A sharp choice between Your best MM: and MindSpa InnerPulse.

Мышаня · Post by **Мышаня** » Tue May 19, 2009 2:20

The purchase and use of MM for me - first, still frustrated by the experience. Much want to believe in the possibilities of this device and I'm willing to try and it's not the amount of money. Task - to choose a really effective, user-friendly machine with a choice, upgrade, functionality, innovation, facilities, etc.

Acute purely practical tasks on personal priorities:
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1) Training (improvement of attention and memory, massive volumes of reading methods of fast reading, NLP, effective techniques with the aim of self-improvement, etc.)
2) Relaxation (after peregruzka for emotional stress and stress, heavy exercise, use during sleep for the effect of improving the quality and reducing the number of required hours)
3) gaining peace and emotional equilibrium (a stable smooth emotional and spiritual level, help to enter in meditative state with eyes open, etc.)

Travel "to other worlds", the development of imagination and vision "kaleidoscope", search "bright journey" and "killing time" are now not interested.

Over the week while you read a lot and looked at many cars, especially in two: and MindSpa InnerPulse.
Description device capabilities on your sites and off sites, including comparative pictures about "convenience wires", YouTube, wikipedia, oppositional articles, etc. Dealt in.

Of course, if it were possible to find a good glasses and sensible programa (SOFTWARE) to connect to the laptop - that would be the best option, because:
1) I work with PC more than 12 hours a day and I would be just convenient and cheaper to buy the device and points would not have caused the issue "and what am I doing at work?" (tell me PC points pliz).
2) the program is, by definition, always expanding and has good properties of flexibility, support, bug fixes, possibility of extension, quality samples, editors, Internet support, etc. some algorithms generealy signals at points when digitizing, etc. - in General the richest opportunities.

BUT! Your forum helped to figure out what the right audiostrobe decoder (which in many glasses there) and the device points to obtain the desired effect, besides the imperfection or "elaborate" software solutions often questionable... OK. - began to look for "Iron option".

Notable harderner device found 3:
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1) Neurotronics Laxman Innertainment Light and Sound Mind Machine - a complete solution with a music player (by the way the site is not found references with critical comments on it - removed?). For relaxation I could continue to sleep comfortably, to study with open eyes is not appropriate and, as I understand it, there are no compatible points "with open eyes". Do doubt is that points truly UNIFORMLY illuminated with such an incredible number of different colors (more than 20 colors in ColorTrack) and the fact that this is a Mind-Machine and then a mp3 player and not the player with feature points (although you write that audio-gate supports and converts to mp3 in a special way...) Also, not found someone to sell this device in Moscow and in Russia... Then, in order to try - MB. really expensive, though... if in the hands twirl...

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2) MindSpa - has no internal player, you need an external audio source (and it is certainly computer - well, not funny is it?).
BUT! Reputable recommended cool uncle with NLP, stylish design (to give a girl not ashamed), "verified" 16 programs, connectivity to PC via USB (AND NOT AS InnerPulse via RS-232 is a complete "nonsense", etc... - *omitted by the censor). Like the ability to upload new MM programs that appear on the site for a coin.. Constant upgrades (this is the 6th version of the device with improved sound). Great open points (SHARPENED by open eyes, able to cover

), separate blue glasses, very bright and "properly" scientific way

LEDs are located). "Interatsiya" with such programs as Neuro Programmer.
Ability to load new presets (?).

3) InnerPulse against this background, even with a 65 (at MindSpa 16) presets fades.
very old element and technological base, which in fact no one does. No upgrades, etc. Devices have already mnooogo years. Glasses are expensive and cause doubt its effectiveness of these points with competitors. The statement that "Prosonix vbuhali a lot of money in the development of these technologies MM" is now not worth a damn - does the oscilloscope and is the same preset on another device that's best-selling and technically superior...
And, given that the product is not developed then InnerPulse deep behind.

THEREFORE QUESTIONS:
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1) do expandable and VALUABLE in terms of Mindmachine (frequency, beats, noises, etc.): how MindSpa InnerPulse (even if not in the number of programs and functionality at least at the comparison table here: http://www.mindmachine.ru/articles/table.htm and functional table:
http://www.mindmachine.ru/photosonix/innerpulse.htm

2) Why MindSpa not a favorite on this forum devices and when there will be presets for MindSpa not just for InnerPulse?<

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue May 19, 2009 5:20

In order to fully and competently answer all your questions, you need to fuck and to play with all 3 of the above machines. Alas, many are deprived of that luxury.

