Structured water

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Myrtle I have seen it all, I wanted to buy a KYK, but where you burzhuinov found reverse osmosis + electroactivity ??

Please Zombies, especially for You:

http://sample.purepro.net/acatalog/Perf ... J-503.html

Mirta
...the main problem is that the bourgeoisie, the water inlet may not be bussoleno... they are especially calcium and fluorine (in my opinion) is saturated, and then elatrolet do... this we must understand that their machines produce pleasure acidic or alkaline the water... neutral is not present (and if there is, ORP is not known what there is... all video reviews alkaline water)...

Saturate at the input to raise the pH, as I believe in the usefulness of such water. This is not required if you do not use the osmosis ( the same Panasonic for example. )
...ORP is not known what there is... in all the video reviews of alkaline water is as unknown? In my references to the video, people in addition to the pH measuring ORP. Inlet pH 8 (i.e. it was originally alkaline ) and ORP +300, after processing at first stage is pH of 9.9 ORP -150, on the second or pH of 10.2 ORP -300, the third pH to 10.5 ORP is -370. However the ORP begins to fall from the first seconds and significantly reduced pH does not change.

http://alkalinewaterplus.info/blog/?s=t ... r+ionizers - You just read? There goes up to -700 ORP at pH 9.

I have to You as a user of Emerald osmosis with two questions: the mineralization is before or after ionization? So how effective electrolysis of deionized water, the bourgeoisie find it impossible http://www.ionizeroasis.com/pages/rever ... -this.html And what are the levels of pH and ORP achieved on the camera? ( if not hard of course, I understand that somewhere You have ) Because it seems to me that if the bourgeoisie is right, then You are unlikely to get ORP values less than -100 with a neutral pH of 7.<

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Myrtle
generally the pH should be 7... IMHO, the bourgeois simply do not know how to do a neutral water with a low ORP so vparivayut about the usefulness of alkaline water... alkaline water may not be drinkable, alkaline water is a medication

on the emerald with osmosis water output floats near neutral pH values, the very large ORP which was in use all the time (time setup about 600 liters) is something around -100~-120, usually about -200, there was a time when it was alkaline water with ORP -440, when it is in the tank, these properties are kept for several days

your links jump around -- the same thing -- offer to drink lye

balanced pH value of 9.5 ~10.5

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generally the pH should be 7... IMHO, the bourgeois simply do not know how to do a neutral water with a low ORP so vparivayut about the usefulness of alkaline water... alkaline water may not be drinkable, alkaline water is a medication

They sell it for quite some time and even received confirmation of the usefulness in clinical trials. For myself, I decided that it is possible to agree with the opinion that the optimum pH level of the water will depend on the diet: for meat-eaters above 9 (10), for people on a mixed diet from 8 to 9, for vegetarians: 7 to 8, for vegans just below 7. This is the right thing IMHO and without diarrhea with constipation avoid. But we now not about it.

for the emerald with osmosis water output floats near neutral pH values

This is what? About 7? And at the entrance how many? Does the mineralizer ( about which You never said before or after ionization it works ). Really, a miracle! not shifting pH ORP growing? If pH were shifted by 1-2 units such miracles and are able to do abroad - ORP from -100 to -200 i.e., +300 to -150 makes even budget the Panasonic, and without any of mineralization, not to mention other, swaying to -800 ORP, however at very high pH. What about the fact that foreigners are not able to make neutral water with a low ORP: such as Emerald, in the light - taking unit with ORP output -500-700 at a pH of 9-10, increase the water flow or put a more powerful filter to the ionizer ( then the ability to increase the pH naturally falls ), and voila - pH = 7, AFP -100-200. Remember the speed of the water flow we had these values - and here You have a unique know-how, but with artificially degraded ( because they believe high pH is good ) characteristics. And easier: here is the camera ready with the settings on different 76 levels of pH and ORP: http://waterforlifeusa.com/resources/pr ... he-genesis In the clip, the person adjusts the unit with a pH of 7 to 11 and ORP, respectively, from -180 to -450.

