I worked in a chemistry lab and had the opportunity to conduct their own analyses. This set-up (done at home on the knee, from fire hoses, diode D-245 and an old pan) purified water is much better than all the filters that are available then the sale...

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Mon Jan 26, 2015 13:35

новый Искатель wrote:"we Have now in St. Petersburg the case of a girl of 6 years. The family began to drink water from the BSL-Med two years ago. After a year the girl started to fall out hair - first on a small area, and then more and more. They did hair analysis in Israel and found more than 3 times the MPC concentration of aluminium"
"After" still doesn't mean "because". Why only girls and not the whole family??? The child's body, usually much more adaptive than the body of an adult...

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Mon Jan 26, 2015 13:53

Aluminium (from different directories)

According to A. Leninger aluminium belongs to the vital elements found in trace amounts.

Aluminium enters into the composition of tissues of animals and plants; in the bodies of mammals discovered from 10-3 to 10-5% of Aluminium (raw material).

The main sources of exposure - food, water, air, medicines, aluminium utensils (after heat treatment in a pot the aluminum content in food doubles), deodorant, etc. Daily requirement in aluminum adult 35-49 mg. Total content of aluminium in the daily mixed diet is about 80 mg.

In plant foods the Aluminum content ranges from 4 mg per 1 kg of dry matter (potatoes) to 46 mg (yellow turnip), in foods of animal origin is from 4 mg (med) to 72 mg per 1 kg of dry matter (beef). In the daily human diet, the content of Aluminum up to 35-40 mg. of Known organisms - hubs Aluminum, for example, moss (Lycopodiaceae), containing ash up to 5.3% of Aluminum, molluscs (Helix and Lithorina), in which the ash of 0.2-0.8% Aluminum. Forming insoluble compounds with phosphates, Aluminum disturbs the nutrition of plants (absorption of phosphate by roots) and animals (absorption of phosphates in the intestine).

Being one of the most abundant elements in the earth's crust contains aluminium in almost any natural water. Aluminium gets into natural water by natural means in case of partial dissolution of clays and aluminosilicates, and also as a result of emissions of individual plants (electrical, aeronautical, chemical and petrochemical industry, mechanical engineering, construction, optics, missile and nuclear engineering) from atmospheric deposition or wastewater. aluminium Salts are also widely used as coagulants in water treatment processes for municipal needs. The content of aluminum in surface waters ranges from a few to hundreds of mg/dm3 and depends heavily on the degree of soil acidification. In some acidic waters its concentration may reach several grams per dm3.

MPC of aluminium is set at 0.5 mg/l, the limiting sign of harmfulness - sanitary-Toxicological, class of danger - 2. Who-recommended concentration of aluminium of 0.2 mg/l provides a compromise between the practical use of aluminium salts in water treatment and discoloration of water in the distribution network.

According to the classification of P. Aggett, aluminum is one of the most important essential elements (the same for all mammals).
For nutrient classification aluminium applies to abiotic elements. Abiogenic elements took their place in the metabolism of animals due to the weak reactivity, despite the prevalence of the lithosphere.

The metabolism of aluminium in humans is unclear, but it is known that inorganic aluminum is poorly absorbed and most of it is excreted in the urine. Aluminium has a low toxicity to laboratory animals. However, some studies show that the toxicity of aluminium is manifested in the influence on metabolism, especially mineral in nervous system function, the ability to act directly on cells, their proliferation and growth. An excess of aluminum salts reduces the delay of calcium in the body, reduces the adsorption of phosphorus at the same time 10-20 times increases the content of aluminum in the bones, liver, testes, brain and parathyroid gland. The most important clinical manifestations of neurotoxic action include violation of motor activity, convulsions, decrease or memory loss, psychotic reactions. Some studies have found aluminium associated with the brain lesions characteristic of Alzheimer's disease (in the hair of patients have elevated levels of aluminum). However, currently available from the world Health Organization epidemiological and physiological data do not support the hypothesis of a causal role of aluminium in development of Alzheimer's disease. So who sets the concentration values of aluminum for medical reasons, but at the same time, the presence in drinking water to 0.2 mg/l aluminum provides a compromise between the practical use of aluminum salts as coagulants and organoleptic characteristics of drinking water.

Environment: Encyclopedic dictionary. M.:Progress, 1993

Vernadsky V. I. the Chemical structure of earth biosphere and its environment. – M.: Nauka, 1987. – 340 p.

