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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Sat Nov 06, 2010 12:30

Мила wrote:so It turns out that alkaline water to drink and not useful? It turns out that the use of such water is constantly going on self-regulation/homeostasis of the body? We have spent a lot of energy for its maintenance
Yes, I believe that you can 15 days for a good shake-up of the body. More can lead to gastritis with high acidity. But hardly "too much energy" is spent, - the body is very rational.
Мила wrote:Why is it that I feel much more vigorouslywhen you drink this water (9.5 ph) liters? Why is the endocrine system was better? Placebo?
You see, logic is a tricky thing, because the conclusions depend strongly on the starting point... :? What "feel with much more energy" is a stress reaction aimed at getting rid of the stress factor...

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Sat Nov 06, 2010 12:37

Владмосква wrote:pH the more the better.
Yeah, if you need aluminium to ease... :wink:
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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Sat Nov 06, 2010 13:05

Экко wrote:and where is alkaline balance, silver, structuring? is it all connected?
On the one hand, everything is always interconnected with all... :wink: On the other, just like always at the forum - one's snagged on another and went... :roll: :?

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Post by Раймис » Sat Nov 06, 2010 14:42

Ordered a tester of water, see what water we have from a healing spring flows.
http://secretlatvia.com/index.php/kevele_source/

Right beside it is the most mystical place in Latvia - Pekinski forest.
Stairway to heaven
Pochinski forest — the most famous of the most mysterious places on the map of Latvia. Endow it with supernatural strength, and even called the Latvian Stonehenge. Among fans Pacini is considered to be one of the few places on Earth where direct human contact with information and energies of the cosmos.
They say that over Pokaini the sun shines almost always — even if the district go long rains. Many believe that the stones emit heat and have a huge healing power. And it is here that supposedly opens the gates to a parallel world, and in the conventional man detected a new, hitherto not known to him ability.
Some believe Pacini sanctuary of pre-Christian priests, designed to control the weather and to keep the balance of the world. Other — the oldest computer "disks" which contains information intended for those in the future. But skeptics say that all these miracles and healing — is nothing more than a hoax, arranged by the locals to attract tourists.
Honestly, I was not able to find in Pokaini something supernatural. The place is beautiful, interesting — Yes. Here, even after a three-hour walking does not feel tired.
Going to Pokaini, is to listen to the advice of experts in this place. They, in fact, two. Nothing to take from the forest: some kind of stone can really cause unhappiness. And remember that this is a place to store the energy, especially negative. During the summer-autumn, when tourists are especially a lot forest "tired", and the best time to visit — winter and early spring.

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Post by Сергей12 » Sat Nov 06, 2010 15:30

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indeed, it will be very interesting, what's with the ORP

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Post by Cержио » Sat Nov 06, 2010 17:23

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What do you think about raw food?

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Post by Мирта » Sat Nov 06, 2010 21:11

I read messages here about ORP and remembered that 2 years ago already wrote about
Мирта wrote: Appliances installation EMERALD for treatment and conditioning of water, OAO “NPO EKRAN www.vbinstitute.ru and www.npoekran.ru
lowered to -300 ORP without changing the pH significantly. The level of technical implementation IMHO is somewhat above recent reports of the products ( there are all sorts of their own little cans with fixed electrodes again my dad remembered it doing when I went under the table on foot. Very interesting to know the opinion of the forum. Yes, here still - somewhere wrote about nitrate tester, using it for about a year, I can say that the fears about the inability to use the products after its use were not realized: the excess of MPC is rare, usually all in the normal range. ( Our apples for example 20-25 mg/kg, imported 40 mg/kg ( MPC 60 ). az
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Post by Дмитрий_999 » Sat Nov 06, 2010 21:45

Andrei Patrushev

Hello. And still advise in Your opinion is the "correct" filter

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Sat Nov 06, 2010 22:39

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Сергей Гурин wrote:Andrei Patrushev
What do you think about raw food?
I know it's bullshit, which puts the body in "Tamas"
no way to eat a carrot, digestion upset

how do you imagine hot food in raw food?

