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Post by ЗОМБИ » Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:25

Михаил_ wrote:well, though not quite just, but you can paramagnetici :) -solvable in a reasonable time and with almost zero costs.
technology in the Studio!
(really expensive for magnets Ecomag ask)

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:35

Искатель-2 wrote:tds if he will increase it is easy to prove the dissolution of nuts
by the way, the tds meter is buggy just for the separated water, i.e. the catholyte and the anolyte, not separated by water, for example from Giftwares, Vlad, Emerald-si, BSL should not fail... at least on my Izumrud-si is not buggy

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Re: Structured water

Post by Искатель-2 » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:45

ЗОМБИ wrote:letter to Icarus wrote
ЗОМБИ wrote:10.03.2012
emerald AFP-400 ph8.2 mg/l 60

11.03.2012
emerald tank GP-375 ph7.5->7.0 mg/l 60
emerald duct AFP-345 ph7.5->7.0 mg/l 60
only osmosis ORP-320 ph7.5->7.0 mg/l 20
the initial ORP of+250 ph7.5->7.0 mg/l 180

it is seen that in flowing systems does not make sense to do discrete measurements because in order to make the next measurement, you must drain all water from the system... it seems to do not realistic – I have only worked with disabled osmosis tank and activator for about 5-10 minutes, as can be seen from the table AFP has not changed much.
i.e. the system is highly inertial.

measurements in any case I will continue to do

letter to Icarus wrote
1. and what of the letter ?
2. thank you very much for test measurements. While what is the result ? The special effects of storms are seen. Perhaps Herzigova such anomalies were due to the stronger electrodes.
ORP of the shower, and not Meryl.

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Re: Structured water

Post by ЗОМБИ » Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:54

Искатель-2 wrote:Yet what is the result ?
in the end, it is clear that the measurements need to be repeated each time all the conditions of the experiments... with running system is not possible.

13.03.2012
emerald from the tank ORP-350 ph7.5->7.0
the initial ORP of+200

letter about the partner discount, if you're interested, write to Icarus
Искатель-2 wrote:ORP of the shower, and not Meryl
Giftwares-3 did You?

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I think it is necessary to develop a plan for distribution the activation of Shironosov said they have training for partners, if that-write in lichku. I'm a little busy, but the idea puzzled.

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Re: Structured water

Post by Искатель-2 » Tue Mar 13, 2012 21:57

ZOMBIE
a purely trade I'm not interested. For 1 thousand rubles to tear the ass....
I have yet to receive for free the very subject to advertising purely on entusiasme.
Out you bought emerald, another friend. In the end, I 3-4 emerald sold. Even though nothing is received.

From Icarus with PR tight. I find it easier to promote their website - I know seo. And the people will come to them.
Than to tear the ass convincing someone not clear - what are good filters.

So the level of the program is not on my flight.

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Re: Structured water

Post by Искатель-2 » Tue Mar 13, 2012 22:00

in General, I guess you just have to think about what I can and what I can.

Icarousel person seo literate is not enough. They do not think about it.

Here you have the Emerald, order number, what was ? 200y ? there is not difficult to calculate how much they sold for just 4-5 years. They excuse the poor..... Well Shironosov and he recognizes it.

Although it seems to be in not the lowest price for the filters.

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Re: Structured water

Post by ЗОМБИ » Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:48

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I have a date of release of machine 2009. i.e. in the warehouse lay for 2-3 years. the order number can't remember.

it would be necessary to spin the flywheel for trade az

I generally affiliate also do not need much because not much to gain, and as an additional lesson can be for free

IMHO, Karovska devices need to load in a ready-made trading network ie to look for a partner Icarus.
for example here http://www.ecoteka.ru/shops/

the any suggestions?

