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Re: Navigator. Experience.

Post by Димас » Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:46

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I have it very simple (for the OS), even ashamed to write somehow :oops: "I sleep, this is a dream, Dima, remember that this is a dream" (silent-way voice, name, whisper, a strong accent on the first syllable), all naborot in the audio editor you can loop a desired number of times for the chosen session. Listen to naturally in the evening before going to sleep (as with any suggestion), since the brain is already in "convenient" for this condition and disables the mind "filters" the critical processing of information coming from the outside.
for the overall development on this topic you can read it here, starting from the fourth paragraph:
http://psyfactor.org/lib/zln13.htm

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Re: Navigator. Experience.

Post by Сканер » Wed Jan 11, 2012 18:04

Димас wrote: a Couple of times, however, had to wave his hands (it helps me stay in the OCA), but all succumbed to the control. :lol:
Today attain lucidity in the dream. I remembered this advice. Helped))))) immediately became brighter. And began to levitate. Class)))

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Re: Navigator. Experience.

Post by Сканер » Tue Jan 17, 2012 21:09

ATP Navigator came!!!!!!!!!!)))))))) Thank you for the gifts 6 CDs class!!!!)))))

Well, just "stupid" where to start? Some sort of manual on the shelves for novice users!!! On the forum hacking, and that nothing flies????????

Send me to hell ways joenniemi, but you can not hostname, but the main thing that be ))

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Re: Navigator. Experience.

Post by Димас » Tue Jan 17, 2012 22:41

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Start with the alpha sessions. It all programs the letter R. the First 21 days won't climb :) Best mode 2-3 times daily for 15-20 minutes. The challenge now is to generate sustainable alpha, the lesion in the brain. Further 21-day beta session (Endorphins and session on energy), then theta...but this is still far away. Program Healing and the Conductor is also in the alpha range. Endorphins in beta, Journey through inner worlds - theta. These discs audiostrobe, so the classes with them are equal to the classes with the sessions.
P. S. Hair carefully, all this is not just to speak-spoke :)

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Re: Navigator. Experience.

Post by Сканер » Tue Jan 17, 2012 23:22

Димас wrote:Scanner
Start with the alpha sessions. It all programs the letter R. the First 21 days won't climb :) Best mode 2-3 times daily for 15-20 minutes. The challenge now is to generate sustainable alpha, the lesion in the brain. Further 21-day beta session (Endorphins and session on energy), then theta...but this is still far away. Program Healing and the Conductor is also in the alpha range. Endorphins in beta, Journey through inner worlds - theta. These discs audiostrobe, so the classes with them are equal to the classes with the sessions.
P. S. Hair carefully, all this is not just to speak-spoke :)
The SPS and the question immediately, and with a guide you can combine alpha seciii, or healing?

Dig on the forums just not girth all the information)))

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Wed Jan 18, 2012 0:01

Сканер wrote:ATP and immediately the question, and with a guide you can combine alpha seciii, or healing?
They themselves are the alpha sessions. If they run out of audiostrobe, then points will work as it should.

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Wed Jan 18, 2012 0:05

Сканер wrote:digging On the forums just not girth all the information)))
Yes, it is... :) 6 years of continuous writing... :?
take a look here and here

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Post by Димас » Wed Jan 25, 2012 21:16

One of the most valuable acquisitions from internal work with the Navigator is the ability to concentrate at any time on any object/action/inaction. And concentration is the key to yourself and abilities.

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Re: Navigator. Experience.

Post by Димас » Sun Jan 29, 2012 14:26

Well begun... Again started "seeing" with closed eyes through glasses relaxing programs. Lay and see the whole room with a reddish aura, objects "floating" like a Mirage. Purposefully it is able to cause fails only occasionally and not always. Someone has learned in their desire to manage this? On sleep seem to hear what's going on in the apartment, but the body does not feel.

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Post by к-13 » Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:18

Димас wrote:Again began "seeing" with closed eyes through glasses relaxing programs. Lay and see the whole room with a reddish aura, objects "floating" like a Mirage. Purposefully it is able to cause fails only occasionally and not always. Someone has learned in their desire to manage this? On sleep seem to hear what's going on in the apartment, but the body does not feel.
I have this too quite often. For example, I am sure that this is the lower range of alpha is so evident, but the confidence that is not backed by anything, so just IMHO))) Why the confidence? The first few times these feelings pop up in sessions at the alpha training Andrey Vadimovich, when I started working with Innerpulse three years ago...

