Orgone generator with their hands (The Succor Punch, SP)

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Post by Ультимувер » Sun Mar 06, 2016 16:20

аВАЛОН wrote:Ultimater! the coil and the mineral crystal should be considered separately, each element has its own purpose and properties.
I don't agree with You avalon! If you consider the system only in terms of our dimension, Yes. Maybe you won't see any major changes. But if you are a bit you read and delve into metaphysics, you will understand that the effect really needs to be much more interesting, and for some even dangerous. Imagine for a moment two versions of the experiment, when the crystal-coil used in the direction of different types of laser, and I will try a little to explain what is really happening (again, in theory).
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1) the Accompanying winding. In this case should occur, the effect of the resonance energies of the crystal and coils, due to their common vector orientation, i.e. the Resulting energy, by resonance, will increase, and if we take into account the ability of crystals to store and amplify radiation without direct tabulation of e/m radiation to the coil system, it can not do without interference effect. The General formula, in the simplified form should look like the following: Er=Ek+Ekr+Es ( Where Er is the resulting energy, Ek is the energy of the coil, Ekr self - energy of the crystal, Es - external energy in the visible or not visible spectrum of radiation (for example daylight))
2) Paradoxical winding. In this case should occur, the effect of vzaimoponimanija energies. Er=-Ek+Ekr+Es. Because of the applied energy and the field produced in the coil of default is greater than the sum of the energies of the crystal (which includes the interference phenomenon due to applied external radiation), the resultant negative energy Er is Er=-Ek. For our measurement will change only the direction of Er and above our plan will create conditions for simple called "portal". Will now attempt to explain the essence. The difference between our dimension and the dimension above ours, is the direction of the field vector space (when one field is twisted clockwise and the other counterclockwise). If you create two fields vzaimoponimaniya each other, but differing in the direction of the vector, conditions arise (in theory) capable of imitation two nearby spaces (dimensions).
Ланцелот wrote:This is all theory?
Yes, this is all in theory. In practice, as something one does not want to check for yourself a similar effect (and so with health problems that does not allow), though I love to experiment. Crystal is available, the coil made, though not quite correctly made it is based, namely the process of pre-twisting the copper wire I have is somewhat simplified. I took the usual twisted pair and soldered with one side of its ends and closed shrink a plastic tube. Untwist the twisted wires of the twisted pair is not, and just folded the wire in half and twisted clockwise. Given the fact that the wire was already pre-twisted factory - coiled it more tightly in the same direction was not difficult. The idea is that such simplification should not greatly affect the final result of quality coil, but not having much experience in this area I can not be sure. To twist the 4-d wire and two twisted pairs are not the same.
The resulting coil was fixed on the crystal, and two copper output coil placed in the gap of the signal conductors conventional RCA adapter (the land was left untouched), Like the adapter is installed between the sound card of a PC and the amplifier output to the speakers. Included a variety of songs, have tried to use the pendulum near the coil with a crystal field for the registration of deviations, but the result itself is not. The pendulum does not rotate neither in the one nor in the other direction. The reason may be a small power supply with a preamp, or an error in the coil design. Sonic sensations, reproducible melodies seemed dull, rough, as if the poor bitrate of the file. Positive feelings were observed. The only thing that seemed odd is a subjective feeling in terms of the use as registered the item hands. Near the crystal I felt the hard radiation (field) that has previously so clearly when working with crystal to diagnose failed. Even after several hours out of a working system - crystal never ceased to radiate the feelings cetaformia hard field around itself.<

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Post by чернокнижник » Sun Mar 06, 2016 22:01

Ультимувер wrote:sonic sensations, reproducible melodies seemed dull, rough, as if the poor bitrate of the file.
This suggests that the coil is wound wrong. The essence of bifilar (2 wire) or Quadrifilar (respectively 4-wire) winding is almost no inductance. Correctly wound bobbin should not behave as a filter! If only the total wire length is huge, then Yes, anything can happen. From my experience I suggest: up to 20 meters of wire with the correct twist a noticeable effect on the sound quality is not provided.

