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Искатель-2 wrote:Michael_
got the results of the analysis for trace elements
5100р 42 trace elements
the PM can throw something interesting.

given that 3 years drinking water with Emerald

Михаил_ wrote:1. I use the St. Petersburg emerald (couple of different models, too lazy to look), specially bought WITHOUT osmosis.
2. A part of my life is associated indirectly with the industry and analytical chemistry. Parents graduated from the Mendeleev and both worked in Sredmash (current Atommash). Mom specifically focused on the methods of analysis of contamination of sewage (in terms of their development and the actual analysis, and not only on objects Sredmash). I in a youth was fond of chemistry, read special literature, occupied a place at the Olympics.... this is a prelude. The point is that I pretty well represent the technical side of many things.
And so - mineralizer. Is that in fact? this thing that spoils that did the cleaning to him. Justify. Mineralizator contains a number of salts. Where they came from is necessary to explain? they poured from the container, where the salt - industrial production. They just more to take from where. The only "natural" way to fill the mineralizer - miss clean water, for example from the well through the evaporation process. But it's too expensive, just beyond all reasonable limits. So the salt in the water passes through a fall of the usual reagents.
There are several funny moments occur. On the one hand, even with modern methods, it is very difficult to make an ACCURATE analysis of natural salts. Why? because there is a chemical and chemical-spectroscopic method. This is when we perform at every joint analysis with the indicator, and the brightness thereof, a spectrograph, a very precisely defined content. But connections so much that the analysis is very accurate - can leave too much time. Therefore, the analysis carried out in groups and exemplary.
The second option, massspectrometry. Upriver water, the resulting residue, in a spectrograph it to burn and the spectral lines obtained contained controls. I.e. "the periodic table", but not the exact chemical. the composition of salts and their relationship. We usnam how many magnesium, sodium, iron, aluminum, carbon, chlorine (in bound form) and so on. But not the exact composition of salts.
Even a combination of methods will not give the full picture of the real content of salts... Only a sketch, roughly corresponding. This "outline" you get what you need to fill the mineralizer.
How does it take? salt? Warehouse chemical. reagents. As the mineralizer contain relatively a lot of salt (they need to be changed rarely), their value speaks for itself. To apply they can (cost-effective) only salt KHCH. I.e., chemically pure. Such salts contain a lot of impurities, except for the connection. In an ordinary natural water of these impurities can never be! The following degree of purity of analytical grade or CDSA (apply domestic labelling, but not the essence), i.e., "pure for analysis" and "pure for spectral analysis" - very expensive, since their production involves a lot of complicated cleaning processes. To apply them in the mineralizer is too expensive. When the mineralizer was very expensive.
Thus, reverse osmosis removes all salts are natural, then puts them there seems to be-analogue containing impurities introduced in the chemical industry. Take any bottle of chemical.reagents GRADE and there on the label will be a list of potential impurities (so-and-so not more than a certain fraction of a percent and so the list goes on).
At the same time, a PULSE treatment of water itself may CHANGE the mineral composition thereof. Ie is cold fusion.
An example of this is, for example, published information on installing "Energeia-2" and lots of other information.
An example is the processing of high-voltage pulses of distilled water made me - as a result water fell on a large amount of precipitate compounds of IRON (judging by the color and other information known to me, the analysis did not yet, although the water kept in a closed bottle, in fact the same, which was taking the distillate). The process was something similar to "Energonika", the electrodes are not dissolved and were platinized.

Михаил_ wrote:And to expose the water to the osmosis, I'll be only in case of heavy dirt and real threat of life from them (i.e. not long-term, and specific now). In this case I have bought and installed a couple osmosis systems are the simplest, in case of emergency.
Yes. If the emerald may also (due to the pulsed nature of the reactor feed) min. to change the composition of the water, some things like cunning of organic matter, it may not win - just do not enter into the process, the molecules are too big are not affected by electrolysis.

Moon wrote:Michael_ wrote(a):
And to expose the water to the osmosis, I'll be only in case of heavy dirt and real threat of life from them (i.e. not long-term, and specific now). In this case I have bought and installed a couple osmosis systems are the simplest, in case of emergency.
Yes. If the emerald may also (due to the pulsed nature of the reactor feed) min. to change the composition of water, some things, like the cunning of organic matter, it may not win - just do not enter into the process, the molecules are too big are not affected by electrolysis.

Андрей Кабанков wrote:

Искатель-2 wrote:I'd rather put izumrudik

Искатель-2 wrote:Google pore size of the osmotic membrane and the size of viruses

Михаил_ wrote:the Seeker-2 supporter one-sided presentation of information

Андрей Кабанков wrote:

Искатель-2 wrote:I'd rather put izumrudik

I understand that you are very puzzled by the promotion of Emeralds on the forum,but it becomes too Intrusive. Is curb your enthusiasm or I'll have to limit your presence on the forum. The forum is not an advertising platform,and the dissemination of false information about the products of other manufacturers is not the best way to promote your.

Михаил_ wrote:Just have long time to understand that the Seeker-2 supporter one-sided presentation of information so I was in complete ignore. In turn the patience of Andrew, which is also on the wane.

Михаил_ wrote:Just have long time to understand that the Seeker-2 supporter one-sided presentation of information so I was in complete ignore. In turn the patience of Andrew, which is also on the wane.

Analyses showing excess aluminum until now no one has seen,I can assume that they simply do not exist,as the person who did them. The link to the nondisclosure of the results of the analysis for which it cannot be shown to anybody,personally I have brings a smile.