If anyone has Izumrud-si no osmosis, to test my hypothesis easily. Enough to figure out the pH is increased output with a reduction in water consumption or not. If Yes, then I am right and the Emerald, with its unique no more than a fake.<

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first: all the answers are in this thread, we need statistics in my Izumrud-si -- re-read the thread and make a sign

second: immediately after the installation of a new emerald-si I chased through the water with a disabled mineralizer (which is after the activation by the way, 1.RTFM on the emerald-si 2.re-read the thread), going on about -250 ORP pH about 7

now I have input about ORP +150~+250 pH about 7
leaving water ORP of -130~-250 pH of about 7

was strange anomalies in get and source the water associated with the spring additives in the water, and tems that my multimeter started to fail

drinking water should be neutral, acidic and alkaline water is medication

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your links jump around -- the same thing -- offer to drink alkali Quote: balanced pH value of 9.5 ~10.5

This is a publicity stunt to attract attention bourgeois - specified maximum numbers. The Emerald IMHO at this pH ( And he probably will - You reduce the flow rate and/or Sapunov at the entrance Ca ) also will rise significantly ORP, quite possibly reaching the parameters of the best representatives of this technique that I showed as he can put a neutral pH with a negative ORP -150 to - 200.

first: all of the answers in this thread, we need statistics in my Izumrud-si -- re-read the thread and make a sign
second: immediately after the installation of a new emerald-si I chased through the water with a disabled mineralizer (which is after the activation by the way, 1.RTFM on the emerald-si 2.re-read the thread), going on about -250 ORP pH about 7
now I have input about ORP +150~+250 pH about 7
leaving water ORP of -130~-250 pH of about 7

Thanks for the reply, Zombie

drinking water should be neutral, acidic and alkaline water is medication

Will respond with a statement that impressed:

"nutrimentum Nostri esse remedium, et esse remedia nutrimentum" - Hippocrates.

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Myrtle

the Emerald IMHO at this pH ( And he probably will - You reduce the flow rate and/or Sapunov at the entrance Ca ) also will rise significantly ORP, quite possibly reaching the parameters of the best representatives of this technique that I showed as he can put a neutral pH with a negative ORP -150 to - 200.

only You, perhaps with some catch up-in Izumrud-si this is all done on the water in which impurity maximums of 10-20ppm, which is really there calcium, almost distilled.... because bourgeois approach and there are filters that do not remove almost all impurities and mineralization goes to activate...

I once also stuff salt in a jar Vitalonga all -- nothing but water boiled quickly

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"nutrimentum Nostri esse remedium, et esse remedia nutrimentum" - Hippocrates.

something not Google Your curse though ponashenski Rognes that, if

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Myrtle
IMHO, it would be easier to build a system from the bourgeois apparatus (because there you can turn the settings), reverse osmosis and... water passes through a reverse osmosis in my opinion is with a mineralizer... buy your Panasonic and this osmosis in the bargain -- not forget about results to unsubscribe
(it would be good the post filter to attach to the bourgeois apparatus -- "himonya taste" the water to remove, in some settings it appears)

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by the way, I don't remember where I read that it is impossible to boil the silicon pebbles to throw in water to dissolved silicon (haha, naive)... can anyone say why they can not be boiled, they write, that water supposedly becomes very active what that means

but take pocitacu and trying on TDS... I will unsubscribe sometime about the results

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only You, perhaps with some catch up-in Izumrud-si this is all done on the water in which impurity maximums of 10-20ppm, which is really there calcium, almost distilled....

I would as You put it "was doganale" if You had answered my questions. For example, the one where I asked You about which stage is mineralization of the Emerald sea.

because in the bourgeois approach and there are filters that do not remove almost all impurities and mineralization goes to activate..."

