Bad writing firm, will answer to a comment====experience can be one-sided.....effective cleaning is one thing, parameters is another. and take off there is no uniqueness====
One-sided like this. Now it is possible to feed the soldiers with cat food. Previously for similar as well as poisoning due to an oversight units for sabotage===put to the wall. This scheme is the use of filters there is a clear sabotage. Army practice shows the true order of application, as it can be one-sided.
Definitely not=== nicely said, but how to get to the second floor, bypassing the first. What it is possible to obtain the effect of vitalitatii, what a beautiful word, if the water add pounds of manure. Only in the garden but not your own grandson in porridge.
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Explain with an example. I have a particular friend, a man of the old school and with the rank. Engaged in life science. And water. And most of what he does falls into the category of "not for all ears". Well, it is clear what I mean.
He told me a specific and simple story about a one-sided experience. Conduct clinical trials of the drug, which is really, from a chemical point of view, one distilled water. Placebo eliminated, the drug works by recording information on water testing is successful and everyone is happy, and so on. But glavvrach place where one of the sites of the test suspects that his fool. Ie that in fact there is not water, but something is not named, classified. He jokingly offers to record on a "water" normal drug atropine. Which pupils expand. They say if your "water" will expand as well as the usual drops - "believe". Did. In a sealed vial labeled them. Dripped. Expanded. DID NOT BELIEVE IT. Said that it is contrary to its practices, worldview and understanding. That has not prevented to bring all studies to the end and to correct on their observations (still, as I understand it, the office never denied).
If something is written somewhere in the manual, especially in the MILITARY, this does not mean that it is true.
The instructions are written by people. Based on the OBJECTIVES. Here most of the TANKS are machines with extremely limited resource, for example the engine. I.e. from the point of view of the layman, they are not appropriate. Since several hundred km and the engine in the trash. And all because in a real fight they don't live long. They have other problems.
army instructions are based on the absolutely specific relationship to the resource and updating it.
For example the fact that lie down for stock, should be replaced simply because it increases the probability of failure. But because of funding problems often not replaced...
Still RELIABLE information does not take the military, and in scientific literature. It is the professional, not educational. It's a little different. Since training gives an OVERALL understanding.
And professional - a lot of applications based on the broader knowledge and tasks.
Generally speaking my parents in Soviet times, he worked for many years in Sredmash (who do not live in those times, i.e. younger, make no mistake - this is what is now called Atommash, i.e. what delalo nuclear plants and research centers, have built closed cities in the country with spectabile, etc.), they're doing as chemists by training, just with issues of water treatment. Father systems to industrial cleaning. And my mom was an analysis and development of measuring techniques.
So here I am a little aware of how industrial and non-industrial clean water, and that there is destroyed, that is changing, and so on.
And definitely I can say - army approach here as it is not very suitable.
All have scientific evidence.
BUT there is a problem of worldview.
And it is VERY large.
In those days, that nobody told them about water features, such as the information on it, or the same ORP as a factor of influence on health, which does not coincide with the pH, although it may be associated with that.
Although, as you know, in a closed Ministry of technology was quite advanced and information too.
I.e., they do not take into account the fact that water is not only the chemical composition.
This is a correction in perception.
Now they have a perception for example allows you to evaluate the use of home addition, BSL-medeuskogo filter. Shungite and they used one time. Guided including your feelings as the primary factor.
By the way from the Soviet time, in their experience enough stories that did not fit then, and now "picture of the world".
So absolutely no use to row all under one comb.
And moreover, under the comb of the military instructions.<
He told me a specific and simple story about a one-sided experience. Conduct clinical trials of the drug, which is really, from a chemical point of view, one distilled water. Placebo eliminated, the drug works by recording information on water testing is successful and everyone is happy, and so on. But glavvrach place where one of the sites of the test suspects that his fool. Ie that in fact there is not water, but something is not named, classified. He jokingly offers to record on a "water" normal drug atropine. Which pupils expand. They say if your "water" will expand as well as the usual drops - "believe". Did. In a sealed vial labeled them. Dripped. Expanded. DID NOT BELIEVE IT. Said that it is contrary to its practices, worldview and understanding. That has not prevented to bring all studies to the end and to correct on their observations (still, as I understand it, the office never denied).
If something is written somewhere in the manual, especially in the MILITARY, this does not mean that it is true.
The instructions are written by people. Based on the OBJECTIVES. Here most of the TANKS are machines with extremely limited resource, for example the engine. I.e. from the point of view of the layman, they are not appropriate. Since several hundred km and the engine in the trash. And all because in a real fight they don't live long. They have other problems.
army instructions are based on the absolutely specific relationship to the resource and updating it.
For example the fact that lie down for stock, should be replaced simply because it increases the probability of failure. But because of funding problems often not replaced...
Still RELIABLE information does not take the military, and in scientific literature. It is the professional, not educational. It's a little different. Since training gives an OVERALL understanding.
And professional - a lot of applications based on the broader knowledge and tasks.