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Post by Димас » Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:39

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And you have not obtained this state want to play? And without a mind machine?:)

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Post by к-13 » Mon Jan 30, 2012 13:33

With such clarity there. If with your eyes closed to activate the anchor on the alpha, it is possible a semblance to achieve this(without the red aura, it seems, from points of light Shine through the eyelids). By the way, if in this moment to open my eyes, the picture in the corners with the real room does not always coincide...

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Post by Димас » Mon Jan 30, 2012 15:12

к-13 wrote:by the Way, if in this moment to open my eyes, the picture in the corners with the real room does not always coincide...
I wonder what did we actually see?! :wiz Previously I thought it was a dream or dream-like state, convinced that neither one nor the other. What is it? :roll: :?

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Re: Navigator. Experience.

Post by к-13 » Mon Jan 30, 2012 21:08

Димас wrote:What is it? :roll: :?
What about the option "alpha rendering"? At school, Jose Silva, for example, is often described very realistic... they need to set a theme for the appearance of images and to guide them in the right direction, but there are themes like as not, and it is possible that the brain from boredom builds the last thing seen to an alpha state, only with some additions... anyway, with the real "vision, not the eyes" it's nothing - you can hand in front of your face to drive and "catch sharpness" on the picture to achieve a very good quality and then try to walk on this picture(not opening his eyes is quite real, by the way, if you do not make any sudden movements, better with the blindfold, and then I sometimes have my eyes slightly open) and cut a corner somewhere :?

By the way, not only pictures you can call ringtones also quite realistic sound, a smell you can "modulate"...

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Re: Navigator. Experience.

Post by Димас » Mon Jan 30, 2012 21:52

к-13 wrote: can hand in front of face led
Understand fact of the matter is, when these visions first started to appear, I took hand in front of your eyes (even on this forum wrote about this in the thread for mind machines), and saw your hand in the red-orange light, and this image is correlated with the trajectory of the hands. So I think that either this is the real picture, or the brain very cleverly plays with me (no less than amazing, so this game he needs something).
к-13 wrote:melody is also quite realistic sound
Yes, I in the childhood had noticed in a certain period of time before falling asleep began to sound me managed classic music. Now the music too often sounds on the alpha relaxation, and is perfectly woven into beats and pink noise coming from the headphones. Smells noticed.

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Re: Navigator. Experience.

Post by к-13 » Mon Jan 30, 2012 22:20

Димас wrote:See, the fact of the matter is, when these visions first started to appear, I took hand in front of your eyes (even on this forum wrote about this in the thread for mind machines), and saw his hand in the red-orange light, and this image is correlated with the trajectory of the hands. So I think that either this is the real picture, or the brain very cleverly plays with me (no less than amazing, so this game he needs something).
I'm from MM only Navigator in this forum watching :oops: Books were written after the seminar, Tonkov at the biosensory psychology - the fact of the matter is that her movement the brain sends stunningly clear(although, what's so surprising - he's it, and controls - no external sources of information for constructing images is not needed), moving the hand in front of your eyes, you can rock the clarity of the submitted pictures to pretty decent, but the reliability of the rest of the environment is not affected(at least in my experience).

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Re: Navigator. Experience.

Post by Димас » Mon Jan 30, 2012 23:32

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You know what else I noticed, when he moved to the theta program in the Navigator, began to appear such a thing as otlipanie "legs" of the physical legs. It looks like the output of "astral body", just before the half. I suspect that fixing the touch on the glasses and headphones does not completely "come off" from the carcass during the program. I've developed a self-made upgrade points, to remove a factor of glasses+dushku on her face. The wife is in the mood, ask her to remove the clip and post a video here, can someone come in handy :?

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Post by к-13 » Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:52

Димас wrote:K-13
You know what else I noticed, when he moved to the theta program in the Navigator, began to appear such a thing as otlipanie "legs" of the physical legs. It looks like the output of "astral body", just before the half. I suspect that fixing the touch on the glasses and headphones does not completely "come off" from the carcass during the program.
Also noticed... And explaining the same to myself gave)))
Димас wrote:I've developed a self-made upgrade points, to remove a factor of glasses+dushku on her face.
I Innerpulse these things - on headphone flexible cord some of the diodes were taken out, so nothing else is touching the person - only ear cushions. On those it was just a crank... With these I can't bring myself to experiment)))

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Re: Navigator. Experience.