Properly, precisely because of this, they can take up to ORP - 800, not pathetic -100-200. They activate the same water input as Emerald, IMHO to have sunk to the same level with precious pH 7.0

"nutrimentum Nostri esse remedium, et esse remedia nutrimentum" - Hippocrates.

something not Google Your curse though ponashenski Rognes that, if

"Our food substances should be a remedy, and our remedies must be nutrients" - Hippocrates.

Myrtle, IMHO, would be more convenient to assemble a system of bourgeois apparatus (because there you can turn the settings), reverse osmosis and mineralizer

True, the right thing is always difficult to do.

... reverse osmosis in my opinion is with a mineralizer...

Of course there is a mineralizer – the link I gave You. Be out cheaper Emerald on 5000 RUB. In larger, as You noted, the functionality and more predictable IMHO quality.

buy your Panasonic and this osmosis in the bargain -- not forget about results to unsubscribe

To start, I'll try to check some points of his hypothesis:

1. the Failure of Emeralds-let ( the Basis for Izumrud-SI, without any admixture of osmosis with a mineralizer ) as a unique product, capable of unlike import analogues to keep a neutral pH regardless of the magnitude of water flow i.e. not to zaslujivaet it by reducing the rate of passage of water through the reactor apparatus. However, it may not be able to do because there is an automatic low-flow cut-off the power.

2. to Obtain a documented confirmation of resistance to corrosion of the electrodes and security brands used materials in the manufacture of reactors used in the Emerald-let.

When you receive a positive response on both counts, I might go for operation of the Emerald-K, doukomplektovat his mineralizer and osmosis. Otherwise I will be forced to resort to Your advice.<

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Emerald-let & Emerald-K as I understand it does not Screen NGOs and some other... our manufacturers usually use the same popular name, got

where did you get that Emerald-let is the basis for Izumrud-SI? the manufacturer is debited and the Duma have in mind? I understand all of the emeralds present electrode bahira, and the rest in his own way... in Izumrud-si some kind of Faraday cage, hell knows what it is

1. The failure of Emeralds-let ( the Basis for Izumrud-SI, without any admixture of osmosis with a mineralizer ) as a unique product, capable of unlike import analogues to keep a neutral pH regardless of the magnitude of water flow i.e. not to zaslujivaet it by reducing the rate of passage of water through the reactor apparatus. However, it may not be able to do because there is an automatic low-flow cut-off the power.

I do not know what is there in let and To and Emerald-si by osmosis the flow of water is constant, it cannot be more/less -- with osmosis always under the same pressure the water goes, there are relay and the pump... pump pressure makes the inlet of the osmosis, and there it is already almost constant... I think so... so if the source water is not much jumps in the parameters, the output will be the average of the water with the same parameters
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I forgot to thank you for the links
thanks, I think will be useful to the fruits of your gugleniya!

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Emeralds-let & Emerald-K as I understand it does not Screen NGOs and some other... our manufacturers usually use the same popular name, got

The family history of the emeralds is inextricably linked with the name of bahira, who worked in VNIIIMT MOH. In 1988, On the basis of an experimental plant at VNIIIMT in 1988 was created the JSC "NPO "the Screen" http://www.amtnekran.ru/index.pl?x=pages&id=13 ( address: Moscow, Kasatkin str., 3), ( From him, in turn, broke the St. Petersburg manufacturers of emeralds, which they confirmed: "NPP Izumrud was received from NPO "the Screen" the right to be his representative and to finalize the installation, and also sell them under their name. In 2004, the company acquired a site on the Internet. The resource became available soon in foreign languages, which brought the company to the global market. This situation, combined with the rapid growth of the company, was puzzled by the Moscow manufacturers of the filters. Fearing a new competitor, NPO "the Screen" in the categorical form has demanded for 12 hours to remove the English version of the site. The RPE Emerald has offered to "Screen" all possible options, but was refused. Cooperation of the two companies came to an end." http://izumrud-waters.com/about/49. ) reactors for which made OOO "Laboratory of Electrotechnology" i.e. let (address: Moscow, Kasatkin St., 11, building 1.) http://www.eca.ru/

what makes you think that Emerald-let is the basis for Izumrud-SI? the manufacturer is debited and the Duma have in mind? I understand all of the emeralds present electrode bahira, and the rest who are in that much...

