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Re: Small off-topic.

Post by Михаил_ » Wed Nov 27, 2013 2:01

Cereals harmful virtually all... read about sardenia...
well, okay there is something that you can imagine as You passing removed from the tree-Kusa and so on...
This is a simplified picture.
Olive oil itself will flow ? :)
I gave a link for only one reason - has long been known that whole grains is the external diversion, to throw in the world of pure external intervention (like agriculture, i.e. the time needed for their cultivation and the subsequent destruction of the soil), and some types of grain generally just jamming ability.
But before that, in open sources there was no information confirming this from the perspective of science.
Well, except for the notorious stories about local and genome of cultivated wheat, which is covered in the Soviet era Lysenko (wild wheat has a short genome, and cultural - all long, they just do not have connections with each other and cultural appeared immediately everywhere on the planet).
cereals - death :)

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Re: Small off-topic.

Post by Нетрезвый Сурдопереводчик » Wed Nov 27, 2013 2:56

Михаил_ wrote:Grains are actually harmful all...
cereals - death :)
An acceptable model raw food I have not yet discovered.

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Re: Small off-topic.

Post by Михаил_ » Wed Nov 27, 2013 3:05

contaminated body :) I was not looking for any model, just as body cleaning (natural) eliminated the ability to have almost all the usual, including (and very long), almost all for cereals ... well, that is, small doses I can... but there is an unpleasant feeling.
do not look for any "model" :)
well, there is a wonderful article quite clearly explains the difference for body of live and dead food.

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Re: Small off-topic.

Post by rel » Wed Nov 27, 2013 3:08

cereals and cereal - death
and some types of grain generally just jamming ability
0балдеть.. 've seen that You have about grits, but only now, with the N-th kick shot (realized) that it is worth taking the effort to refuse. It's just hard, however, to begin to think differently than all my life before that (that the porridge cereals Yes almost a direct synonym of strength, health, fields, nature, etc.), plus hard in that tasty after all, really like.. only a week ago, ate three packs of different "quick" cereals, I thought working for myself. Now put on the "mess" of a specific ban (the latest version of the language about it, finally convinced, thank you!), turn the bread with derivative (it will be even harder but...)

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Post by Михаил_ » Wed Nov 27, 2013 3:37

well, bread is even worse - there whitening, plus additives in the flour, plus the thermophilic yeast (heard what?)... and so....
in General, optimal is something that has not undergone cultural human intervention or minimally he suffered - i.e., grows as a wild and can be eaten without serious processing.

about wheat
http://progenes.livejournal.com/190473.html
http://www.dw.de/%D0%B3%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0% ... a-16449902

can't find old article, but the meaning in the ancient varieties of wheat have 14 chromosome structure, and modern 42 chromosome ....
well and... well, stuff... three separate genomica.... superterrane :) current gene-engineers resting nervously smokes on the sidelines.

http://otvet.mail.ru/question/16603124

and somewhere was in a network of old scientific work in Soviet times that the 42 chromosome mestrina everywhere somehow manifested in the world, while at the same time as her alleged wild "brethren" (or sisters?) live in their regions themselves probecause 14 chromosome wild and feel great. anywhere to mutate and interbreed do not want.

I think the rest of "grain" going smoothly? just "bread around the head" _ ie sucks with it all....<

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Re: Small off-topic.

Post by Михаил_ » Wed Nov 27, 2013 4:34

demolished - don't see the connection with the theme.

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Re: Small off-topic.

Post by Нетрезвый Сурдопереводчик » Wed Nov 27, 2013 8:47

Михаил_ wrote:contaminated body :) I was not looking for any model,
possible :) but contaminated with something that kind of,in not the conventional sense of the word :)
my garden I have, I'm much more annoying to chew nitrates and pesticides that take place under the code name "vegetables" and "fruits". I,for example, really feel the aliveness and the deadness eat products. Feel that bite of the Apple,and there is a 2 cm solid "chemistry" plus the negativity of those who gathered-Packed-sent-weight wrong :?

