The development of the mind of the machine Navigator.

[Андрей Кабанков]

Is a simple task for people far from the real business about "pricing policy" of a conventional small-scale producers.
For example did ECCO the device,it cost him, say, 3,000 rubles,decided to sell it at a price of 4500 rubles., has carried him to the stores and was surprised to find that greedy merchants do not want to sell its a wonderful device with efficiency below 40%,had to fix the price to 7500 RUB.
Priborchik was good,started to fly,it turned out that EKKO himself has no time to collect the required number of instruments and he had to hire a VA with a salary of 50 thousand per month,which was to collect instruments for him,and the office is decided on to shoot this thing with the seller-consultant,which cost him 70 thousand per month.
Things went well for a couple of months, sold hundreds of instruments.
As ECCO zaregistrirovalsa in the form of an Individual Entrepreneur,with all his revenue he had to pay a tax of 6% ,which is 27 thousand rubles.
About the cost of the parts was stranded 100х4500=450 000 RUB Neplohie money!
The question is how much is earned personally EKKO for 2 months work?
That should answer EKKO those who believe that the correct retail price for its device should be 4000 rubles and 3000 rubles. better?

[Энди]

I understand now undergoing final testing. Maybe even what the realties results will make us happy?
Well, for example - as a result of application MM user A. increased the ability to memorize foreign words 5 times.

[Андрей Кабанков]

Now comes the debugging of software for writing sessions and on-line operation Navigator with a computer,adding to the internal software of the new feature "Swinging" frequency and creating sessions Andrei Patrushev.
And the results for the memorizing words we expect from test group

[Экко]

well, maybe. I'm not an economist. apparently there is still decides the number of copies.

[Андрей Кабанков]

well, maybe. I'm not an economist. apparently there is still decides the number of copies.

Of course,it is a determining factor.
With a circulation of thousands of pieces is one,with a circulation of millions is quite another.

[Маг.нет]

And besides profitability, there is a question of competitiveness, the choice of which machine to purchase is left, the early model is not removed from sale. And here already the Buyer chooses at what price and quality categories to make a purchase.


Sincerely, MAG.no

[Андрей Кабанков]

the Question is how much is earned personally EKKO for 2 months work?

For those who are too lazy to count,the answer project provided in the example of the unprofitable ,loss in 2 months will amount to 117,000 was RUB.

This is determined by dorogivizna products small-scale producers,including Photosonics on which hangs production in the United States with paying employees $ 15. hour.

[Логик]

This is determined by dorogivizna products small-scale producers,including Photosonics on which hangs production in the United States with paying employees $ 15. hour.

Without disputing the issue of pricing, I just want to ask, what Chinese electronics to stamp on the order is stopped, including small batches?

[Экко]

This is determined by dorogivizna products small-scale producers,including Photosonics on which hangs production in the United States with paying employees $ 15. hour.

Without disputing the issue of pricing, I just want to ask, what Chinese electronics to stamp on the order is stopped, including small batches?

exactly. for the company I work for, the Chinese do hardware (digital TV tuner) configured by us, the party is not very large, but the price is not too large, 3 thousand.

[Андрей Кабанков]

Photosonix not transferring production to China,considering that the local product more interesting for the American consumer.
Trade Navigator is carried out in Russia,with the exception of the motherboards are made in Korea and assembled in Russia.
Chinese quality is not always at height,at least with the partners I worked with our engineer informed.
Now in Russia there are enterprises with modern equipment,allowing to make high-quality Assembly on automatic lines.

[Экко]

understood, however I have heard a lot about the poor quality of Russian manufacturers, and "China" is different, there is quality stuff. By the way, curve the consumer goods they're taking us to Russia, do not even use

[Экко]

and yet, in Photosonice there are experts in Biophysics, doctors, psychologists, anything like that? after all, blind iron is one thing, but here's the most important thing is the issue of working with the brain.

[Андрей Кабанков]

Session from photosonics are long-term tested in one of medical universities in Los Angeles.