"...Izumrud-SI is a hybrid domestic installation (joint development center "IKAR" and "let"), similarly allows you to change GP. "Izumrud-SI" is developed on the base of PEM - 3 and well-known schemes of machines series "Emerald" and "STEL" to obtain drinking water and activated solutions (detergent, disinfectant and sterilizing). Built-in ejector pump installation allowed unlike previous models "Emerald-M,C,K,..." to obtain drinking water with a given composition, when using cartridges with the artificial composition of mineral salts." http://www.ikar.udm.ru/sb15-13.htm, i.e. it is a cross between Emerald let with a mineralizer. IMHO Q. E. D.

know what's in let and To and Emerald-si by osmosis the flow of water is constant, it cannot be more/less -- with osmosis always under the same pressure the water goes, there are relay and the pump... pump pressure makes the inlet of the osmosis, and there it is already almost constant... I think so... so if the source water is not much jumps in the parameters, the output will be the average of the water with the same parameters

Why I want to try installing Emerald-let, no osmosis as the basis of Izumrud-SI.

Mess manufacturers emeralds, simultaneously accusing each other of something ( in particular Moscow blamed Peter in the production of weak corrosive, poison the end user, the electrodes ) is only part of the trouble. About the fact that from time to time, made critical design changes affecting the security of the consumer's health I wrote. Well, quite by the way: "... In the beginning of 2011 scientists and experts of the Institute of Electrochemical Systems and Technologies Witold bahira was completed research work, which served as the Foundation for the creation of a number of fundamentally new designs of MB elements and new electrochemical systems technical, the right for serial production of which in mid-2011, passed by the patentee company Delfin Aqua. At the same time, the company LLC "let" was deprived of the right to manufacture products according to all mentioned above as well as under any other patent V. M. Bahir and his colleagues. Since July 2011, the only company which is under the supervision and with the participation of authors and patent holders organized serial production of elements MB various models is Delfin Aqua. The design elements MB the new-generation focus all the latest copyright developments, including "know-how". In particular, the performance of the elements of the MB to the latest versions has more than tripled, and the duration of continuous operation – more than 10 times. Electric power consumption of new models of elements MB is in the range from 60 to 2000 watts. They are all electrochemical plants produced by company Delfin Aqua. Electrochemical reactors-MB is manufactured from the latest materials. Each modular electrochemical reactor (cell), manufactured by Delfin Aqua is a seal, inscribed with the emblem of the manufacturer (Delfin Aqua), as well as guarantee the author's participation and control – the emblem of the Institute of Electrochemical Systems and Technologies Witold bahira, the company which is leading in the development of new design and technological solutions in the field of electrochemical activation." http://www.vbinstitute.EN/equipment/elem/

And why I don't want to mess with the Russian manufacturers? I'm surprised at myself.

I forgot to thank you for the links
thanks, I think will be useful to the fruits of your gugleniya!

Not for that! Success! <

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Emeralds in the 90s else did we have in Eburg on one "secret" plant (for conversion), and also claimed that it is their own design...

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Emeralds in the 90s else did we have in Eburg on one "secret" plant (for conversion), and also claimed that it is their own design...

If You agree that at the core of the Emerald is the invention of V. bahira, the course will agree that what You saw - nothing more than counterfeit products. For the history of production I, it seemed to me, traced in a previous post. There is a small possibility of manufacturing under license, of course.

