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Re: Small off-topic.

Post by Андрей Ермаков » Wed Jan 21, 2015 19:54

Yes, the unexpected turn :). Although what? Here if you start rarities to pull out, that will be interesting. Like technology different.

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Post by Михаил_ » Wed Jan 21, 2015 21:44

Petr99 wrote:Though, if you think logically, such a policy, GDP should lead to the aggravation of international relations with developed country where such a lie in favor of the state.
Well, the aggravation and so, my friend listened Salle - talks too much "surrounded by enemies, the people of Russia elected" - well, I'm not talking about that, but about public support for that position and feed the information which in other places just for the conspiracy theory recognized :)
To recognize at least part of the real picture - a major shift. Then you can see what's up with all the others, because the result determines not only the ideology, but people....
I, unlike many who lived in the USSR, don't miss those days though are not adep Western model of the world :)
It was not too freely. My school told me that either the dissidents or the 2nd revolution :) Although I have lived / evolved within the system and does not rebel. I just did what to do not been made publicly said they see about the behavior of people including adults, called a spade a spade... drove the teachers pen to the Director to prove their competence in the stated subject... :) :) :)
Because I studied pretty well, I had an issue with the system was the unspoken reaction/rule that 2ечниками/bullies can do anything, and honors/the b - the bulwark of the system :) and here is the paradox ... T/e/ I was not satisfied with the disease and not herself, that prevraschala it in place of the dull - namely, the behavior of people... on the ground, a long-lost part of humanity.
But we though the fresh-grafted ideology not moving in the USSR, since time spiral and not looped.
Now everything is different and ago we're not going back, even if coming denomination ( probability though not 100%) come from 00 prices and the dollar once again become as in the USSR 60 cents :) :) :)

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Post by Petr99 » Thu Jan 22, 2015 5:14

I think the echoes of external influence or even modulation. (on the website with ground ball)
I think we (Russia, the Russians) are now in such a state that you don't know who we are and what we want, but intuitively already doing something in the right direction - as a result of the RGS and the policy of Putin.
In relation to the world it is a chaos, especially toward the Western world and, accordingly, will be perceived with aggression.
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Post by Михаил_ » Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:45

slightly cleaned up from any crap

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Post by Petr99 » Thu Jan 22, 2015 7:43

By the way, this clue about Tatars, for my mind was as highly anticipated, because of her all stretched like a single thread the whole web, including (cultural) customs and traditions, national signs, some sensations new (forgotten old).

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Post by Михаил_ » Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:25

Yes, everything is much-much-much harder in fact - don't get too attached :) there is reason to believe that almost all over the world were signs of that civilization (or civilizations used similar symbols/it and technology) and not only for us, and then it all ...came. That tells about some problems. If nod on the outside, who said that they would not be now? and are there external without the internal? I mean is that we must not only look backward, how to move forward.
In savanoriai / Vedic tradition, not everything is perfect. For example, there is too much space the command-administrative system (vertical current), which somewhat limits the creative component. In short you need on the basis of the good aspects of the past to go further and not to attempt to return to the starting point. It is a lyrical digression... there are other hidden aspects. But I see a lot of advantages in the always been to go closer to the actual situation costly than a solid no end of trouble/theatre/illusion.

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Post by Пилигримм » Fri Jan 23, 2015 16:22

Michael,please tell me, where can I find Your work on Timecode?

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Post by Пилигримм » Fri Jan 23, 2015 16:34

I'll withdraw the question.Already found :)

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Post by Жорик » Fri Jan 23, 2015 16:36

Михаил_ wrote:in addition, there was a large (over 700 people) the team's intuitive prediction (draft forecast) for which it was designed special tools to increase your intuition and predict future

Michael, and you can read more about tools for improving intuition. what was the effect of this group?