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Re: Structured water

Post by ЗОМБИ » Wed Mar 14, 2012 22:13

the anolyte and catholyte produced at Vitalonga, drinking water on the Emerald-si (or somewhere else :) )

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Re: Structured water

Post by Искатель-2 » Sat Mar 17, 2012 15:43

generally received prototype of a new rivotorto, the current do not call M. M. asked to make a batch of 100 pieces
I'm just thinking how to help him. Inappropriately get the man who idut ispytaniya

in General, the shift gives honest 500 Delta (C ~ +240 to -250) in flow-through mode and with good pressure
but the battery is dying after 5 min. the Last version ate 3 ampere 10 ampere (last gave a shift of ~370 somewhere under low pressure)

generally gentlemen geeks is sought

good switching-mode power supply 12 volt DC 15-20 amp
recommend for something. And then the batteries are dead not strategically exit

until I found this, but maybe there are people here in the topic

http://www.chipdip.ru/product/dr-120-12.aspx
http://www.mascot.no/admin/common/getim ... ileID=1076
http://www.mascot.no/admin/common/getim ... ileID=1067

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Re: Structured water

Post by Рав » Sat Mar 17, 2012 18:32

Искатель-2 wrote:good switching-mode power supply 12 volt DC 15-20 amp
I'm not really a techie, but a power supply from the laptop? For example http://www.ebay.com/itm/AC-DC-12V-192W- ... 27c471a820

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Sat Mar 17, 2012 19:40

Искатель-2 wrote:good switching-mode power supply 12 volt DC 15-20 amp
recommend for something. And then the batteries are dead not strategically exit
I Herzegov even without the battery makes the order, agreed with him. I premaster to W-3 car battery... should be long enough, at least for a couple of baths in a row.
I don't really know the impulse or not

here I come W-3, will make bath adding ASD-2... maybe Hulk will :)

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Re: Structured water

Post by Белый Камень » Sat Mar 17, 2012 20:58

For a normal link.
In the extreme case, it is possible the power supply from the computer, no, there's nuances really are.
Just in case the ground be sure to :oops: and not the battery :)

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Sat Mar 17, 2012 21:28

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as I understand it, the idea of battery failure from using the 220V input to the power supply and any wiring in the bathroom. Damp, but if a small flood... Akkum as I understand it once bahnet and will not kill anyone.

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Re: Structured water

Post by Искатель-2 » Sat Mar 17, 2012 21:43

ЗОМБИ wrote:
Искатель-2 wrote:good switching-mode power supply 12 volt DC 15-20 amp
recommend for something. And then the batteries are dead not strategically exit
I Herzegov even without the battery makes the order, agreed with him. I premaster to W-3 car battery... should be long enough, at least for a couple of baths in a row.
I don't really know the impulse or not
here I come W-3, will make bath adding ASD-2... maybe Hulk will :)
the battery is 13 volts at the 2 than the amp dies after 10 minutes, but it is enough for one bath
I Hercegovin in touch - looking for BP

He is afraid to put the PSU because there was a case of burnout, i.e., below 220 in the water did not go roughly speaking. And when on batteries just to be safe.
But I think it's all in the design - how to make security levels.

So far I'm satisfied. Strong duct -250mv is cool. Net Delta 500, no lie like Icarus Emerald 01-300 - 150 on there just moved. Write a 300-400 - say from the source of water depends. Schaz.

By the way. In no case do not put magnets TO the activators. I gave him the old one - it was all overgrown with rust. When in the cleaning mode, cut the activator, after the magnets iron in cereal settles it.

Magnets should be put only AFTER the reactor.

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Sat Mar 17, 2012 21:48

Искатель-2 wrote:by the Way. In no case do not put magnets TO the activators. I gave him the old one - it was all overgrown with rust. When in the cleaning mode, cut the activator, after the magnets iron in cereal settles it.

Magnets should be put only AFTER the reactor.
as I understand it, Emerald-si are not affected-there is in fact a 4 stage purification filters before activator

you have magnets on steel pipes were?
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Re: Structured water

Post by Искатель-2 » Sat Mar 17, 2012 21:49

ЗОМБИ wrote:White Stone
as I understand it, the idea of battery failure from using the 220V input to the power supply and any wiring in the bathroom. Damp, but if a small flood... Akkum as I understand it once bahnet and will not kill anyone.
so. So the way to Emerald 01-300 BP in such a large building, the 1st option was private.