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yeah, with this approach, our manufacturers will probably assemble a second system of bourgeois constituent parts (osmosis can and our to take)... the bourgeoisie as a better copyright and patent rights... and of course, global brands YES

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yeah, with this approach, our manufacturers will probably assemble a second system of bourgeois constituent parts (osmosis can and our to take)... the bourgeoisie somehow better

They approach the normal, in the framework of the mentality. In emerald, diamond was driving me crazy just what I and my household from drinking water in the mouth mucosa was damaged by the type of ulceration. In a strange way this echoes the excerpt from the book "the Water we drink" by M. akhmanova - "... the study, conducted over five months (1998-1999) to the students of Penza school No. 13, under the leadership of candidate of chemical Sciences, it has been shown that ... with the passage of the water through the filter chamber "Emerald" – is electrolysis, and the resulting atomic oxygen and hydrogen... activate the water. Thus formed active particles – free radicals that are extremely reactive. The authors filter "Emerald" I think that the water activity is maintained for several hours, but we observed the degradation of the polymer material used to produce plastic bottles for drinks. This indicates that you need additional study of various indicators of this water, because its chemical activity may contribute to the formation of other toxic compounds". In those days I was younger and more foolish, because I decided that this "baby" of the disease UNIQUE apparatus and acquired emerald to which such problems fortunately was not. But as soon as I realized that the problems of electrochemical activation are involved not only in us and since the 70 years and is quite tightly controlled at the state level (particularly in Japan ), my attitude has changed. Of course we must pay tribute to Bahir with his team, one way or another, and in his installations has its own peculiarity: a reactor in which the activation is on the circle and not on the plates, as in the rest of the world that led to the compact size of the reactors themselves, and a more equitable distribution of electromagnetic fields in them ( behind a cordon are struggling with this, using a specially selected distribution of cracks in plates ), larger activation of micro-volumes of water, which perhaps helps to more deeply due to a process of electrolysis in not comprehend the rest of the world scale ( Hence, the claimed ability to display the final water at neutral pH with some kind of PPR ). However, the absolute lack of information about their safe use for domestic purposes (a single article on clinical efficacy for a limited time), but not for sanitation and for use in veterinary medicine hinder the progress of their units among those who are not willing to experiment with their own health. Its position Bahir Ko. explain the reluctance to reveal competitive advantages of the product in a hostile raiders environment.<

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Mirta
generally the pH should be 7... IMHO, the bourgeois simply do not know how to do a neutral water with a low ORP so vparivayut about the usefulness of alkaline water... alkaline water may not be drinkable, alkaline water is a medication

on the emerald with osmosis water output floats near neutral pH values, the very large ORP which was in use all the time (time setup about 600 liters) is something around -100~-120, usually about -200, there was a time when it was alkaline water with ORP -440, when it is in the tank, these properties are kept for several days

your links jump around -- the same thing -- offer to drink lye

balanced pH value of 9.5 ~10.5

I have consistently kept -330

you seem to have borehole water ? + you didn't put a pre filter as we have previously discussed
the purer the water inlet, the lower the ORP output

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the Seeker-2
I have river water, pre-filter I put

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Recently received a response from the Institute of bahira, to provide additional information regarding the safe use of the plants "Emerald". Here is an excerpt from it: "...data of any research, including scientific reports are closed
information and not disclosed to third parties.
Report data individually can be introduced
only registered at the Institute of companies whose activities
aimed at the promotion of ECHO-technology.
In other cases, the Institute is interested in providing
closed scientific information to any third party independent
conclusions."
Given who had a negative personal experience, described in a previous post, which correlates with the findings of the Penza citizens about the high reactogenicity treated with emerald water, coupled with the reluctance of the manufacturer to provide information on the results of safety studies is to recognize the inappropriate continued use of this product.

