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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Fri Oct 22, 2010 13:06

Moonshine in small doses - the drug (like cognac), in the big - deadly poison...

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Fri Oct 22, 2010 13:08

Dimas wrote:Mila
Hmm...so many complications in maintenance. The Japanese..could not optimize the process,so don't need to change to fill-send...?!
Well, there's nowhere to go - the water we have available. For example, I often had to throw away the bags as they are very quickly covered in a thick layer shnyaga...
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Post by Дмитрий_999 » Fri Oct 22, 2010 13:46

Dimas wrote:too little that is worthwhile, unfortunately, is on the market.
This is a real installation.

PS could Not resist..

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Post by Мила » Fri Oct 22, 2010 20:46

Dimas wrote:Mila
Hmm...so many complications in maintenance. The Japanese..could not optimize the process,so don't need to change to fill-send...?!
Dimas
The Japanese to optimize the process couldn't because the water is poor.
No, of course, on the market now lots of ionizers, which do not require any attention to themselves - plugged into the outlet, pressed a button and everything. :) That's when they "die" after six months, as a rule. Here we had comrade, spinning finger to his temple, looking at us. And he bought a car much cheaper. So what? Six months have passed, he sees that the taste has changed, and quality. ORP measure up to him, and there is a plus it all went. So.
Now saving up for a Japanese unit and a finger to his temple no longer turns. :)

Dimas wrote:Mila, what a pity that You not in Moscow, I would love to try that in the water, pure sport, too few of which present unfortunately exists in the market.
Moscow. I'm going to Moscow (and maybe even Project) for a workshop on the work to come. Winter/spring 2011. Can bring (and then I have something to drink in the way, unable to use more bottled - abomination) and drink all of you. :)

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Post by Dimas » Mon Oct 25, 2010 13:51

Mila
Yes,I would be very grateful and ORP meter don't forget to grab :oops: By the way, how much is it worth and where can it be purchased?

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Mon Oct 25, 2010 14:06

By the way, from the point of view of physiology, I would not advise to lean on "peasantry" :) water. Best neutral with ORP -300, -400mV... :?

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Mon Oct 25, 2010 16:43

Андрей Патрушев wrote:Moonshine in small doses - medicine
their children are giving this medication?

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Mon Oct 25, 2010 16:57

Шалтай Балтай wrote:
Андрей Патрушев wrote:Moonshine in small doses - medicine
their children are giving this medication?
To cardiovascular problems, they still Oh as is far... :?

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Post by Дмитрий_999 » Mon Oct 25, 2010 17:17

Dimas wrote:by the Way, how much is it worth and where can it be purchased?
http://www.patech.ru/index.php?categoryID=40

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Mon Oct 25, 2010 17:35

and ORP and pH are two different things?

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Post by Мила » Mon Oct 25, 2010 21:30

Dimas wrote:...and ORP meter, don't forget to capture. By the way, how much is it worth and where can it be purchased?
Will not forget of course. I'm still probiralsya. :)
I would take her for $125 these comrades. I was told they are more accurate.

Андрей Патрушев wrote:Incidentally, from the point of view of physiology, I would not advise to lean on "peasantry" :) water. Best neutral with ORP -300, -400mV.
I have this is. -200/-300, if strong, and -400, if a small trickle pour.

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Fri Oct 29, 2010 21:13

Andrei Patrushev
good health, Andrew!

I then said that from food aluminum can any "Kaka" to stand out in the electrolysis of water,...
and also, if the water comes from the tap, then every "Kaka" (such as salt cord.metals) in the water contained becomes active and thus the water becomes very "healing".

-what is your evidence-cocainum?:
0. true vysheoboznachennoy approval from your point of view?
1. for electrolysis it is necessary to take filtered water?
2. for filtration before electrolysis is better to take boiled water?
3. as I understand pH can be adjusted with soda or lim.acid with some variation in ORP?

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Fri Oct 29, 2010 22:44

ЗОМБИ wrote:Andrei Patrushev
good health, Andrew!