Generally speaking my parents in Soviet times, he worked for many years in Sredmash (who do not live in those times, i.e. younger, make no mistake - this is what is now called Atommash, i.e. what delalo nuclear plants and research centers, have built closed cities in the country with spectabile, etc.), they're doing as chemists by training, just with issues of water treatment. Father systems to industrial cleaning. And my mom was an analysis and development of measuring techniques.
So here I am a little aware of how industrial and non-industrial clean water, and that there is destroyed, that is changing, and so on.
And definitely I can say - army approach here as it is not very suitable.
All have scientific evidence.
BUT there is a problem of worldview.
And it is VERY large.
In those days, that nobody told them about water features, such as the information on it, or the same ORP as a factor of influence on health, which does not coincide with the pH, although it may be associated with that.
Although, as you know, in a closed Ministry of technology was quite advanced and information too.
I.e., they do not take into account the fact that water is not only the chemical composition.
This is a correction in perception.
Now they have a perception for example allows you to evaluate the use of home addition, BSL-medeuskogo filter. Shungite and they used one time. Guided including your feelings as the primary factor.
By the way from the Soviet time, in their experience enough stories that did not fit then, and now "picture of the world".
So absolutely no use to row all under one comb.
And moreover, under the comb of the military instructions.<
Re: Structured water
Oh, by the way, the above mentioned my parents are both military ranks senior. lieutenants and served after graduation in the chemical protection units of the army of his native country, so that with military technology more than familiar with on a very direct practice. And jokes of their application. But that's another story and not in this thread 
Very easy referring Chugai authority to implement dogma (or try to do), often simply because this dogma has introduced You.
I have way too technical education, though not chemical. But the school was prize-winning places on city Olympiads on chemistry, because I have a class with 5th on vacation was reading home technical library, which is clearly what is sloped in such parents.
The same reverse osmosis system is primarily a system of several components. Which by the way is actually working in continuous mode. And I do not by hearsay familiar with their living options. Do not knowingly scare people.
There are sanitary norms (and other norms for water or other mediums contact people), there are norms and rules of competent research from a scientific point of view. And there are instructions industry for example.
And then there are the realities of life.
And often these realities are not talking about that, about what you might think based on common information.
The reality of life unfortunately or fortunately are tested very often and very simply - on their own health. When we do what it EXPLICITLY corrects for the better, it has no "authority" we are not afraid
Years. ndtsat ago I was on a relatively informal event. There was a "green Party", which was then, as I understand it, swallowed the EP. There, judging by the event in which I was and the place where it was conducted (and it was a sanatorium space forces), as well as the person who brought me there in General there are mainly brought together people from services. And they sort of dug in different ways information on ecology. And reports on this internal event was read out. A lot of very informative, what I was partly acquainted from the experience of the wild 90s, when the environmental movement "democracy" has led to some people's shares of the region " and we've got an indoor plant, it poisons our city." By reason of their work duties from my mom, she sometimes went on business trips due to the fact that in such troubled cities, where the people demanded "justice," formed some of the interdepartmental Commission. Yes, when this was possible and happened as something strange but a little bit worked. So often it turns out that environmental problems are not associated with well-established private company, and something else, but it is very crookedly implemented. Other small household local factory. Yeah, cleaning the drain is above the water intake and so on.
Here and at Congress and green. Briefly can be summarized so that for example, the same Moscow, although there is much neblagopoluchnomu place water ( and its quality ) on the territory of Russia, but what carries water in this town is one of the most important factors leading to significant reduction of lifetime. And most of the contaminating factors are not those that you would think.
So here's the background on this approach is justified a reasonable search.
The situation will not be better in the short foreseeable time. Therefore, every reasonable person is looking for adequate solutions myself. And without those or other effective forms of cleaning cannot do. And it is not necessary to apply the army standards. It is not correct.<
Very easy referring Chugai authority to implement dogma (or try to do), often simply because this dogma has introduced You.
I have way too technical education, though not chemical. But the school was prize-winning places on city Olympiads on chemistry, because I have a class with 5th on vacation was reading home technical library, which is clearly what is sloped in such parents.
The same reverse osmosis system is primarily a system of several components. Which by the way is actually working in continuous mode. And I do not by hearsay familiar with their living options. Do not knowingly scare people.
There are sanitary norms (and other norms for water or other mediums contact people), there are norms and rules of competent research from a scientific point of view. And there are instructions industry for example.
And then there are the realities of life.
And often these realities are not talking about that, about what you might think based on common information.