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WARNING! DANGER!
I was concerned about the reluctance to publish in open access the results of the studies on which the manufacturer of emeralds insisted. And as the saying goes: "if the mountain will not come to Mohammed, then Mohammed goes to the mountain." That's the first thing I came across after a search on the theme the influence of water held electrochemical activation:

excerpt from the author's abstract PhD Borowski Alexei L. (2011).: http://www.dissercat.com/content/klinik ... tivnye-for

Theme: Clinical, laboratory, and experimental studies of solutions containing active oxygen species (in combination with nanoparticles – this part of us is of little interest, being a Supplement to the main study ).
Materials and methods:
Setting the STEL for receiving anolyte ANK in Leigh W. (For reference - installation STEL produce separate anolyte and catholyte, in emeralds the same due to the greater duration of stay of water at the cathode, the water is proportionately more properties of the catholyte.)
Methods of study of biochemical parameters of blood serum.
Statistical processing of the results.
The study of biochemical parameters in mice when taken per os solution of anolyte.
The study of biochemical parameters in mice when taken per os solution of the catholyte.
the Result:
Detected increase in the concentration of malondialdehyde and diene conjugates in the tissues of mice and blood serum during their processing by solutions of anolyte and catholyte while the anolyte has a more pronounced Pro-oxidant effect on the tissue of albino mice.

With the full version of the abstract can be found here: http://www.sgmu.ru/sci/dissov/notice/ar ... 000435.pdf

Malonic dialdehyde is just an indicator of activation of reactions of LPO (lipid peroxidation), it is so to say the product (the increase in its concentration indicates the acceleration of the processes of destruction of cell structures of the body). In several articles, such as this one, from 2000: http://medi.ru/doc/700032.htm the formation of unstable (metastable) superactive compounds (highly oxidized forms of ions and molecules, free radicals) resulting in oxidative stress, is called You won't believe the trainee factor. No doubt the outcome of such training is the depletion of antioxidant protection after it was forced activation.

Conclusion: My empirical conjecture about the possible insecurity of the use of the treated water found its confirmation tool - water after treatment has a pronounced Pro-oxidant properties. Pay tribute to the nameless outbred mice, sacrificed their health for our own benefit. <

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the Seeker-2
I have river water, pre-filter I put

even worse. on the river generally is not necessary to put single prefilter. it is also without any water intake is and so on. from silt to clean....

5 micron pre-filter is set, or what ?

interestno after he changed the OVP

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Emeralds in the 90s else did we have in Eburg on one "secret" plant (for conversion), and also claimed that it is their own design...

If You agree that at the core of the Emerald is the invention of V. bahira, the course will agree that what You saw - nothing more than counterfeit products. For the history of production I, it seemed to me, traced in a previous post. There is a small possibility of manufacturing under license, of course.

what is left for debate - long ago rozyasnennya in Izumrud-SI reactor of their own design - Faraday cage. The mesh of such a thing, the fact that the type of Herzegov in Rivotorto-2 is in the circle. From the Bahir is quite another.

read the questions and answers:

http://ikar.udm.ru/faq.htm

Questions on the device itself:
1. how many reactors inside? here, your competitor (?), indicate the number of the applied reactors and their model http://www.ecawater.ru/plant/emerald/model_e/ ie you can choose ORP.
2. who is the manufacturer of the used reactors? you indicate here http://ikar.udm.ru/faq.htm if your device is "joint development of OOO "let" and ZAO "Ikar LTD "let" is http://www.eca.ru/catalog/pem/ ?
3. what type of reactor you are currently using in their devices? here http://www.ecawater.ru/price/ the mentioned reactors "MB-11 - universal flow-through electrochemical element instead of elements of type PAM-3."
4. please explain in detail what the differences between your instrument from the one described here http://www.ecawater.ru/plant/emerald/principle/ what else are you using in your device? about the regulation of pH and ORP, it is possible the mineralization is clear. interested in what else you are working on the water. if possible, send the scheme of the device, or at least a photo of the innards with the review.
And last, please comment on the situation, why here http://www.ecawater.ru/poddelka/ your company included in the list of companies producing fakes. the situation with the NPP Izumrud clear with you - no. especially if you work with the above-mentioned OOO "let", which is based here http://www.eca.ru/about/ "established in 1991 V. M. Bahir, and J. G. Zadorozhniy".