I then said that from food aluminum can any "Kaka" to stand out in the electrolysis of water,...
and also, if the water comes from the tap, then every "Kaka" (such as salt cord.metals) in the water contained becomes active and thus the water becomes very "healing".

-what is your evidence-cocainum?:
0. true vysheoboznachennoy approval from your point of view?
1. for electrolysis it is necessary to take filtered water?
2. for filtration before electrolysis is better to take boiled water?
3. as I understand pH can be adjusted with soda or lim.acid with some variation in ORP?
Hello.
Please read my article(see above) about it.

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Sat Oct 30, 2010 13:21

Andrei Patrushev
so, I slipped your article local guru in electronics and physics... they made such assumptions, given that aluminum can be a quality; and that the tap water is not ideal for electrolysis...
here :oops:
in principle, you can search any inert plates or rods for this

I'd like to know your opinion on the above points :oops: :oops: :oops:

and here's another thought... in the advertising film about Microhydrin aunt was measured ORP in a glass of water where before it poured the contents of one capsule and mix... ORP of the source water was +410... was 10 minutes -170... my aunt said that depending on source water ORP can drop to -650...
the aunt says that Microhydrin (read: negatively charged hydrogen) binds poisons such as aluminum(!) and excretes...

today or tomorrow the film will spread... as advertising elektroliza 8)

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Sat Oct 30, 2010 22:38

ЗОМБИ wrote:so, I your article slipped the local guru in electronics and physics... they made such assumptions, given that aluminum can be a quality; and that the tap water is not ideal for electrolysis...
here
So I about it also write in the article and propose a solution. :?

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Post by Экко » Sun Oct 31, 2010 8:19

it seems to me in the water and so many metals contains no one died, there is nothing to fear if suddenly from the electrode something besides silver will go :)

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:54

taks... the fact that "it depends"... and it is possible by electrolysis to provoke some chemical.reaction with a very desirable resulting substances...

the distillate is a dielectric...
is it possible in this way the distillate is "activate"? more naprugu to submit?

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Post by Экко » Sun Oct 31, 2010 12:07

the distillate is an insulator...
nope. the distillate for the manufacture of semiconductors is dirty water, so it still contains impurities.

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Sun Oct 31, 2010 22:56

ECCO
this is
ЗОМБИ wrote:electrolysis can trigger some chemical.reaction with a very desirable resulting substances...
at least you agree?
we have in Novosibirsk, the water is not very gut... so I sad :cry:

ECCO
pure teoreticheski -- ideal pure water = the dielectric... right?
as (again theoretically) perfectly clean water to be divided into "live" and "dead"?

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Post by Сергей12 » Wed Nov 03, 2010 6:08

bought BSL-med
ORP meter I have(98201 ORP by Hanna)
the water after filter plus softener plus obezzhelezivaniya UV plus lamp plus coal and finally the Atoll(5-speed with reverse osmosis) with ORP +150 makes water -300
So many filters is due to the inconsistency of standards for hardness and iron standard tap water.
after boiling again shows +150
nasypany Microhydrin in the water after the filter - 180
all the water in the bottles such as glacial melt and blablabla - from +90 to +250
children's water - not the exception - in the area +150 - +200
It is clear, why not suggest to boil water - negative ORP moves to the positive, it only touches the water with the ORP, in other cases, it does not matter, as the positive ORP the same and remains :oops:

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Post by Сергей12 » Wed Nov 03, 2010 6:13

Add - water taste - in my opinion, strange, not very much. As for the sludge in the reactor, it is actually missing talking about the good work of all my water purification system :)

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Wed Nov 03, 2010 13:51

Сергей12
and what kind of filters do you use? or the system's own Assembly?

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I usually blunt, HY :) znachitstsa recommend BSL-med?

th there for maintenance, replacement of cartridges and the term of operation stated in the instructions to the filter? eh

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Wed Nov 03, 2010 18:16

ЗОМБИ wrote:out of the water after the filter plus softener plus obezzhelezivaniya UV plus lamp plus coal and finally the Atoll(5-speed with reverse osmosis) with ORP +150 makes water -300
and here can a filter brand of paint? or do you default the pre-filters cost? UV lamp? :)

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