LUCID DREAMING

ВИТЯ · Post by **ВИТЯ** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 16:51

QUESTION is it POSSIBLE USING a MIND MACHINE to GO TO the ASTRAL plane (OR as it is now called conscious dreaming)

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 17:00

VICTOR
Can

ВИТЯ · Post by **ВИТЯ** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 17:09

machete to throw a link or napechatal how to do it--a brand new to use a mind machine(like me)will help significantly

ВИТЯ · Post by **ВИТЯ** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 17:47

something worthwhile I found 6-7 page forum topic "mind machines" also on the second page http://www.mindmachine.ru/viewtopic.php?t=91

ВИТЯ · Post by **ВИТЯ** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 18:10

PEOPLE WRITE HERE ALL THAT CONCERNS the astral by using a MIND MACHINE .....I know what the manual is talking about it but not the fact that everything works

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 18:15

VICTOR
Here's the thing,Victor, MM a bit is not designed for this, but the systematic training with the device OS or astral projections are possible as a nice side effect. And remember, the more You want,the less likely it is to

ВИТЯ · Post by **ВИТЯ** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:01

and they write that the stronger the intention and the motivation the easier it is to get into the OS

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:33

VICTOR
Well...how shall I say...a strong intention and motivation with the desire are two different things, especially working with the OS etc. etc. I'll Try to explain. The desire,particularly strong is when you really want,but this would be unattainable or attainable with great difficulties, and the intention of this expectation is desired with an accurate KNOWLEDGE of what is desired will happen,but without reference to the desired. That is want not wanting

ВИТЯ · Post by **ВИТЯ** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 14:34

Dimas .well, I agree .it's not a gift for the New Year

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 14:38

VICTOR
Yeah, so, the highest skill is to learn how to turn desire into intention

ВИТЯ · Post by **ВИТЯ** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 15:18

Dimas wrote:VICTOR
Yeah, so, the highest skill is to learn how to turn desire into intention

using machine .and then without it(at how clever I am

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 15:59

VICTOR
well, MM maybe this well help, but the Central figure in this case is Yourself

and desire and intention

ВИТЯ · Post by **ВИТЯ** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 17:09

Dimas wrote:VICTOR
well, MM maybe this well help, but the Central figure in this matter is Yourself and Your desire and intention

Yes, I know. none of you work does not do ...mm is like a good staff to climb the hill .and about intention , desire, and transformation of one to the other I already know well enough