Again, the question about Karls device СЕ69, that's about it here wroe did not say, as he on account of the conversion of water and its improvement? http://www.hscti.net/c_chigenerator_ce69.html
I just need an intermediate so to speak either after the first cleaning? Maybe it will fit? How do you read?) Mikhail advise if this is possible)
Structured water
Guys but they sell a Device for measuring ORP , PH and temperature but the price is unrealistically low
sounds like a hoax? lot put only 6 days and the seller with a zero rating and the premise is from Canada what do you think? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... K:MEWAX:IT
the seller is not answering questions
sounds like a hoax? lot put only 6 days and the seller with a zero rating and the premise is from Canada what do you think? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... K:MEWAX:IT
the seller is not answering questions
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there is actually written that he(the device) new. It is quite possible and very common. They sell a lot of new things, not necessarily used.do., and I used to buy - convenient and profitable. Of course, when there is a brand store, it is possible in it. Testers these Chinese all, the price of them.... just then wind several times, and someone finds a niche and sells new products (and often the manufacturer through an intermediary or directly, usually also indicates the presence of unopened factory packaging). Only need on the settings the seller to watch. If he sells 1pc or lot of these (the one pointed out-more than 10), and feedback. This I would not take - he's new, reviews zero.
The other thing is that often taking into account postal delivery can get when you buy 1pcs more expensive than here.
Makes sense for regular purchases through an intermediary(which generally aggregates parcels into one), or if purchase volume exceeds transport costs significantly.
The other thing is that often taking into account postal delivery can get when you buy 1pcs more expensive than here.
Makes sense for regular purchases through an intermediary(which generally aggregates parcels into one), or if purchase volume exceeds transport costs significantly.
Hey and anyone device uses MRET(Technology of activation of water molecular resonance )
http://www.o8ode.ru/article/answer/meth ... talaya.htm
http://www.vivalife.co.il/home.php?dir= ... hes&lang=1
http://www.cocoonnutrition.org/catalog/page_MRET.php
brochure in English http://www.healingwatertechnology.com/S ... -Water.pdf
Yes it would be interesting to skip the water with a negative ORP using such a device
the device inside
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http://www.o8ode.ru/article/answer/meth ... talaya.htm
http://www.vivalife.co.il/home.php?dir= ... hes&lang=1
http://www.cocoonnutrition.org/catalog/page_MRET.php
brochure in English http://www.healingwatertechnology.com/S ... -Water.pdf
Yes it would be interesting to skip the water with a negative ORP using such a device
the device inside
<and anyone can explain is there is such device
http://cgi.ebay.com/Digital-ORP-Redox-M ... 4cf6e0f410
from the translation of the description to the device-Please note that the device will not work with "electrolysis systems" , or "ionized water."
http://cgi.ebay.com/Digital-ORP-Redox-M ... 4cf6e0f410
from the translation of the description to the device-Please note that the device will not work with "electrolysis systems" , or "ionized water."
in General, all these devices are made for the aquarium hobby mainly. There are important water parameters for different species of fish (and other animals) different.
I think the comment stems from the fact that the electrolyzer and tonizirovaniya water provide the active medium, the readings of which can scale and be (possibly, not sure) is not the correct dimension or to cause damage to the device. For example, I know that some ionized water is separated from his wife... And during the electrolysis in the water, drop the ORP meter is not exactly right
Another question is whether this is permanent or included in the documentation in the hope that the device will not stick in such water veronesean (so to say to control the process), and the same burn can.
I think the comment stems from the fact that the electrolyzer and tonizirovaniya water provide the active medium, the readings of which can scale and be (possibly, not sure) is not the correct dimension or to cause damage to the device. For example, I know that some ionized water is separated from his wife... And during the electrolysis in the water, drop the ORP meter is not exactly right
Another question is whether this is permanent or included in the documentation in the hope that the device will not stick in such water veronesean (so to say to control the process), and the same burn can.
