My ALTARIA ))

Экко · Post by **Экко** » Sun Aug 29, 2010 18:59

This is based on such clips can try to make a "alfarista" the electrodes only need to remove those scary teeth to attach (can solder) plate.

Тапка · Post by **Тапка** » Mon Aug 30, 2010 0:56

I do not advise crocodilly......

.Pressure ear much sho PSSS.

While it's up .
I like their laid out somewhere on page 2 of the plastic clips ,there is a spring very good ,no pressure neither strongly nor weakly .

Экко · Post by **Экко** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:13

Purchased original Unit in the store honey. goods (sorry dear admins

). So now will be able to explore

I write under its influence, the effect is felt already after 2 minutes, although promised strong happiness is not felt

p.s. A device can include connecting the clip to the ears? I turned, and there were a couple times that he vis and squeaked, sometimes shown on a display similar to the "L6". What is that can? Right now, this has failed to repeat.
And again, in the off state, press the power button, turn on the timer for 20 minutes, if you then click, it starts a timer of 60 minutes, BUT if you press again, the machine like turn off and then turn on, turn on the timer for 20 minutes, but countdown noalso click that same button again turns on the timer for 60 minutes, and also no countdown, if you press again, the machine will turn off. Then is repeated again. It may be a malfunction?

Экко · Post by **Экко** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 16:43

in short it is the fault lies in the fact that instead of turning off it restarts and in the wrong mode. I have phoned, promised to replace.

Тапка · Post by **Тапка** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 18:54

ECCO will show the waveform?????

Экко · Post by **Экко** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 19:01

Yes, it would be necessary to record the video. I have already connected Alvariu to oscillo. Oscillations were not seen at half a second - a second voltage, say from 0 to +19 or -19.

Тапка · Post by **Тапка** » Sat Sep 04, 2010 2:13

hmmmmm strannogo.....can scan microsecond put????this current can be

Тапка · Post by **Тапка** » Sat Sep 04, 2010 2:22

I have C1-94 - pasari Tama knopochka ms/us http://deforg.free.fr/Img/Osc_C1_94.jpg switch type

Экко · Post by **Экко** » Sat Sep 04, 2010 5:30

Switching millisecond - microsecond, so what?

Экко · Post by **Экко** » Sat Sep 04, 2010 5:32

record of still think it makes no sense, will make the divider resistors and connects to the entrance of zvukovojj, and record the signal.
p.s. Alfaria replaced

p.p.s no it's not in the scan, still not show periodic oscillations, for this purpose, we need a recorder
To the device does not burn, it is necessary to collect the divider resistance is approximately equal to the resistance from ear to ear. Connect the tester to brand Alfaresi clip, crap shows can resistance great

Тапка · Post by **Тапка** » Sat Sep 04, 2010 16:50

Once in pulsecode second say fluctuations skips mmmmm.......
incidentally we have 2 modes - 0.5 Hz relaxation-sleep( PPC as carries)))and 8-12Герц just alfaria.

Экко · Post by **Экко** » Sun Sep 05, 2010 18:59

I came to the conclusion that to repeat Alfaria need to reproduce a recorded signal from it to the player and then amplify special Wilcom and file at clip. Then it will be a real reproduction device

Тапка · Post by **Тапка** » Sun Sep 05, 2010 20:01

agree !!! - how to write a will??? cheres computer??? very interesting this signal for yourself to use)))

Экко · Post by **Экко** » Mon Sep 06, 2010 14:45

cheres computer???

of course

I can not understand, so trying to measure the resistance, which serves as a load Alfaria. Hooked the clip to the ears of the probes of the tester connected to the wire connector from the clips, the tester installed on 2000Ком, in the beginning he shows 200Ком, then the resistance increases uniformly, reaching 2000Ком, then issues 1.
When I measure just picking up the probe tester gives quite stable 300 - 400Ком. So I think some resistance is required for the divider.. just In case the clips off, 0 Ohms, it's okay

Экко · Post by **Экко** » Mon Sep 06, 2010 15:55

So, on reflection, decided to take these values. It will look like this:

Экко · Post by **Экко** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:16

Signal Alfaria

This 30-second segment, "shoved" through the window, the graph obtained by recording the signal of the original unit via Lin. the PC input.

http://imglink.ru/show-image.php?id=a8a ... 78d3395729

Экко · Post by **Экко** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:35

So, what conclusions can we draw?
Well, firstly, thinking about generators meander to throw nafig, because the graph shows that there is much more complicated.
2. Noticeable perfect repeatability of the signal of about 10 seconds.
3. What signal is and how it affects the brain? It would be necessary to calculate the frequency of the pulses. But the 8 - 12hz is not visible.

Тапка · Post by **Тапка** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 13:07

Uraaaa!!!!! congratulations!!!)) so ,Yes, we thought about the generator of a meander throw ( but it does work on me personally ),you know that EKKO - record the audio file, and one PTS experienced people will watch it .It hardware standards are , not that we sho S1-94)))

Экко · Post by **Экко** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 13:37

Sneaker
OK, the file I just saved.
http://depositfiles.com/files/y8vggsguw

Экко · Post by **Экко** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 13:55

As the manufacturer says in the documentation, a complex signal generated by the digital controller. So there are 2 options, if you have the knowledge to write their firmware, if not then just take the player that is connected powerhouse that it is necessary to calculate the spec. a way that he didn't napartachil signal and to the output were the parameters for current and voltage as the original machine. To check the quality of the signal at the output ucilka can in the same way as it was removed the signal from Alfaria.

Did the graduations on the chart, the image has updated in the post above

Тапка · Post by **Тапка** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 14:08

Then the signal is now dealt with on the part of the signal this form of due to the fact that at the entrance of zvukovojj are capacitors and because of such a low frequency - this graph we can see - so said our leader comrade MWS.
ECCO - mogesh longer to record ?? current per channel.

Тапка · Post by **Тапка** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 22:20

Here signal recovery from MWS - http://zalil.ru/29667657 repetition removed .That's just interesting why such a low frequency.......
MWS sews this signal altario - view test.

Экко · Post by **Экко** » Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:55

ECCO - you got a longer record ?? current per channel.

And the meaning of genuine? it is repeated every 10 sec approximately.
Rectangles what happened on your file.. Actually, it would be necessary to collect the ADC, and to hook to the USB or COM port, and record.

Тапка · Post by **Тапка** » Mon Sep 13, 2010 22:35

This is the signal EKKO . Rectangles is the true signal and the discharge-charge capacitors at the input of zvukovojj

Экко · Post by **Экко** » Tue Sep 14, 2010 13:09

this signal is very similar to the signal from the Apha-Stim. Then, the signal is correctly restored