Reprogramming of the device. New firmware version

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Re: New update program IN the "Navigator"

Post by Алексей Крячко__ » Wed Jun 01, 2016 19:54

Друид wrote:Win8.1 64bit Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4510U CPU @ 2.00 GHz
What religion does not allow the developer to write the instructions on how to use the software, which releases the manufacturer of the chip, the Atmel firmware for their chips? (On the website atmel.com there's the official program for flashing and driver it description. There release dates back from March 2016. Here is the link to the page: http://www.atmel.com/tools/atmelsam-bai ... ammer.aspx or you can download here http://www.as-kit.ru/software/SAM/ and sewn, without all the problems associated with finding and using such deceased dinosaur like winxp.) After all, to write the user manual is very simple.
there are two pitfalls.
1 the program is "SAM-BA" it is difficult to handle and most users will not understand and detailed user manual with screenshots it is not correct, but rather scare to use it. You for example, everything is clear and without the instruction - understood, for many it is difficult or simply not necessary.
What was a simple signature is SAM-PROG, which is now not supported, due to the fact that the driver run by the processor implement on systems higher than Win XP is impossible. Here under this brand the software and were once manual and. There's just the probability of making any incorrect actions small.
2
SAM-BA uses a sort of virtual COM port. And built-in CPU loader is very unstable running under different configurations. It vary in different batches, and much changed in the revision "B" processors that are put in all new appliances now. The programmers have stopped working everything, including brand that was available as of December 2015 - January 2016. The result is an urgent need to alter. Yes, with the proviso that it was possible to sew all the previous processors - with this in some previous versions of SAM-BA was the problem. In this version I have not tested it.
Therefore, create its own programming tool, which reads the audit, batch, and date of the CPU and runs the appropriate algorithm, to avoid headaches with users.
Yes, there are two things of drawbacks :
1. inefficiency with saintelucie chipsets. As detail the Protocol is not documented anywhere and what happens in such cases, it is impossible to understand even with the help of different analyzers - the problem remains.
2. the signature requirement. alas, the problem remains. Because to sign the. inf standard driver is somehow weird and it is impossible even if desired. Solved by disabling verify digital signature drivers. Much ways how to do it a lot. As an option can issue a separate instruction.

In General, the software for programming works. In case of serious problems and the inability to do another configuration may be used in a proprietary tool.<

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Re: Reprogramming of the device. New firmware version

Post by Алексей Крячко__ » Wed Jun 01, 2016 19:59

Саир wrote: Patrushev on the forum advises to upgrade to 2.0, but according to the developers, v.2.0 (or 2.1) is not at all "Navigators" will go as it depends on the hardware.
new version 2.0 works on ALL the previously released devices.
version 2.1 is only new and is not available for download. These new will work on all previous versions, including 2.0, 1.20.

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Re: Reprogramming of the device. New firmware version

Post by Алексей Крячко__ » Wed Jun 01, 2016 20:05

interestingly I read the topic. In General, we will think through how to make a list of all versions of the firmware with a description of what is in which version was added. Accept all objective criticism.

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Re: Reprogramming of the device. New firmware version

Post by Саир » Thu Jun 02, 2016 13:58

Алексей Крячко__ wrote:
Саир wrote: Patrushev on the forum advises to upgrade to 2.0, but according to the developers, v.2.0 (or 2.1) is not at all "Navigators" will go as it depends on the hardware.
new version 2.0 works on ALL the previously released devices.
It turns out that not all :?
I raspisandl detailthat the firmware 2.0* "Navigator" I have become "hang" (or whatever it's called - I do not know):
key worked one time out of 20 taps.
Somehow went back to firmware 1.2

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Re: Reprogramming of the device. New firmware version

Post by Нарекаци » Tue Aug 09, 2016 1:24

Thanks - updated, works

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Re: Reprogramming of the device. New firmware version

Post by всенн » Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:21

after reading the above from Saira, the question arose, not whether I have a problem when trying to change the firmware to version 2.0 . now is version 1.14, which I bought (about 3 years ago, probably). room Navigator 00199.

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Re: Reprogramming of the device. New firmware version

Post by Саир » Tue Aug 23, 2016 13:07

"Practice is criterion of truth" (C) Lenin
:)
I still normally able to return to the "native" firmware 1.4 after the problems with 2.0*.
Judging from the 2.0 functionality it's worth a try.
I, for one, strongly attracted to smooth transitions between segments in the session. They wanted to go.

