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Post by Malvina » Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:37

People just want to exist in a comfortable environment.A little rain will not hurt the Universe.Unless of course abnormal heat is not part of a global plan to change the Land.

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Post by Смелый » Thu Jul 15, 2010 13:26

Шалтай Балтай wrote:
Смелый wrote:But if these processes do not like Your intervention?
And if you like? 8)
"We cannot understand how our word will respond".
Some of the classics.
Go ahead, but personally I'll pass.

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Post by МерКаБа » Thu Jul 15, 2010 14:25

Смелый wrote:one of the hypotheses about the destruction of Atlantis says that Atlanta has reached the highest level of technical progress. Then they swung to the reorganization of space and started to create some huge Merkaba. As a result, the curvature of space and as a consequence, the disappearance of the continent.
Three-phase Merkaba decided to launch the Martians who lived at that time together with the Atlanteans. This was done in order to get control over the consciousness of all living people on Earth. Well, after all: an experiment gone wrong and as a result Atlantis sank to the bottom, and we have fallen so low in the measurements.
Of course, this is just another hypothesis :)

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Thu Jul 15, 2010 15:21

Смелый wrote:, "We don't understand how our word will respond".
mmmm.....
the rain? :?

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Post by рыжая » Thu Jul 15, 2010 21:29

Шалтай Балтай wrote:Bold wrote(a):
But if these processes do not like Your intervention?

And if you like?
I friend told me that she died in Moscow uncle. Heat affected. And how many people it has affected? If I could change something, I would even these processes are not asked whether they like something or not.

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Post by Андрей Кабанков » Thu Jul 15, 2010 21:39

Now in Moscow is very difficult,the elderly,and how many people are bedridden,they generally awful.
The city is not ready to such a long-lasting heat,air conditioning in the apartments it is rare,this had never happened before.
I have here, the ambulance to the porch arrived,too bad someone...

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Post by Михаил_ » Fri Jul 16, 2010 1:18

Смелый wrote: Michael's right when he says that what is happening now with the weather, the outcome of deeper processes. But if these processes do not like Your intervention?
A detailed answer to this same question Boris on his forum.
To interfere can.
And about Atlantis why not just tell.


I do not think that we should not intervene, I believe that we NEED to intervene, otherwise so far you can go to sit quietly. Moreover, I believe that in such matters, which affect the overall living conditions any person has the right to vote and the right intervention.

but the reason for the low effect is that data management processes do not occur at the expense of ordinary intentions, desires, a broadcast signal via Radionics and so on, then there are certain equipment.
No techniques will work only fixing versions (branches) of the future, but if not, then it doesn't generate.

The second problem is that too much territory under the weather anomalies. To change individual pyatochok will not work, and a large area - need a lot of power of impact, or instead its high level.

the problem of conflict of interests is solved by the correct wording and accuracy.
People were taught not to go anywhere. And in General this is correct. Except that personally affects the person and everyone around at the same time. Example - the war. People stands on the protection of the state, although the rest of the time about him and not much to remember.
In other cases, a person climbs where his lack of experience (i.e. where it has the real possibility of process control).

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Post by Смелый » Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:45