(I'll answer as a man mocks a vegetarianism)

very few people are genetically predisposed to such diets

IMHO

the main rational approach to this issue, not the templates...

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Post by Логик » Sat Nov 06, 2010 23:08

ЗОМБИ wrote:how do you represent hot food in raw food?
why you need a hot meal?
ЗОМБИ wrote:(I say to you as a person mocks a vegetarianism)
Vegitarianstvo the vegitarianstvo strife. There is, for example, pasta, is still anyone's health is not added.
ЗОМБИ wrote:very few people are genetically predisposed to such diets
A raw food diet is not a diet. And genetics is not being.

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Sat Nov 06, 2010 23:49

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Nunu... want even more lethargic life-welcome to raw foodists. And lechot, etc possible side effect... (from alkaline water, haha)... the body is fighting :)

hot dishes... I don't think that people shouldn't have invented them... they are easier to digest etc, etc. :wink:

take into account that not all people live in Uraine... and after frost in -30 will not eat raw cabbage with proclaim milk... :ay :ay :ay

(there's this guy, rinad Minvaleev... I almost completely agree with him about the correctness of traditional power for each location (of course if you are not an African cannibal :wink: )... with the amendments to "health" and "I feel like viceversa"... important not to eat belyashi with a glass of coke... but I, for one, will have not all of my diet)

more sad... now is not difficult to find hemichannel food from both the animal and vegetable origin
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Post by ЗОМБИ » Sat Nov 06, 2010 23:58

by the way, a Garbuzov offers courses to eat alkaline and acidic water... in order to rock the metabolic pendulum... I think it is the most correct pattern... with individual amendments, of course. Let BDN main :cry:

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Post by Логик » Sun Nov 07, 2010 0:17

ЗОМБИ wrote:Oh well... want even more lethargic life-welcome to raw foodists. And lechot, etc possible side effect... (from alkaline water, haha)... the body is fighting
I don't know what for you "sluggish life". The lightness in the body and absence of various ailments not a possible side effect and normalnoe functioning of the body. I have two years of eating raw food. Unlike terterov "proper nutrition".
ЗОМБИ wrote:hot meals... I don't think that people shouldn't have invented them... they are easier to digest etc, etc.
Nonsense. Hot food is much harder to digest. Tested on your own body.
ЗОМБИ wrote:after frost in -30 will not eat raw cabbage with proclaim milk...
Raw foodists with experience do not freeze. I can't in this case to say - we nebylo -30 the last two years. And to drink, only eaten cabbage, milk is not necessary. No rawfoodist or bludomain.
ЗОМБИ wrote:the main thing is not to eat belyashi with a glass of coke
Everyone chooses for himself what he is. No bondage. The only thing I do not judge about the fact that he did not try, but heard from hearsay. I have no trust in any authority. How much would they scientific ranks had thick books have been written. There must be something that grows in this locality. And cook food or not, everyone decides for himself.
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Post by Cержио » Sun Nov 07, 2010 0:38

ЗОМБИ wrote:(I say to you as a person mocks a vegetarianism)

very few people are genetically predisposed to such diets
It's not a diet, but a lifestyle... About genetics partially agree with you, but only in terms of the transition period. Someone microflora well, quickly and painlessly adapt to raw vegetable food, and someone can be a severe cleansing crisis. Everything in my opinion depends on neglect of the body. Yes, and the important role played by the psychological aspect, if a person forcibly LIMIT itself in meal, nothing good will come of it, but if you go on a raw food diet convinced, consciously, that in my opinion the period of adaptation to the new food should be very quiet...
Remember to stuff your brain with the correct information... Lot of videos on this topic, you can see for example here: http://www.rawlifestyle.ru/video

Vegetarianism-I have almost a year. For raw meat I always had an aversion, I can't imagine how people can touch. Recently I started to feel the STENCH of cooked meat. When my mother makes what-thread soups on meat broth to the kitchen not to go... Well, shakedown this unrealistic rubbish... now I can't imagine how you ever did have it. And by the way I never could have imagined that the meat can stink... :?