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Post by интересующийсябж » Fri Jan 23, 2015 18:08

Today read information about the Internet in this form as it is now will disappear and will appear personifitsirovano access to everything by means of "thoughts" (that's what was said, but I understand). One more plus in the direction of that the world is greatly changed and becomes more flexible. As I understand it, meaning that your fingers to push the buttons will not have ... on what is inborn in us by nature will be to apply for a new one. In Russia, even the school when it was (do not know still exists) where students were taught to light a bulb, turn on the TV and other electronics without physical contact with them, and now we can see a time when the ability of each to grow not days ...

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Post by интересующийсябж » Fri Jan 23, 2015 18:10

"The CALL" is one of the examples of the present :) and the future of "phone" and "Skype" :)

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Post by bofara » Fri Jan 23, 2015 18:17

интересующийсябж wrote:ZOV is one of the examples of the present :) and the future of "phone" and "Skype" :)
Mmm, maps Dvorkin likely..
Call me to see a little bit about something else, but probably can be used as Viber-Skype Phone.. :?

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Post by Мастер 108 » Sat Jan 24, 2015 0:05

интересующийсябж wrote:Today, I read information about the Internet in this form as it is now will disappear and will appear personifitsirovano access to everything by means of "thoughts" (that's what was said, but I understand).
I do not plewinski whether the novel "the Love for three zuckermann" is inspired by? There is very clearly described fastap... 8)

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Post by Михаил_ » Sat Jan 24, 2015 0:15

интересующийсябж wrote:Today, I read information about the Internet in this form as it is now will disappear and will appear personifitsirovano access to everything by means of "thoughts" (that's what was said, but I understand). One more plus in the direction of that the world is greatly changed and becomes more flexible. As I understand it, meaning that your fingers to push the buttons will not have ... on what is inborn in us by nature will be to apply for a new one. In Russia, even the school when it was (do not know still exists) where students were taught to light a bulb, turn on the TV and other electronics without physical contact with them, and now we can see a time when the ability of each to grow not days ...
well, not all at once...

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Post by Михаил_ » Sat Jan 24, 2015 0:20

Жорик wrote:
Михаил_ wrote:in addition, there was a large (over 700 people) the team's intuitive prediction (draft forecast) for which it was designed special tools to increase your intuition and predict future

Michael, and you can read more about tools for improving intuition. what was the effect of this group?
The results were veeeery good (93-96%% accuracy daily prognose the direction of the trend, it's just a pile of currency t/e/ percent of total average. Not all but 5-10% of the total number of people. For others it served as an excellent smotreniya that influenced everything else. Positively. But all of us had increased the pressure on the system (not supposed to know whatever it is tomorrow) and increased General apathy (just the result depends on teamwork, then I can type and popularity tomorrow) or having a home/family circumstances. Dimitri tried to convince me that the "problem" is that people need to "stimulate" the work articles constantly and different mailings, otherwise they relax, but the question is, what for to me such "leisure" ???? :)
But on the other hand, those methods now seem not even anachronistic in General, something too primitive :) even then the series Vх was not...

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Post by ИгорьС » Sun Jan 25, 2015 14:44

Michael_if not too much trouble or have already encountered: there is such Sergey Danilov, who travels with lectures about the world order and etc. On YouTube plenty of material. Interested in your opinion about the provided information.

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Post by Мерлин » Sun Jan 25, 2015 22:29

Michael_Hello. Decided to become a raw-foodists :) Ran into this Gisecke of fructarians: http://artemu238.livejournal.com/. An excerpt from this (http://artemu238.livejournal.com/13041.html) article:

Cyanocobalamin (vitamin B12)