Can interfere with natural processes, or not, let everyone decide for himself. Personally, my solution for myself is to not intervene. I will try to justify their point of view.
Everything is happening now climate processes, only a part of more global processes. Because our life on earth is intended the experience, including watching the environment. Unfortunately, the man learned little. And the current processes are just a warning. But the question is - who. Scary to think about this idea, but perhaps the fate of mankind is already decided. (This is just my guess). And the whole human mass is divided. The destiny of each is decided individually. And now perhaps there is a set of missing points, some representatives of the human race (again, these are just my thoughts and assumptions). But if so, what criteria of activity of the individual would count in the standings?
I got the drifter, with a roar wearing at night a few hundred meters from my house. I'm sick, and yesterday morning I took the Atlas of the city of Vladivostok and on the map, to the place in the diagram where the marked ring favored by drifters, put the Parlor. For lunch, stopped to address issues that should have been addressed, povylazili requests for different people, although I do care, damn. And so the whole day wasted. Drifters this night was a little, around the ring in circles did not go, only a few machines with a roar swept past. From this I concluded that this method is effective, but the environment he did not like. This morning the Parlor was removed from the card.
About suffering people. My absolute conviction. Suffering he who must suffer. If someone is fated to die - he will die.
16 January 2006. On a COMPLETELY strange conglomeration of coincidences, I was in the building Primorgrazhdanproekt (although not where I was going). Leaving the building, heard the cries of fire. Then the fire thundered all over the country. Burned 7th and 8th floors, which were kreisverband and offices of the owners of the building. A first group of persons took away the cars in front of the building, making room for the fire trucks, then moved down to the road on the right side of the building, where there were three fire trucks: two fire trunks and mechlistmic departing 50 meters. They stood like that for a while, probably assessing the situation. Subsequently, remembering the second, it seems to me that at this time, someone in the sky, made the last calculations and decide who in that moment on the burning floors - dies, who is injured. Then the machine began to move into combat positions. And I immediately realized that something terrible happens that defies human logic. The fact that fire is a terrible force raging in the right wing of the building. To this burning Windows crowded and screamed for help a lot of people were free of the narrow passage, which could advance the position and work, only one fire engine. I have argued earlier and say now there should have been nominated and work mechlistmic. And then no one from the front side of the building would not fall. (People fell at the rear of the building, but I only found out later). But it was not fixable. To the right side moved the car with the jet gun in the cabin and closed the installation and operation of maplestory on the Windows of the floors of the right wing of the building. Stairs went to the left wing, where the Windows was only light smoke, some time to maneuver, then the driver was installed the ladder on the window. At the end, the driver went to the site. I together with unknown to me at that time, the man literally begged the driver to move the ladder to the right, where the Windows were already falling men and flying 7 floors, banging on the concrete canopy. Our efforts were in vain, then there was a fight with this fireman. As a result, a criminal case. However, after a review in two courts, it was discontinued.
All these developments ultimately in the reasoning led me to two conclusions:
1. If something out of the ordinary going on, put him not - one.
2. Intervening in the events of daredevil, will be swept away to the side, if excessive perseverance, will receive beans. I was left without a criminal record just because I overestimated all of the incident, praised the actions of the driver of magistracy and came to the conclusion that he was just following orders, and was a kind of victim. And anyway, there was such a heap of idiocy that ultimately, all this leads to the conclusion that there is nothing accidental in this world does not occur. Any accident - unknown pattern. And so I think, the one who had to die or die to die or die, no matter how cruel it may sound. Although it certainly does not mean that there was anything like that (God forbid) again, I'm not sticking my head in the new.
So my conclusion for myself. These products and should be used to improve their personal qualities, their existence (that is inside) and cannot be used to influence the surrounding world, that is, to the outside.
It is my conclusion, for myself. Your - do it yourself.
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Post by Маг.нет » Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:59

Смелый wrote:, Data products and should be used to improve their personal qualities, their existence (that is inside) and cannot be used to influence the surrounding world, that is, to the outside.
Bold, I understand Your position, but...
1. When you change the outside, change is happening inside, and Vice versa. And no way to isolate this relationship, because it is all one, artificially separated by man. Man is the inseparable part of the World.
2. After reading the thread about the Chamber the views of distinguished ASD and Michaela, caught the relationship - talking about one, only with different parties, and highlighted the difference of views. What, in my opinion, it is:
Chamber filter the incoming stream of marked properties - normalization, that is, protection. Using "cuts" (useful) strip of the stream. Saving of vital energy as a resource makes it possible to use the saved energy to the gain (extension) Creative processes of the operator. First, "inside" and "outside" (teach seminarah).
BJ, IC, etc. of the product, in my opinion, are oriented in the same direction, first the normalization (through harmonization) - full of energy and repair "wires-meridians" after Creation. First inwards, then outwards (trained on site).
What's the difference? Michael_ supports the view, limiting the incoming stream, usually limits the Creativity because of the "distortion" of the incoming information stream. ASD - permits the restriction of information flow, calculated and giving useful changes in the field.
So, it is useful for the person the infusion of additional energy, both inside and out, a change in one promotes change in the other.
It is my conclusion, for myself. Your - do it yourself.
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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:52

If you're talking about the consequences of - a - thing- tobacco.
We must look at the root
It is always necessary to see the CAUSE and work with her.

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Post by Смелый » Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:41

Шалтай Балтай wrote:If you all are talking about effects - a - thing- tobacco.
We must look at the root
It is always necessary to see the CAUSE and work with her.
Look in the root of the need. But you need to have eyes capable of seeing this "root", other senses of smell and sposobnye to smell and to feel this "root", as well as great brains, able to assess proanalizirovat and make the right decision. I'm afraid that few people living on earth possesses these qualities, and if someone has, then "THAT MEANS THIS is the RIGHT DECISION?"
In modern medicine, the problem was the correct diagnosis. But the diagnosis is the disease. There are some unique people who are not looking for a diagnosis, and immediately find in the body caused disease. These specialists kinesiologists. And they went even further and developed a technique for determining the psychological attitudes of man led him to a physical ailment. But there may be other causes that can determine, no one can. For example, the causes of the birth of "conjoined twins", the birth of physically and mentally handicapped people. Where is the reason or the root?
The processes occurring in the world around us, it is much more complicated and multifaceted. So one of us is the doctor able to determine the cause (see the root) and assign proper treatment for the world around us?