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Post by чернокнижник » Sun Mar 06, 2016 22:32

Maybe useful to someone)))

One day, while pouring the high density layer, a significant portion of the metal stuff got under the coil pretty soaked in a not very closely lying coils. The effect of the finished device liked, so I decided to make another cake with a different location of the crystal, coils and layers of high density. For this crystal was flooded with a high density in a separate form (top of mosquito spray). Bronze powder+a fair portion of kandurin was soaked for a day in the heated resin, the crystal was put right this mess. On top of the resulting cylinders wound toroidal Mobius, continue as usual. Now, all my crafts have had to stand down in the far corner, because the experiment was very successful. Sorry I didn't check then how it will work without a layer of low density. There is a suspicion that for most purposes would be enough and high))

Never a magician, not Sens, but physically at the distance of half a meter clearly felt some kind of pressure on the skin. The signal taken from the book-reader, that is not very powerful. For therapeutic purposes works as a "night light" - 3.9 Hz is the result from a given frequency and expected. First start after a break usually works for insomnia, but then everything goes like clockwork. Radius presumably 10-15 meters.

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Post by Ультимувер » Sun Mar 06, 2016 22:35

Again in theory, if the single crystal to wear two equally wound coils, the result of superposition of fields, and as a consequence the resonance energy, the pumping of such a system needs to be quite powerful and dangerous in the hands of the uninitiated. Originally thought to make two identical coils placed on one crystal for each channel in the audio system, but something scary somehow.

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Post by чернокнижник » Mon Mar 07, 2016 0:29

Ультимувер wrote:originally Thought to make two identical coils placed on one crystal for each channel in the audio system, but something scary somehow.
is not necessary so to frighten. I survived this experiment, the surrounding is also in order. With two coils there are many prospects in terms of binaural audio, while we are not limited to carrier frequencies up to a kilohertz or two, you can safely organize a track at higher frequencies - we have no ears to perceive)))

PS. I'm not the first who made this experiment. Reports of deaths not reported))) Tell me another option is two identical coils connected in parallel, but are arranged one above the other. Your opinion?

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Post by Ультимувер » Mon Mar 07, 2016 23:37

чернокнижник wrote:two identical coils connected in parallel, but are arranged one above the other. Your opinion?
That the location of the coils I didn't, but the idea is quite interesting. Try to imagine the process of interaction of fields, but the only thing that comes to mind besides those already mentioned, - increased efficiency. The pump power of such a system of coils has to be by 25 percent more, but on the condition that each output will be fed the same signal.
Saw on the forum it was suggested that the series connection of coils on a single chip, which is easier by itself, but your option is much bole interesting. If you have already conducted a similar experiment, what do you say yourself?

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Post by Ланцелот » Tue Mar 08, 2016 12:25

warlock Candurin it food dye?
Bronze powder+a fair portion of kandurin was soaked for a day in the heated resin, the crystal was put right this mess. On top of the resulting cylinders wound toroidal Mobius, continue as usual. T
Did not understand, and when the crystal coil just poured the resin does not leak under the coil? Dust, warm resin - it is all fluid. Or have I missed something?

If the mixture of dust just kneaded in the resin, it turns out a large number of small air bubbles. If the resin and dust, without hardener, stand in the heat, the air comes out. Logan advises only the second mixture.
Although everything can be ruined if not properly mix the resin and hardener. I prefer to knead a drill with a nozzle in the form of the impeller. To knead so as not to drive the mixture down (air zahvatyvatit gets in the mix), and lift from the bottom (on small speed).

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Post by чернокнижник » Tue Mar 08, 2016 18:10

Ланцелот wrote:Candurin it food dye?
Yes. Dye CANDURIN the Silver is a titanium dioxide (titanium dioxide - E 171), or "Golden glow" - titanium dioxide (E171) and iron oxide (E 172). A very small fraction, for high densities the most.