Even in the absence of dysbacteriosis and the presence in the human diet is rich in vitamins raw plant foods, the body rawfoodist needs conscious help. Because we all know about the difficulties of admission to the body of a man who refused to animal food only "problem vitamin" - cyanocobalamin. Neither animals nor plants can synthesize this vitamin can not. He was born through the vital activity of different microorganisms.
Small amounts of vitamin B12 may be present only with a touch, dust and bacteria on the surface of fruits, vegetables and herbs. However, with the advent of modern hygiene standards people personally limit the intake of this vitamin from plant foods. And this was clearly confirmed by various studies, including in experimental animals.
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A little treat of raw-foodists can be the fact that the reserves of vitamin B12 remaining in the body after the rejection of animal food, are large enough. And, therefore, a serious deficiency of this vitamin in the absence of its receipt from the outside develops only after 4 to 6 years of vegan lifestyle.(i) According to studies conducted in Germany, the level of vitamin B12 in the blood of vegans smoothly decreases with the growth of experience of veganism.
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In light of all the above causes mild surprise vain bravado of some raw foodists who are in the early stages of veganism (5-10 years) trying to show off his blood tests. These people inspired the normal results of their audits, starting so enthusiastically to deal with "myths" and "fairy tales" about the lack of anything on the raw food diet that simply do not bother to read this issue. It would have been fine if their ignorance has affected their own health and was harmless to others. But, no! A unique feature of these individuals is the thirst for public attention. The fact of the matter is there are some ridiculous notes and an interview with another "debunking the myth of the lack of vitamin B12 in the raw food diet", which is misleading and threatens the health of many beginning raw foodists.
There will also be appropriate to say that such fanatically-minded public in General is not adequate in relation to the topic of human health. When, for example, the same interviewee of sermoneta his eyes from bleeding in the brain death of his wife, he didn't even analyzed the possible causes of this tragedy. With his words she just suddenly fell, suffered a stroke and died. But young, healthy people on good nutrition just is NOT FALLING, and certainly NOT DYING.
Of course, now it's too late to say something and we can only regret the death of this girl siromoney. But each of us must make every effort to prevent any such incidents in the future! Therefore, each raw foodists should be as informed on this issue. It is enough to read at least the text, and the above unfortunate case will become clear. Because it turns out that lack of B12 can cause sudden death from bleeding in the brain looks completely healthy people(!!!)
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If you don't have any phobias regarding vitamins, you can take B12 pills or regularly (daily or every few days) or a few times a year to take his course (daily for several months). In the case when the idea of taking vitamins bother, it would be appropriate after 2-3 years vegan-raw food diet every year to donate blood. If the result of the analysis will show increased size of erythrocytes with normal or elevated levels of hemoglobin, poikilocytosis or you have symptoms of tingling and numbness of the limbs, it will have more significant incentive to reconsider their attitude to the topic.


Sorry for the large quote, but please. What about B12? So much of information around, don't know where the truth lies. The author of this gieske writes more or less adequately and convincingly.
By the way, what is your "experience" rawfoodist?)<

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Post by Михаил_ » Mon Jan 26, 2015 3:25

Something was messed up in your head and the person who wrote this crap.
Begin with the end, but rather a clarification veganism and sardenia is a COMPLETELY different thing(the article mentions vegans) . By the way who prevents You cucumber straight from the garden - crisp and tasty?... So there is every reason to believe, that Yes, veganism is heavily distorts everything. Some substances do not act and the body is still garbage.
So. I other meat heavy meal (chicken/fish as well) I don't use about 27 years. Not fanatically. T/e/ was the case of participation in social activities (such as summer for General get-together once a year to eat barbecue, well then there was the diarrhea, well, to hell with him, one-time change of diet and the body brushing immediately sorry and all). Seafood I now sometimes (rarely) eat, again, not out of desire but rather in the social environment-such as easier food if it is not located in a public school where I went with the company. Dairy products (high-quality type of home) finished to eat well, maybe a couple of years ago.
Almost a full raw food diet now for about two years. In the surroundings there are people who have raw food diet a complete lot longer. (Over 6 years). It was long not eating meat-fish-dairy products at the dawn of vegetarianskoe part of my nutrition (more than 8 years) nothing is numb :)
However, I was never "convinced" and always listened to the body and yourself. About the vitamin I think is complete nonsense. Firstly, it is well known that body mass is best to synthesize maybe that's when it's in the right condition and to study it simply could not (no one was), and secondly - who said that THOSE metabolic processes that ordinary people they are correct ? I here, for example, reasonably believe that the work of the mitochondria is not correct... there is about it is. Thirdly, when the person long is on the raw food diet, it generally purely arbitrary tied to food. Here is a need to understand for themselves.
I already cited the example of some chatter on the raw food forum, t/e/ not a show, just a statement of fact - a girl wrote that got fired and she stopped to buy fruit (elementary there was no money), then got to work and started. The feeling of hunger/weight loss experienced. The experience of the raw food diet she had at that time did not remember (some years now). Thought - it is "starving" for more than a month and didn't notice it... just was busy. That's about the right condition of the body. Vegans have it will never be (the use of a wash will not give).
Have raw foodists/monocytoid can be when using other methods of purification of the body. T/e/ not guaranteed IMHO.
Therefore, sardenia it's not a fetish - but only ONE of many components.
And so the human body contrary to the opinion of scientists capable of anything. The rest - ravings of these scientists.<