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:38

well, who said it was easy
on the other hand, do not all too confusing
it just needs at least the skills of intuitive thinking...

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Post by Смелый » Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:52

"To each his own, said embracing the hedgehog Shoe brush".
Personally, my credo is shaped by my life experience: "I have the right to develop according to its own laws, and recognize the world around me the right to develop on their own, one known to Him the laws."
"Appearances are deceiving, said the hedgehog Dismounting from Shoe brush".

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Post by Новик » Fri Jul 16, 2010 12:01

Bold
Humpty Baltay

Mmmmm....
They practice what some do?
Or so purely to talk for life? :)

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Fri Jul 16, 2010 12:21

Новик wrote:Bold
Humpty Baltay

Mmmmm....
They practice what some do?
Or so purely to talk for life? :)
I'm not in the club
not all the time. :?
no reason, there discuss trends and put one by one.
like so.

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Fri Jul 16, 2010 12:22

Смелый wrote:, "to Each his own, said embracing the hedgehog Shoe brush".
Personally, my credo is shaped by my life experience: "I have the right to develop according to its own laws, and recognize the world around me the right to develop on their own, one known to Him the laws."
"Appearances are deceiving, said the hedgehog Dismounting from Shoe brush".
okay

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Post by рыжая » Fri Jul 16, 2010 14:16

Новик wrote:Bold
Humpty Baltay

Mmmmm....
They practice what some do?
Or so purely to talk for life?
Novik, no such "terrible" secrets club there. For the life of you can talk here. Just consider that people have gone into the other room.

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Post by Идущая вперед » Fri Jul 16, 2010 14:18

... looks like it won't rain :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

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Post by Malvina » Fri Jul 16, 2010 14:20

It can be.Peter promised, and then we will come. :)

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Post by Михаил_ » Fri Jul 16, 2010 15:37

Смелый wrote:, for Example, causes the birth of "conjoined twins", the birth of physically and mentally handicapped people. Where is the reason or the root?
The processes occurring in the world around us, it is much more complicated and multifaceted. So one of us is the doctor able to determine the cause (see the root) and assign proper treatment for the world around us?
Modern medicine, in my opinion namerenno made like this. And this is done very simply, one slowing, the other overclock :) as with clouds in General. Not able to assess the causes and concealment of some of them talking about the violation in a systematic approach, partly unintentional (decision-making built into the model and live in it), partially stimulated from the outside. (need methodology for the overall assessment and there are, as professionals, are not going away).
On the other hand the society has integrated two contradictory "truths". Democracy - every cook has the right to vote and the right to be President (though perhaps does not have an appropriate level of integration for understanding and managing the processes), but also in people's consciousness integrates and reverse the paradigm - not a "specialist - do not go." In the result, the vast majority of citizens of planet Earth, have a civic stand of the slave - "we camandule, and we'll do it again." Ie kind of parrot position, unfortunately. If these people hang as when you need to make your own decisions, they will try to find among themselves a leader, usually not on the principle of adequacy, and on the basis of ability, hard to manage and give into his hands. (watched it already).

Now we digress from socialnyh paradoksov.
In some ways the world is a superposition of the INNER worlds of people living together.
Their ideas about the world.
It's not absolutely, but within a certain gap.
So one person described that he needed to put the stove in the full moon, and a month on the weekends was a full moon (what nonsense), the area is relatively sparsely populated.
Moreover, his attention this was brought to his roommate, surprised by this phenomenon.

What am I?
People quite skillfully manipulated, creating one "projector" needed model of the world.
But in some cases, does not prevent to take responsibility for their area of residence itself, otherwise it may really happen some 2012 in favor of interested parties (believe me, the reasons for interest in such some have).
In this case, just a striking example - the involvement in personal power is never wrong. It can give not the same results and this is the experience. But if you have the strength for such an intervention, then got on him and powers. This is a simple and very affordable the law of nature.
If a couple billion people will want to change the weather, it will change the way you want.
It is likely that the current changes there is also someone else's intervention, it is possible - not authorized.
It is because "autopilot" - people on the ground used to be the audience and not control their "small" farms in the area of the personal residence.
At the same time, in my opinion often public expectations of the weather are used to try to manage it well.
This is a simple direct programming. Published forecast.
A huge mass of people waiting for him. Often it affects.
Not always.
Just carefully observe.