Then you just have to think like the corps to do.
Batteries are of course a pain in the ass.

New giftwares 10 amps of juice. Old 3 ampere. The reactor became more powerful.

Anyways the test. Perhaps there will be two versions. Something like Giftwares 350 and 500 Giftwares
Accommodation - degree shift.

Not sure what all of this strong shift is needed. There is no scientific basis nichrome no. For example, nowhere is it written that the pressure drops for a short period when taking these baths. It is then restored.

The theme of wildly crude and chaotic. All need to learn.

I Think a blood pressure monitor to buy. Measure before the reception, during and after.

And advise you.

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Re: Structured water

Post by Искатель-2 » Sat Mar 17, 2012 21:50

ЗОМБИ wrote:
Искатель-2 wrote:by the Way. In no case do not put magnets TO the activators. I gave him the old one - it was all overgrown with rust. When in the cleaning mode, cut the activator, after the magnets iron in cereal settles it.

Magnets should be put only AFTER the reactor.
as I understand it, Emerald-si are not affected-there is in fact a 4 stage purification filters before activator

you have magnets on steel pipes were?
I'm talking about 01-300
http://shop.ikar.udm.ru/index.php?productID=726

we're talking about baths, not about the drink
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Post by Искатель-2 » Sat Mar 17, 2012 21:52

ЗОМБИ wrote:you have magnets on steel pipes were?
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Yes, one hell than. experience has demonstrated TO activator is better not to put. I'm afraid 01-300 too zasrat caked with rust, although there platinum.

Herzigova have nothing stuck for the year. Without magnets there. I have up TO 4 multiple of Magnitogorsk was ecomag 350p

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Sat Mar 17, 2012 21:54

Искатель-2 wrote:for Example is not written anywhere that the pressure drops for a short period when taking these baths. It is then restored.
you can always have 100g of vodka before taking a bath :wink:
Искатель-2 wrote:I'm talking about 01-300
http://shop.ikar.udm.ru/index.php?productID=726

we're talking about baths, not about the drink
well so I'm going to put in front of the shower filtrec, magnets to him on a PLASTIC frame

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Re: Structured water

Post by Искатель-2 » Sat Mar 17, 2012 21:55

ЗОМБИ wrote:you can always have 100g of vodka before taking a bath
did the vodka raises the pressure ?

better get my tea

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Re: Structured water

Post by Искатель-2 » Sat Mar 17, 2012 21:56

ЗОМБИ wrote:well so I'm going to put in front of the shower filtrec, magnets to him on a PLASTIC frame
so let's get caked rust on the Central cathode in rivotorto
I have it all rusty was

then you will cry - down activation

magnets translate Fe2 to Fe3 and then he flakes on the activator and settles

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Sat Mar 17, 2012 21:57

Искатель-2 wrote:better get my tea
green lowers, in my opinion
in a pinch you can adaptogens to get drunk, they seem to increase the pressure, although I have reduced (been a long time), now normal blood pressure

persuaded, will deliver after activator :wink:

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Re: Structured water

Post by Искатель-2 » Sat Mar 17, 2012 22:01

M. M. still wondered if the Central cathode made of stainless steel, where it came from. That's out of the water and appeared. And there is nothing to rust.
So the magnets are not so simple turned out.

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Re: Structured water

Post by ЗОМБИ » Sat Mar 17, 2012 22:06

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can remove the magnet from the Emerald-Си01оѕ? it is too late... in the beginning it was checked-after osmosis still some impurities through -- TDS meter municipality distillate from auto shows 000ppm; under the municipality of Emerald-Си01оѕ (measured when the mineralizer was not primed, and the activator is disabled) shows 020ppm i.e. 20mg/l

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do not know the case the body what hardware is necessary?

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