Harmful substances in industry. A Handbook for chemists, engineers and doctors. Ed., 7th, TRANS. and EXT. in three volumes. Volume I. Organic matter. - 590 p., II. Organic matter.- 623 S., III. Inorganic and Organoelement compounds, ed. honored. deyat. science prof.In. Lazarev and the doctor. med. Sciences E. N. Levina. - L.: Chemistry, 1976.

Bespamyatnov G. P., Krotov Y. A. Maximum permissible concentrations of chemical substances in the environment. Reference. - L.: Chemistry, 1985. - 528 S.<

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Re: water Purifier "BSL-MED-1"

Post by Артур888 » Mon Jan 26, 2015 14:27

Андрей Патрушев wrote:Personally, I have long spit on all these sales filters and buy drinking water, purified by reverse osmosis (3х19л=450rub - enough for 5 people for a week), and the water from BSLA use as a medical (it is a pity that a negative ORP very long lasting).
What brand of water ?

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Mon Jan 26, 2015 16:47

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Re: water Purifier "BSL-MED-1"

Post by АлександрКов » Sun Feb 08, 2015 14:14

Андрей Патрушев wrote:Артур888
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Andrew, thanks for the info on the aluminum!
I would like to hear your opinion about the sediment in the water after BSL. Seems that it drops more intense in asserting the treated water...And also, not to defend Moscow tap water after the treatment retains unpleasant taste, sensations that chlorine, even after 2 cycles. Although the developers claim that BSL removes chlorine in one of the stages. If the tap water to stand a day, then the treated water has no taste. Here is what may give flavor and why BSL does not eliminate it ?

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Sun Feb 08, 2015 15:11

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Yeah, who knows why. One can only assume... :? About Sverdlovsk water (with the exception of the area "ceramics"), I also same thing can be said. No improvement of taste (if not even Vice versa) does not occur. It is clear that the sediment drops out in the settling, there is a coagulation of the smallest particles of aluminum hydroxide (see above). Chlorine, perhaps, still removed, but the presence in water of organic matter (especially in spring) takes its chlorination*, which gives an unpleasant taste. When advocating, as I wrote, there is coagulation of small particles of aluminium hydroxide. Concurrent sorption of all the impurities on the particles of aluminum hydroxide. Because the molecules chlororganics is of considerable size, and well adsorbed.

*"With much wisdom comes much sorrow" :cry: In the presence of chlororganics, by providing active oxygen at the electrode should be its oxidation with the formation, with high probability, it is extremely dangerous to human health dioxins (remember the crimes of USA in Vietnam). On the other hand, when the allocation of active hydrogen, it should be a restoration, but that will be thus destroyed all the molecules of dioxins - also the process is probabilistic (this is a persistent connection)... sucks that the regular intake of dioxins can accumulate in the liver (argue that they are even in the liver of penguins were found after the Americans jungle oranges processed). The good news is that dioxins are even larger molecules and still have a better absorb on aluminum hydroxide than simple hlororganika (also, incidentally, extremely useful compounds for the body). In the spring, during the breeding seaweed in the water, organic matter may be too much. In addition, these same weed "plumbers" poison hlororganika... So in spring I personally use Blom avoid... 8) This also applies to any other electrostatic precipitators, with all types of electrodes, where, after electrobraid not happens reliable filtration of the reaction products.

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Sun Feb 08, 2015 15:38

By the way, sedimentation of water after Bcla is a very important stage and for other reasons.
Everyone who has normal elektroaktivator, with paper membranes, could already make in which huge amount in tap water contains ferric hydroxide paper becomes almost black. BSL with ferric hydroxide, in fact, almost nothing (except charging of the particles) does not. Ferric hydroxide also removed from the water only when sedimentation and coagulation with aluminum hydroxide.

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Post by Расторгуев » Tue Feb 17, 2015 23:33

For me it water in there to fill the worth from the purchase 19литровой butylene (not 5литровой propylene) bottle.The water is much better,even if it is initially, prior to activation through the filter of miss.

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Post by Ольга К » Tue May 19, 2015 15:11

In Moscow from 2nd to 5th April, 2015 held the main exhibition of the XVIII International salon of inventions and innovation technologies "ARCHIMEDES-2015".
Development, technology and capabilities of the devices drinking water purification "CB "BSL-MED" was recognized as the best by the international jury among a very large number of innovative products exhibition and received a GOLD MEDAL and the main prize "GRAND Prix".

