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Post by Михаил_ » Tue Apr 26, 2011 22:25

Yes, exactly, exactly. He has 10 years hanging up and running, bought not me. During this time (in addition to regular cleanings by staff) broke only the threaded tip of the faucet. From the manufacturer all the spare parts there are worth a penny. Relatives wanted to buy a new emerald in the shop so learn why have dissuaded them, give them repair plastic parts on the 200R and recommended to use it for another 10 years. On the topic-AFP now not clearly say, I do not really care about the numbers, although want a number of "water" a number of field experiments. I care about personal feelings from the water. After emerald and its OK to drink even in the time of spring thawing, home to drink raw water after it infused with a little jug of silver (what good is not quite right, in the sense of constantly silver a little water, but again, this is not my tradition).

In General, hardware and other measurements I will do, I find it interesting to study not only the filters but also some parameters of various waters obtained by means of structuring (including how my charging system and third party). While collecting the instrument base... going to measure a set of parameters, although it does not provide the detailed pictures still. Talked a long time with people who have water and professionally, for decades, structured, or rather not structured, but the information (which is different, because not just the structure, and the entry specific information). At the exit of a long conversation - with a heap of parameters which can show changes in water objectively say what the results are, the information may only experience or good sense :)
I.e. Yes, it is possible to measure ORP, salt (or conductivity), pH....
to determine the presence and quality of structures (information), to measure viscosity and surface tension (and then it changes however just when writing information to the water, but the question is how recorded.... ie, these changes can be small or noticeable).
It is possible to determine the existence of structures at the dry residue under a microscope, ideally at the molecular level, electron microscope. Not perfect - almost Emoto, but the salt, like so: http://matrica137.ru/page1297152036/Avt ... viyah.html
But when any kind of indicators useful to say whether such water and what its impact is impossible. Ie there is no definite answer ever. No, of course there is if 1. extra information on water was not written or otherwise fell 2. if we know exactly how the information will work for one reason or another.
Of course about "neutral" structured water usually is risk or uncertainty can not carry.
I was warned from games with excessive negative ORP...
And told different stories from among those who was engaged when talking about it nobody wrote in open sources.
For example the real story about how one person (the true experimenter) tested the water in 3 days unconscious. Dose effects 1капля. (not a joke).
Frankly, I little while for this effect to achieve.
The fact is that some structures (probably close to the different nature and therefore have resonance with them) are supported in the water very well and this is determined by another parameter, due to which there is homeopathy. Only in homeopathy, the effects are relatively weak... and possible the same, but strong. Ie structured water still has a parameter number of cycles of reproduction structure (initial recorded information) without distortion. Well there is some multivalued value, millions it seems. And this determines how far the effect will spread from introduced into the body (or somewhere else) the volume of water with the initial information.
In addition, I was surprised to learn that water can preserve the structure at a temperature much above 36 (80 degrees approx) .
In General, all difficult :) previously I simply approached the question - is broken water is nominally structured nature, there is a record of information, but it does not live long. Is living a long time sometimes decades. Convinced (shown).
The theme was much harder than I thought.
Now develop a set of test ideas for at least a superficial qualitative assessment of different waters. Because it was interesting to look deeper, since I found out that there is where to dig.<

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Tue Apr 26, 2011 22:34

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Duc it electrolysis coupled with a magnetic stirrer tinder all the information nafig... or am I wrong?

excessive -BDN well as a single antioxidant of training... probably :) for him I have nazakazyval of minpribor :D

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Post by Михаил_ » Tue Apr 26, 2011 23:01

1. I'm not sure. Ie the dirt. which is usually in the water - Yes, tinder is probably but. what comes out instead - a little too well, perhaps however Martina stirrer somehow structures the water by vortex (most importantly the right to rotate!). Normal water needs to have some natural structure. Then in her body as in our EK is literally starting to regenerate. For example, I was a bit surprised that is definitely structured water can moles be removed. From the energy point of view, the birthmark is a defect of the cocoon, often having roots in a past life (physical injury, usually a puncture wound for example), from a biological point of view, the birthmark is something like fungal lesions in body tissue, symbiosis, and why I think that there walks next to the cancer risk. To get her together "peacefully" in fact, you need to remove both defects in one way or another, i.e. to contribute to the regeneration of the pod and cells. Water -for me that was unusual because it was not on difficult structured water with some "reasonable" stuffing, but about fairly simple structures not recorded "magic" but "academic" way, i.e. in terms of what may and widely staring, but academics themselves see.
2. i.e. after the magnetic stirrer is all one would need to write something positive in life, and if you write, then maybe stirrer nafig not needed. At least I've discovered by accident that 1лайт charging system ruined the water (in a good way of course, but the taste has changed) for a few minutes. I think there are plenty of other ways to effectively charge the water those or other natural structures, you just need them to look better. And then we would not be very important as it is erased, will be canceled. Will remain important only chemical contamination.
3. Chemical pollution is also all fun. As in the movie about the water... as I mentioned above, rings of the ILC can clean water including salt. It is also interesting. Ie I might pace soon recognize that the negative attitude to distillate was wrong :)
In particular, the same (mentioned above) is a specialist in water said to me, why they choose a certain store water for their production - she's just like everyone else... just not mineralized. Reverse osmosis of salts at zero. So, according to him, the distortion of regular structures is minimal. The storage period has little effect. But ion impurities introduce distortions in the information. Not fundamental, but something noticeable. How to check - I do not know.
In General, having now a lot of new data, including clinical (turns out it was studied very carefully for many years in a very civilized Russian medical universities), I see that what I know about water is almost nothing... it is much smarter... or let's just say there are anomalies.
I used to know a couple of those ( for example well known to all the baptismal water, which actually was known before baptism as a historical event, and as described in his article Nuvis, is associated with a particular planetary phenomenon. He called it a "reset", I'm inclined to believe that is the pole of the Homo in the annual cycle, plus some more features).
Now I see that there are many things to be stable and indelible form on the water. And it can be a great help and a big problem.