The reality of life unfortunately or fortunately are tested very often and very simply - on their own health. When we do what it EXPLICITLY corrects for the better, it has no "authority" we are not afraid
Years. ndtsat ago I was on a relatively informal event. There was a "green Party", which was then, as I understand it, swallowed the EP. There, judging by the event in which I was and the place where it was conducted (and it was a sanatorium space forces), as well as the person who brought me there
in General there are mainly brought together people from services. And they sort of dug in different ways information on ecology. And reports on this internal event was read out. A lot of very informative, what I was partly acquainted from the experience of the wild 90s, when the environmental movement "democracy" has led to some people's shares of the region " and we've got an indoor plant, it poisons our city." By reason of their work duties from my mom, she sometimes went on business trips due to the fact that in such troubled cities, where the people demanded "justice," formed some of the interdepartmental Commission. Yes, when this was possible and happened as something strange but a little bit worked. So often it turns out that environmental problems are not associated with well-established private company, and something else, but it is very crookedly implemented. Other small household local factory. Yeah, cleaning the drain is above the water intake and so on.Here and at Congress and green. Briefly can be summarized so that for example, the same Moscow, although there is much neblagopoluchnomu place water ( and its quality ) on the territory of Russia, but what carries water in this town is one of the most important factors leading to significant reduction of lifetime. And most of the contaminating factors are not those that you would think.
So here's the background on this approach is justified a reasonable search.
The situation will not be better in the short foreseeable time. Therefore, every reasonable person is looking for adequate solutions myself. And without those or other effective forms of cleaning cannot do. And it is not necessary to apply the army standards. It is not correct.<
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Please forgive me, fingers braided today, pulled a lot of typos seem to have a very loaded were the days.
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Out of print monograph Bankova Valery Ivanovich on the water (edition of 75 copies 
):
UDC 556:537.8:504.75
Ban'kov, V. I., Water, electromagnetic fields and human life. - Ekaterinburg: UGMA, 2011,234 S.
ISBN 978-5-89895-487-1
The book is devoted to new biological problems, showing the relation of the structural properties of water, its interaction with the natural low frequency pulse modulated (information) electromagnetic fields. This interaction significantly affects the person's life and creates, in the end, the conditions for a functional governance structures of a living organism. In the basis of the formulation of this problem the author put hypothesis about the possibility of "design" of body functions and structures of the body using the system of information exchange between the state parameters of water and natural electromagnetic fields. Under this hypothesis, the author shows that modulating the pulsed nature of these interactions and racemizes water is a real conditions for the controlled formation of living structures, for information discreteness DNA is not confined only to the genome.
The rationale for this hypothesis is based on a review of almost all of research interest of experimental and theoretical data about the electromagnetic processes in the biosphere and water conditions covering all levels of organization of living systems - molecular, cellular, organ and organism.
The author presented the research results obtained in the study of the properties of water in its interaction with the defined parameters of the pulsed low-frequency electromagnetic fields. Considered the possibility the obtained results to assess the functional state of water when used in the diagnosis and treatment and management processes protein synthesis.
The book is intended for biologists, physiologists, physicians, physicists, biophysicists, and computer scientists, gerontologists - as researchers, and graduate students.
Executive editor Doc.med.PhD, Professor ban'kov, V. I., Reviewer Doc.med.PhD, Professor Larionov L. P.
ISBN 978-5-89895-487-1
©UGMA, 2011
The CONTENTS
Preface 5
CHAPTER I. introduction 6
1.1. Understand the functions and importance of water in human life 6
1.2. The importance of water in the evolutionary process of life on Earth 12
1.3. Water and the origin of life on Earth 17
CHAPTER II. Hypotheses, concepts and studies of the effects
properties of water on living organisms 26
2.1.0 the concept of "structured water" 26
2.2. The memory of water 30
2.3. Homeopathy and water 34
2.4. Water, protein synthesis and aging processes of the human body 42
2.4.1. The participation of water in protein synthesis 42
2.4.2. Theories of aging related to DNA, and part of the water
in the aging process 53
2.5. Electromagnetic fields and water 58
2.6. Cancer and water 64
2.7. Talaya, "alive" and "dead" water - the Golden ratio 78
2.8. Light and heavy water 87
CHAPTER III. The interaction of water with living organisms
the biosphere and the geo Earth-to-Space 99
3.1. The interaction of water with living organisms 99
3.1.1. Water and plants 99
3.1.2. Water and micro-organisms 104
3.1.3. Water and aquatic organisms 108
3.1.4. Water, animals and people 113
3.2. The water influence on the biosphere and geosystems 117
CHAPTER IV. On the criteria of the water that govern the physiological
functions 126
4.1. Factors determining exposure criteria water
on the physiological functions of the human body 126
4.1.1. Biophysics of the formation of clusters 126
4.1.2. The properties of the cluster system of water on the surface of biological membranes 134
4.1.3. Properties of water in magnetic and electric fields 144
4.1.4. About the physiological meaning of the Association of water 149
4.2. On the possibility of constructing any living organism with the use of the properties of water 153
4.2.1 .The factors underlying the state of water needed
for the design process 155
4.2.2. Mechanisms of formation of living structures, giving
the desired properties of the original substance in the water 162
4.2.3. The role of water in principle, the active use of genotypic conglomerate of a living organism, his adaptation to the environment 170
CHAPTER V. control Technology properties of water that affect the human body 174
5.1. Monitoring the status of the functional systems of the human body when exposed to the optimized parameters of drinking water 174
5.2. The technique of determining the functional properties of water
impact on human health 180
5.3. The necessary and sufficient parameters of drinking water during its production, a positive influence on the physiological state of the human body 183
5.3.1. Properties of drinking water 183
5.3.2. The management structure of the water 186
5.4. Comparative base of the functional properties of the waters of the artificial and
natural origin 191
Conclusion 197
Key terms and concepts 209
List of abbreviations and symbols 215
Literature 216
The application 233
PREFACE
This book I would like to start with the words of the great Russian physiologist Pyotr Kuzmich Anokhin: "In essence, the most important factor in scientific creativity is the ability of the researcher with the highest precision to distinguish where ends "valid" and starts "likely" hypothetical".