Were soaked in the resin, in a sense, its basic component, with the aim to bring the bubbles. The heating, stirring, again and again. About a day mixed with hardener and put into this splendor of crystal.
Ланцелот wrote:did Not understand, and when the crystal coil just poured the resin does not leak under the coil?
Was covered a layer about a centimeter thick, and on top of this layer wound coil. That is, the coil turned away from the crystal. Since the layers are poured separately, formed a clear boundary between them. Common sense says that it should not work, or this scheme needs to be ineffective, but that is common sense and we the people are eccentric, and the experiment to put)))) Here, put it on, I liked the result.

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Post by аВАЛОН » Wed Mar 09, 2016 2:46

Ультимувер wrote:
аВАЛОН wrote:Ultimater! the coil and the mineral crystal should be considered separately, each element has its own purpose and properties.
I don't agree with You avalon!
this is not an industry where experimentation is safe, after 5 years of working with organic unambiguously came to the conclusion of the recipe is quartz, or quartzite plus mica or mica Muscovite subgroup plus epoxide resin. and everything else is empty of bells and whistles. well, if you want you can highlight the energy minerals and energy spinning the spiral and fusion reactor to create at home to all the mice was hung in a radius of 100 meters. :) go for it. as said wrote Gray some experiments, you can put in your life only once. if not developed the perception of at the level of Vishuddha and higher can just....
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Post by аВАЛОН » Wed Mar 09, 2016 3:10

magnetic materials three basic groups: diamagnetics, the paramagnets and ferromagnets, dear friends, if anyone has experience with these substances including orgonite, please share . thank you :)

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Post by чернокнижник » Wed Mar 09, 2016 10:31

аВАЛОН wrote:is not an industry where experimenting is safe
All experiments are dangerous, in any case. However, this thesis never stopped prying.
аВАЛОН wrote:everything else is empty of bells and whistles
It is necessary, therefore, to close the topic, once everything is clear? Teaching kostenlo and turned into a religion?
аВАЛОН wrote:some experiments can be put in your life only once
It's true. But "better than vodka and colds" (C)

To sum up: friends, if you have doubts, fears and want to protect colleagues from fatal accidents, let's move on from the esoteric pugalok to some specifics! "I did so, I felt bad" - and a detailed report of what's bad. If something is dangerous, you name the danger of what it is. If he did not check and came to the conclusion purely speculative, then add IMHO, so you can see where the opinion is not supported by practice, and where the result of observations.

We in this thread what are you doing? Looking for an optimal design of the orgone generator, I suppose? So let's look for!)))

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Post by ЗОМБ » Thu Mar 10, 2016 19:42

аВАЛОН wrote:to all the mouse hanged in the radius of 100 meters. :)
I have a problem of mice. anyone willing to recommend a design that works against mice?
i have a mice problem. anybody willing to recommend a construction that works against mice?

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Post by СтаниФилмТВ » Thu Mar 10, 2016 20:17

ЗОМБ wrote:I HAVE a problem of mice. anyone willing to recommend a design that works against mice?
You can try..organicology the trap..that is all metal mechanism to leave it as is, but screwed it to orgonite..instead of plywood..the Mouse will feel the positive effect of orgone on a piece of cheese, and often come across..)

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Post by аВАЛОН » Fri Mar 11, 2016 16:18

ЗОМБ wrote:
аВАЛОН wrote:to all the mouse hanged in the radius of 100 meters. :)
I have a problem of mice. anyone willing to recommend a design that works against mice?
i have a mice problem. anybody willing to recommend a construction that works against mice?
And You know the similarity of DNA from mouse to man? if mice and against human :)

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Post by султан » Fri Mar 18, 2016 23:21

Create orgone generator cone type,base diameter 26cm ,height 28cm. I will pour the epoxy resin. Wound spiral of metal shavings (clockwise,top view). Closer to the ground wakes the copper plate with a diameter with a diameter of 20cm above the base is a crystal of quartz(diameter 10cm,height 15cm).The rest of the space is filled with epoxy resin and metal shavings 2-3cm in length.What can you say about a salad?