Michael thanks for the answers, maybe the dealer perestrahovatsya suddenly niburi who wants to check the ORP of WATER in a working cell
after all, ORP meters have the same principle of operation of the millivoltmeter with ultra-high input soprotivlenie at the end of the platinum electrodes and hlorserebryany
expensive laboratory instruments, the purity of platinum is higher and an electronic circuit progresivna
http://www.ikar.udm.ru/sb46-2.htm
after all, ORP meters have the same principle of operation of the millivoltmeter with ultra-high input soprotivlenie at the end of the platinum electrodes and hlorserebryany
expensive laboratory instruments, the purity of platinum is higher and an electronic circuit progresivna
http://www.ikar.udm.ru/sb46-2.htm
so here I don't see on your ORP meter while negative values, even emerald, two versions - a dirty electrode (or even dead) at the meter, or a dirty emerald (haven't washed, but when it's all dirty and shitty water flows).
Only see the variation (and all), in short a Chinese device and Chinese in Africa... right, though his methods do for your measurements with the sizing mechanism.
Only see the variation (and all), in short a Chinese device and Chinese in Africa... right, though his methods do for your measurements with the sizing mechanism.
In General came to believe that my universal meter:
- of course working thermometer
- apparently works well Solemar, he's conductivity meter...
- more less tolerable working pH meter, but the readings float from time to time, especially if the volume of water is small and the probe to stir the water, the impression is that it changes its composition or something.. pH goes acidic in the direction
- ORP meter is NOT WORKING, but you need to try to clean it according to the instructions (there is something about the alcohol like it was and distilat, read, done, to clarify). Yesterday after attempting to measure ORP of the slurry water from the "Emerald" with a highly positive ORP, it moved the dial up. Ie he hung around the value 200 (from 150 to 240 in the black), and now exactly the same but loose in the area around 400.... thus indications of the float.
They float and if the sensor is not immersed in the water, what I do is not clear where does dry the sensor....
shorter Oh.
This device will leave, but will buy another, probably will try the same Hannah, its like here sells coral MLM, I think should be more reliable.
However at the same time has ascertained that a number of completely different structuring of activities that I feel pure feelies this and taste (i.e. on the other perceive this water, plus it changes the taste) often have an impact on AFP, even if the water was in one vessel and the direct impact of the physical plane on it.
For example 7 times transfusions pseudomaculata (bought in automake, but it is really back-osmotically cleanse water, as apparently all of this kind distilat) from beaker to beaker using the above mentioned ring of the ILC, pseudop changed from 220 to 170 (which he really was, and was not clear on the reason for the shift in the head of the instrument).
Similarly, the same water home charge, standing alone in charging system 2.0 (in the sense of my BJ) is closer to what was in this bottle (there is such capacity which is poured out of the emerald water), a little minusovat, and re-structured in a bottle inscribed with marker mandalas Lite 1.0 - 50 units below. (the retention time in each tank is about 12 hours, then cycle through all the shimmering light to spend money, it is from 2.0, and in 2.0 from a jug which from the filter).
Relatives promised to clean Emerald with vinegar according to the instructions.... let's see... after that ORP needs to be exactly the negative of the output. Buy another meter and maybe more than one, taking into account the above mentioned articles about inaccuracies ORP-meters in the negative range.
This still try to revive.....<
- of course working thermometer
- apparently works well Solemar, he's conductivity meter...
- more less tolerable working pH meter, but the readings float from time to time, especially if the volume of water is small and the probe to stir the water, the impression is that it changes its composition or something.. pH goes acidic in the direction
- ORP meter is NOT WORKING, but you need to try to clean it according to the instructions (there is something about the alcohol like it was and distilat, read, done, to clarify). Yesterday after attempting to measure ORP of the slurry water from the "Emerald" with a highly positive ORP, it moved the dial up. Ie he hung around the value 200 (from 150 to 240 in the black), and now exactly the same but loose in the area around 400.... thus indications of the float.
They float and if the sensor is not immersed in the water, what I do is not clear where does dry the sensor....
shorter Oh.
This device will leave, but will buy another, probably will try the same Hannah, its like here sells coral MLM, I think should be more reliable.
However at the same time has ascertained that a number of completely different structuring of activities that I feel pure feelies this and taste (i.e. on the other perceive this water, plus it changes the taste) often have an impact on AFP, even if the water was in one vessel and the direct impact of the physical plane on it.
For example 7 times transfusions pseudomaculata (bought in automake, but it is really back-osmotically cleanse water, as apparently all of this kind distilat) from beaker to beaker using the above mentioned ring of the ILC, pseudop changed from 220 to 170 (which he really was, and was not clear on the reason for the shift in the head of the instrument).