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Post by интересующийсябж » Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:28

Hello,

If "grain" is not going smoothly, what could be a substitute for grain?

By the way rye the same is a 42 chromosome montenoy or not?

Thanks in advance.

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Post by Искатель » Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:49

интересующийсябж wrote:Hello,

If "grain" is not going smoothly, what could be a substitute for grain?

Fruit :)

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Post by димыч » Wed Nov 27, 2013 10:10

"even in the "geokulturines" the condition of the tubers in ten or more times greater than that of cereals and bean yield, however the ancient person, for whatever reason, suddenly ignores this fact. Thus the pioneer-farmer somehow believes that he has little difficulties, and further complicates his task, entering even the most complex treatment of the crop of all possible with more the whole industry (stone!) of the means of production.
Objective and unbiased analysis shows that life only becomes more complicated. For a variety of options early agriculture worsens the conditions of existence of ancient man. In particular, the "cabling" to land and depriving them of freedom of maneuver in adverse conditions, it periodically leads to severe hunger, overpopulation and mass epidemics, virtually unknown to the hunters and gatherers.
The geography of ancient agriculture causes further doubt in the fact that the transition to it of our ancestors, the feat of the lack of "fodder". According to N. And.Vavilov, agriculture appeared for some reason in the most affluent areas of the Earth where the preconditions for hunger was the least.
Another "detail": it is now universally recognized as the homeland of wheat is considered to be a narrow strip that surrounds the Mesopotamian plain. And from there the wheat is believed to be dispersed throughout the Earth. However, in this point of view is kind of "cheating" or the manipulation of data.
As a result of global research into different types of wheat Vavilov showed three independent from each other the source of origin of this culture. Syria and Palestine was the birthplace of "wild" wheat and wheat-odnosemjannyj; Abyssinia (Ethiopia) - the home of hard wheat; and the foothills of the Western Himalayas, the centre of origin soft wheat varieties. In General, Vavilov clearly comes to the conclusion that the statement about the homeland of wheat in Mesopotamia, or the assumption about the homeland of wheat in Central Asia have no reason, but he is the biggest specialist in this area. It was discovered that the difference between types of wheat signed on the deepest level: the wheat-odnoselchanka has 14 chromosomes; the "wild" and hard wheat with 28 chromosomes; soft wheat have 42 chromosomes. But even between "wild" wheat and hard varieties with the same number of chromosomes turned out to be an abyss: from "wild" you can't get hard without specific genetic changes !!!
Moreover, a similar pattern of "isolation" of cultural types from regions of distribution of their wild shapes there were still a number of plants (peas, chickpeas, flax, carrots, etc.) ! Wow it turns out a paradox: the homeland of wild varieties is not a trace of their cultivation, which is carried out in some other place where "wild" forms anymore!"

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Re: Small off-topic.

Post by ВикторРусс » Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:47

above post paspaley website :? and the source here: http://lah.ru/text/sklyarov/zerno-text.htm
A. Sklyarov "Heritage of drunk gods" ("Battle for the harvest: who and why it was needed...")
periodically we see Granny very old age, selling tubers of Jerusalem artichoke, not enough money for "tasty" food from the supermarket and expensive drugs, in appearance ,has a health, eating raw tubers well, maybe bread

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Re: Small off-topic.

Post by Андрей С. » Wed Nov 27, 2013 15:41

Нетрезвый Сурдопереводчик wrote: my garden I have, I'm much more annoying to chew nitrates and pesticides that take place under the code name "vegetables" and "fruits". I,for example, really feel the aliveness and the deadness eat products. Feel that bite of the Apple,and there is a 2 cm solid "chemistry" plus the negativity of those who gathered-Packed-sent-weight wrong :?
And the raw materials for your cereals harvested at dawn, like a young virgin on organic fields?

