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LUCID DREAMING

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 16:51
by ВИТЯ
QUESTION is it POSSIBLE USING a MIND MACHINE to GO TO the ASTRAL plane (OR as it is now called conscious dreaming)

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 17:00
by Dimas
VICTOR
Can :?

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 17:09
by ВИТЯ
machete to throw a link or napechatal how to do it--a brand new to use a mind machine(like me)will help significantly bc

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 17:47
by ВИТЯ
something worthwhile I found 6-7 page forum topic "mind machines" also on the second page http://www.mindmachine.ru/viewtopic.php?t=91 bc

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 18:10
by ВИТЯ
PEOPLE WRITE HERE ALL THAT CONCERNS the astral by using a MIND MACHINE .....I know what the manual is talking about it but not the fact that everything works

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 18:15
by Dimas
VICTOR
Here's the thing,Victor, MM a bit is not designed for this, but the systematic training with the device OS or astral projections are possible as a nice side effect. And remember, the more You want,the less likely it is to :)

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:01
by ВИТЯ
and they write that the stronger the intention and the motivation the easier it is to get into the OS

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:33
by Dimas
VICTOR
Well...how shall I say...a strong intention and motivation with the desire are two different things, especially working with the OS etc. etc. I'll Try to explain. The desire,particularly strong is when you really want,but this would be unattainable or attainable with great difficulties, and the intention of this expectation is desired with an accurate KNOWLEDGE of what is desired will happen,but without reference to the desired. That is want not wanting :)

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 14:34
by ВИТЯ
Dimas .well, I agree .it's not a gift for the New Year :)

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 14:38
by Dimas
VICTOR
Yeah, so, the highest skill is to learn how to turn desire into intention :)

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 15:18
by ВИТЯ
Dimas wrote:VICTOR
Yeah, so, the highest skill is to learn how to turn desire into intention
using machine .and then without it(at how clever I am :)

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 15:59
by Dimas
VICTOR
well, MM maybe this well help, but the Central figure in this case is Yourself :) and desire and intention :?

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 17:09
by ВИТЯ
Dimas wrote:VICTOR
well, MM maybe this well help, but the Central figure in this matter is Yourself and Your desire and intention
Yes, I know. none of you work does not do ...mm is like a good staff to climb the hill .and about intention , desire, and transformation of one to the other I already know well enough