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Re: New update program IN the "Navigator"

Post by ДмитрийК » Wed Dec 07, 2016 22:00

I did not understand what the latest firmware version?
2.1 is the version of the programmer or the firmware, I flashed this version 2.1. your Navigator, bought in 2013, and I when you turn on lights version 1.20

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Re: New update program IN the "Navigator"

Post by Владимир ЛВВ » Sun Jan 01, 2017 3:45

The new program for updating the "Navigator"
It is difficult to find a new working software (firmware) that I downloaded may not work properly. Make life easier, where only admins can do about recording a new working firmware, and when you are testing firmware, and write firmware test 2. .... I couldn't understood what do I need to download that can work properly.

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Re: New update program IN the "Navigator"

Post by Алексей Крячко__ » Sun Feb 05, 2017 1:16

Vladimir, put all programs here are tested and working correctly. Just the differences in the versions affect the program's functionality : something has not happened in previous versions.

So, to summarize what I have at the moment :

The latest version of firmware 2.00
https://yadi.sk/d/I4urQYFRqRpCp

Manual to the latest firmware versions (2.00 and 2.01) :
https://yadi.sk/i/cmMskfT1qV4Cm

Software for your computer to load the firmware in the instrument (version 2.1)
https://yadi.sk/d/XhnbI8H1mndVB


About firmware 2.01 fixes : this firmware is programmed only in newly manufactured appliances, as it requires modifications of the hardware. Accordingly, in the previously released devices it makes no sense to write, so downloading it does not spread.
Difference 2.01 from 2.00 only possible to change the spectrum of the noise. Everything else is identical to version 2.00.

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Re: New update program IN the "Navigator"

Post by Алексей Крячко__ » Sun Feb 05, 2017 1:30

Dmitrik
Firmware 1.20 is quite functional, it was created in 2014.
To change firmware you need
1. download version 2.00 and unzip.
2. download the current program for updating the firmware (version 2.1)
3. to put a file embed_navigator_v200.bin there, where is the exe program file for flashing
4. edit the file f_write.txt : instead of embed_navigator_v120.bin it is necessary to write embed_navigator_v200.bin
5. start navprog2n1.exe after set the device in programming mode and connect it to the USB, then turn on (on the device should be a blank screen, the backlight is lit and the orange led illuminated).

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Re: New update program IN the "Navigator"

Post by Андрей Патрушев » Sun Feb 05, 2017 12:36

Алексей Крячко__ wrote:about the 2.01 firmware : this firmware is programmed only in newly manufactured appliances, as it requires modifications of the hardware. Accordingly, in the previously released devices it makes no sense to write, so downloading it does not spread.
How the user can distinguish "new" from the device, or "old"???
I reprogrammed their children, two cars (bought about two years ago) is fine. But the other, on my advice, decided to pereproshit to 2.0. As a result, he not only failed to do so, but also stopped working the up arrow, down arrow, so that he and the old firmware can not return. And how now to be???

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Re: New update program IN the "Navigator"

Post by ДмитрийК » Sun Feb 19, 2017 14:18

Алексей Крячко__ wrote:Dmitrik
Firmware 1.20 is quite functional, it was created in 2014.
To change firmware you need
1. download version 2.00 and unzip.
2. download the current program for updating the firmware (version 2.1)
3. to put a file embed_navigator_v200.bin there, where is the exe program file for flashing
4. edit the file f_write.txt : instead of embed_navigator_v120.bin it is necessary to write embed_navigator_v200.bin
5. start navprog2n1.exe after set the device in programming mode and connect it to the USB, then turn on (on the device should be a blank screen, the backlight is lit and the orange led illuminated).

Thanks, managed to flash to the new version.

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Re: New update program IN the "Navigator"

Post by Светочек » Sun Feb 26, 2017 23:25

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Thanks for the 2.0 update!

First reflash, I have Win7

All went well! :D

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Re: Reprogramming of the device. New firmware version

Post by Алексей Крячко__ » Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:27

Саир wrote:"Practice is criterion of truth" (C) Lenin
:)
I still normally able to return to the "native" firmware 1.4 after the problems with 2.0*.
Judging from the 2.0 functionality it's worth a try.
I, for one, strongly attracted to smooth transitions between segments in the session. They wanted to go.
In the current firmware 2.0 this year, along with other changes will modify and the part that the keyboard is responsible, in order to avoid such moments. If after flashing the keyboard suddenly stops working, the device can be returned to the programming mode hardware way (short of venues signed "ERASE" inside the battery compartment, if you remove the battery and turn the device off).

