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[Алекс С]

And as You understand how this device works?

[.по.]

it's not really a device ))) I Understand how it works because you feel the electric current in the body and its movement.

[Алекс С]

How the feeling of the current gives an understanding of how the device works?

[.по.]

for this we need to get back to understanding )) as a bottomless chasm now between A and B

[Алекс С]

and all the same?

[Гуфест]

Madhouse ,there's no snot will not let me

[.по.]

Foresaw that this question would arise... And it is for you and only for you wrote a whole topic on magic of biochemistry...

[Алекс С]

Thanks, of course, but still unclear Either the person knows how it works, or doesn't know If you know whence it is
You can get feedback when using the device, but it will not give knowledge, how it works

[.по.]

Either one knows how it works, or doesn't know If you know whence it is
You can get feedback when using the device, but it will not give knowledge, how it works

that's a great point... how did... man learns something you didn't know... Where are the new scientific discoveries (periodic sleep, for example)? Where are new, unique combinations of any kind - economic, political, sociological? Where are the technical innovations and simply work of art? This is also commonplace, in principle... throughout the history of mankind.

Where is the something, where something is taken... just to sit down and decide "here, I'll come up with something new" - it doesn't work... Or will something not very funny, contrived, imagined.

Here, probably, an important role plays the electric current in the Central nervous system -- By which it thinks

[Алекс С]

and... if you go back to the device that You are using... the source of Your knowledge?

[.по.]

source - "I" )) the Driver of the subconscious. Mainframe and possibly part of the antenna - the brain. Wires are the nerves. Environment - electromagnetism (light). TV - head, in the eyes, microphones in the ears. Well, a lot more of bioelectronics crammed into the case In yours too, by the way.

[.по.]

if the question: "how???" - it is alchemy, control of the body and the autonomic system (psychosomatic), the alloy of the conscious and subconscious control currents, a simple technique is described many times the same prayer, which you mentioned (very psychosomatic and correct action. You can practice continuously for two or three years and understand the "how")

[Алекс С]

well... thanks for the chat... I think that will do

[.по.]

with you it was very pleasant to communicate, despite a number of provocations - you never lost it, it means good self-control and working of consciousness, instead of reflexively

[мячик]

Here we are trying to make? to discuss the far-fetched problems.To say a firm no,no soup won't help

[Aura]

Here we are trying to make? to discuss the far-fetched problems.

Of course, not the flimsy problem is only their own family problems, who themselves have decided, Holim and cherish God forbid, disappear, without them, dear, are we going to do All right and left- surely far-fetched.

[.по.]

Vampires are not the vampires - the position of the Saint. Also position if you are willing to take

Here a slightly different approach, I think... Who is this man? The same animal, hardly anyone will argue. There are less intelligent animals (squirrel, hamster), there is a more reasonable (dog, cat, elephant, Dolphin). If you take the individual animal is always an animal that is less reasonable than it is which is more reasonable. And it is unlikely this rule is suspended for the man - is more reasonable, is less reasonable for any person.

But then if the human animal (you can always find someone whose positions you yourself at least reasonable), what does that mean... For newborn kittens, lying, jerk paws, we treat with affection - nyashki and mimimi. But they can scratch my eyes out of each other just jerking spontaneously paws - in this case, I sympathize and treat.

Why, in relation to a person, the same animal must be otherwise... If it is less reasonable - so just more ozveren, but the animals we love? And the animal with glimpses of consciousness is that bad, because dogs and cats we love other animals just for their glimpses. Moreover, you are more beast than human in the eyes of someone more conscious... And where is the line that time, and turned the beast into a living creature? It is not, it moves endlessly.

Well, if animals accidentally hurt each other by nature... certainly Unpleasant, but what can you do, if so arranged, the other rules do not. That is, Holiness is nothing to do with it - there's no other way, as in the case of shared habitat (comfort for me), not only physical, but emotional/mental.

[.по.]

So... There are two ways of constructing this hierarchy of rationality (hierarchy is a fact and it can not escape)...

The first way: the hierarchy of love, when everyone is more intelligent/conscious loves and cares less intelligent and conscious (animals, children, some other people subjectively call "vampires").

The consciousness and the beasts and children, and "vampires" will grow up, you yourself were also animals and drooled in the cradle... And the "vampire" itself was once (and maybe still is)

The second way: hierarchy destruction when each more irrational/animal trying to dominate more reasonable, parasitizing on it. This is commonly called "trash" (just the name of the type of attitude to life).
Or a variation: each more intelligent/conscious of trying to squeeze the maximum from a lower material - they're animals... And that in local usage, and not only, is called "MAG".

Cattle overran the country (corruption and theft) - physical, "wizards" has captured the minds of the seekers - is immaterial. And the people here enough... And how to turn one into the other, except "diffusion", non-verbal copying itself,... Options with no position of comfort, and personal in the environment (its quality must be high for comfort, both material and moral)

[впути]

no more than a theory

[.по.]

but no less than logic

[.по.]

