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Re: Small off-topic.

Post by Друид » Wed Mar 19, 2014 10:55

Анор wrote:a question for the experts!
An experiment was conducted. The conventional chopper from one disk to 10 thousand revs.
Taken 2 onions and put in the glasses (seen in the photo). The bow was 6 days. Wheat 3 days.
The control was far away from the turntable, the subject in close proximity (3-5 cm)
Attention a question: why spinner inhibits the growth of plants?
Yes, what was the purpose of the experiment?
which program flow control turntables used?
water for irrigation is the same, or different, and where it was and where was taken, how long?
"distance" is how many meters?

By answering these questions, I think you will find the answer to the question "why".

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Re: Small off-topic.

Post by Анор » Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:42

Here are the answers to all the questions and found no answer. Because no program existed at all (and what these programmes are?). The second the water was from the tap is the same and the plants were not irrigated and were with water, some about turntables other from her in 3 metres away (across the room). In my opinion everything is clear.

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Re: Small off-topic.

Post by Petr99 » Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:24

You could experiment Samodurova his doubts, and his move could affect anyone who might have seen him. The world has become more dense and the individual processes cannot be considered that are located in a vacuum from possible interactions with something or someone.

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Re: Small off-topic.

Post by Анор » Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:26

Petr99 wrote:You could Samodurova experiment his doubts, and his move could affect anyone who might have seen him. The world has become more dense and the individual processes cannot be considered that are located in a vacuum from possible interactions with something or someone.
A simpler explanation is that any closer to reality?

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Re: Small off-topic.

Post by Petr99 » Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:30

Describe the experiment in more detail its intentions, why it was desired. More in the description stay on top of their own thoughts, emotions, before, during and at the end of the experiment. In any result, there is a reason.

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Re: Small off-topic.

Post by С. Альбатрос » Wed Mar 19, 2014 13:31

I have no turntables, but it seems that 3-5 cm is too close, so can not be set, but 3 meters, according to the experiment is acceptable. There is no principle the closer, the better. About it seems somewhere it was written that on the side of the turntables vplotnuyu to put anything if I'm not mistaken.

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Re: Small off-topic.

Post by Воффка » Wed Mar 19, 2014 14:24

С. Альбатрос wrote:what side turntables vplotnuyu to put anything if I'm not mistaken.
Wrong. From the top and bottom is not advisable.
Анор wrote:secondly the water was from the tap is the same and the plants were not irrigated and were with water, some about turntables other from her in 3 metres away (across the room).
Too close distance. Need significantly more a few tens of meters. Better a separate building. The room where the experiment was conducted became rich "Muscari".

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Re: Small off-topic.

Post by Анор » Wed Mar 19, 2014 15:02

Voffkawhat is the difference what is the distance?
Why spinner inhibits the growth of plants near it?
Again, I'm not trying to get crazy growth, I'm trying to understand why there is oppression in its vicinity, if it says it increases the parameter "quality".

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Re: Small off-topic.

Post by Хаст » Wed Mar 19, 2014 16:02

During germination, energy is taken from the reserves of the seed, the external energy is not used, the seed itself radiate. External energy flow inhibits this process, well, sort incoming and outgoing flows cancel each other out. If so you should check the already germinated seeds with green sprouts, in which there is photosynthesis, the idea they have to accelerate from a chopper. I think so.

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Re: Small off-topic.

Post by Валерич » Wed Mar 19, 2014 19:15

Хаст wrote: I'm trying to understand why there is oppression in its vicinity,
Have you tried to move the turntable or plants to change the direction of rotation? That is, swap them. Think not now remember where, I encountered a similar experience.

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Re: Small off-topic.

Post by Анор » Wed Mar 19, 2014 19:18

I do not understand what it means to swap?
Just move the plant and turn in space?
Or to change the direction of rotation of the turntables?

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Re: Small off-topic.

Post by Валерич » Wed Mar 19, 2014 19:51

Yes, we are talking about it. Or, the same, nothing to move, but to change the direction of rotation.

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Post by Воффка » Wed Mar 19, 2014 20:29

That's just the direction of rotation should not be changed, it may adversely affect health. Rinat on the website still has a warning about this.

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Re: Small off-topic.

Post by Владер » Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:43

Maybe a more simple explanation:
Noise is bad for plants.

In any case, it is near impossible to put (there is also no static), at least 1m

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Post by Воффка » Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:12

Vlader
Vladimir, Hello!
Throw, please the link where Rinat says next can't be put. As far as I remember, its in the hands you can keep.

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Re: Small off-topic.

Post by Владер » Fri Mar 21, 2014 6:33

Hi!
Says Rinat for this reason I do not know.
This is from personal experiences when working with different technogenic sources of energy.

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Re: Small off-topic.

Post by Валерич » Fri Mar 21, 2014 11:23

Воффка wrote:That's just the direction of rotation should not be changed, it may adversely affect health.
If the turntable viewed from above - rotate counterclockwise if the bottom clockwise. The point of orientation relative to the object.

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Re: Small off-topic.

Post by Михаил_ » Sun Mar 23, 2014 18:20

Хаст wrote:During germination, the energy comes from reserves of the seed, the external energy is not used, the seed itself radiate. External energy flow inhibits this process, well, sort incoming and outgoing flows cancel each other out. If so you should check the already germinated seeds with green sprouts, in which there is photosynthesis, the idea they have to accelerate from a chopper. I think so.
Error.
During the germination of the EXTERNAL thread(only not from a chopper, and the native, from his species, he at the modulation frequency and ideal) is responsible for their growth and basically it, the rest of the conclusions are also not true.