Only the correct use of this criterion will protect the researcher from dogma accidental or natural at a certain stage of assumptions and hypotheses.
You can bring a lot of negative examples this rule. For example, a significant factor is that the day turns to evening and night. And likely also on the substance here was that the change of day due to the motion of the sun and leaving it over the horizon. We know how many tragedies in human civilization happened because likely was built in the inviolable and sacred dogma. The discovery of Copernicus did not change the sound, but completely overturned the probable, making it equally significantly reliable [1].
The theme of the research of "WATER" - the great theme in the meaning of "life" and not only in this domestic sense (very important), but also in the formation (appearance), the design of life in space and time (this is even more important).
Effects and phenomena, assumptions and hypotheses, experiments and their results are non-repeatable, exclusive of a device for the production and structuring of water is the results of a differential approach to the study of such a grandiose topic or otherwise lack of understanding of the boundaries between "valid" and "probable".
The book attempts to summarize the facts and the most probable concept, backed by scientific studies that give high probability to give the opportunity to the most progressive thinking scientist to design, manage, build living organisms in their full functional and anatomomorphological diversity.<
):UDC 556:537.8:504.75
Ban'kov, V. I., Water, electromagnetic fields and human life. - Ekaterinburg: UGMA, 2011,234 S.
ISBN 978-5-89895-487-1
The book is devoted to new biological problems, showing the relation of the structural properties of water, its interaction with the natural low frequency pulse modulated (information) electromagnetic fields. This interaction significantly affects the person's life and creates, in the end, the conditions for a functional governance structures of a living organism. In the basis of the formulation of this problem the author put hypothesis about the possibility of "design" of body functions and structures of the body using the system of information exchange between the state parameters of water and natural electromagnetic fields. Under this hypothesis, the author shows that modulating the pulsed nature of these interactions and racemizes water is a real conditions for the controlled formation of living structures, for information discreteness DNA is not confined only to the genome.
The rationale for this hypothesis is based on a review of almost all of research interest of experimental and theoretical data about the electromagnetic processes in the biosphere and water conditions covering all levels of organization of living systems - molecular, cellular, organ and organism.
The author presented the research results obtained in the study of the properties of water in its interaction with the defined parameters of the pulsed low-frequency electromagnetic fields. Considered the possibility the obtained results to assess the functional state of water when used in the diagnosis and treatment and management processes protein synthesis.
The book is intended for biologists, physiologists, physicians, physicists, biophysicists, and computer scientists, gerontologists - as researchers, and graduate students.
Executive editor Doc.med.PhD, Professor ban'kov, V. I., Reviewer Doc.med.PhD, Professor Larionov L. P.
ISBN 978-5-89895-487-1
©UGMA, 2011
The CONTENTS
Preface 5
CHAPTER I. introduction 6
1.1. Understand the functions and importance of water in human life 6
1.2. The importance of water in the evolutionary process of life on Earth 12
1.3. Water and the origin of life on Earth 17
CHAPTER II. Hypotheses, concepts and studies of the effects
properties of water on living organisms 26
2.1.0 the concept of "structured water" 26
2.2. The memory of water 30
2.3. Homeopathy and water 34
2.4. Water, protein synthesis and aging processes of the human body 42
2.4.1. The participation of water in protein synthesis 42
2.4.2. Theories of aging related to DNA, and part of the water
in the aging process 53
2.5. Electromagnetic fields and water 58
2.6. Cancer and water 64
2.7. Talaya, "alive" and "dead" water - the Golden ratio 78
2.8. Light and heavy water 87
CHAPTER III. The interaction of water with living organisms
the biosphere and the geo Earth-to-Space 99
3.1. The interaction of water with living organisms 99
3.1.1. Water and plants 99
3.1.2. Water and micro-organisms 104
3.1.3. Water and aquatic organisms 108
3.1.4. Water, animals and people 113
3.2. The water influence on the biosphere and geosystems 117
CHAPTER IV. On the criteria of the water that govern the physiological
functions 126
4.1. Factors determining exposure criteria water
on the physiological functions of the human body 126
4.1.1. Biophysics of the formation of clusters 126
4.1.2. The properties of the cluster system of water on the surface of biological membranes 134
4.1.3. Properties of water in magnetic and electric fields 144
4.1.4. About the physiological meaning of the Association of water 149
4.2. On the possibility of constructing any living organism with the use of the properties of water 153
4.2.1 .The factors underlying the state of water needed
for the design process 155
4.2.2. Mechanisms of formation of living structures, giving
the desired properties of the original substance in the water 162
4.2.3. The role of water in principle, the active use of genotypic conglomerate of a living organism, his adaptation to the environment 170
CHAPTER V. control Technology properties of water that affect the human body 174
5.1. Monitoring the status of the functional systems of the human body when exposed to the optimized parameters of drinking water 174
5.2. The technique of determining the functional properties of water
impact on human health 180
5.3. The necessary and sufficient parameters of drinking water during its production, a positive influence on the physiological state of the human body 183
5.3.1. Properties of drinking water 183
5.3.2. The management structure of the water 186
5.4. Comparative base of the functional properties of the waters of the artificial and
natural origin 191
Conclusion 197
Key terms and concepts 209
List of abbreviations and symbols 215
Literature 216
The application 233
PREFACE
This book I would like to start with the words of the great Russian physiologist Pyotr Kuzmich Anokhin: "In essence, the most important factor in scientific creativity is the ability of the researcher with the highest precision to distinguish where ends "valid" and starts "likely" hypothetical".