I thought here that if such a simple household, clear and practical description in plain terms seems to be a theory... what seems real and figurative description of the "zone of perception" are based on written... Probably will seem like a fantasy...

After all, if the person did not like the description about "be a man", then he is in every way and will prove that well to drag themselves under the form of "all me, all me, and vile reptiles and undeveloped third-class people constantly trying me energy to pull, and I be whole developed! No they are not ladies, you better knock hard!". But it's just animal behavior, drag it into a burrow to swing a club and to be fully closed and aggressive ))) Is also necessary, it's natural... but you need reasonable where the measure (balance) - high quality consciousness.

Well, if zverinata in man 50% (food, sex, wine there to drink, the St. to think, to survive, to reproduce - a natural need) - but most of that 99%, where most of the "esoteric" are the same here, considering myself someone over, while the opposite is true: with increased intelligence comes increased responsibility for others, sozialisierung, integration into the total "I" and the thinking of General measures, not only for its.

[впути]

logic)), you do not need to bring it under some description, and hang tags.

[.по.]

not necessarily, Yes. But at least to be able to Express it is necessary to be able to? Express anyway. Some expressed as "vampires eat me, so good!". But if they Express their own what's inside of them, the inexpressible... And inside them and eat only in their own minds.

That's what it is... That you also itself expressed as "not more than a theory" and "do not have to describe and label". But your words - is not more than a theory, but even and not logic addition. Just like you expressed, I don't know how to describe. Isn't that right? After all, if they could describe - describe. And since you do not know - then logic with descriptions you don't like it... feels very distant and unnecessary. However, this is the first tool of understanding and if anything is contrary to logic - so it is in itself wrong, it does not pass the coarse filter.

Maybe you have your own theory about vampires and so on - show the work of consciousness, share )) Look for and highlight the contradictions of the model with a flashlight )))

Or maybe you believe that the "Magi" described very ugly and actually all differently, and their behavior correctly. Let's check such a case, generalizing it to all (reception generalization to hyperbole to highlight the extremes and see the contradiction). For example, everyone is a "magician" and trying to squeeze more of the weak and foolish all the resources... It's called "hell" where everyone eats all along the chain. The flip side of "hell" is where everyone takes care of everyone. Personally where you would like to live? Of course, to be the "chief devil" is very profitable, but it is still uncomfortable in such an environment, there is always hell and most importantly ))

Seems available have described, without theories? Hence the conclusion - perhaps only two hierarchy of consciousnesses, which you like? ))

[впути]

I agree. I feel more guided than the descriptions, so do not judge strictly. For example, years ago, I would not understand what this people write, a sect of some kind I would think)) I Fond of different practices, but not "stuck" to any one all little take. Vampires also feel the best weapon against them, in my opinion, this is ignoring, if possible of course. A clear division into heaven and hell also do not accept, consider this extreme or extreme cases of one whole and United. Between the extreme points a variety of options and mixes of both. I'm more inclined with mutual aid than to the sharing, but again it's not black and white, there are still "between". For example, some help others, to be honoured and these people really get it in the form of energy, "goose bumps," they say. Here they are, good or evil, vampires or not? The hierarchy can be identified at all, but it makes little sense. We're not going to fight, because it'll lead to the same one with the extreme points, we're in a different part/place of this one.
messy must write.

[.по.]

Vampires and also feel the best weapon against them, in my opinion, this is ignoring, if possible of course.

the fact of the matter is that they are not vampires, but exactly the opposite (as it is the opposite - there is the answer which you are satisfied, but can to find it themselves?) ))) Feel - let's say, but that's just interpretation... Ignore or not - it's like, if you really feel it. There is a different mechanics of interaction, where the disregard does not affect in any way the process, is helping himself not to be a "vampire"

In the subject's levels of understanding are the following steps with increasing levels of consciousness:

1. I'm super-duper psychic, I want to fuck and I have them all protected, I have a hundred thousand items for this.
(in fact, this state of Nigredo, black inside, closed hearts and closed, no mind, no kindness, one black will)
2. As all wrong and wrong! Only I know everything! I'll explain how they're wrong, because I alone possess the secret of the mysteries, which may sell or transfer only for the select me.
3. Hmm, are mistaken-that is not all, there are some normal. But vampires really got, especially friends, colleagues and relatives from all sides. But I'm a mage and I'll bring all vampires back! (this is a "vampire" in the classic sense of the word)
4. To each his own, still can not avoid. If they are guilty - let them fly a boomerang and I all so clean, but that someone out there will punish me.
5. But are there vampires? Or is there just not very happy people?
6. Ah! So here it is! It turns out many about around here were aware of the dozens of foreseeable years, one I've been slow...
7. Do not care (ceased to struggle, to fight, to defend, and in fact with oneself somewhere in the middle of the list)
8. Care (a positive vector)

and so on, with increasing understanding of the mechanisms of reality, the decrease of aggression and the number of "misguided", and the increasing socialization.

From time to time very funny to see how people from categories 1-3 are called vampires of class 10-11, for example, which has already developed a sense of responsibility, self-control, and have long since moved on vector "recoil" ))<