I here to myself bought at the beginning of a Mind-Spa (although I wanted a fancy Interpolis) and very happy. Simple, stylish, convenient, no extra wires and buttons. The integration with the computer is not much engaged. The lack of built-in audio player - the biggest neudobstvo this car, but it's there and Innerpulse.
On points me by the throat and lack the usual blue, need to buy white. Innerpulse - 'll see when they release the new version and if hands reach to do the car half an hour a day, and yet a Mind-Spa me enough time.

Идущая вперед · Post by **Идущая вперед** » Tue May 19, 2009 10:41

you can start to buy that a thread of a simple type inner pulse points of Kolor track once a lot of money (the alpha still on what to train) and wait UNTIL goes on SALE a PERFECT MIND MACHINE W... what is happening in the world wait to improve quality - appearance-retracting wires which confused all the time-integrated player-better wireless points well, etc. and still live in complete identity perfect headphones wireless and to have such awesome quality tapping was.... and all this for a normal-human price

Мышаня · Post by **Мышаня** » Tue May 19, 2009 10:49

Thanks for the reply. Yes, that's right, we online shoppers have to spend money to try and make mistakes. Developed countries, with Internet trading there is a possibility as a guaranteed refund for the product. Since we have this opportunity in the country not then you NEED to make a more serious comparison devices (namely the characteristics of MM).
FOR COMPARISON, the PROVISION of INFORMATION: that is, for examples a list of e-reading devices and their comparison tables, links to sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_e-book_readers
http://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/E-book_Reader_Matrix

The forum is, experts have...
Maybe I just missed somewhere a plate for MM?

This forum IS a great professionals who can provide expert comparative performance information (perhaps even with photos of the devices inside). They do MM PROFESSIONAL, they have EXPERIENCE and KNOWLEDGE, we understand better than us, they have the DEVICES THEMSELVES (so in case of emergency I would be willing to provide their learning for the common good).

The device is also the distributors of these products who are interested in their progress. I'm sure they, their family members and acquaintances already formed a SUBJECTIVE relationship to these products in a comparative operation.

Such resources on the Internet I have not found (maybe they still are?). Their authoritative opinion raising massive interest and increase the number of fans.

It is clear that the "ideal" device does not exist, but you definitely need to know the customers, strengths and weaknesses of the devices. The poet of fear and freedom is not necessary, pointing out strengths and weaknesses.
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Full table make it very difficult, I understand, but let's start with the comparison really the best devices from different manufacturers!<

Мышаня · Post by **Мышаня** » Tue May 19, 2009 10:55

Идущая вперед wrote:you can start to buy that a thread of a simple type inner pulse points of Kolor track once a lot of money (the alpha still on what to train) and wait UNTIL goes on SALE a PERFECT MIND MACHINE W... what is happening in the world wait to improve quality - appearance-retracting wires which confused all the time-integrated player-better wireless points well, etc. and still live in complete identity perfect headphones wireless and to have such awesome quality tapping was.... and all this for a normal-human price

I didn't say that a lot of money, "it's not about the money." "We are not too rich to buy cheap" and I don't have the time and desire to understand all Salecah and have their extensive collection of goal because the other...
(The fact of the matter is that to try for the money all devices in a row don't want, especially not understanding the quality characteristics MM. Needs wrote, doubt written.)

And WITH the PACE PERFECT MACHINE from Photosonix - just will not work, he krendets if he gets a job in the same style for another five years. But MindSpa is a chance that bring to mind..
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The QUESTION is: how MindSpa advanced in the properties of MM than Photosonix?

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Tue May 19, 2009 20:08

Mishana, take Innerpulse with red-blue glasses...

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Tue May 19, 2009 20:38

I agree

Мышаня · Post by **Мышаня** » Wed May 20, 2009 11:40

Andrei Patrushev: a long time discussing, shares purchased by all Your disks 13. Thank you for Your work.

Andrei Patrushev, Dimas:
Thanks for Your advice.

