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Neurofen

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 18:03
by Экко
Since the day I learned about neurofen can not get rid of the thought how to make it. Decided to create this topic. In the net of information is not really found. But, not knowing the concepts, but knowing the principle, it is possible to develop.

I read that there is in the net and article Patrushev In healthy skin - healthy hearing.

Understand from this that:
1. Neurophone there is no electric connection with the person.
2. the audio signal is modeled at the ultrasound frequency 40kHz (which really should be constantly changing depending on the resistance of the skin) and goes to the ultrasound transducers, which are imposed on the skin?

Could it be this simple?

however,
the Key to understanding the work of Neurophone lies in the stimulation of nerve endings of the skin discrete coded signals, which, according to the holographic model of the brain, have such phase relationships that are recognized by any nerve in the body, like sounds.
so discrete-time signals and modulation Aplicada different things. And it says about phase shift.. :roll:
Emitters one of the first models of Neurophone was very similar to the apparatus for ultratonotherapy proposed in the 60-ies of the inventor D. Sinicki. The same discharge electrodes with a voltage - 3000 Volts
And why such a high voltage need not understand?
I represent a block diagram like this:
[Low signal] --> [AM modulator] --> [speakers attached to the skin]

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 18:59
by Маг.нет
Экко wrote:[dynamics, applied to the skin]
I think the ultrasound transducers in this scheme play the role of sensors/stimuli of nerve endings, and that's why discreteness and amplitude. Discretion, in this case, needs to be calibrated signal/response, it's pretty hard work to undertake such scientific research is to decode the signals of nerve endings.
Further, the question whether the effect on the output we wish to receive if the extension of perception, I recommend to try one of the functions SK - "mental speaker". Probably even possible to order a "remote test-drive" these properties. If interesting, question to the office...


Sincerely, MAG.no

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:16
by Тапка
The question in the speakers mmmmm.....If you take the dynamics of how to explain it - quartz chtoli such Piezoceramic transducer 3P-3, OOO!!! accurate . Incidentally Isho http://gprime.net/flash.php/soundimmersion and here http://robe-rob.ya.ru/replies.xml?item_ ... ncrnd=5376 very fun

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:21
by Тапка
COOL!!! listen with headphones and as the effect of 8.1 soundsystem PPCC!!!!!! DO NEUROTONIN!!!!!!URGENT!!!

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:23
by Тапка

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:27
by Тапка

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:34
by Тапка
http://home.dmv.com/~tbastian/nuro.htm shimgi of narional ,))) there I Smara and uselog and the modulator and the voltage multiplier is.

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:45
by Тапка
incidentally there is mention of a piezo disk type , to collect the simplest shamhu and loading on the piezo mmmmmmm, very tempting.....

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:00
by Тапка
http://slil.ru/29438375 History of neurophone and prospects , very interesting article

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:04
by Тапка
ECCO - sho well , radiomechanical ti our ))) do ???and share their experiences.

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:40
by Экко
I liked this scheme R. Andersens Neuro Circuit
it is only necessary opredilit-type emitters

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:34
by Андрей Патрушев

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 14:54
by Тапка
EKKO - I, too, this scheme is like , but , you see where the throttle is and written 2H .
2 Henry inductance is ppccc!!!
For example, the chip dip the throttle 0.16 MH is worth a thousand .So what do you think.

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 15:04
by Экко
Sneaker
it is necessary to calculate the quantity of turns and wound himself

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 15:15
by Тапка
Incidentally I read in one forum - 1-4 GN. recruited from the 20 watt chokes for fluorescent lamps. L = 1Гн, R = 35 Ohms. Laying there for 0.3. Cheap and cheerful and Nitsche shake is not necessary. Damn at one time chokes PPC of balooo)))

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 15:58
by Шалтай Балтай
People, why do you need this toy?

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 16:19
by Экко
People, why do you need this toy?
well.. at least then there is a direct communication with the brain, I want to try it yourself.

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 16:39
by Тапка
body and Mosk is given to us to keep experimenting with it)))))

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 16:44
by Тапка
http://coil32.narod.ru/ the program of calculation of inductance

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 16:54
by Экко
http://coil32.narod.ru/ the program of calculation of inductance
I have only gives one hell of Colville turns 1,91E4

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 17:41
by Шалтай Балтай
Тапка wrote:body and Mosk is given to us to keep experimenting with it)))))
yeah iek live and learn
I thought ISKCON think....
and you.... such an embarrassment :-)

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:59
by Михаил_
I bought at the time... thing is nice, funny, but not really....
I like just good acoustics :) quite loud and with the availability of high-quality low and high frequencies. I mean, not to headphones and speakers :)

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:31
by Тапка
http://www.symmetron.ru/suppliers/acous ... zers.shtml piezoelectricity, it is the most powerful at 250 volts like. http://www.chip-dip.ru/catalog/1534.aspx chip dip is my favorite)))

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 1:23
by Тапка
consult with your developer - those that produce will not go, either by mold or look for.They have a radiator designed for high voltage .ISCO!!!)))

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 21:17
by Экко
they Have a radiator designed for high voltage .ISCO!!!)))
just can not understand: zafiga there's a lot of pressure??