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Re: Structured water

Post by Искатель-2 » Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:06

I don't see a reason for throwing tantrums, matyugov with asterisks and other matters.
matuhi my personal, I mean

just still ugly to write a review on the entire Internet, without communicating first with the developer.
You when the defective product was sold you from the cops and tax you to call and write bad reviews ? Or do you first come to where I bought this product ?
So here you have it opinion personally wrote. You decided to write directly to the Internet.
That leads to certain thoughts, and that is why you did it (such as emotional revenge for the fact that you spent a long time preparing device)

I like Icarus (Emerald os) in the beginning is also wrong. Forgot pressure switch, which current is half of the tank was filled.
I immediately decided to put online ? I asked the developers what's wrong. They realized and corrected.
And you're probably immediately going to drain all the bad things in the Internet to know how bad the seller.

p.s. but in General I do not care who buys and who doesn't. This is not a serial product, can be anything. So that at least 10 people I ask the Council *avno or candy.
Test group is already gathered, that at this stage enough. When the device is in the series, then you will write right away how bad it is.
And of all the Russian scientists working on water 3 killed. (activated). Pre-preemptively removed, because the theme of mega-relevant in the future will be.

p.p.so that's all free, I think it is not necessary to interfere with the person

look at Icarus has a shop, everything is tested - buy, and will not have problems in terms http://shop.ikar.udm.ru/
- can subcriticality, there platinum from the electrodes and the approach is not completely artisanal

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Re: Structured water

Post by Андрей Кабанков » Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:33

The forum is an effective feedback tool when designing products with at least we use it as such in their developments.
The decision of the author of the development of phase-out, in my opinion correct, given that the user has been issued the device, making dead water is alive.
In General, I wonder the work of manufacturers of such equipment, it is one thing when a product fails in use, then there is the warranty, but when sold the product to forget to deliver the items, it has rust or is leaking, that too.

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Post by Михаил_ » Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:29

1. the author to me he turned, called to ask me a glass. When I said that ORP is not reduced (I hadn't realized that the increases needed water to survive longer, the fact is that high plus I usually measure the distance (make sense?) ie not waiting until the readings on the tap water plus stop the growth, if the water is of the same emerald - negative, the glass stavish ORP meter, he immediately half a hundred is a testimony down and goes for the zero, minus and changes slowing and "calming down".
So, when I said that ORP does not fall - he said it was geomagnetic conditions. I know that geomagnetic conditions can affect the quality indicators on GP. Although I personally did not see never to the plus (this is a sign of catastrophe, some big). But in this case, another activator was sub-zero water.
2. Several letters to the author remained unanswered. Don't know why. Including the first application(and then agreed by telephone) and questions on terms. This created I have a feeling that email - is not a reliable method of communication with him.
3. This forum is not a tax, and the subject in it - especially the kind of place where people communicate a little fixated on the subject of water treatment, and write here a review I just had, and as mentioned above, it was necessary to warn people, the warning of author for this does not be amiss.
4. corrosion on the nut I was going to show the author in the morning-afternoon of the next day (the time was scheduled cancelled again return the soul I do it for the tongue to say "a day".) But the publication of an opinion that does not change.
5. in the circuit Assembly ZH2 actively working 3 electrode. The one that I maybe mistook for brass, only the average of them.
nut, washer, screw (Central) - location power connection. There will be a dissolution, which can be seen about a chrome nut. Briefly, it is possible schematically to present the scheme x2 - sandwich of the electrodes where connected, and the contact area between them is a variable (which is provided by the insulating washers on the Central pivot).

I'll just be happy if the author will bring your product to mind and mass production. The more similar the market the better. But now it's gone IMHO a little not in that steppe. So I also think that the decision that you need to wait mass production - correct. And it is good that my opinion the fact helped.<

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Re: Structured water

Post by Димас » Sat Feb 25, 2012 13:11

Михаил_ wrote:can stomach twist.
"Nakarkal" I 8)
strange thing with the body is...damn, the horse would not push :lol:

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Re: Structured water

Post by Искатель-2 » Sat Feb 25, 2012 13:42

Андрей Кабанков wrote:the Forum is an effective feedback tool when designing products with at least we use it as such in their developments.
The decision of the author of the development of phase-out, in my opinion correct, given that the user has been issued the device, making dead water is alive.
In General, I wonder the work of manufacturers of such equipment, it is one thing when a product fails in use, then there is the warranty, but when sold the product to forget to deliver the items, it has rust or is leaking, that too.
and why in my version everything works no rust and both sides are moving ?
by the way if to make the dead tap water, it will rust due to electrolysis. I hope this screw does not take ?

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Re: Structured water

Post by Димас » Sat Feb 25, 2012 18:08

ASD hmm...according to some characteristic the signs, the feeling that got a heavy load on the liver. The signs are well studied, as previously, there were problems with the authority.But the severity of pain and subjective increase not feel.
Today 2 doses of 1 ml.