there's also the problem of balance. Where are the stories about living and dead water? they have different objectives.<

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Post by Михаил_ » Tue Apr 26, 2011 23:08

ЗОМБИ wrote:
excessive -BDN well as a single antioxidant of training... probably :) for him I have nazakazyval of minpribor :D
Well, I think it is possible and on the knee to it is the negative ORP
But we'll see. I've bought a universal tester, but something I'm not sure that he even a minus sign on the scale ORP is :) we need to understand.
By the way once upon a time I tried to measure the "glow" of water on the Kirlian camera, in fact almost the GDV, in the office, just for the camera with issues to work with samples. It was strange to me... there is a discharge coming through the water. The water in the microtube such quartz. One attempt is. Then you need to wash-drying. Since water changes from discharge and the second snimay always different from the first. In General, I spat then - not science. Well there are pictures, but what they sense is not understood (well, interestingly to verify that there Muldashev wrote about a special glow). So. Then Grunanlage the vial of horseradish wash - water is sticky and viscous as glue kontseljarskoj. I thought that the water had changed the properties, but because of information about it anywhere was not, it was left in as a contingency, I have glitches or dissolution of the electrode occurs. But recently I was told that this is not a glitch but really is super-ionized water. I understand she has almost no evaporation.

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Tue Apr 26, 2011 23:08

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by the way, some of the bourgeois apparatus next to "acidic water" I saw a picture where he was depicted washing this acidic water...
you (acid water) as any use for the body?

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Tue Apr 26, 2011 23:12

Михаил_ wrote:And I was recently told that this is not a glitch but really is super-ionized water. I understand she has almost no evaporation.
I cheyto heard that this divorce from the Turkish pseudo XS... although, as usual :?
Михаил_ wrote:I've bought a universal tester
I ordered a "Multimonitor PHT-027: pH meter, conductivity meter, Solemar, ORP meter, thermometer"

Kierowcy like something answered... tomorrow I'm going to spam Izumrudova...

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Post by Михаил_ » Tue Apr 26, 2011 23:55

well, I don't know what's the Turkish pseudo.. and the water I touched, or rather to wash tried many times myself.. and on a shelf not spilled vial was not evaporating.
So to say it is fingered myself.

Yes, I have the same set of f-functions, called RNT-028 passport - probably the twin brother, are all one-China :) also took him a set of calibration solutions. In General he behaves well, but I included him a couple of times, there is no time scheduled to do the measurements. Although what to learn is.

To measure the surface tension (which, again, testifies to the emergence of structures), a colleague purchased a meter with graduated tubes, I haven't seen it. There is another way-the usual drip, only the desired analyte. Libra.
More ways a lot (with surface tension), just this couple - very simple.

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Post by Михаил_ » Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:03

By the way, what answered Kierowcy? For their Emerald SI is very similar to Emerald + any standard set of filters with reverse osmosis. Well, there are different... as they... Aquatory.. as far as I know they have generic cartridges, membrane track like us.... But usually there is still the surge tank model, in order to supply filtered water under pressure at hand, and of the crane to put the second one on the sink, but that's not important, the details of the constructs. In General, it seems that all options for such cartridge filters are from one plant, so perhaps attention should focus on the actual emerald.

PS offtopic. In connection with last year's smoke in the surrounding areas wanted to buy channel filters the air by after-burning and HEPA filters. Looking for branded, which saw last year (then not yet ripe to buy, or rather not managed, spun), and found this: http://test.vozdyx.ru/

Can someone come in handy. There are a lot of various shots, for example prof filters for rooms of Smoking for many people. I think with the potential of smoke can handle.

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Post by Мила » Wed Apr 27, 2011 4:03

ЗОМБИ wrote:Mila... you (acid water) as any use for the body?
Supposed, Yes. :shock:
Ph 6.0 to wash and rinse her hair.

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Post by _Алекс_ » Wed Apr 27, 2011 4:27

Hello world!)
Here decided to change the Aqua disk to something more suitable for yourself. Since there was already life, read the forum here and saw http://www.filter-nerox.ru
Did not understand it was good or not, Mikhail thought you wrote that he is a worthy filter. Filters work well but clogged quickly(already wrote others).
I was Aqua disk, everything is possible, it may take a second time. But still, maybe something will advise?)
I have the system shungite+silicon insist. Well, a simple filter after the first tap. Aqua disc I had the second number converting water after coal.
Thank you.