Yesterday I bought after the consultation of specialists of "Psychotronics" InnerPulse c ColorTrack (I suddenly categorically said "Prodem sets of closed points!", I am true and he was going

) and to study with open eyes took pvStim Premium.

the Main reasons for my choice indvidualno after the arguments of consultants:
- more versatile than MindSpa InnerPulse. At InnerPulse programs do significantly more than the MindSpa. Additional programs are available for download as a Nova Pro 100 and from the site (from time to time, makes A. Patrushev). For MindSpa you can buy on offsayte 4 "fancy" software training at$ 30 from Dr. Ruth Olmstead and Update the library (built-in session?) of 12 programs for MindSpa from the same doctor (these presets are already with the new MindSpa (MDS-12p) - free). Given the easy connection to PC and ability to download from various SOFTWARE, such as Neuro Programmer, you can wait for yourself and it is easy to generate a lot of sessions.) Application InnerPulse given the broader range again more universal for people with different vospriimchivosti to stimulate* (*see below)

- InnerPulse has a greater range in strength than the MindSpa. It is possible to achieve effect of use is much higher than the MindSpa. It was compared by consultantmy directly when alternate shift points with headphones. This is due to the brighter LEDs and their location further from perifericheskoi of view and closer to the center. Perhaps this is due to the more efficient sound programs* (*myself). The practice of application of the guys said that the effects of exactly perifericheskoi vision almost not noticeable and you could tell was not seen.

- At this particular current moment MM is better than the MindSpa InnerPulse.
Undoubtedly, the future of more technologically advanced devices like the Neurotronics Laxman Innertainment Light and Sound Mind Machine or at least MindSpa. The truth is they are in scope and power applications (*about the MindSpa and similar to it) is limited by the strength of the impact points and the professionalism of the compiled programs. the Most important thing in MMthat they were able to provide the required impact and sessions were designed by professionals strong both in theory and in practice to constantly collected, used and zarabatyval mass experience the use of these devices in clinical and personal trials.

So it turns out that the curve constructed body is blue with rubber blotches on technological inputs in the case InnerPulse is esstestvenno the choice of the Russian people. "The main thing to far and powerful shot! As AK-57" Girl it does not give, but take..

Here it is, the "first experience":
Today fell asleep at S01 c green light in ColorTrack. Special opened the window and the street noise is not heard. an Amazing event: get enough sleep during the week. Additional feelings: relaxed as the snake Kaa.<

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Wed May 20, 2009 14:28

Mishana
The best course ahead!

Человек · Post by **Человек** » Fri May 22, 2009 1:05

I would like using MM to achieve the following effects:
- improving operational and long-term memory;
- increased attention;
- resolution sleep (fully recover, and not as now the constant lack of sleep on weekdays and on weekends peresypi. In the end poor health. In the future I would like to train your body to get yourself in the right time, not the alarm);
- increase of intellectual abilities;
- improving communication skills (sometimes difficulties to Express their thoughts verbally).
- increase learning ability;
- increased mobility of mental processes (this effect can be achieved?)

Not so important, but still is of interest:
- improved recovery after sports training;
- the use of MM in teaching the skills of speed reading (coming soon seriously would like to do with this topic)
- relaxation;
- improving fine motor skills of hands.

Of little interest to flight of the imagination (I have it and works so well), i.e. all sorts of sensory feelings. Although I'd like as a bonus to all the above.
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Now the actual questions:
1) InnerPulse glasses + Standard for this purpose, suitable or still better InnerPulse glasses + Premium. And what color is better for me? On the forum and not found a satisfying answer me. White-because it contains all colors, or red and blue like you recommend Misane ? Please briefly explain your recommendations for the color selection.
2) is it Possible to return a MM if I feel no improvement, and in what time frame? (I'm not a resident of Moscow, i.e. I will order a courier delivery).

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Fri May 22, 2009 11:55

People
1.Better InnerPulse glasses + Premium. For Your purposes-white color.
2. No

Человек · Post by **Человек** » Fri May 22, 2009 12:43

And why white? I was asked to briefly explain the recommendations or give a link to the corresponding forum thread. Mishana you recommend red-blue, although the purpose of use in many respects I have the same.

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Fri May 22, 2009 13:00

People
http://www.mindmachine.ru/viewtopic.php?t=12&start=0
http://www.mindmachine.ru/viewtopic.php?t=1522&start=0

Гость · Post by **Гость** » Sat May 23, 2009 1:18

Please tell me where can I download the session "ZEN Super 7"and "Penetration into the void with ZOE Seven" on the LUMA 10.I have a inner Pulse.