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Re: Structured water

Post by Соучредитель » Sat Feb 25, 2012 18:30

About prblemy with activator water "Giftwares-2"
Dear Friends!
"Co-founder" is my nickname. But it concerns not only me, but also You members of the Forum, since You are their comments on the solved problems are also co-Founders in the development of various programs, devices, etc.. And this is the great power of the Internet that it is possible to obtain objective and subjective assessments on the issues raised.
The only thing you need to conduct all discussions rationally, without emotions otherwise we will be like the animal way relationship as it is presented on http://www.rwl.me/p0071.htm
In connection with the publication of critical comments about the test activator water
there are some judgments:

1. Sets "Giftwares" 2 and 3 were given a total of 7 testers to identify certain limitations of potential consumers in the future.
2. Identified deficiencies were to be provided by the manufacturer i.e. I personally, but not to the Internet. Tell me! Why criticize the device which is released only in one copy and for testing (each modification of the test apparatus is made only in u-m copies). Why introduce the members of the Forum misleading, as if this device already exists in the trade network. Imagine all the samples of the devices on pre-serial stage to put on display in the Internet, he would just ran out, and we are also from an overabundance of spam - info!!!

3. However, if the subject of conversation even in the Internet, and I need to answer the bills promised:
- questionable nut production were randomly set with a stainless steel, clearly confused by the color when cleaning the mounting locations. This is my fault in hindsight, that bear a public apology to Michael Shishmareva. The rest of the design is already worked out and more than 2 years in operation my relatives, whom I have them, thank God ...! Surely the honourable the Forum will convict the designer in the murder of their relatives...?!
4. Regarding the orders. They are taken 15 days before the New year on a prepaid basis under the promise of weekly performance. However, several unforeseen circumstances I did not allow in time to perform. The longest time spent waiting due to late delivery of components. You have to understand. Design Bureau "sharashka" in My single person, after the development of the prototype testing, is transferred to the research center "IKAR" on the run, and the revision, then all of the certification and promotion of mass production. To serial release no nits "ICARUS" nor I, had a penny from anyone for financial support, with the exception of their investments and prepayments of Testers. We must not forget that Designers have families and only "Crazy" can afford to pull the money on the often "mythical" development and this is their karma and the cross are looking for people to help (to restore health) at the expense of his family. So many of them are lonely and rejected in their families and the people around them. Forum users will understand me and with the other hand in terms of delays to load the basic work chief engineer of the plant http://b-k.su/ (12 minutes without stop) and in two other public http://rwl.me/ and http://www.kulibin.me/ . You have to take time from other days.

5. At the end of the controversial issues I would like to thank all Forum users for your patience. This debate is irrelevant, since the subject of his "Giftware" 2 is transmitted to the testing and revision of the research center "IKAR", and if he gets to mass production with flaws, then we dalhem!
I would also like to ask this: "Let's still be friends and the subject"!

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Re: Structured water

Post by Белый Камень » Sat Feb 25, 2012 20:59

Димас wrote:ASD hmm...according to some characteristic the signs, the feeling that got a heavy load on the liver. The signs are well studied, as previously, there were problems with the authority.But the severity of pain and subjective increase not feel.
Today 2 doses of 1 ml.
In the cleansing of the body, the liver with a direct participant, and the slags just a faithful companion of the problems with the liver, so nothing unusual happens. The water of BSL, milk Thistle)) I would have listened, perhaps the body brine you want))) acidic juices, a little natural salt to help :)

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Re: Structured water

Post by Димас » Sat Feb 25, 2012 21:55

Белый Камень wrote:I would have listened, perhaps the body brine you want)))
So I don't drink! :) (or You didn't mean it?)
Only sea salt consume.

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Re: Structured water

Post by Белый Камень » Sat Feb 25, 2012 22:52

Димас wrote:
Белый Камень wrote:I would have listened, perhaps the body brine you want)))
So I don't drink! :) (or You didn't mean it?)
Only sea salt consume.
No I'm not talking about it)) but there are Parallels.
Villanoviana is not water to dissolve and rinse, and complex processes)) People in General often a lot of crap in itself, plowed, and only the body of salt is not enough for something ie the same crap fresh, even the smell will not)) what about the cucumbers is known to all :)
Sometimes there comes a "begun" but the reasons are not always booze)) just the body asks for something, and, for example, than to restrain the appetite when cleaning, you may want to listen what the body says and what it asks for.
But the rule in this case, you do, all only note))

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Post by Тоха » Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:38

After the ASD-2 body really wanted sour. Lemons ate. was lucky to snatch a sour Mandarin. Direct praznik was.

A warning about alcohol is all the bases. 22 the second morning drink ASD and evening hours at 16.00 100 grams of wine. Well, it would seem that to be such that doses. Headache, unpleasant feeling in the abdomen were my companions hours to 10 PM.

And another point. 23 I stopped taking the drug until Monday. So today I remember the smell and taste of the drug and I want to take a dose. And so periodically I from February 24. Smell and taste do not always bring positive emotions, but the body requires.