Some time ago, I was contacted by one man who claimed to represent a group of people who are able to control the weather across the planet.
More precisely at first it was about the predictions of anomalies and disasters, and to me was a question about fin markets (opportunities to earn on weather Fujairah), in the presence of such a forecast. However, during the discussion on the mail man (he wrote under a pseudonym) said that in fact it is not about forecasting, but about control. However, he complained that he offered money services group, and the subjects of Federation, heads of regions and many more who, with a proposal to fix those or other weather problems for the proper reward. Everywhere was sent to.
Then promised to arrange a small local tra-RA-RAM in the form supercolony winter, if memory serves 2007.
I went with him BIK. It seems the winter was too warm :)
In General, the discussion quickly stalled and differences in approaches to the world.
By the way this character is found by searching discussions on weather forums under the name Yakov Yakov.
A strange observation is that they are trying not to go into the territory of St. Petersburg. Either avoid conflict with the SMA or ...

Conclusion - in the passive position of most of the population, a man armed with a methodology that can switch the autopilot to manual control by having certain personal goals.
The correct position of the population at the same time - interference in natural processes in the area of personal power each(usually quite weak), all of which can give the desired correction.
The actual control of weather processes requires vyazaniya in algorithms, which occurs subconsciously, or intuitively, or deliberately, either way.
The effect still occurs but is weaker due to the construction of the world picture of the future.<

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Post by Михаил_ » Fri Jul 16, 2010 15:39

Идущая вперед wrote:... looks like it won't rain :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
but this is not the right idea - you need to think - "it seems tomorrow or the day after the rain and the cold will" :)
and the implementation takes time, the closer the event to the present, the harder it is for him to roll, especially if it is a far side from the intended path through which carries "the engine" of the present.

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Post by рыжая » Fri Jul 16, 2010 15:49

Михаил_ wrote:and the implementation takes time, the closer the event to the present, the harder it is for him to roll, especially if it is a far side from the intended path through which carries "the engine" of the present.
And why it is difficult to roll if it (the event) getting close?

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Post by Новик » Fri Jul 16, 2010 15:56

Michael,
But if you have the strength for such an intervention, then got on him and powers. This is a simple and very affordable the law of nature.
This is very good. a wonderful post Michael... here is a direct said that in my head and spun :)

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Novik, no such "terrible" secrets in the club no
I'm actually terrible secrets and don't expect to hear from you))))
Interested in any result do you have?
Ie Karl positioning(and rather aggressive view of his videos) these devices as devices that rather in the shortest time possible will help the user to achieve "Success"
In my understanding of Success is:
-financial freedom
-good health
-the realization themselves that you're interested in(music, art, work, people management etc.)
Actually the question that who has received from above?

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Post by Михаил_ » Fri Jul 16, 2010 15:58

try rushing a car to deploy to 90 degrees on a very small radius - it is likely to turn over.
A smoothly - please.
There are plenty of speed, and have the event somewhere on the side. It is impossible to immediately change course.
When we are talking about a large area - even more so.
And when talking about that involved the wishes of a huge number of people (after all, no one doubts that tired from the heat I wish it to stop), then averaged, and their desired, creating does not fit the picture. If they "drag" a little forward, they are there priznatsa and there is something to satisfy everyone.

Another simple example - the same radionica to influence a certain situation that will let's say a week (a week of time for the implementation of the rotation), but if you set the time interval ONE MINUTE, then nothing happens.
With the weather as well. Day for weather this moment, if we are not talking about one village. I'm oversimplifying of course, but the principle is the same.

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Post by Михаил_ » Fri Jul 16, 2010 16:04

Новик wrote: I'm actually terrible secrets and don't expect to hear from you))))
Interested in any result do you have?
Ie Karl positioning(and rather aggressive view of his videos) these devices as devices that rather in the shortest time possible will help the user to achieve "Success"
In my understanding of Success is:
-financial freedom
-good health
-the realization themselves that you're interested in(music, art, work, people management etc.)
Actually the question that who has received from above?
Novik, first of all I'm a standard member, I was not with radionica (well, you know what I use).
Secondly, I would suggest that all participants received the implementation of certain tasks from their devices and decided each other to help, that's the whole story.
That is what You write, always requires some time.
I have this implemented before the club.
But this does not mean that further nowhere to go.
Any process need objective time. Otherwise it will be too heavily destruction, even if the result will be.
How many Radionics sold here? Take, for example, the same health, which people first spoils decades, it is on regeneration methods requires a powerful, even still sometimes, well, or many months at least.
Results Yes, noticeable. Including health, including from radionica.
To idealize nothing.
It's not Walsh. wand - waved and began as you want.
This is the accelerator and amplifier of capacity and capability, but obviously still need time.

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