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Re: New update program IN the "Navigator"

Post by Дмитрий А. » Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:09

Алексей Крячко__ wrote:...
About firmware 2.01 fixes : this firmware is programmed only in newly manufactured appliances, as it requires modifications of the hardware. Accordingly, in the previously released devices it makes no sense to write, so downloading it does not spread.
Please share this firmware. Navigator 2016.

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Re: New update program IN the "Navigator"

Post by Андрей Патрушев » Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:24

And the eye to raise? :wink:

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Re: New update program IN the "Navigator"

Post by Дмитрий А. » Fri Jan 19, 2018 13:12

Андрей Патрушев wrote:And the eye to raise? :wink:
Where to raise? The whole subject was reviewed, there is no firmware version 2.01, only 2.00. And it is clear why not:
Алексей Крячко__ wrote:2.01 : this firmware is programmed only in newly manufactured appliances, as it requires modifications of the hardware. Accordingly, in the previously released devices it makes no sense to write, so downloading it does not spread.
So please give me a link to firmware version 2.01. You can PM.

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Re: New update program IN the "Navigator"

Post by Андрей Патрушев » Fri Jan 19, 2018 14:13

Dmitry A.
Really not. :oops: But it was...
I have - I hope that working: https://cloud.mail.ru/public/M87R/ucTwkbvdR

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Re: New update program IN the "Navigator"

Post by Дмитрий А. » Fri Jan 19, 2018 17:27

Andrei Patrushevthank you!

Ask, adjusting background noise appeared, 4 positions.

The only thing this firmware version 2.01 you gave, a little different from what I initially stood. For example when starting was this Intro:

Navigator
ver 2.01*

And now the screensaver without asterisk. Now I do not remember my choice of noise was greater. Or maybe I think so, I've been in the settings does not climb.

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Re: New update program IN the "Navigator"

Post by Алексей Крячко__ » Tue Feb 06, 2018 21:30

the working firmware is the one with the star, if you just 2.01 it is the very first version, it has bugs.
If anyone needs a working firmware Ver.2.01*, then I can send it directly to the address the man.

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Re: Reprogramming of the device. New firmware version

Post by ВладимирН » Mon May 21, 2018 23:14

Bought the Navigator 2. Happy used as and recommended for relaxation sessions.
But today points 10 minutes before the end of the session (colored) has stopped working. The session finished without them. Poproboval test signal too dull. Off on nothing. After a Long time off on points earned. After this no more to write here - I saw that there is a firmware update. Excellent - have a reason surrounded. But when updating it gives this error:

*** NAVIGATOR-2 PROGRAMMING *** ( V3.0 )

1. Input file
New program : navig2_v310.bin
Code = E234A1D0 +

2. Search Device ...
.4.

3. Test Device ... OK
Chip ver :
v2.0 Apr 30 2008 17:29:17
Test version error N 4

I.e. the program sees Navigator 2 via USB. But something she doesn't like. Question - what to do ? The sellers were amazed, got the screenshot and from the words "passed on" but I did not understand much further. The screenshot was not here to send - copy/paste worked perfectly out of the screen, on the command line and so.

Now I can not even old firmware are in the FAQ don't have it back in the old download. It is now the most pressing issue and urgent.

Thank you

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Re: Reprogramming of the device. New firmware version

Post by Алексей Крячко__ » Tue May 22, 2018 11:01

Vladimir, I answered you by e-mail. The situation can be corrected. Of course, if the device is already transferred to the programming mode, the "roll back" will not work. You need to flash a new version.

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Re: Reprogramming of the device. New firmware version

Post by ВладимирН » Tue May 22, 2018 15:33

Алексей Крячко__ wrote:Vladimir, I answered you by e-mail. The situation can be corrected. Of course, if the device is already transferred to the programming mode, the "roll back" will not work. You need to flash a new version.
Alex - searched through the Inbox - I don't see Your answer, sorry ! Not in SPAM, nowhere to be found !
At least in the personal message of the forum prokopiya please !
THANK you!

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Re: Reprogramming of the device. New firmware version

Post by Алексей Крячко__ » Tue May 22, 2018 18:07

The letter was locked, answered you via private messages.

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