I was amused by this argument :) To abandon fruits and vegetables, because there are "nitrates and pesticides", whereas in "normal" food with arsenic, first, more, secondly, from her and not to remove in any way, while in the case of vegetables-fruits:

1) there are markets where you can find normal products;
2) there are organic shops;
3) a at (artifact, food);
4) a Panacea (and for her);
5) freezing water washes away external poisons (useful mostly for fruit)...

... and still a lot of things. It would wish.

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Re: Small off-topic.

Post by Михаил_ » Wed Nov 27, 2013 20:07

Нетрезвый Сурдопереводчик wrote:
Михаил_ wrote:contaminated body :) I was not looking for any model,
possible :) but contaminated with something that kind of,in not the conventional sense of the word :)
my garden I have, I'm much more annoying to chew nitrates and pesticides that take place under the code name "vegetables" and "fruits". I,for example, really feel the aliveness and the deadness eat products. Feel that bite of the Apple,and there is a 2 cm solid "chemistry" plus the negativity of those who gathered-Packed-sent-weight wrong :?
yeah, well... you can always find something alive, well, at least read the forums raw foodists, it's not only pollution but also the fact that you shoved yourself - tie-dye or alive, even if not until the end of Natur.
Among even imported it is possible to provide adequate, well for example the same babany-oranges when rawfoodist eats the chemistry he immediately feels it, so it's been tested by many-many people.
But really there are plenty to choose from - even imported. Well, something to prepare you for a few months of storage.
Well, some people just leave there where all year round there are fresh.... just do not say that that is not feasible, all feasible, and sometimes not expensive, how much of our lives in the same Thailand, Goa, etc - minimum prices ... food is fine...

and "sagizanne body" it is not a sort of and so, in a quite usual sense, cannot be a person on cooked food is not contaminated the body. Have you ever a topic then learn before you argue. But it all felt easy, felt when running.

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Re: Small off-topic.

Post by МерКаБа » Wed Nov 27, 2013 20:13

I raw food I know, because I could not ignore a constant signal from the subconscious that are buying and eating real chemistry. But from the country Kasteli plucked just from the tree, felt a real delight.
At the moment my body refuses to accept, almost all store-bought food, including himonya vegetables and fruits. In this regard, I believe that only the RIGHT raw food diet for environmentally friendly products carries real benefits. But it is not easy, especially in small towns, where everything is driven from one of the vegetable base.

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Post by Михаил_ » Wed Nov 27, 2013 21:11

Нетрезвый Сурдопереводчик wrote:fruits are great when you live on the rent from renting apartments or sit in a warm office. and if you have a hard physical labor(like me),I will long look like you work on the fruit. Yes,you can begin to shift energy to its limit,but we are talking about nutrition food. Once I had the desire to start eating fruit. read the website proceed...and realized that I can't spend so much time obtaining and eating the right food. Yes, and by the fact there were numerous stories about how proceedi move from the cold edge to the South. While I'm not very fit...
I have earnest request to end disputes and flooding. With physical labor on fruit are all VERY good, much better than cereals, just great, I have already cited the example of Bruce Lee, but there are plenty of our countrymen entirely on fruits, including here there are with physical labor all right.
So without familiarity with the subject - not flute please.
As for the "move" - so this is about something else. Just do not want to limit myself with the climate and food.
In General food is not a necessity.
Just those who have been zeroedit, feel where it is more harmonious to live.
And technically arrange it everywhere, even if I can't afford it.

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Re: Small off-topic.

Post by интересующийсябж » Thu Nov 28, 2013 0:06

Hello,

Thanks for the info about grains and the above article about the wheat and "food from the gods"!

Who are some of those who have been zeroedit can share experiences on the use of meat, fish and eggs. The fact that after 3-4 weeks of working with BJ I have changed my diet, but about it already wrote a lot on MM and OM, and any effort I in this direction did not.