Similarly, the same water home charge, standing alone in charging system 2.0 (in the sense of my BJ) is closer to what was in this bottle (there is such capacity which is poured out of the emerald water), a little minusovat, and re-structured in a bottle inscribed with marker mandalas Lite 1.0 - 50 units below. (the retention time in each tank is about 12 hours, then cycle through all the shimmering light to spend money, it is from 2.0, and in 2.0 from a jug which from the filter).
Relatives promised to clean Emerald with vinegar according to the instructions.... let's see... after that ORP needs to be exactly the negative of the output. Buy another meter and maybe more than one, taking into account the above mentioned articles about inaccuracies ORP-meters in the negative range.
This still try to revive.....<
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And You just try (without any rings, etc.) perekipat (1-2кап/h) of glass in a glass...Михаил_ wrote:For example 7 times transfusions pseudomaculata (bought in automake, but it is really back-osmotically cleanse water, as apparently all of this kind distilat) from beaker to beaker using the above mentioned ring of the ILC, pseudop changed from 220 to 170 (which he really was, and was not clear on the reason for the shift in the head of the instrument).
According to the article "the redox potential of water saturated with hydrogen.", ORP less than -600mV it is possible to define a weak solution of potassium permanganate. It needs to brighten. For high values of ORP he, unfortunately, does not react.
There is experience with the iron plate in the water. The less the ORP, the lower plate needs to rust. Only this long. During this time, AFP may increase in the strength of other reasons.
There is experience with the iron plate in the water. The less the ORP, the lower plate needs to rust. Only this long. During this time, AFP may increase in the strength of other reasons.
Michael and you have here such a device http://cgi.ebay.com/pH-C-ORP-EC-CF-TDS- ... 35b1e84744
and I think the quality of the devices found such a device made in Taiwan him replaceable electrodes are sold for 16 dollars at the bottom of a web page, you can add to the order http://www.gainexpress.com/product_info ... 7hl1rtip32
Michael and Hanna are cheaper to buy on Ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/Hanna-HI98121-pH-OR ... 56350d6b53
http://cgi.ebay.com/Hanna-HI-98201-ORP- ... 3cb59e0bf4
and I think the quality of the devices found such a device made in Taiwan him replaceable electrodes are sold for 16 dollars at the bottom of a web page, you can add to the order http://www.gainexpress.com/product_info ... 7hl1rtip32
Michael and Hanna are cheaper to buy on Ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/Hanna-HI98121-pH-OR ... 56350d6b53http://cgi.ebay.com/Hanna-HI-98201-ORP- ... 3cb59e0bf4
Yes, this. He also has a plus - electrode to the external connector of the model, there is a lot different....
ie if something is changed the electrode, not the device, and the electrode is much cheaper.
Yes, Hannah you on the eBay to buy cheaper, question time. Me over Korean issues for the automation of experiments have been going on for three weeks and still lie on the customs here, so the only question is that of priority. However I'm not particularly in a hurry, especially since free time is still small, but the water is now a lot of information not associated with this branch and I want to understand how it physically interacts with each other (in the sense of how much impact one on the other and how what can be sacrificed in practice, in terms of water parameters.).
A colleague found the device mentioned in the article on ORP method of hydrogen saturation - produces Lugansk, they have the same model of replacement electrodes, not the price for the ultimate.
ie if something is changed the electrode, not the device, and the electrode is much cheaper.
Yes, Hannah you on the eBay to buy cheaper, question time. Me over Korean issues for the automation of experiments have been going on for three weeks and still lie on the customs here, so the only question is that of priority. However I'm not particularly in a hurry, especially since free time is still small, but the water is now a lot of information not associated with this branch and I want to understand how it physically interacts with each other (in the sense of how much impact one on the other and how what can be sacrificed in practice, in terms of water parameters.).