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Post by ринсвуд » Mon Jun 22, 2015 7:35

And someone came up with the idea to take water and carry on the test, the kinesiologist to her waste the organs , meridians, how beneficial-harmful-neutral, etc. well, or at bioresonance. And maybe despite the presence of different precipitation body safely dispose of the slag.
By the way drank with his wife about half a year is not tracked, nor any advantages, was abandoned.Right now remembered again decided to drink, made a hole about a half inch from one bsla,put a tube to drain ready water, foam on top, and the roller for filtering a long time ago threw.

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Post by ринсвуд » Sat Jun 27, 2015 16:03

Was the water after BSE filter in the pitcher to remove the dregs.

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Post by ринсвуд » Sat Jun 27, 2015 21:13

ринсвуд wrote:made a hole about a half inch from one bsla,put a tube to drain ready water, foam on top, and the roller for filtering a long time ago threw.
even stuffed a couple of glass bottles , the volume of water was reduced , pour to the top of the electrode, a small amount of drink obtained quickly

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Post by ринсвуд » Mon Aug 03, 2015 19:39

Periodically visit the medical center on the diagnosis CHRT. Dragged there today BSL to diagnose water for toxic metals in water after treatment. The result showed that everything is normal, the diagnostic complex IMEDIS, first checked me in , and then again after drinking a glass of water . Asked him to print the measurement result, said that the program list does not display on the printer, and only one result, we had to watch on the monitor a list of around 50-70 positions.

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Post by АлександрКов » Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:41

Risbud, tell what the CHRT ? And what is generally said about water ? If it was harmful, CHRT would have shown ?

Remain open 2 questions:
1.The presence of aluminium
2. The precipitate in the treated water

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Post by ринсвуд » Mon Sep 07, 2015 20:06

A positive or negative Resonance of something on the systems and organs of the human determinable.Type in a search engine CHRT, IMEDIS - the sea of information, honestly.
As I understand the comments of a specialist -all in the normal range , the absence of negative impacts, including on aluminium. All very strange why do the manufacturers or the sellers have not made this a cheap diagnosis, about 1-1,5 thousand rubles., and put on YouTube., probably sold so well buckets)
The precipitate after draining is not significant in the form ,,turbidity,,

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Post by Алехан » Tue Nov 17, 2015 15:51

I'm thinking to buy BSL-Med.
And it is unclear what level of ORP water outlet in this BSL-Med? And in General, is it positive or negative? If you still need to wait until the water will settle the precipitate, it turns out the whole effect of a negative ORP will come to naught, because for a while until the water settles and disappears and the chlorine precipitated aluminium ORP will again become positive.

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Post by Андрей Кабанков » Tue Nov 17, 2015 23:11

The negative ORP of -300.
No need to wait, the precipitate floats on the surface and is removed by special collection.

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Post by АлександрКов » Tue May 16, 2017 18:13

Friends!

I came back to inform all users of BSL-MED very good news (for me very happy).
After the sustainable use of the device for three (!) years (1.5-2 liters of water every day), I decided to be tested for the total content of aluminium in your body - the content of aluminum in the hair.
Along the way, will report that gave this water to their wife during the entire cycle of pregnancy, which was uneventful and the baby was born completely healthy.
But still creepy analyses girls, whose hair fell out and other horror stories about Alzheimer's haunted throughout the three years )))
So.
I gave the lab "Hemotest." Under normal value from 5.6 to 50 µg/g, my figure 8 !!!
Ie the bottom border!
I think the question on the table and To be close )))!!!

PS While the question remains on Deposit. I solve this by filtration of the finished water using conventional the cheapest filter pitcher, which retains precipitated calcium (starts to fall after about 8 hours. Prior to that, drinking without a pass through the pitcher).
On account of the odor after filtering all decided the sedimentation of tap water for 12-24 hours before you pour in BSL. And no smell.

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Fri May 19, 2017 17:24

Alexandrov good day

I also have BSL. it really gives a mad -300, -400, and sometimes. I drank the courses, days at 10.
АлександрКов wrote:After a steady use of the device for three (!) years (1.5-2 liters of water each day)
it's very interesting. Do you drank 1.5 liters of water with ORP of -300 every day for three years? without breaks?

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Post by АлександрКов » Sun May 21, 2017 15:16

Шалтай Балтай wrote:Alexandrov
it's very interesting. Do you drank 1.5 liters of water with ORP of -300 every day for three years? without breaks?
Ahoy! Yes, every day you do the water and drink. Wife sing. BSL for this and created :)
Well, in the holiday breaks were, and so for me this is the only drinking water when close to BSL.

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