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Post by Михаил_ » Mon Jan 26, 2015 3:27

Well, if "worried" cough occasionally analysis of B12 - who stirs? moreover, it is synthesized and can be on drink a course, personally, I wouldn't - I feel great and tests are also 20+ don't give up - and what for if I don't get sick? I was sick in elementary-middle and early high school just TO changes in diet.

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Post by Жорик » Mon Jan 26, 2015 16:23

Михаил_ wrote:the Results were veeeery good (93-96%% accuracy daily prognose the direction of the trend, it's just a pile of currency t/e/ percent of total average. Not all but 5-10% of the total number of people. For others it served as an excellent smotreniya that influenced everything else.

sooooo interesting! What exactly were you doing? What techniques were used for forecasting?

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Post by Petr99 » Mon Jan 26, 2015 19:44

Michael gave a hint
Михаил_ wrote:but on the other hand, those methods now seem not even anachronistic in General, something too primitive then even the series Vх was not...
Moreover, Vx free for the independent production

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Post by димыч » Mon Jan 26, 2015 20:18

when I worked with one person, so every day he ate as a vegan - brewed some cereals, there is wheat or barley and eat it without salt. After chewing a carrot.. And so every day. Have not eaten meat, especially if not buying))
Physical condition is it in my opinion was good, looked younger than his 45, but at the end of our work together for 7-8 years, he began tight as it is to think.
and I recently found out that he is dead, did not live up to 50..
as I have explained, from the diet, he began an irreversible changes in the brain and the doctors couldn't do..
I understand that this is also a wrong diet and a clear bias in favor of carbohydrate diet..
but it can also be interpreted as lack of B12

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Post by Антоха » Mon Jan 26, 2015 21:44

so here panic and bring!

it all reminds me of an anecdote...
for literally not answer, but the meaning is something like this:

men scored mushrooms, fry and is afraid, suddenly poisonous
one suggested to give the dog a try and see
and gave the dog, she ate, and ran...
to this, someone suggested, say, follow her, see, you will die or not
well, he ran
those who remained, waiting for him, already quite hungry
several hours passed, and they began to slowly eat
almost finish, the first one is returned
he is asked: - how's the dog
- dead!
it's messed up, two fingers in his mouth, to wash the stomach
a little later I asked: - and how it died?
yeah, got hit by a car!

...this I mean that there is no need to interpret it and pull the ears
especially in the absence of reliable information

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Post by Евгений-М » Mon Jan 26, 2015 21:55

Usually people who eat raw buckwheat such disorder in the head, that the existence of them in living form a great success. :)
But if to speak seriously, then it's certainly not in the vitamin B12 or any other. Need to freshen up completely, and not only physics or nutrition. A One-sided approach does not work, and the examples you see in life, they are usually sad.

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Post by Андрей С. » Mon Jan 26, 2015 22:11

All right :)
I will add that I believe normal raw food (but, of course, without a heap of all "pseudomyrmecinae" - all sorts of perverse dishes, like regular, but with "raw" ingredients - you know, all sorts of raw food cakes, pizza, cheese, hamburgers... - this stuff is more harmful than the original food :)), and, as half-measures - vegetarianism, that is when don't eat meat/fish/poultry, but not veganism is a greater perversion than "normal" food.

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