A colleague found the device mentioned in the article on ORP method of hydrogen saturation - produces Lugansk, they have the same model of replacement electrodes, not the price for the ultimate.
will detail later... lots of interesting observations, which are confirmed to start sometimes without instruments more efficient and easier - when I know that water gives the result that she gives, not scratching their heads as to what's inside.....
very short review:
I wanted to buy another ORP meter and electrode Patriotic to his (they are BNC connector change), and bought until the cell BCLME well, it happened... they announce large negative ORP - well, I was interested to see that the beast is this highly negative ORP.
results:
-of course the thing working, but this whole system of "buckets" transfusions and.... but if justified it is possible to poprinimat....
my ORP meter still showed just the negative values, but not in the range of 500-800 minus, as they say in advertising, and to begin -250.
possible buggy device (then in the previous measurements have an OTP. value but less if the device unit 200 is wrong is a plus), will be other device - specify comparison. In Moscow may be desired are not found, today I will order on eBay, will have to wait until you arrive, plus will order the replacement sensor.
really from the body feel good effect is negative water, even my relatively healthy.
at other times of day (particularly night) the device display svezhesdelannym -170 on water (both times as allowed in the video, drove two runs in a row of electrolysis). - conclusion on the structure of water is influenced by daily and weekly planetary rhythms, where (and not on water quality) the variation in the readings of a negative ORP after treatment.
- interesting observations on charging лайт1.0 already negative water, but briefly you will not describe - again, it all came more than trivial. Will have to investigate a bit more...
decided to see how the situation looks like recommend advertising doctors from Karlovci and BSL-medouneu on the phase-contrast microscope, i.e., on the blood and some single-celled animals living in water. Until I looked, eyeing the right equipment.
- BSL-med ate on the procedure of electrolysis-purification approximately 10% of salt content (measured by the same meter mode solamere).
while all of overview (Yes, the body is very thin, it is usually what makes the ex-defense industry, on the contrary, thick-walled and durable - there is a thin-thin, you can almost break fingers. but not too heavy... well, if somewhere to take... mahina certainly the one with the buckets
A brief preliminary conclusion - as I thought, with a negative ORP it is not so trivial and simple, for example a number of very similar effects on health, as far as I know proven and the description of the effects of other "waters" it happens without neg. ORP, but with the proper structures in water, i.e. is one of the mechanisms (or several) that you can use through the water to activate regeneration, but he's not really sustainable. (Yes, night the treated water some time quickly lost AFP despite a closed glass container under the throat - it was also connected with the external energoupravleniye large scale).
The second conclusion is apparently ORP meters need to have a couple different manufacturers to more accurately understand the testimony he swim or water changes.
The third conclusion is that the benefit to learn from neg. values it seems possible, but Balk at it as a panacea is not necessary, the real situation is obviously more complicated than just negative. AFP, here, even on the first observation, i.e. combination of different factors. I actually believe that the water taken at different times in this way, will have different properties if it is not overwritten on top.
That's about it.<
very short review:
I wanted to buy another ORP meter and electrode Patriotic to his (they are BNC connector change), and bought until the cell BCLME
well, it happened... they announce large negative ORP - well, I was interested to see that the beast is this highly negative ORP.results:
-of course the thing working, but this whole system of "buckets" transfusions and.... but if justified it is possible to poprinimat....
my ORP meter still showed just the negative values, but not in the range of 500-800 minus, as they say in advertising, and to begin -250.
possible buggy device (then in the previous measurements have an OTP. value but less if the device unit 200 is wrong is a plus), will be other device - specify comparison. In Moscow may be desired are not found, today I will order on eBay, will have to wait until you arrive, plus will order the replacement sensor.
really from the body feel good effect is negative water, even my relatively healthy.
at other times of day (particularly night) the device display svezhesdelannym -170 on water (both times as allowed in the video, drove two runs in a row of electrolysis). - conclusion on the structure of water is influenced by daily and weekly planetary rhythms, where (and not on water quality) the variation in the readings of a negative ORP after treatment.
- interesting observations on charging лайт1.0 already negative water, but briefly you will not describe - again, it all came more than trivial. Will have to investigate a bit more...
decided to see how the situation looks like recommend advertising doctors from Karlovci and BSL-medouneu on the phase-contrast microscope, i.e., on the blood and some single-celled animals living in water. Until I looked, eyeing the right equipment.