Post by Димас » Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:02

к-13 wrote:On those it was just a crank... With these I can't bring myself to experiment)))
Yes, here is also easy, hands reach to put the video, and nothing to break is not necessary! :wink:

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Post by Сканер » Tue Jan 31, 2012 23:42

Long interested in this question about such a vision can tell.
The girl was walking through yards in the summer, I told her about the perception that it is different from the vision in the brain transmits, showed examples, the condition was cool izmenenie. Next to leave the yard. Nine-look like a soap bubble shimmers, well guess what damn it she can not say such bullshit in front of the eyes occurs. I stand, silent, processing. Then she starts to tell me about what I see, she even hints were not given, immediately relieved..... Would one in principle, the values would not have, but collectively the real bug is interesting.

maybe it was someone similar to share them.

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Post by Сканер » Thu Feb 02, 2012 23:58

Almost listened to the alpha weekend zakanchivayu, tell me how to listen beta, alpha listened to 2 times a day + disk Explorer, and with the beta it seems so impossible.

The instrument Navigator is very happy, feel a great deal of hidden potential in it, but honestly don't know how to implement them, the effect of listening to alpha pronounced. As a born again))))) otpravilas Vision (was blurry before))) the Desire to live there, and there(from work to home, from home to work), cheerfully get up in the morning, the drowsiness is gone. The desire to move appeared as a child skipping (well, when no one sees). Became possible dashes to move (before running not loved). The brain works clearer, cleaner or something.....as the veil dropped....Cool what will happen next)))) everyone is waiting for the transition to theta, I think there will be a little brighter........in terms izmenenij States

Do not regret about spent money. Really would be better if each family had such than closet in the form of TV connected to cable......

Sounds like an expression of gratitude, a feeling that will kozyrnesh and say, "that's all right, It's our job" ))))))))) but still thank you.......... I also have someone to help you using MM NAVIGATOR.

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Re: Navigator. Experience.

Post by Димас » Fri Feb 03, 2012 0:33

Сканер wrote:I am listening to the beta
10-20 minutes daily is enough. In any case, experiment with the time, the main thing to avoid after working with the beta program of anxiety and restlessness (hyperactivity), as the impact of these programs is quite strong, the same applies to the built-in Navigator records A. Patrushev "Endorphins" - 10-15 minutes. The same 21 days.
Сканер wrote:I have the feeling that will kozyrnesh and say, "that's all right, It's our job" )))))))))
No, it's our hobby :wink:
Сканер wrote:everyone is waiting for the transition to theta, I think there will be a little brighter........in terms izmenenij States
Yeah... whether there will be :)
Сканер wrote:maybe it was someone similar to share them.
wife dreams about what I thought before his falling asleep.

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Post by СтАвР » Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:19

dear Logik can after semi annual usage, the appearance of all the firmware, to share vpechatleniyami
considering the fact that you were not happy :wink:

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Post by Логик » Sun Feb 05, 2012 14:25

СтАвР wrote:dear Logician can after semi annual usage, the appearance of all the firmware, to share vpechatleniyami
About all impressions of the Navigator I wrote.
Six months of possession does not mean six months of use. The last 2 months, the car has not been touched. No desire to listen to the session. Yes, and the body reacts weird to want to rip the headphones and all off. I have about the same reaction was on the InnerPulse. Maybe it's my particular. All, for example, praise a disk Explorer, and I can not listen to. All the time haunted by the idea - "Yes, when will it end". Body bored just lying in 50 minutes, and the trance state I does not occur.
I probably will return to using the Navigator, but certainly not now.

I'm not that were unhappy (can't complain for that kind of money! :)) simply wanted a more rapid correction of defects. I don't like when the obvious shortcomings I answer - this is fine, this can be harsh. And the disadvantages I find quickly, even in places where others don't see :) . Yet we must remember that the Navigator was released in its raw form, when much of the firmware was supposed to be done. Hence criticism. But even with all the complaints made to the use of InnerPulse is Navigator to come back do not want.

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Post by СтАвР » Sun Feb 05, 2012 14:55

Logik thanks for the reply az

and in contrast to points Navigator ColorTrack?
navigators and cheaper as I understand it, and it is possible for the Navigator to connect ColorTrack
where you can read about, alpha, beta, theta and Delta-theta meditation and their differences?

and alpha is
-Healing on the Magic river
Explorer
Massage of the brain
-Star traveler
-Solar wind
Music for hypnosis and self-hypnosis
beta
-Endorphins
theta
-Journey through the inner worlds
-Set "Theta meditation"
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