Mindmachine feedback and EEG

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Mindmachine feedback and EEG

Post by Юра88 » Wed Jul 06, 2016 1:59

Hello.Not the first year watching the development mindmachine especially firms photosonix. Bought inner pulse. At the expense of equipment surprised her wretchedness.The device is usable and working. BUT!!As modern technologies of electronics it looks like a cassette player in the 90s.!Really hard to take and really develop a quality product?The same Navigator...well, what he actually in fact better Innerpulse?more programs ... USB port...the use of this zero. He does the same thing..and what not better. Here on kickstarter project launched http://hitech.vesti.ru/news/view/id/9205 . Why not synthesize this with mindmachines?Add more light stimulation...and every meditation receive feedback + automatically adjust the frequency of the resonance which will record EEG..and so on, In this direction you can create a suitable device.!And for the price these headphones with EEG sensor cheaper Navigator...Photosonix ... ow...you went to the street and looked at what the current scientific world is??Well at least not on the tube transistors rivet their devices. I hope in the coming years at the same kickstarter launched something similar in the direction of the technique of meditation. We need to do research...a meditative state can be stimulated not only by sound and light...but this is not about photosonix probably that they have created something worthwhile and not kazetnik the level of Soviet electronics.

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Re: Mindmachine feedback and EEG

Post by димыч » Wed Jul 06, 2016 10:05

somewhere wrote the amount at which the cost of developing Navigator, you are ready to pay 2-3 million for the development and certification of their hotelok?
even the Chinese do not sell mind machines, because the market is small, when the money will be recovered?

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Re: Mindmachine feedback and EEG

Post by мимоходом » Wed Jul 06, 2016 10:15

hmm... the market is small, but the prices are quite a ))

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Re: Mindmachine feedback and EEG

Post by димыч » Wed Jul 06, 2016 10:31

well if they bought at least as mixers and microwave ovens and would cost they are much cheaper)

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Re: Mindmachine feedback and EEG

Post by Юра88 » Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:49

headphone Melomind requested on kickstarter 50 thousand euros. and already gathered 170тыс. Some 2 - 3 million?Here's a project requested 50 thousand and you need 2 to 3 million..to add more module which will automatically change the frequency parameters of EEG... and make the design of the human)it is Clear that the market is small due to the fact that no standing device.Any people would like the idea of such a device which would have reduced his stress....increased productivity...but that person had not lost interest he must have a feedback device..the same EEG is something...the sensor is not so expensive... to add EEG in MM.

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Re: Mindmachine feedback and EEG

Post by мимоходом » Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:52

Yuri, can you purchase the interface, for example here

http://www.i3412.com/nejjro-garnitura-N ... lja-PC.php

or many other equivalents.

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Re: Mindmachine feedback and EEG

Post by димыч » Wed Jul 06, 2016 12:14

Юра88 I prices in rubles gave, put 50,000 euros into rubles

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Re: Mindmachine feedback and EEG

Post by Андрей Кабанков » Wed Jul 06, 2016 12:34

The demand is actually now on the mind of the machine is not great.
With the onset of the crisis completely stopped the sale on the contracts that were made in previous years, the bulk of the sales.
Module this can be done in the new generation of Pathfinder, and he's provided, but it is not in the near future.
In the beginning we put out a Lite version of Navigator, it now deals with the developer.
Ie all it is , but a few frozen.
At the current level of demand, in my opinion, it is easier to prodavati same Melomind when they are ready. Than to do its own production. Bought-sold and no worries :)

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Re: Mindmachine feedback and EEG

Post by Андрей Кабанков » Wed Jul 06, 2016 13:06

As for Photosonics, is really a range of models have not been updated, although that doesn't make their products worse than the other.
Navigator, our proprietary product, we just sell it under the brand name photosonic.
The site presents and have a mind machine two other manufacturers, so there is a choice.
6 models from four manufacturers, is enough for the moment.

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Re: Mindmachine feedback and EEG

Post by Юра88 » Thu Jul 07, 2016 0:50

Thanks for all the replies regarding this topic.! On account of the neurointerface thank you very much)you Can try to buy and experiment with it:)

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Re: Mindmachine feedback and EEG

Post by мимоходом » Thu Jul 07, 2016 1:13

to maximize the full EEG model EPOC is better - but it is generally prohibitive in terms of a minute of pampering, plus pay (though certainly comparable with some "magical" artifacts)

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Re: Mindmachine feedback and EEG

Post by Юра88 » Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:48

Here is a very interesting device for less regulations the price:)https://www.mindtecstore.com/en/shop/in ... -83-detail

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Re: Mindmachine feedback and EEG

Post by димыч » Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:09

passing I have a headset mindsky, many paid software, good monitors a state of meditation and concentration, the reaction on the blink. But overall it's a device for entertainment, and was Emotiv Epoc, it is much restricted in software than Emotiv EEG, only differences in the firmware, which was done by the manufacturer for $300.
cognitive abilities as I noticed myself well developed training wikium.ru

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Re: Mindmachine feedback and EEG

Post by мимоходом » Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:27

the fact of the matter is that to spend such sums on short-term entertainment is not very desirable... on the other hand it would be interesting to study the various internal state from the point of view changes in brain rhythms.
And vicium is a very good website, I go regularly

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Re: Mindmachine feedback and EEG

Post by Андрей Патрушев » Thu Jul 07, 2016 13:14

All this search for the proverbial magic pill. Instead of regularly to do with a fairly effective device, which now is available... :?

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Re: Mindmachine feedback and EEG

Post by мимоходом » Thu Jul 07, 2016 14:08

It's not really about the efficiency of the device, and the assessment of their own performance, the possibility to compare their condition with his own, and perhaps with others. So, for example, described alpha,theta,Delta was not just words - but one could clearly see the man - that, has reached the alpha or theta state while it is something is achieved-so.

At the same voliume - excellent the rating scale of their success, this person wants to say, and not about the freebies and the magic tablet...

However, neurohereditary should help

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Re: Mindmachine feedback and EEG

Post by Юра88 » Thu Jul 07, 2016 15:47

мимоходом wrote:It's not really about the efficiency of the device, and the assessment of their own performance, the possibility to compare their condition with his own, and perhaps with others. So, for example, described alpha,theta,Delta was not just words - but one could clearly see the man - that, has reached the alpha or theta state while it is something is achieved-so.

At the same voliume - excellent the rating scale of their success, this person wants to say, and not about the freebies and the magic tablet...

However, neurohereditary should help
Nice to read when there are people who are imbued with what meaning you wanted to convey in the published topic. It would be cool if someone did a project where integrated MM interface making barefoot with the intelligent tuning of the device to the EEG of meditators.

in passing, in your opinion what can you say about-Neuro-Hoop MUSE ? Like that they have the assessment of the EEG for further recommendations, working with the device.

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Re: Mindmachine feedback and EEG

Post by мимоходом » Thu Jul 07, 2016 17:54

didn't try any of these headsets, though would like to try in theory - very interesting. Understand that the more sensors the more accurate the readings of meters... Also, obviously you need to learn to read on schedule rhythms of the brain, that is, to master the basic knowledge of EEG

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Re: Mindmachine feedback and EEG

Post by Malvina » Thu Jul 07, 2016 18:38

Юра88 wrote:in your opinion what can you say about-Neuro-Hoop MUSE ? Like that they have the assessment of the EEG for further recommendations, working with the device.
I haven't tried it, but found that the program has recommendations on the Russian language.... :?

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Re: Mindmachine feedback and EEG

Post by Юра88 » Thu Jul 07, 2016 23:20

Instructions to read in English not a problem:)

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