The sauces!!! or when,how and with whom!;)

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Tue May 22, 2007 11:54

Friends!I propose in this thread to share the experience with a mind-machine,but rather...In what physical, mental and emotional state You are in, usually when working with the machine.To know the state BEFORE and AFTER application of the device. The experiments and observations. For example: (describe your experience)
I usually listen to a session right after bedtime,or before dinner when I get home from work...For me it is the opportunity to regenerate and come back to normal..Usually dive very deep (i.e. failures)...Condition by listening I get about 7-10 minutes..RARELY do I do on days when I'm fully rested and not sleepy (in the morning)...But...I Decided to change my tactics with this device...for me it was Very unexpected (nice),that waking up this morning,I decided to eat Breakfast first done charging (many times push-UPS in a number of approaches,summer W

),and only then lay down with r2 (relaxation)...I went NUTS!!!!Even with clear points and weak LEDs (imagine the shame.imotichey even at a Premium to fork out) I have THESE pictures gone,that LSD is resting

!!!And a complete sense of immersion in 3D space...to be Honest,it has never been more...I don't know what is the reason,but the inner sensations to this effect was facilitated by physical exertion...Then began to compare the facts,and really,when I'm relaxed and tired,there is little chance to watch "cartoons"when something is dragged,I panagias was pootilla - is another matter!!!And as a few different..lightness,clarity of thought,clarity of perception..But...in the subway was attacked by a fit of aggression,aimed at "the guard" (bitch),oldvillage me a beautiful suede shoes...
Friends,have You noticed something similar?Maybe something else was noticed?!Share!Together, we are th-th-th,move mountains!!!

I would very much like to this post I commented on Andrei Patrushev. Can he tell me why that happens?!

Pavel · Post by **Pavel** » Tue May 22, 2007 12:17

To say something.
Always at night I put the primary drive listening (now "massage brain") - listening to disc turned on and off in 1-1. 5 hours.
Sport visit the club for a long time - almost a year. If after it put something from ro1 - r07, that lying is also off and the body rests.
If the day in a good mood (ate, drank, went to the toilet, sat on the balcony), put i02 - sitting in an easy chair and saying to himself "look at the sea" and see the sea - "look at the galaxy" and see the galaxy - of course I have to concentrate, no relaxation.
In principle, to examine the nature of the me machine is not necessary, just go into the woods.

But just at night (when sleeping you do not want) to close my eyes and glancing up to see flora, after a couple of minutes will appear the outlines of the trees and will be a welcome picture.

Pavel · Post by **Pavel** » Tue May 22, 2007 12:21

Dimas wrote:Friends,have You noticed something similar?Maybe something else was noticed?!Share!Together, we are th-th-th,move mountains!!! Very Happy Very Happy Razz

probably the case in the field of human - there are many layers - and while they all may be smooth and round, there will be all sorts of distortions.

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Tue May 22, 2007 12:26

Pavel wrote:
Dimas wrote:Friends,have You noticed something similar?Maybe something else was noticed?!Share!Together, we are th-th-th,move mountains!!! Very Happy Very Happy Razz
probably the case in the field of human - there are many layers - and while they all may be smooth and round, there will be all sorts of distortions.

Maybe not in this case!?

Лилка · Post by **Лилка** » Tue May 22, 2007 12:49

can you imagine how many you have then get views/posts/replicas/...???

It is as if:
the number of people
multiply by all their state,
you have to multiply by the number of disks which have the ability to listen
and multiply on their own perception of their condition, process
____________________________________________
total: "drop dead number of options")

and note 1. time of day 2.where a person lives, 3. environment... etc... etc...

GOOD LUCK IN SUCH HARD WORK.......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(and somewhere a bit bigger on the forum for this take) :!:

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Tue May 22, 2007 12:53

So..so this is required!!!:)))But instead of thinking about the immensity of this undertaking,You,Lily,could write that thread,with regards to the specified branches..

Раду Швец · Post by **Раду Швец** » Tue May 22, 2007 19:36

Dimas wrote:Friends!I propose in this thread to share the experience with a mind-machine

Dimas, I fully support your idea. When I get MM I will definitely share my experience.

лилия wrote:do you know how much you then get views/posts/replicas/...???

The bigger will be the information, the more people learn about the possibilities of MM. As for

лилия wrote:total: "drop dead number of options")

practice shows that in any case only a small handful of people active, the other "observers".

Лилка · Post by **Лилка** » Wed May 23, 2007 7:21

...your right!!!

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Wed May 23, 2007 11:47

[/quote] experience shows that in any case only a small handful of people active, the other "observers".[/quote]

That's for sure!Sorry...I would even say observers and obsuzhdateli!!