How to live and what to eat every man for himself decides for himself, because we are all individual and everyone has their own way of life... :wink:

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Sun Nov 07, 2010 0:43

OK 8)

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Post by Cержио » Sun Nov 07, 2010 0:55

Логик wrote:I have two years of eating raw food. Unlike terterov "proper nutrition".
Logik, how did you feel? What positive changes since the transition to the raw food diet?, if not a secret...

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Post by Логик » Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:20

Сергей Гурин wrote:Logic, and how do you feel?
State of health normal.
Сергей Гурин wrote: What positive changes since the transition to the raw food diet?, if not a secret...
The mood is always good. This was terrible depressed. Almost no longer tired. After a meal in sleep is not going. More free time (no need to cook). Disappeared all minor ailments. Forgot to think about people's sores like - "Oh the couple a headache," "if, after 40, in the morning you have nothing hurts, it means you're dead." In the morning nothing hurts. Alive, healthy, happy, and all what I want. az

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Post by Сергей12 » Sun Nov 07, 2010 5:20

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Воффка wrote:Andrei Patrushev
What is Your opinion about this? I have always Schmal that alkaline water is beneficial and activators of water runs up to alkaline pH values.
Alkaline water shifts the blood pH to the acid side (to maintain homeostasis), which can be useful for short-term admission for treatment of certain diseases... :?
then such a trivial idea - take water with a negative ORP, and add to it the lemon juice. pH decreases, ORP remains negative

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:48

Сергей12 wrote:then such a trivial idea - take water with a negative ORP, and add to it the lemon juice. pH decreases, ORP remains negative
similar idea... with a pH correction is no problem at all.

by the way, "Distillate" with ORP -300 and "Distillate + Marine.salt" from the ORP -300 -- it's not the same.
IMHO, it is better to distillate separately, sea salt separately...

as I understand it, we need to "split" water molecules... and in the hydrolysis of the salt water salt then, too, split, and sea salt's many components... you need it? this salt ORP :D

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:37

Метхуселах wrote:Andrei Patrushev

Hello. And still advise in Your opinion is the "correct" filter
"Emerald" - a perfect (proper) filter, but quickly litter :oops: and crashes (two filters for two years at that price - too much for me). :cry:
BSL, like too niche... :)

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Post by Дмитрий_999 » Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:43

Андрей Патрушев wrote:"Emerald" - a perfect (proper) filter,
Thank you

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:44

Сергей Гурин wrote:Andrei Patrushev
What do you think about raw food?
Nitsche not think. :?

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Post by Мила » Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:45

Сергей12 wrote:
Мила wrote: When you pour and measure from, then -400. Just what is it in 8 hours is not watched. Can check, out of curiosity. :)
Yes, it's fun
Well, I have tried the water ionizer's 9.5 ph water ionizer 7ph and original (plain tap) water.

Water 9.5 ph at the beginning of "-644 ORP"
Water 9.5 ph 9 hours later "-130 ORP"

Water is 7ph in the beginning "-200 ORP"
Water is 7ph 9 hours later "+18 ORP"

Tap water was "+360", and stayed.

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:51

Сергей12 wrote:then such a trivial idea - take water with a negative ORP, and add to it the lemon juice. pH decreases, ORP remains negative
In General, correct :) idea, but acidic water shifts the blood pH to the alkaline side (also very limited useful - for example for treatment of acute respiratory infections), so it's better to just somehow technically to make a neutral (or very slightly acidic) reaction was.

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Post by МерКаБа » Sun Nov 07, 2010 14:52

Мила wrote: Water 9.5 ph in the beginning "-644ORP"
Because you can if you want))))

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