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Post by чернокнижник » Sat Mar 19, 2016 12:28

султан wrote:copper plate of 20cm diameter
Something similar was done, not with a plate, and pancakes from the hard drive. Consistently filled a sort of "capacitor" with a minimum distance between the pancakes. Put one and filled, waiting for solidification and put the following. It's hard to say how this sandwich has affected the operation of the device))) In the experiment decided in the absence of a good crystal. Works in General, and it is fine. You have a decent size crystal do I need to invent something?

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Post by Седой » Sat Mar 19, 2016 20:57

Sultan salad will cost a lot, weigh a lot and will it be better?
why copper plate then?

In orgonite is the effect of the metal surface. Her and only HER should be plenty.

50% by volume metal. 50% polymer. And all of this is about 10 times larger than the crystal volume.

Such a large crystal, I would not filled with the hardening polymer. With this case, an excellent job and beeswax, or PMS-50. Even sugar and rosin.

I already tired to repeat that the training of the body, the mental tuning of the instrument is much more important, its characteristics and dimensions.

By the way who ever tried to feel or measure the field around a powerful Monistrol. SUPERCAPACITOR. According to the design there should be very strong scalar field.

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Post by XUPOH » Sat Mar 19, 2016 21:29

A small container instances (unit Farad) - nothing special. As usual electrolytes. Even mica KSO shki stronger.
The supercapacitors is initially quite low, so their caucutt/2 is small.

But what is there in the heat exchangers hybrids? while hands did not touch..

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Post by султан » Sun Mar 20, 2016 16:12

Gray all right mental setting is the most important thing. Crystal just has the mental is configured, the copper plate too.Therefore, these personal items use.Until solve the problem of long chips,I can't find such, so as to wind the spiral.

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Post by Седой » Mon Mar 21, 2016 18:48

Spiral chip? I thought you're talking about these metallic sponges which use the mechanics. Their rolls are sold.
Excellent material, by the way. And the helix can be screwed. The chips long to find troublesome. I fitters, who only knew this case was raised, when, to pick up long chips. I wanted to experiment. But then something changed my mind.

Not worth it to bother. Chips is chips. It's surface bigger. And the spiral can be made of copper wire.

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Post by аВАЛОН » Thu Mar 31, 2016 21:16

1. :)
2. 8) thank you
the activity in the branch is almost zero, left the post, he observed, went to the topic and thus probably a big part of read,more than 30 people responded to only one person 8) message removed for nevostrebovannosti :?
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Post by чернокнижник » Thu Mar 31, 2016 23:10

аВАЛОН wrote:maybe someone already tried that
And what's the problem? Have an idea and have the desire so to do. If you will be interesting and cool to announce on the forum, take on arms))) That's just clay, salt, IMHO, is a little way from the generator of orgone, from that which his own hands)))

PS. Salt "clumsy" in the sense that the reprogramming is not particularly amenable, but in "our case" it is better to have a neutral device. Or so that you can quickly. Salt may not ride. Sulphate is poisonous, experiments with it, not all were successful, and that's an understatement! And what the composition of that clay, what's he like in terms of chemistry?

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Post by Седой » Sun Apr 03, 2016 4:43

чернокнижник wrote:
аВАЛОН wrote:maybe someone already tried that
Salt "clumsy" in the sense that the reprogramming is not particularly amenable
I would say do not give in.

Disposable salt and not for long.
In pagan traditions salt blesses and fattened sacrificial animals. (Animals in the temple is not recorded and do not bless)
Apparently there is in this practical sense.

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Post by Владимирвввв » Mon Apr 18, 2016 23:25

And this contraption - Reflective tape - film Material:polyester, metallized.Also the idea of orgone as a product work? what do you think? this tape is polyester first, then the metal coating. designed to glue on the car and they reflected the light as the vests the cops.
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Post by XUPOH » Tue Apr 19, 2016 21:52

Why Ali? In any stroymagazine is metallized film for vapor barrier and sealing air ducts.

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