Only the correct use of this criterion will protect the researcher from dogma accidental or natural at a certain stage of assumptions and hypotheses.
You can bring a lot of negative examples this rule. For example, a significant factor is that the day turns to evening and night. And likely also on the substance here was that the change of day due to the motion of the sun and leaving it over the horizon. We know how many tragedies in human civilization happened because likely was built in the inviolable and sacred dogma. The discovery of Copernicus did not change the sound, but completely overturned the probable, making it equally significantly reliable [1].
The theme of the research of "WATER" - the great theme in the meaning of "life" and not only in this domestic sense (very important), but also in the formation (appearance), the design of life in space and time (this is even more important).
Effects and phenomena, assumptions and hypotheses, experiments and their results are non-repeatable, exclusive of a device for the production and structuring of water is the results of a differential approach to the study of such a grandiose topic or otherwise lack of understanding of the boundaries between "valid" and "probable".
The book attempts to summarize the facts and the most probable concept, backed by scientific studies that give high probability to give the opportunity to the most progressive thinking scientist to design, manage, build living organisms in their full functional and anatomomorphological diversity.<
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Michael, very pleased with the information. Many people said I fully agree, but YOU have some sherokhovatosti.
About yourself. A graduate of Bauman 1973,March, iron. Most of the time worked on all sorts of rubbish, ie subscriptions.
The use of filters at the feeling===Why, when you can use the analogy faleevskoy instrument channels. Take IMEDIS. As diagnosis is quite informative. As a therapy, particularly the use of various programs= is full of shit. The Creator of the IMEDIS Gotovskiy died from cancer, i.e., States many and in fact, the donut hole, unable to pull its founder. The same fate Hilda Clart, although a lot of chatter and created the instrument around this principle. The same T. J. fistulous, do not know is alive or not, described part of the number. That's how much we need to understand, because all of them have common grain, but just enough incorrectness in the statements, as a result, their problem. And a huge mass of man, telling lies stuff, with a great desire to survive at any cost, And people believe, investing their pennies.
Can also be used as diagnostics for Karavaeu, at the turning century, its colour.
You can also use the urine PH by using litmus paper or a PH meter. Medicine States that the rate of urine from 5.0 to 8.0 units. At blood PH 7.4. But whether these morons believe it, and here, there is a question.
About yourself. A graduate of Bauman 1973,March, iron. Most of the time worked on all sorts of rubbish, ie subscriptions.
The use of filters at the feeling===Why, when you can use the analogy faleevskoy instrument channels. Take IMEDIS. As diagnosis is quite informative. As a therapy, particularly the use of various programs= is full of shit. The Creator of the IMEDIS Gotovskiy died from cancer, i.e., States many and in fact, the donut hole, unable to pull its founder. The same fate Hilda Clart, although a lot of chatter and created the instrument around this principle. The same T. J. fistulous, do not know is alive or not, described part of the number. That's how much we need to understand, because all of them have common grain, but just enough incorrectness in the statements, as a result, their problem. And a huge mass of man, telling lies stuff, with a great desire to survive at any cost, And people believe, investing their pennies.
Can also be used as diagnostics for Karavaeu, at the turning century, its colour.
You can also use the urine PH by using litmus paper or a PH meter. Medicine States that the rate of urine from 5.0 to 8.0 units. At blood PH 7.4. But whether these morons believe it, and here, there is a question.
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Maybe for such a modest circulation,the author will not be against availability of monographs in electronic form?Андрей Патрушев wrote:out of print monograph Bankova Valery Ivanovich on the water (edition of 75 copies ):
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Ask...Андрей Кабанков wrote:May be,for such a modest circulation,the author will not be against availability of monographs in electronic form?
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Now the difference in PH and ORP. Point a and go to point B. Measure the PH distance, i.e. km And those measured in ORP, i.e., millay, go to us. We measure the hydrogen ions, and those where he ran an electron in oxidation or recovery. I find it easier in the gradation of hydrogen. Here described is the same, but from different sides. Then. how to understand =ORP as a factor of influence on health, which does not coincide with the PH, although it may be associated with such=. Here count is the same, but different characteristics. And the nature of their influence on the person.