1 and 4. Regarding the "internal" "Izumrud-SI" (mod. 01os):
1) elektroaktivator of his own design - a "Faraday Cage", patent RU 2299859,
2) resonant power supply - patent RU 0012300,
3) a patent on the technology of production of drinking water of the highest quality - EN 0074909.
4) the picture "vnutrennei" - http://ikar.udm.ru/01os-int.jpg
5) Our approach to obtaining biologically active drinking water and of aqueous solutions of highest quality is radically different from the existing patented in Russia and abroad, together with South Korea, PCT. (see answer see answer and http://ikar.udm.ru/sb28-1-4.htm, http://ikar.udm.ru/sb38-5.htm). In V. M. Bahir earlier attempts to explain the "unusual" properties of activated water based on the theory of Gerlovina, but judging by his website and the name of his Institute, he refused them.
2 and 3. In mod.03 used PAM-3 LLC "let", according to the agreement on the joint development (http://ikar.udm.ru/sb21-1.htm G. I. Shironosova, Y. G. Zadorozhnii. "Izumrud-SI" - universal household installation http://ikar.udm.ru/sb15-13.htm) and licensing agreements that we did not break even once. In mod.01os, 02os, 03os, 04c and 04uni elektroaktivator our own design - a "Faraday Cage", patent RU 2299859.<

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WARNING! DANGER!
Conclusion: My empirical conjecture about the possible insecurity of the use of the treated water found its confirmation tool - water after treatment has a pronounced Pro-oxidant properties. Pay tribute to the nameless outbred mice, sacrificed their health for our own benefit.

bukof much - the conclusion is unclear.
the essence of what - not to buy the Emerald SEA ? Do not use Emeralds in General ? Do not use activated water ?

would the electrodes are INERT, the rest is not so bad, or rather not at all harmful, if not to split hairs with very low ORP.

But harm of the discharge of inert electrodes (cathode-anode) there is nowhere obvious harm no more. Well, unless you drink -1000 ORP on a regular basis

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even worse. on the river generally is not necessary to put single prefilter. it is also without any water intake is and so on. from silt to clean....

the river water after intake of course, I live in the city... now it turns out before the membrane is two polypropylene 0.5 microns and two carbonblock of 0.6 µm,

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the Seeker-2. I'm not exactly a quote your questions and respond to the points because the answers are already in my previous message. But You too do not bother, I will answer briefly:
1. Izumrud-SI based, as it is written on the website of Icarus - PAM 3 reactors let. The link I already gave. About Emerald without those components, can not say anything. But if at the output they do about the same, then actually what is the difference - my conclusion touches on the idea of electrochemical activation, where the release into water of a large number of different oxidizing agents, killing in their path of not only pathogenic microflora but harming the highly organized organisms - mice buyers and emeralds. I'm not talking about the damage to property of the Penza gymnasium.
2. I had to use agranovski Emerald -Diamond is their Emerald - K. here And there as far as I understand you used two electrochemical reactors PAM 3 and possibly earlier versions.
3. Emerald history I traced in detail IMHO. Who's who and what stole, borrowed - you decide for yourself.
4. I don't work for bahira, let, Screen, Icarus, Dolphin Aqua and his ilk. My opinion is my opinion.
5. After I found the missing me the data on the capabilities of the electrochemically activated water affect the living body ( namely, the ability to accelerate the flow of HALF-reactions in living cells, which by the way is indirectly confirmed by the activation contraregulatory antioxidant enzyme systems, according to data provided to me laudatory article ), the essence of which I gave, the conclusion is clear: you need to stay away from this technology, which I see only in the application for purposes of disinfection. (As described in summary of the abstract - microorganisms fortunately, there are no opportunities antioxidant protection from activated water, as macro-organisms). ORP and pH, as it turned out, it's not all that it was worth paying attention to.<

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you need to stay away from this technology

Cactaceae, you have Panasonic to take you or refused to electric activation ??