- BSL-med ate on the procedure of electrolysis-purification approximately 10% of salt content (measured by the same meter mode solamere).
while all of overview (Yes, the body is very thin, it is usually what makes the ex-defense industry, on the contrary, thick-walled and durable - there is a thin-thin, you can almost break fingers. but not too heavy... well, if somewhere to take... mahina certainly the one with the buckets
A brief preliminary conclusion - as I thought, with a negative ORP it is not so trivial and simple, for example a number of very similar effects on health, as far as I know proven and the description of the effects of other "waters" it happens without neg. ORP, but with the proper structures in water, i.e. is one of the mechanisms (or several) that you can use through the water to activate regeneration, but he's not really sustainable. (Yes, night the treated water some time quickly lost AFP despite a closed glass container under the throat - it was also connected with the external energoupravleniye large scale).
The second conclusion is apparently ORP meters need to have a couple different manufacturers to more accurately understand the testimony he swim or water changes.
The third conclusion is that the benefit to learn from neg. values it seems possible, but Balk at it as a panacea is not necessary, the real situation is obviously more complicated than just negative. AFP, here, even on the first observation, i.e. combination of different factors. I actually believe that the water taken at different times in this way, will have different properties if it is not overwritten on top.
That's about it.<
About electro-chemical activation of water, I can say that in some shaggy year checked the ORP of the water after treatment bagerovsky emerald ( modification Diamond ) in their lab – the value amounted to about -600 mV. However, to date I have not met a single article, which would have the research data on the effect of treated water on living organisms. Technologies after more than one year, perhaps ( IMHO obviously ) there are preconditions preventing publication of existing data. If anyone has information, I think everyone would be interested to see it. About BSL-MED-1 you can read a small material at: http://vsedermo.ru/articles.php?article_id=19 It is hard to imagine that you can seriously talk about full and unconditional security aluminum compounds introduced into the purified water this unit.
0. well, the fact that You are able to pessimistic (izvinyayus for the forced birth of a new word ) anything = I have long understood
1. There are many reasons why studies are not published, and prevent them sometimes not what they contain, and or fingerboard or closing a certain political will. At least I know of such cases and more than real. As I wrote, there are also cases of closing what has been certified, researched, sold and no negative feedback, and closing on purely false pretenses.
2. with a large negative ORP may do not all simple, here are a couple of hematologists who spoke with my colleague, say that if this get too carried away, that they say may occur some over-saturation of cells with water (although this also nowhere to be found adequate references), however, as far as I know
3. for the above reasons, I'm slightly inclined to believe that was telling me people who are professionally involved in energy and information water, namely, that get involved in large values of ORP (he was speaking of below -200 ...-250) - not worth it. However, it is possible that for "resuscitation", i.e. hotfix, running the same function - it is it. Normally with this water so that I feel myself a lot when thirsty and when already there.
Again, AFP is extremely easy neytralizuya information (I got these results on actual measurements by transfusion in charged capacity), in other cases not neutralized or increased. As I wrote above, I do believe that ORP is a secondary factor in the biological saturation of water, which is not always expressed through AFP. And while the experiments confirm this. There will be more data published. Ie I believe that the water is saturated well, based on the terminology of this website, we say orgonon, and ORP - is a secondary manifestation of this saturation, which is not always there. But with the possibility of autodeterminaci ORP, was in some cases almost instantly, suggesting that the harm that water is still difficult.
4. again, there are natural sources of negative ORP and where they are, people do not get sick, evidence that they have excess ORP's something wrong - no.
5. ORP is not the only important parameter of water (about chemical composition is not mean at all, it is about interaction with the living.
6. research, albeit not a medical one, probably will (we are interested in this issue).
7. About the negativity on BSL-MED-1 - I do not see to NO reason, because:
- this appliance is not born today, back in the Soviet time, do not think that then pulled would be something dangerous - it was very strict, I do not speak by hearsay, my parents professionally engaged in the treatment and control of water for the major chemists.
- formed aluminium compounds are not soluble, and submitted to a lot of everything else. Want to challenge the defense's patented technology - please with links to electrochemistry, to not unfounded, read srach srochnyj sites I certainly would not and others would not recommend.
- to compare - to guide the analysis of water before and after, only quality.... then there will be nothing to talk about in detail.
but actually all this is nonsense, because personally I have a great test that I use - personal feel of the water. As well as the feelings of the relatives. Working with intuition is the best indicator. If the family intuition works, and many of the readings agree, I definitely put a big plus sign to the manufacturer and completely ignore any negativity.