About Emerald= check out the website of Oleg Mosin, WATER. So I enter into a search engine, make reference to do not know. PhD in chemistry, a decent man. Immense material by water, there is an article about the EMERALD. The content of the article I agree completely + what happens to the contents in the water under the influence of current. Here is decent information, especially when using horse currents.
In relation to electrolysis, mold, all and Sundry, but to turn to the classics, no brains.
After all, there was a great work of academician KUL, there was a genius, KULAKOV, DMITRY FEDOROVICH, 25 years stalinski camps. There is work on ispolzovanii silver electrodes in different voltage ranges, is where the silver does not decompose.
About Emerald= check out the website of Oleg Mosin, WATER. So I enter into a search engine, make reference to do not know. PhD in chemistry, a decent man. Immense material by water, there is an article about the EMERALD. The content of the article I agree completely + what happens to the contents in the water under the influence of current. Here is decent information, especially when using horse currents.
In relation to electrolysis, mold, all and Sundry, but to turn to the classics, no brains.
After all, there was a great work of academician KUL, there was a genius, KULAKOV, DMITRY FEDOROVICH, 25 years stalinski camps. There is work on ispolzovanii silver electrodes in different voltage ranges, is where the silver does not decompose.
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Write pieces, do not place the file in one place. Michael, the mention of placebo and entry into the water. A placebo is a placebo, work with the subconscious. Write atropine or dipyrone, or other, there are no questions. Another thing is to count the difference of such devices, because thinner here, an electron or a field from it, this difference will not take. Same with vitalization very clearly the limitations in its use. Here is the principle of creation, replication, and other things with vitalization.
The discrepancy with the filter just not clear, without a placebo and other things. There is an obstacle where you accumulate all sorts of midges, fleas and other. They live there, are born and die, creates a warm and dark environment. The next time you Strait through a filter will take care of it. And the body begins to dispose of a foreign protein and so on. Where are placebos and so on. In this issue said it all.
The discrepancy with the filter just not clear, without a placebo and other things. There is an obstacle where you accumulate all sorts of midges, fleas and other. They live there, are born and die, creates a warm and dark environment. The next time you Strait through a filter will take care of it. And the body begins to dispose of a foreign protein and so on. Where are placebos and so on. In this issue said it all.
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I would paper piece of work bought, if possible.... or pay electronically at any reasonable price that would help a new edition, slightly larger. Actually, my colleague knows a few small Moscow publishing houses that are able to make microterry box spring cover (well, a few of larger size, such as 500 or 1000экз). I think many of the regulars of this forum with great interest got acquainted with this book in any form.
It's certainly not a large amount... but still.
Or you can put 10K copies for auction
It's certainly not a large amount... but still.
Or you can put 10K copies for auction
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Yes, what's a Midge? From the pipe midges not pouring. Well, from a more or less normal. Dissolved in water pollutants and impurities, even of organic origin, with the same success can be deposited anywhere, including the tubes themselves. Ie, it is not clear about what this "nursery" is involved. For example, the same track filter or reverse osmosis absolutely for free biological does not pass through, there is salt in almost everyone tested.ВАЛ1 wrote:Write pieces, do not place the file in one place. Michael, the mention of placebo and entry into the water. A placebo is a placebo, work with the subconscious. Write atropine or dipyrone, or other, there are no questions. Another thing is to count the difference of such devices, because thinner here, an electron or a field from it, this difference will not take. Same with vitalization very clearly the limitations in its use. Here is the principle of creation, replication, and other things with vitalization.
The discrepancy with the filter just not clear, without a placebo and other things. There is an obstacle where you accumulate all sorts of midges, fleas and other. They live there, are born and die, creates a warm and dark environment. The next time you Strait through a filter will take care of it. And the body begins to dispose of a foreign protein and so on. Where are placebos and so on. In this issue said it all.
If we talk about matrix and other systems - well, they bloom if you do not understand that they shed and rarely open. 've had all summer 5микронный in a transparent glass filter at the entrance of the highway from the well. Nothing bloomed.
If I can see the problem in the majority of modern filtration and purification systems for the home, so it is in those systems where needed or applied mineralizatsiya and the tapes of the mineralizer, it is necessary ponit is made of chemicals which is the norm of the residual impurities depending on the purity index (previously applied KHCH, analytical grade, CDS and TD symbols, it is now possible there are also some international standards, behind the times and don't know). I.e. the components of the mineralizer produced artificially.
Well, the problem is that the cleaned-mineralizable even made negative ORP, pH - optimal, but still Yes, there is information. Yes, not measured. Although indirect methods are still there - the same salt (the crystals in the body) is the simplest method - good water thirsty. This tester almost every person works very well.<
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Tell me why in the modern measurement systems for water, professional not farcical, there are TWO DIFFERENT and separate electrodes for pH and ORP ???ВАЛ1 wrote:Now the difference in PH and ORP. Point a and go to point B. Measure the PH distance, i.e. km And those measured in ORP, i.e., millay, go to us. We measure the hydrogen ions, and those where he ran an electron in oxidation or recovery. I find it easier in the gradation of hydrogen. Here described is the same, but from different sides. Then. how to understand =ORP as a factor of influence on health, which does not coincide with the PH, although it may be associated with such=. Here count is the same, but different characteristics. And the nature of their influence on the person.