So the question is - You principle the meat, fish and eggs do not eat or eat but only wild animals?

Thanks in advance.

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Post by С. Альбатрос » Thu Nov 28, 2013 0:34

I don't think those who zeroedit, eat animal food.

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Post by Михаил_ » Thu Nov 28, 2013 1:52

About eating raw animal foods I only remember one scene and Zelazny Tu u and Tu by the end of the end of the world :) :) :) when Lord Corwin crow eaten :) :) :)

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Post by С. Альбатрос » Thu Nov 28, 2013 2:38

Yeah, and it is unclear why mostly: whether because of the fact that he was hungry, or because she still brought :)

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Post by Алекс С » Fri Nov 29, 2013 16:13

Colleagues :wink: please help with advice on the use of turntables to recovery.

I understand that if the body is dirty, use turntables should be metered.
I think 5 minutes a day to start, a few inches from the man.
And then you can add 1-2 minutes, watching him.

The question arises - what to do with the spinner in the rest of the time.

Option 1: To put the turntable at a distance of 1-1,5-2 meters from the man and let him revolves around the clock. After all, the cars taxi drivers at that distance, in fact they are all day and work. However, there is the main thread goes on the car, the nuance...

Option 2: to put the turntable in another room for a refrigerator. Don't know, "punch" whether the spinner in the refrigerator and improve the usefulness of products. Don't know, nothing wrong with that turntable will be ON chargeable items. But it seems to me that to charge a meal - this is it. Well water to put on the fridge, next to the turntable.


And another question after who's got a turntable, tell me, it makes a noise? Can I sleep with her in a quiet room? If it is packaged in three layers of foam/padding, it will still be useful?

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Re: Small off-topic.

Post by ВикторРусс » Fri Nov 29, 2013 16:56

at the works at the option 1 in the room, only the backing is made from printouts of mental programs, "the wheel"
you can sleep , noise but not much more rpm depends on the drive model and even whistles on the drive chip LB.. noise down
refrigerator does not break :) direct contact is best, or wrap it in foil or in a pan and cover with water, infect better than the fructose-glucose solution in water, if whole fruits to charge, it is better watery
packaged in parole and sintepon not suggest, you may receive a taste of this in water :) but organics can be applied

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Re: Small off-topic.

Post by bofara » Fri Nov 29, 2013 17:04

I have a turntable, but no longer enjoy, because as weak goes, and you are not technically well executed, don't know, I'm not technically very competent.. to be Remembered, however, when I ran into the kitchen and made coffee in an aluminum coffee maker /and a lot of the time then as I removed the chopper from the kitchen/ coffee became several times faster.. that's the theme of 'charging' and following a certain materials 'mu-particles' of course you know that aluminum for 'food purposes' not very good/..

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Post by Алекс С » Fri Nov 29, 2013 17:33

VictorysYes , indeed, I remember the story about the chopper, cats and Valerian. The foam will be replaced by mineral wool or a box of untreated wood will do, although he in sound - don't know. bofarathanks for the info, and You how long and how close were to the chopper?

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Post by bofara » Fri Nov 29, 2013 17:40

Алекс С wrote:how long and how close were to the chopper?
Run at night /during sleep/ also all day also worked /it's a month or two or three worked and then I put it in the 'drawer'/. Were also links via my CD /so bofara from other worlds got online, I remember then I 'lost' misunderstood for me is the way books Pak Jae Woo - World of trinacria, I in his time wrote about it on OHMS, then probably needed another bafaro :lol: /, hair and nails, etc., for cases when was not close.. Remember the exercises on AI was very good then, I winter in the open window did AI and SO heated, that then needed to pour cold water. Then sort of just be great if that you do not know, but it was gone..

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Re: Small off-topic.

Post by Михаил_ » Fri Nov 29, 2013 21:54

no need to pack in parallon
the noise depends on the design, overall, as an ordinary noisy hard drive (speed walked).

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