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Re: Structured water

Post by ЗОМБИ » Sun Feb 26, 2012 20:19

here emae, battles what about Isatori :shock: :shock: :shock:

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I sincerely hope that Your design will be mass-produced and sold at an affordable price.
(I myself have had the plan for at least one W-3 and half a dozen W-2)
(by the way, for example, I never sold myself here BSL will not get -- they're aluminum, do not care in what form)

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Re: Structured water

Post by Димас » Sun Feb 26, 2012 23:44

Toja
It is strange that the body after ASD such a reaction. It would seem, why??? With heartburn have handled the medication fine. On the consciousness while no impact is not felt. Increased the dose to 2.5 ml. to 150 ml. of water. I remembered what it's like to smell me 8) A couple of times spoiled raw chicken in the fridge - the smell is very similar, after drinking "bouquet" in your mouth like the smell of the aroma from the Soviet burned-out trash. If anyone remembers, early that the bullies often set fire to garbage containers. So, after walking past be extinguished - the smell is very similar :)

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Re: Structured water

Post by Андрей Патрушев » Sun Feb 26, 2012 23:54

ЗОМБИ wrote:there's also the aluminium, I do not care in what form
So maybe civilization is ours only because aluminium has arisen... :? As soon as people learned to make clay pots, so it is with aluminum became inseparable... :wink:

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:21

Андрей Патрушев wrote:So maybe the civilization is ours only because aluminium has arisen... :? As soon as people learned to make clay pots, so it is with aluminum became inseparable... :wink:
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Re: Structured water

Post by Димас » Wed Feb 29, 2012 16:25

Andrei Patrushev
Michael_
Acquired ASD fraction 3 for compresses on skin. And how do you enter?Also using the syringe right into the bubble visually determined large fraction something...not gonna move the Needle? How to use the drug to eliminate stretch marks, may know? :)
By the way, notice (drink 3 ml. of ASD in 150 ml water 3-4 times a day) when listening to MM images BRIGHTER and more resistant steel and the head is that, if more light and sharpens your mind. Sleep deep, strong, refreshing. Heartburn was gone completely. I suppose the idea that it could be psychological and just a great feeling + MM again every day now.

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Wed Feb 29, 2012 16:54

demAs
I do not know. 3ью faction've never had. :?

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Post by Тоха » Wed Feb 29, 2012 21:01

All 3 days drinking ASD 2. Moderately. Without fanaticism. Today drew attention to the very pleasant thing. All day at the computer and my eyes are not tired!

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Sun Mar 04, 2012 21:10

just now stuck Izumrud-si to the kitchen.

the question arose as to shield the water from the garbage can standing in the neighborhood (well, not really close) under the sink.
to make the compartment of hardboard, obkleit it with foil
- paint tank in the style of BJ, and on top of the glue foil (I put tubes in them because the water is going can pick up information, while on the other hand it can pick up information from the dirty dishes in the sink)
to make both points

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Post by Ланцелот » Mon Mar 05, 2012 0:06

Why? IMHO this is unnecessary. If itching, the first. And really do exotic foil to ground.
I just have a card Converter, from Sanjeevini, under the tank. 8)

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Re: Structured water

Post by Искатель-2 » Mon Mar 05, 2012 13:21

ЗОМБИ wrote:just now stuck Izumrud-si to the kitchen.

the question arose as to shield the water from the garbage can standing in the neighborhood (well, not really close) under the sink.
to make the compartment of hardboard, obkleit it with foil
- paint tank in the style of BJ, and on top of the glue foil (I put tubes in them because the water is going can pick up information, while on the other hand it can pick up information from the dirty dishes in the sink)
to make both points
not ecranare, the tank is then the iron
well Obuasi its icons, and sanctify Izumrud-si nearest pop-star from the nearest house with a cross

although if tank debris is portable - it can be just another place to put

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Re: Structured water

Post by арте:м » Mon Mar 05, 2012 22:37

Because it seems that most often, ASD mentioned in this thread - ask here. May be someone of the owners СК1М puzzled attempts to copy SDA to clean water in the mode of information transfer? The sole purpose to win the scent in such an original way. :)

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арте:м wrote:Because it seems that most often, ASD mentioned in this thread - ask here. May be someone of the owners СК1М puzzled attempts to copy SDA to clean water in the mode of information transfer?
Here Michael_ wrote -
the properties of the ASD to transmit is possible, but the whole drug is is not replace. Given the fact that he is strong and requires individual adjustment when receiving, it should be done carefully.
By the way, I do not exclude the version that the panacea is a little from these properties and so it is....

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Re: Structured water

Post by ЗОМБИ » Tue Mar 06, 2012 22:02

Искатель-2 wrote:tank that the iron
I have plastic
safarigirl later

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Re: Structured water

Post by ЗОМБИ » Wed Mar 07, 2012 17:02

today came Ecomag 350P, took here http://abg.ru/rus/
the lowest prices

BUT, at first glance, the magnets didn't seem so megamashine (in the HDD are much powerful; although it may be the case made so that they are too far apart)

just pleased "to plastic pipes"... I have a steel pipe... well, whatever.

the question is, can someone in the know: what is orientation field and the configuration of the magnets needed for the magnetic conversion of the water? multipolar magnets from HDD will fit if you have to cover up their pipe? it will be much cheaper!

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