About Emerald= check out the website of Oleg Mosin, WATER. So I enter into a search engine, make reference to do not know. PhD in chemistry, a decent man. Immense material by water, there is an article about the EMERALD. The content of the article I agree completely + what happens to the contents in the water under the influence of current. Here is decent information, especially when using horse currents.
In relation to electrolysis, mold, all and Sundry, but to turn to the classics, no brains.
After all, there was a great work of academician KUL, there was a genius, KULAKOV, DMITRY FEDOROVICH, 25 years stalinski camps. There is work on ispolzovanii silver electrodes in different voltage ranges, is where the silver does not decompose.
And read carefully this topic. I think you will find answers here.
As for emerald and articles Mosin (apparently abusive), that met interest is no, because any "competent" man of science could write a lot of things.
Somehow your personal experience more.
Emerald affects the part of physics and chemistry, about which textbooks You will unfortunately not read. Although scientific works, including quite academic enough. There are many links with the Izhevsk website. I highly recommend there to see.
and as for their products, where there is such a thing as RESONANCE water treatment, when water passes no electrolysis, but its ORP is changed to negative. A Cup of coffee supplied to the device - measured before and after and after minus became. If the ORP and pH would be one indicator, it would be very funny... then it was suggested by someone that the version of the device, the hydrogen seeps through the table on which put the Cup, but I don't think so - for a short exposure time, even in strong hydrogen absorption on the device itself, using a new Cup would not have penetrated to values capable of changing the readings.
And the answer is published in SCIENTIFIC papers available on the same website. This resonant phenomenon.
There effects associated with the restructuring of the water and not only that.
Next, about "high current". Emerald does not consume actually. it is low voltage. This pulse mode, which is akin to such phenomena as neskoromny pulsed "electrolysis" of water, walking and distilate great. Where current=0
to such is relatively difficult, many done. And then give one of the electrodes of the Sens or just some sensitive person and tell it that it is not the electrode and the source of "power" or energy. And will be on your right.
So to measure the phenomena that go into the emerald or BSL-med on the basis of someone's damning article - it makes no sense.
Especially since there are a lot of objective tests, one of which I mentioned above.
The second is the utility of freezing of water in the blood. The so-called analysis of live blood. It is a highly visual study. Incidentally a scientific direction. One of the Soviet institutions did still dunno how long.
Yes, officially it is not used. But around the world quickly runs up the popularity of this method and those who can spend (the more there is to know is nothing special, low visual Novikova diagnosis).
And Oh yeah - the same emerald or other similar cleaning set, exactly like different Microhydrin and other means, the same effect on blood (and only her darling) for a short time noticeably.
And sense then the articles. When the question can then be interpreted as follows - "to die under the reading of scientific articles or survive sipping a delicious but healthful moaning of some kind of "science" water".....<
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Asked. - Does not want, but promised to think...Андрей Кабанков wrote:May be,for such a modest circulation,the author will not be against availability of monographs in electronic form?
Michael, throw in a PM, or mail the address, I just send.
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Well.Андрей Кабанков wrote:I
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MICHAEL wrote about midges and other= this capacious Russian folklore, describing the diversity around us parasites.
The filter does not bloom= this requires photons, i.e. light. I have the same vaunted filter shungite is available was slime mold fungus. As an example, the analogue of the tea fungus. On this issue said all do not accept, there is nothing I can do about it.
About Oleg Mosin, then nothing. Boy Chait. A huge selection of information on WATER but all from the point of the existing science. Can be used as a popular reference. That does not take the instrument, man does not perceive. His website is worthy of respect, and to me he is not a relative, nothing to praise me no reason.
=GOOD WATER thirsty.....Here is the tester fails=. The issue is complex. First of all, good tasty water has a large selection of salts. You as a chemist, know it better than me. And salt are different, especially calcium. On the question of calcium, its application to the body and other functions, as well as reactions in the body===all of the recommendations of the medicine is flawed, because osteoporosis, different types of arthritis, the rheumatism of different kinds are not reduced, but is growing and getting younger. Consequently, all issued med. the information was wrong. So you're saying the water is good===this is not the estimated response.
The filter does not bloom= this requires photons, i.e. light. I have the same vaunted filter shungite is available was slime mold fungus. As an example, the analogue of the tea fungus. On this issue said all do not accept, there is nothing I can do about it.
About Oleg Mosin, then nothing. Boy Chait. A huge selection of information on WATER but all from the point of the existing science. Can be used as a popular reference. That does not take the instrument, man does not perceive. His website is worthy of respect, and to me he is not a relative, nothing to praise me no reason.