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:36

Alex
I can say that he used the clone Nerox Water -- a doctor or something like that... anyway, after about six months of use there's mold, because I was giving a jar of water in which hung the two balls from a large bearing... washed even more often than in the instructions.
if you use it, you have to press down with something heavy and inert.

don't remember the link, but the site of water doctors or proksa already have a new design of filters... there once in a single housing and storage tank and the capacity for source water and membrane in the middle... I would have taken.

Михаил_ wrote:by the Way, what answered Kierowcy
dark :cry: finish the correspondence (i.e. when you order a filter) -- will tell the details now... just no time :?

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:08

ЗОМБИ wrote:remember Andrei Patrushev said that Emerald quickly litter...

Andrew, about what Emerald was it?
Well, it's been 15 years, and then all 20 back - they just appeared then... :? And in General they have done in Sverdlovsk in the license plate factory and also claimed that it is their own original design (for submarines was applied).

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:11

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well are you going to do around some emeralds and XS which one is better :(

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:57

Well, judging by the description, design is identical. The Emerald should have been periodically washed with acetic acid.

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:21

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OK, thanks, I understood in what direction to look :)

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Wed Apr 27, 2011 13:13

so far as I understand, the problem in automatic dosage and the composition of the filling remineralize module... if you buy it separately, you can assemble your Izumrud-SI Atoll'of a desired block of remineralization and Emerald(nesi).

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Post by _Алекс_ » Wed Apr 27, 2011 15:10

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And as a result?) What would you recommend?)

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Post by _Алекс_ » Wed Apr 27, 2011 15:17

ЗОМБИ wrote:Alex
I can say that he used the clone Nerox Water -- a doctor or something like that... anyway, after about six months of use there's mold, because I was giving a jar of water in which hung the two balls from a large bearing... washed even more often than in the instructions.
if you use it, you have to press down with something heavy and inert.

don't remember the link, but the site of water doctors or proksa already have a new design of filters... there once in a single housing and storage tank and the capacity for source water and membrane in the middle... I would have taken.

This? VD Family: http://www.ecomem.ru/kat.html
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Post by ЗОМБИ » Wed Apr 27, 2011 15:18

Alex
nothing yet... I think...

you until this is read
http://forum.ixbt.com/topic.cgi?id=47:966
http://forum.ixbt.com/topic.cgi?id=47:9332

I'm now engaged in reading :)

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Post by _Алекс_ » Wed Apr 27, 2011 16:27

ЗОМБИ wrote:Alex
nothing yet... I think...

you until this is read
http://forum.ixbt.com/topic.cgi?id=47:966
http://forum.ixbt.com/topic.cgi?id=47:9332

I'm now engaged in reading :)
Well, here look: http://www.ecomem.ru/kat.html

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Wed Apr 27, 2011 18:31

Alex
wowo, this is the easiest I have moldy :cry:

it seems to me that the right will supply reverse osmosis or track membrane with subsequent mineralization of only the electrolysis was (well, for example the complex of the most essential salts)

and in order to fill seconda I'll be doing a mixture of mummy/stone oil and anything else on the water after electrolysis on a magnetic stirrer at work... for example will a jar of this fluid to leave the mixing (mixer noise).

You only find out which is better the track or the reverse osmosis membrane and how to throw a block remineralization for electrolysis :lol:
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Post by ЗОМБИ » Wed Apr 27, 2011 18:34

Michael_
by the way, what locals say about the Sens after the water track membranes?

PS ordered the same model 028 turns on multi-monitor, but wanted the three indicators at the same time... dissuaded consultants :?

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Wed Apr 27, 2011 18:51

we still have to work out a solution cheaper for the adoption of a -BDN-bath
surely after salmanovsky bath in a tub soak for 10 minutes and :ay

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Post by _Алекс_ » Wed Apr 27, 2011 18:58

ЗОМБИ wrote:Alex
wowo, this is the easiest I have moldy :cry:

it seems to me that the right will supply reverse osmosis or track membrane with subsequent mineralization of only the electrolysis was (well, for example the complex of the most essential salts)

and in order to fill seconda I'll be doing a mixture of mummy/stone oil and anything else on the water after electrolysis on a magnetic stirrer at work... for example will a jar of this fluid to leave the mixing (mixer noise).

You only find out which is better the track or the reverse osmosis membrane and how to throw a block remineralization for electrolysis :lol:
Well, there is a VD-family FK1 she and mineralizes so to speak))

http://www.ecomem.ru/fkpvpodrobno.html#1
http://www.ecomem.ru/annot/fk1.html

I haven't tried, study.

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Post by Михаил_ » Wed Apr 27, 2011 22:14

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186 pages of forum to read - well, I'm not a monster :) then announce the result of collective intelligence :)

By the way, I honestly thought that membrane osmotic and track are the same -no?

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