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Dear creators, dear sellers!!!!!
When will at least one link to the actual research device?
I in no way intend to question the competence of doctors who are fed around Alfarim, but read serious medical forums. Yes, mention of Alfaria here and there, but the experts are unanimous - this instrument is at best a PLACEBO.
Agree that paying for a placebo 8000 rubles-this is not good.
Here take for example the domestic drug afobazole. As the medication experts and consumers are mostly also positioned at the level of placebo, but this drug though there are a number of domestic research, really low, not like the ones conducted in the West and published in PubMed. But under these studies was signed by serious people and the seals trained a lot, but in the West this medication do not recognize, because serious research has not been conducted.
And Alfaria nothing at all or inventors all hid from the people?

Here it is necessary to look truth in the eye, comrades with "Psychotronics" over making money, this business need to feed the family and therefore by mind machines (good thing I admit) sell really never not normally the subject of the research and write the reviews themselves coming up with (advertising the motor trade). Also with great somenum I treat parlor are different, also the advertising painted there. In my opinion standing there maynd machines and drives.

Please check the IP of this individual. In the "working" branch, one like the maniac with a split personality already figured out.

Please check the IP of this individual. In the "working" branch, one like the maniac with a split personality already figured out.

those who write from different names, as a rule, use anonymous proxy servers

And then it began...
ALTARIA is a medical device receiving melitensia is not easy.No it will not "nasleduemoe the subject".
And how can you write about the "placebo",when he felt a few seconds after application?
On the website of goods among the only headphones yet escaped the label placebo

Andrey Kabanov
This is a deliberate entry of misleading consumers into, on the basis of disorders associated with a categorical rejection of new ideas and a desire to undermine the reputation of "Psychotronics". Futile attempts

Merkaba
Or competitors, or who wants to become them

МерКаБа wrote:please Check the IP of this individual. In the "working" branch, one like the maniac with a split personality already figured out.

It's my IP you want to check?
Please check, I can even here his voice. Doing stupid things Mr. dear.
But the chorus of "endorsing" gentlemen may come from one or several IP-shnik.
The Merkaba is a clear raspostranitel and therefore the person concerned.

Андрей Кабанков wrote:And then it began...
ALTARIA is a medical device receiving melitensia is not easy.No it will not "nasleduemoe the subject".
And how can you write about the "placebo",when he felt a few seconds after application?
On the website of goods among the only headphones yet escaped the label placebo

Dear Andrey Kabanov,
so you bring these studies, if they exist in nature, and that is not serious work - just talk.
If to your ears to pick up the terminal from the car battery, you'll also get a sense of his actions after a few seconds.

Dimas wrote:Merkaba
Or competitors, or who wants to become them

Dear Dimas,
I could swear the most terrible oaths, their health and children that the competitors have nothing to do and are not going to have, so do not lead people astray.
In addition, your business is not going to break, and just want to get answers to their questions.
I really learned many specialists, your device may be at best a placebo. Reviews of multiple distributors and other individuals lured published on your zainteresovanim the forum will agree it is not the topic.
Read for yourself serious health forums can't be so wrong so many professionals who believe your device completely useless.
Now, if there was serious research, I'd your device bought Sanchez. word.

And I would buy as already bought Iner, but alfaria very large doubt, just reading the many testimonials that the thing is clearly of dubious origin. And you Dimas that just do not try this all over super and potency and all that is possible, do not so clearly advertise ridiculously also comes.

Russian people
Eh..vows-vows it is strange that you learned from the experts and how? Method TES a placebo?-I'm sorry...or what ALTARIA is TES?-also...there are certificates and other-other documentation which confirms this. To buy it even in our country it is almost impossible, because all that concerns medical equipment - checks very seriously. About medforum and stuff...What sane physician would be to deprive yourself of bread? it's like the story of e-cigarettes, which are really the best way to give up tobacco (if we're talking about nicotinecontaining therapy), and tobacco and pharmaceutical companies specializing in nicotinecontaining therapy order crushing articles and even studies against this innovation, otherwise they'll just be without pants - it's very simple.
Александр78
Well, Yes, I agree, too emotionally, I react to what I like, more I will not..."don't ask, don spasiva.." - as they say...

Русский народ wrote: The Merkaba is a clear raspostranitel and therefore the person concerned.

I just don't want people not having a clue about this unit, misled people who this device can greatly help. As he helped my best friends and myself. Try it, then speak. Everyone who came to see me at least one session, said that of all the things I bought (mindmachine, echofon, front room, and more), ALTARIA first in their effectiveness.
Here and so.

Merkaba
Here I agree. The effect is seen (felt) IMMEDIATELY in a few seconds with the device and is quite noticeable.

I'd like to see the Protocol of the clinical tests and sanitary-epidemiological conclusion on the safety "Alfaria" - and it's all empty ringing - You say that You have all the necessary documentation, but alas, when You call something in response, only "Everything is on the website"

it device Alfaria and not any other

Pavel
1) This method of TES known and applied in Russia for a long time, in particular through such devices as Lenar and Transair, these devices You can see in many major clinics. The one thing is the innovativeness of the device ALTARIA, is in its portability and affordability for almost every person to have his home, also in brain stimulation through electrodes-clips, to be worn on earlobes.
2) New advertising law prohibits to put on the websites of the protocols of medical research. If there is a compulsion to review the Protocol, You can do it, reaching the office of the manufacturer "Alfaria" after February 24, located at the address, Moscow, street 10-Parkovaya, d,18. OOO "Promkapital".

Dimas wrote:New law on advertising forbids to put on the websites of the protocols of medical research

Wow, by the way, I wonder why?
This somehow motivated?

Humpty Baltay
But who knows, we don't explain I suspect to have copied or to avoid any other fraudulent activity.

That is, You have it !
Respected Dimas then please send it to me at the email address : medkonsl@rambler.ru
- When you purchase would have to send them along with ALTARIA

Pavel
You can do it, reaching the office of the manufacturer "Alfaria" after February 24, located at the address, Moscow, street 10-Parkovaya, d,18. OOO "Promkapital".
And only read. And I personally do not have it yet. Read above.

In this case You have to return the purchased products, what Bank transfer

because medical equipment in addition to reg.ID and the certificate of conformity (they for some reason on the website posted - paradox) should be the Protocol of clinical trials and sanitary-epidemiological conclusion on the safety - otherwise he should not potenziruetsa as a medical device

Pavel
Please, You have the right to do it within 2 weeks (although, incidentally, return and exchange of medical devices of appropriate quality is not possible because they are included in the List of non-food goods of proper quality not subject to return or exchange for similar goods of other size, shape, size, style, colour or package (app. the resolution of the Government of the Russian Federation
as of January 19, 1998 N 55), but we can go in this case to meet You. Device and packaging must be marketable to be safe and sound, fully loaded.

Pavel
You don't understand me?? It is impossible to set a Protocol for medical research. Certificates and and certificates don't apply to them
Please give a link where it clearly should be spelled out (the law) that the seller med. techs need to give the customer all the protocols in the sale.
On the penultimate page of the manual number of the device. You can get acquainted with the data on it including.
technical requirements;
security requirements;
the requirements of environmental protection;
rules of acceptance;
control methods;
transportation and storage;
instructions;
the manufacturer's warranty.