=GOOD WATER thirsty.....Here is the tester fails=. The issue is complex. First of all, good tasty water has a large selection of salts. You as a chemist, know it better than me. And salt are different, especially calcium. On the question of calcium, its application to the body and other functions, as well as reactions in the body===all of the recommendations of the medicine is flawed, because osteoporosis, different types of arthritis, the rheumatism of different kinds are not reduced, but is growing and getting younger. Consequently, all issued med. the information was wrong. So you're saying the water is good===this is not the estimated response.
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PH or ORP===I important hydrogen ion, because it is, and the source of energy, it is a powerful antioxidant. The electron in oxidation or restoration is secondary. Opinion of alkalinity in the water, its use, says the mass is not understanding the subject matter. The alkali required, Yes required, but indications for a given organism, at a given time. To declare a massive use of===is deliberate sabotage.
The whole debate about the alkalinisation or acidification of the body=this is the maximum important topic. Sorry doctors, it can not handle. Educated people leave, or rather left. Shit is booming.
Two years ago, I was in the Institute of Parasitology on Leninsky Prospekt. Residues from the gorgeous building on the outside, inside ruin.
Izhevsk website will look. The work of The resonance is straightforward, what's the difference any way transfers the information, a lot of ways and without resonance. The desired directional flow of any energy, that's all and its modulation. And from = the munus= need to go.
If not difficult = what is the current in the Emerald, which electrodes======there is a huge options where it is possible to scratch turnip Russian pensioner.
If possible, it still would be a copy of the book. The claimed content is intriguing.
The whole debate about the alkalinisation or acidification of the body=this is the maximum important topic. Sorry doctors, it can not handle. Educated people leave, or rather left. Shit is booming.
Two years ago, I was in the Institute of Parasitology on Leninsky Prospekt. Residues from the gorgeous building on the outside, inside ruin.
Izhevsk website will look. The work of The resonance is straightforward, what's the difference any way transfers the information, a lot of ways and without resonance. The desired directional flow of any energy, that's all and its modulation. And from = the munus= need to go.
If not difficult = what is the current in the Emerald, which electrodes======there is a huge options where it is possible to scratch turnip Russian pensioner.
If possible, it still would be a copy of the book. The claimed content is intriguing.
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there is not much you nashite on the water! I bought the activator of water, ukrainskoy assemblies (EAS-6). Seeland advised to drink with a negative ORP. acquired. thought clusters (they write associates) small, the absorption ability is super-duper. checked the ORP meter -430 alive, dead 560. the type of good. mixed 1 to 2. but no,much pours red spots! so that test drive to do better. not everyone in "the cashier". is collecting dust. only the flowers of the rod as bad, wife wanted to throw some watered alive. the effect surpassed expectations. the leaves are large and bold.
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These "wonderful" Kiev EAV, not done right. They have me, but I took them because of the silicon electrode. However, until the mind is not driven. Require Dopilka. From BSL-honey or Emerald, none of the familiar masses no rashes were not. And these guys have everything ... a little weird. Including is the pulse current is almost boiling. In General, there is need to throw out the electronics and put another. And the case good, if the glue does not stink the first couple of weeks.
Ie I think the rash may not be due to "-ORP" and how does a specific activator.
Ie I think the rash may not be due to "-ORP" and how does a specific activator.
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Interesting twist...Михаил_ wrote:In General, there is need electronics to throw away and put another
somewhere on the forum Patrushev gave the scheme. You have in mind?
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Andrew, how can you get a copy of this book? at least in electronic form.Андрей Патрушев wrote:out of print monograph Bankova Valery Ivanovich on the water.
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I have only own copy.Антоха wrote:Andrew, how can you get a copy of this book? at least in electronic form.Андрей Патрушев wrote:out of print monograph Bankova Valery Ivanovich on the water.
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a copy in electronic form? I would have paid for it.
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found your forum on request "ORP electrodes to wash"
in General then raised the topic of - type th will happen if you take bath in water with low ORP.
Reporting - 2 years of use the emerald from Icarus to the soul - reduces ORP a little bit. The shift of the Delta 200.
http://shop.ikar.udm.ru/index.php?productID=726
a month ago I bought a miraculous shower of this fellow - http://rwl.me/p0057.htm
shifts gooorazdo stronger.
Together measured the bath - outputs -200mV. Input +400.
The effect is sooo strong. Since there's much hanging out will not - if you have questions - welcome to my life. That is the theme of water.
http://iskateli.info/showthread.php?t=370
with respect - the author of the project Seekers.
in General then raised the topic of - type th will happen if you take bath in water with low ORP.
Reporting - 2 years of use the emerald from Icarus to the soul - reduces ORP a little bit. The shift of the Delta 200.
http://shop.ikar.udm.ru/index.php?productID=726
a month ago I bought a miraculous shower of this fellow - http://rwl.me/p0057.htm
shifts gooorazdo stronger.
Together measured the bath - outputs -200mV. Input +400.
The effect is sooo strong. Since there's much hanging out will not - if you have questions - welcome to my life. That is the theme of water.
http://iskateli.info/showthread.php?t=370
with respect - the author of the project Seekers.