Димитрий · Post by **Димитрий** » Wed May 23, 2007 11:56

Hello!
Please tell me, so we can say the problem is... I Have NO home secluded places (little kid

). What should I do?

I am sure I am not alone, share your experiences (Balcony-loggia-veranda no

).

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Wed May 23, 2007 12:02

Dimitri..Well, just do not know..do Not consider for mockery...And,sorry, toilet?Or bathroom?Well, do baby with You all the time...can't You ask someone from home,so they took it on time for Your classes??I'm working with a typewriter in the office,among the cries,phone calls and fermentations employees for coffee, etc at home Though,thank God, in peace and quiet..

Димитрий · Post by **Димитрий** » Wed May 23, 2007 12:19

Dimas wrote:Dimitri..Well, just do not know..do Not consider for mockery...And,sorry, toilet?Or bathroom?Well, do baby with You all the time...can't You ask someone from home,so they took it on time for Your classes??I'm working with a typewriter in the office,among the cries,phone calls and fermentations employees for coffee, etc at home Though,thank God, in peace and quiet..

At work I don't even know what to do, constant calls, people wander - "give it, give it, give me a call back, you call"... toilet-bathroom... also an option, but how "complete relaxation"?

Damn it, the toilet just will not give... the Baby's...

And the bathroom? And suddenly get a machine with all devices? Except that in an empty bathroom

...

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Wed May 23, 2007 12:24

Димитрий wrote:
Dimas wrote:Dimitri..Well, just do not know..do Not consider for mockery...And,sorry, toilet?Or bathroom?Well, do baby with You all the time...can't You ask someone from home,so they took it on time for Your classes??I'm working with a typewriter in the office,among the cries,phone calls and fermentations employees for coffee, etc at home Though,thank God, in peace and quiet..
At work I don't even know what to do, constant calls, people wander - "give it, give it, give me a call back, you call"... toilet-bathroom... also an option, but how "complete relaxation"? Damn it, the toilet just will not give... the Baby's... And the bathroom? And suddenly get a machine with all devices? Except that in an empty bathroom ...

Oops!Idea!!Never was in the tub with the machine..I will try the other day..Wrap it tightly,lay it down on a piece of up polyfoam-let floats and does not restrict me..Just need a holder for the head in order not to drown:)!

Димитрий · Post by **Димитрий** » Wed May 23, 2007 12:46

Sure! To prihvatiti what that shelf in the bathroom for the typewriter, and simply not gain... but it's like...

ШДен · Post by **ШДен** » Wed May 23, 2007 13:41

I had been writing I have in the bathroom to listen to the relaxation session.
The machine had offered next to the washing machine wire long - stretched under its own weight and not fall into the water. But then compare - just lying on the sofa with a machine - relax better. And in the bathroom I cars now sickly relax (love the water if times a day don't lie down in the bathroom, feeling like shit).
Damn due to repair for a thousand years is not lying in the bathroom

Direct wrote these lines and imagined how I relax in the water

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Wed May 23, 2007 13:46

Does anyone have the experience of listening sessions on the nature...?The sea?What are your impressions?

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 12:03

On the weekend, went out finally to nature,invited to the country.Took machine and regular glasses with transparent glasses,the brightness of only 300 candles,if I remember correctly.If you remember,on Sunday it was raining hard (at least outside the city,in the district of Zvenigorod)...So,it was raining,ran into the house (it was cool) and stared at the TV.Sitting at home I do not particularly like,I took the machine and went to the gazebo Included a session I2,and sat with open eyes,watched the rain and the sky...Awesome!!!Such feelings and perceptions I never had...Like the sky and the rain poured out of me that I am one with them...birds,trees,the air,the smells,the grass...the air was like thick,had the feeling that I drink it while breathing...After that, I almost didn't say anything,and decided to write just now...

Dima · Post by **Dima** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 14:03

Yesterday I experienced a very unpleasant news, was just so unsettled.My appetite was gone, his head was negative. Wanted to forget, to go to bed and Wake up tomorrow To do..went to bed and turned on the Healing. Instead of go to sleep got the opposite effect, absolutely clear consciousness and completely missing the desire to fall asleep..had to get up and hour stupidly stick into the TV.

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 13:22

Somehow best on my machine acts when I feel sick..in a bad Mood or the bad weather...After relaxational session a state of "quiet happiness and peace"...and Vice versa,when I feel good,fun,courage and playfulness - from the machine only wants to sleep...Said:if it is raining outside,condition after operation MRE-still fantastic!!!Best at stopping the internal dialogue and focus on the recitation of mantras (matirovanie,so to speak

)..
Friends,Colleagues,Friends!!!Why are You silent?!Share,You like?!!!