Incidentally this is why GMO's and other modified plants have the effect of vampirism (e.g. person) and not only for seeds, but adult plants in any form - eat GMOs and you pulled energy.

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Post by Михаил_ » Sun Mar 23, 2014 18:26

I checked it (about GMOs) experimentally and came out very hard - the experimental sample is stored in one of the labs still, they can apercu person to strip and to cause serious disease in a short time because of the blackout full (well it is possible and useful to do).
And just what was done - created a mental gene modified species (i.e., altered wave part of the genome) and germinated - the flow was "zapechetlen" in the media, this media to your body and feel the pain of Stripping afirca. Stored in a special screen. I.e. in the experiment, just the usual effects of GMOs have been strengthened slightly.

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Re: Small off-topic.

Post by Михаил_ » Sun Mar 23, 2014 18:31

Воффка wrote:Vlader
Vladimir, Hello!
Throw, please the link where Rinat says next can't be put. As far as I remember, its in the hands you can keep.
1. Whether a little that says Rinat. He did not understand what makes perfect.... trying to fit into the framework of physics. He didn't believe about the mental component (as the requester) is not spent on my recommendation experiment with BioLink (hair-nails - his gene material), which (experiment) almost got him in an unconscious state (and he's only bakery went).
Of course not.
In hands to hold - not for long.
He described in detail the state of "Overdrive" from a chopper many times in his stories. Is this not enough?
He also described that he "wasn't well" after sleeping near (not too close! just nearby!) a few metres away!
He then, as he wrote, the epithelium of the throat is updated and so on.

I have very strong but also have experienced a long time ago similar - but I was working with 2 turntables, powerful, and held the flow from them on a group of about 20 people through the evening that day I was broken and then another couple of days it was a very hard condition. Though it was long ago and I was different.

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Re: Small off-topic.

Post by Михаил_ » Sun Mar 23, 2014 18:33

Валерич wrote:
Воффка wrote:That's just the direction of rotation should not be changed, it may adversely affect health.
If the turntable viewed from above - rotate counterclockwise if the bottom clockwise. The point of orientation relative to the object.
Yes, that's right.

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Re: Small off-topic.

Post by Михаил_ » Sun Mar 23, 2014 18:36

Владер wrote:May be a more simple explanation:
Noise is bad for plants.

In any case, it is near impossible to put (there is also no static), at least 1m
The noise of the plants really don't like, it's a known fact, and Yes, close is not necessary, but a meter or more depends on the power of turntables, I would say the meter is the minimum. Better yet, put water nearby (very close) and plant this water to water. So the effect is guaranteed to be soft.

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Re: Small off-topic.

Post by Михаил_ » Sun Mar 23, 2014 18:43

Валерич wrote:
Хаст wrote: I'm trying to understand why there is oppression in its vicinity,
Have you tried to move the turntable or plants to change the direction of rotation? That is, swap them. Think not now remember where, I encountered a similar experience.
There are things that CANNOT be (read - very dangerous and will bring avail) to determine empirically if there is no direct perception of the processes.
Reverse the direction to use just not recommended. Together with the direct and not in equal proportions, maybe, but not for beginners.
They (both directions) have special meaning.
But check out this "experiment" is not exactly necessary.

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Re: Small off-topic.

Post by Михаил_ » Sun Mar 23, 2014 18:52

Анор wrote:
Petr99 wrote:You could Samodurova experiment his doubts, and his move could affect anyone who might have seen him. The world has become more dense and the individual processes cannot be considered that are located in a vacuum from possible interactions with something or someone.
A simpler explanation is that any closer to reality?
This explanation is most simple and most close to reality.
All You just correctly answered.
A series of experiments (not only fan) is very dependent on the influence of the experimenter (can be said so that the chopper - amplifier message of the experimenter, sometimes subconscious, such as fear or fear).
Such things are now quite scientific (in addition to already known information about psyleron for example, recently there was an article about quantum effects in the differential. the bars in light transmission, where the influence of the operator affects the behavior of light is actually always), the chopper - the same case, because the effect of the what-not, i.e., a stream or a field from a chopper on your experience visible, but You try not to recognize the importance of the operator to this effect.
The flow is always someone or something modulated according to the principle of "a Holy place is never empty". It is possible to eat so that it affected beside him will not.
About this here and only here it was much written.
The same Rinat admits that he puts the meter on a car - is recorded for a long period of time changes in fuel consumption, and puts on the same car another person - the changes may not be (or can be) and it's not in the "know-how" and in my head.
It is probably partly beginning to understand, but still tries not to think about it or think minimum.

The second error is too small a distance - You just fried your onions.
And this is not a branch called "my home lab" so such a comprehensive debate is not relevant here, all later demolished nafig.
The answers to your questions are obvious, and your failure is that You in the first place is not carefully and thoroughly considered the information on the topic. Almost not studied. Need warnings (including about distance) is Rinat.
He describes in great detail "overdose".<

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Re: Small off-topic.

Post by Анор » Sun Mar 23, 2014 19:03

Michael, I do not deny the impact of the operator on the stream fan. On this topic we can argue who is stronger thread or the operator was thinking at the operator or not. And if there was something more about what plants need to grow stronger about turntables. In General the idea about the operator I think is not suitable to the situation.
But how about the fact that You wrote Kolo turntables "growing option "quality"? If so, then the quality of plant growth should improve. However judging by the other experiments in the field, the fans are changing "time" parameter in the direction of slowing down. Maybe that's it. Or maybe just stream from a chopper killed his "pressure" these plants, because they are, after they have put aside and turned off the turntable, never grew up.

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