By the way, why not assume that at that time lightning metal from Olympus? This does not contradict anything.... here is the unwavering presence of some fundamental physical laws operating independently of man is really nonsense... At that time the world might be somewhat different, although we are hard to perceive.
but that's not the problem, do not attribute my posts and what they were not, I was just trying to give a boost to your own analysis and integration of facts.
Here is one personally familiar to me a long time ago went to Bolotov, and witnessed the demonstrations of the cold metal smelting(sold not only to them, the cold melting from Hutchinson where it was posted on YouTube), with stirring of the melt with a finger it seems... or low-temperature-destructible (well, for example, plastic spoon, I do not remember details). Recently Bolotov published another revised and greatly expanded version of his physics (previously this book was in a network called "table isosteres Bolotov"... personally I think there is a correct approximation on some points is not bad - people on the basis of their beliefs makes their life solely working technology, standing far beyond officially available to us. And so many witnesses, including personally familiar to me and therefore not related to me by questionable sources. What am I?
Yes, that Rinat is also a theory, much different. Work conclusions theoretical prediction of the mechanical fan (as you correctly stated on another thread of this forum - it is very similar to the generator Schulze, Antibosskey development, I consulted with a specialist in the development, he confirmed that there was such a device the Germans, but due to the presence of abnormal masses of different technologies, he did not attach much value is just one in a large range of devices). Another theory, also working, also prakticheskie results proven by third party researchers, repeated descriptions of the site.
Also abnormal results, quite similar to classic data (see the description of the experiment in the Tashkent University)
Well Shahparonov. By the grace of the former supervisor (or whoever he was) many years ago took mausami, and a lifetime working in the technical boxes, including srednekamsky, which was and remains the same kuratnik, he is dragged under personal olujobi, however, leaving the experiments on very high quality scientific level, if at all possible, when the surface gets more anomalies.
Further you can go.
Here's an example of Andrey Sklyarov, the author of a heap of documentaries, in addition to the historical showing that the planet clearly has traces of the existence of super-civilizations, with available technology, they filmed and such funny films as "Anisotropic world", telling about the whole direction in modern science with its experimental confirmation, obtained at the normal academic level, international conventions and so-forth.
And what unites all these people ?(and you can still go on to give examples)
They "dig" in the framework of its world view, its "extended" from classical theory. Anomalies received some not very well described in the framework of the theory of others. What unites them is that they are not looking for the common denominator, and the existence of "neighbours" with practical and theoretical results gives them no joy, and allergies. They are not all the same - years of work experiences... their "alternativeness", going beyond the dogmas of the official science is hard-won, it is theirs. To abandon the progress that is unthinkable, but to take into account the "neighbor", means to partially jeopardize your results. The risk would be that this is only more confusing ... other than "classic".
So, a lot of researchers and theorists cooked in their own juice.
Actually, I exaggerate. I know that many looking for expansion of their data about the world. But the analysis through the prism of his theory costs them hard and sometimes filters out a lot of useful.
I have much more than 10 years talking with many different representatives of alternative science and practice.In the field of physics, medicine, and something else was happening and the names don't always think clearly can
Know that there are often wishful thinking. Used to be incredulous, and filter. Although when you have a complete picture, it is usually immediately visible causes of effects and approximate the truth about them. So wrote above - in all its diversity a lot in common.
However, if people (or someone specific) actively worked on the integration of all into a single whole, perhaps was born of something more integral and complex whole.
Unfortunately, modern science generally there are some unsolvable problems. But to talk about them even alternative researchers - taboo
beyond the concept of perception. I absolutely do not want to offend anyone. I appreciate the website "New physics", and certainly not for one year send debaters to read "Trifles", which I know the links with forums of alternatives for a long time. I communicate with some of the above mentioned scientists. And some who can't call for a number of reasons. Some I traveled met... true it is a bit "abandoned" case, had long ceased to be interested to the extent that 10 years ago it spent time, now no more than a few posts on the forum is the limit of my interest...
The trouble with all these people that they could get other results, having information as a starting point, additional data. Ie having broader views of the world, generalized, integrated picture. The world would benefit from this.
For a long time all the excess in physics was deliberately salmonellas. Specifically, and not unwittingly. There's a lot of evidence, but I am writing about this so confidently for their own reasons.
To assess whether bad or good - I cannot and do not undertake, oddly enough, maybe it was good I don't know.
After all, technological progress is not always a plus, sometimes it's scary...
Now the strange period. A lot of information leaked. Network have formed a new society. Information not close and not only because I do not have time, seems to have given up for a number of reasons. I'm not sure that it always will be, in General it is as a transitional stage. On the other hand clearly shows a certain progress and preparation of public opinion to the fact that a number of alternative technologies will be implemented, or will be lightly veiled under a "nano" and high-tech. For example, write that the new supercar, the German production, with a strong 350 engine is 3.5 liters per hundred. It from what suddenly?
but the official news
there are hundreds of examples, this first turned up.
Our time leaves people much less likely to learn to think on their own about some of the physical aspects of the world. Just because early level of technology was simpler, in different circles in high school instilled a basic understanding of the simplest things. And now it's all very high-tech.... on mugs assembled from ready ready and little understanding of what's inside. However, there are pros - freedom, albeit conditional, dissemination and exchange of information.
Integration of efforts of different researchers would give the younger generations a broader view of the world and soon it would give a purely positive social fruit(and no other would not but....). I am far from thinking that it will affect the technology level of this plan is well-managed. You can only rely on influence within the perception of the world. But it is sometimes more important.
In this sense, I have to admit that was shitty compelling reason forcing the author of a branch (or group of authors? behind the specified texts) to refrain from consideration of examples, too strong (which is likely), or world picture does not allow to consider such information as credible, what not to give evidence, though public demonstrations arranged. In any of the three options is not the fault of the author of the thread, but me fail. But in any case cost.
However, the world - stuff is helpful. Perhaps someone else will be the integrator of different ideas and works. Life will show.
PS by the Way I have reliable information, confirmed by different independent sources that the platform Grebennikova really existed and flew, and now there is. Although known photos really fabricated, and there are certain reasons. So... for a snack. The world is much more diverse than ready to have our consciousness raised on its static picture ( all the polls).<