Dima,this is from the CD "Healing" may well be...first Try to work with relaxation sessions on the machine...In my opinion they sleep much better.

Dima · Post by **Dima** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 14:06

"Dima,is from the CD "Healing" may well be...first Try to work with relaxation sessions on the machine...In my opinion they sleep much more efficiently."

You only have to buy this machine...)
I think for 10 days this issue will be resolved.

Джим · Post by **Джим** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:11

Dimas!

cool theme... Especially if someone would have shared how he/she solved a particular problem (not the type of OBE, and the normalization of sleep, for example, but not limited to)... To begin with-on sleeping (in terms NP100, Izv.) Almost all hypnotics session instead of the expected effect of causing severe annoyance -- "BW daily time spent... and tomorrow. How to fall asleep today?"
And was very surprised that for someone S03 (NP100) was a panacea... And for me the cure was d11 - and only she. (There at the end of the wake-up in alpha -- very helpful before the end. to sleep to remove your glasses and headphones.
Exchange of experience MB. continue in exchange for any other real experience.
Sorry.

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:18

Джим wrote:Dimas!

cool theme... Especially if someone would have shared how he/she solved a particular problem (not the type of OBE, and the normalization of sleep, for example, but not limited to)... To begin with-on sleeping (in terms NP100, Izv.) Almost all hypnotics session instead of the expected effect of causing severe annoyance -- "BW daily time spent... and tomorrow. How to fall asleep today?"
And was very surprised that for someone S03 (NP100) was a panacea... And for me the cure was d11 - and only she. (There at the end of the wake-up in alpha -- very helpful before the end. to sleep to remove your glasses and headphones.
Exchange of experience MB. continue in exchange for any other real experience.
Sorry.

See, it's the theta state induced by mindmachine with great difficulty and after a fair amount of exercise, and stimulation in the Delta band is only increasing cerebral blood flow, which can be the opposite effect. So once again strongly recommend everyone to start with the alpha sessions. Classes with alpha sessions very quickly normalize sleep.

Джим · Post by **Джим** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 0:42

See, it's the theta state induced by mindmachine with great difficulty and after a fair amount of exercise, and stimulation in the Delta band is only increasing cerebral blood flow, which can be the opposite effect. So once again strongly recommend everyone to start with the alpha sessions. Classes with alpha sessions very quickly normalize sleep.

This is a very interesting question. Training doing. At about 7 months. Naturally, the alpha has passed, and seem to have passed. And upper theta too. On -- the difficulties, I hope to surpass (the author of the methods, from whom I borrowed nick, writes that, theoretically, we need long-term training).
NP100 slightly violated in the process -- I especially bought glasses, and the beta session (E05, for example) -- it's a while worked better than a Cup of coffee... But. In General, from the beta sessions I personally refused. And continue to practice...
I'm not quite sure that the alpha session, is able to normalize sleep, i.e., when (1) the body is screaming that "this cigarette would have fallen asleep to" (2) constant stress at work (3) favorite neurologist prescribed phenazepam (in the spring) and I like a fool (never more!!!) took 50 days on the pill, approx. recommendations (veryas I now understand, has damaged the achievements in the "lowering" of frequencies...)
And the question-what is Z-session? i.e. "built by the rules of the Golden section"? It seems that Andrei Patrushev mentioned those in connection with the issue of inaccessibility Delta state?
I apologize for the confusion.

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 12:54

Don't know what a Z-session, but the Z-rhythms (second and decisecond) I when you create your sessions and disc use. The fact that this whole (relatively fast) brain activity - alpha, beta, theta, Delta are not very specific for the different States. In fact, in any state all these waves are present. At the same time verhotina Z-activity is very specific and, as I found out, quite successfully can be specified through the periphery (hearing and vision).

Сперанца · Post by **Сперанца** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 23:07

Dima

Dima wrote:Instead of go to sleep got the opposite effect, absolutely clear consciousness and completely missing the desire to sleep..

There was such 1 time for Healing. Surprised.
Usually I go out quickly. Dream.

I am now with a little machine work, as every night Healing me. I fall asleep quickly, sleep soundly, but like crazy Wake up at 5 -5.30 am.
Don't know how to adjust.

On the machine I Sese r07 like. I have it in the beginning is always colored in pink glasses with white LEDs:)

One time I tried session E. Cheered:)

Actually, I have read and I do a lot of your words is unclear.
For example:

Джим wrote:the alpha took place, and seem to have passed. And upper theta too.

How is he the alpha??

Джим wrote: unreachable Delta state

This is a such a state??

I have a feeling that you all have some special feeling, and I have the most common. So you know some secret that I know