[Маг.нет]

"China" is different, there is quality stuff. By the way, curve the consumer goods they're taking us to Russia, do not even use

...and prices are different for a quality item and priced accordingly for "curve" the copy could certainly be lower, even in the order, but the things themselves when the external similarity is not the same. Faced that the "miser pays twice" is very relevant in this context, the saying cheap often shows the experience of use in addition to ecological hazard and consumer of inferiority and inappropriateness in comparison to the more expensive, but quality thing.
Better to pay once and to use it. My MM is good, for all time of operation showed no complaints, happy. Now I will learn a new model, there is nothing to compare.


Sincerely, MAG.no

[Андрей Кабанков]

In my office there is a mind machine of Chinese development and production. One of the entrepreneurs brought to Russia 1000 pieces. In the end, to sell it they could not and offered to buy them for me,not expensive at 500 rubles apiece.Retail price was 6 or 7 thousand
I've been tempted to buy the game and sell them for 2-3 thousand , but on reflection I decided not to compromise the audio-visual stimulation that product.
Not everything that beeps and blinks , can be called a mind machine.

[Логик]

in my office there is a mind machine of Chinese development and production. One of the entrepreneurs brought to Russia 1000 pieces. In the end, to sell it they could not and offered to buy them for me,not expensive at 500 rubles apiece.Retail price was 6 or 7 thousand

I've been tempted to buy the game and sell them for 2-3 thousand , but on reflection I decided not to compromise the audio-visual stimulation that product.

Not everything that beeps and blinks , can be called a mind machine.

And the function of "karaoke" was there?
In order to sell, maybe I should just change the profile of use of the instrument?:)

[Маг.нет]

And the function of "karaoke" was there?

Sincerely, MAG.no

[Андрей Кабанков]

There is a binaural beat of several types which can be imposed on the choice of the sound of the sea birds or a babbling brook.
That's basically all functions.
All this is enabled by a highly complex manner,and the display is off almost immediately.

[Маг.нет]

...the display is off, it's more of "small evils", but if the frequency of the "float" that such wood can be mangled, will not find it, because spare no brains, not even on sale


Sincerely, MAG.no

[Л@на]

Probably not the place, but we are talking about the Chinese, watch the movie "Blue China". On the work with Chinese factories. Tough, poor people.

[Маг.нет]

Maybe that's why Americans pay their$ 15 per hour and do not entrust to the Chinese or Malaysians (1$/hour). When "manual" Assembly (especially soldering) to the product are also recorded albeit sometimes low (problemot depends on several factors) "information fingerprint" of a work (and author) and "space" (production facilities, capacity), and if there is dissatisfaction, and worse dissatisfaction with their lot? Which of course often possible to exclude handing over the task to the automation, but the implementation may not always be cost-effective for small volumes of production. The Japanese quite realized this point and are willing to pay more as their workers, and ultimately for the product and prefer their own production, even if it is more expensive, sometimes significantly. The Chinese also know how to make a good product, but only for themselves and the price is adequate and uses American workers highly paid and socially protected. China is big, a lot of Chinese people and therefore making a quality (not one-sided) cross-section can be used to detect different polarity.


Sincerely, MAG.no
PS Yes, another interesting detail, from the words of my good friend, long time living in America and working at one of the Ford plants and domestic product are "flaws", the most successful Americans will never buy a car with a production date of the subsequent massive spread of "negative information" in the media (disasters, economic crises, the war, large casualties, etc.). Managers aware of this fact, redirect the products of such "production dates" in the "export zone" by default. I wonder why???

[Маг.нет]

the Day of inventor and rationalizer is celebrated in Russia on the last Saturday of June...

Greetings developers, and other participants of the project "NAVIGATOR"!
Success to Your endeavors!


Sincerely, MAG.no

[Экко]

When "manual" Assembly (especially soldering)

soldering has long been done automatically. back in the USSR so did the gramophone

[Маг.нет]

So we are different. "Manual Assembly" does not necessarily imply a soldering iron in my hands... and maintenance of process steps narrow the number of employees and their close proximity to the product at different stages. There are industries of different scales, the way in aerospace, some elements still solder soldering station and harvested by hand in the Laboratory a narrow number of specialists, as required by the technology. As for radios, many of them are still working without flaws.


Sincerely, MAG.no

[Практик]

Andrey Kabanov

And results in memorizing the words we expect from test group

don't know about others but guarantee it!
I just now PTS are actively studying English