In General, BSL-med is not the only such apparatus, and the water is very complicated process it can be very different. So to say something can compare a few.... I probably will do it. Of course studying the reaction of biological objects and of course documented.
My interest in this - I want to understand. While I thought that rather good record on water and nothing more is not necessary, and even dirty to be cleansed. And there are real-world examples. However, nothing prevents to study the situation more broadly.
In order not to miss anything.
ps as here rightly pointed out a link to an article about AFP - in the area of negative values is difficult, no charge d measurement techniques, so there is no possibility to say unequivocally that there are hundreds of negative deviations can be very large in different directions. When I see testimony from 2-3 devices with fundamentally different electrodes will be a more accurate picture. And while I'm all driven by the manufacturers ' figures as a rather approximate.<
) anything = I have long understood 1. There are many reasons why studies are not published, and prevent them sometimes not what they contain, and or fingerboard or closing a certain political will. At least I know of such cases and more than real. As I wrote, there are also cases of closing what has been certified, researched, sold and no negative feedback, and closing on purely false pretenses.
2. with a large negative ORP may do not all simple, here are a couple of hematologists who spoke with my colleague, say that if this get too carried away, that they say may occur some over-saturation of cells with water (although this also nowhere to be found adequate references), however, as far as I know
3. for the above reasons, I'm slightly inclined to believe that was telling me people who are professionally involved in energy and information water, namely, that get involved in large values of ORP (he was speaking of below -200 ...-250) - not worth it. However, it is possible that for "resuscitation", i.e. hotfix, running the same function - it is it. Normally with this water so that I feel myself a lot when thirsty and when already there.
Again, AFP is extremely easy neytralizuya information (I got these results on actual measurements by transfusion in charged capacity), in other cases not neutralized or increased. As I wrote above, I do believe that ORP is a secondary factor in the biological saturation of water, which is not always expressed through AFP. And while the experiments confirm this. There will be more data published. Ie I believe that the water is saturated well, based on the terminology of this website, we say orgonon, and ORP - is a secondary manifestation of this saturation, which is not always there. But with the possibility of autodeterminaci ORP, was in some cases almost instantly, suggesting that the harm that water is still difficult.
4. again, there are natural sources of negative ORP and where they are, people do not get sick, evidence that they have excess ORP's something wrong - no.
5. ORP is not the only important parameter of water (about chemical composition is not mean at all, it is about interaction with the living.
6. research, albeit not a medical one, probably will (we are interested in this issue).
7. About the negativity on BSL-MED-1 - I do not see to NO reason, because:
- this appliance is not born today, back in the Soviet time, do not think that then pulled would be something dangerous - it was very strict, I do not speak by hearsay, my parents professionally engaged in the treatment and control of water for the major chemists.
- formed aluminium compounds are not soluble, and submitted to a lot of everything else. Want to challenge the defense's patented technology - please with links to electrochemistry, to not unfounded, read srach srochnyj sites I certainly would not and others would not recommend.
- to compare - to guide the analysis of water before and after, only quality.... then there will be nothing to talk about in detail.
but actually all this is nonsense, because personally I have a great test that I use - personal feel of the water. As well as the feelings of the relatives. Working with intuition is the best indicator. If the family intuition works, and many of the readings agree, I definitely put a big plus sign to the manufacturer and completely ignore any negativity.
In General, BSL-med is not the only such apparatus, and the water is very complicated process it can be very different. So to say something can compare a few.... I probably will do it. Of course studying the reaction of biological objects and of course documented.
My interest in this - I want to understand. While I thought that rather good record on water and nothing more is not necessary, and even dirty to be cleansed. And there are real-world examples. However, nothing prevents to study the situation more broadly.
In order not to miss anything.
ps as here rightly pointed out a link to an article about AFP - in the area of negative values is difficult, no charge d measurement techniques, so there is no possibility to say unequivocally that there are hundreds of negative deviations can be very large in different directions. When I see testimony from 2-3 devices with fundamentally different electrodes will be a more accurate picture. And while I'm all driven by the manufacturers ' figures as a rather approximate.<
interesting-sell such handmade electrolyzer it is possible to gather containers connected by a pipe with thread http://cgi.ebay.com/REDOX-2-Quart-low-c ... 361wt_1105
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