The book on mind machines

Post by **Владимир Никонов 2** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 1:10

Did an online version of the book "Mind of the machine. Far technology AVS"
http://www.mindmachine.ru/book/index.htm

Джим · Post by **Джим** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 22:22

For the book -- Spa-si-Bo!

However, there are many issues in the relationship. The most important -- how do you find the Photosonix -- MM -- this is the real device for the ABC or "the device for entertainment"?
[I think the author of the book a little pogaryachilsya with this classification, and you, dear users? And anyway, the topic hangs, and no one speaks, which is unusual.]

CBB · Post by **CBB** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 0:30

Thank You,Vladimir!

даникто · Post by **даникто** » Wed Mar 04, 2009 14:06

But you can book as a single file in pdf or doc format?

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 16:08

Yes, this book is in the format you want daavno is already on the website...

Идущая вперед · Post by **Идущая вперед** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 16:25

and possible comments to the pictures to translate into Russian?

Post by **Владимир Никонов 2** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 20:43

Here is the archive doc:
http://www.koob.ru.mastertest.ru/books/ ... covery.zip

Джа · Post by **Джа** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 19:21

After reading this book I had vague doubts.
1. Points. The book speaks of the large and small fields of review. Specifically, the small is 4 LEDs in the center of the pupil. Large (full) is the OmniScreen glasses or that was probably 6 LEDs on the contour of the eye (e.g., points from MindSpa). What do we have from Photosonix? - Antediluvian glasses (so they opisyvayutsya in advertising MindSpa) with a small field of view.
2. Binaural beats.
"Oster (Oster) using the oscilloscope came to the conclusion that binaural beats produce very small evoked potential in the auditory region of the cerebral cortex, which means that they are ineffective for the production of SMV (sync brainwaves).
Foster (Foster), another researcher of binaural beats, found that binaural beats with alpha frequency waves produce no more brain waves such as the alpha, than hearing the sound of the surf.
However, in 1980, the Monroe Institute has popularized binaural beats under the trade mark "Hemisync". They sold tens of thousands of films and prompted others to produce films, and generators allegedly binaural signals with a claim to achieve an effective SMV."

Meaning, in this case, that monaurally rhythm is more effective. But in the sessions we have in osnovnom bb/dbb. That Photosonix deliberately vparivaet ineffective (and therefore more "harmless") session - no effects, no problem.

3. Synchronization of brain waves (CMB) and entertainment.
"Normally, the manifestation of the effect of SMV requires 6 minutes of stimulation at a frequency of alpha waves (the effective frequency)." The book contains sample sessions for the CMB and for entertainment. The example shows that the vast majority of sessions Photosonix have entertainment napravlennosti.

Total we have - a good car (like the Inner Pulse), shitty glasses (even if Premium, in light of the above on standard or ColorTreck and say no), entertaining session with an ineffective technology of binaural beats. In this scenario, to expect the CMB is not necessary. It says it all on the book, which we advise you to read.<

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 19:53

Джа wrote:After reading this book I had vague doubts.
1. Points. The book speaks of the large and small fields of review. Specifically, the small is 4 LEDs in the center of the pupil. Large (full) is the OmniScreen glasses or that was probably 6 LEDs on the contour of the eye (e.g., points from MindSpa). What do we have from Photosonix? - Antediluvian glasses (so they opisyvayutsya in advertising MindSpa) with a small field of view.
2. Binaural beats.
"Oster (Oster) using the oscilloscope came to the conclusion that binaural beats produce very small evoked potential in the auditory region of the cerebral cortex, which means that they are ineffective for the production of SMV (sync brainwaves).
Foster (Foster), another researcher of binaural beats, found that binaural beats with alpha frequency waves produce no more brain waves such as the alpha, than hearing the sound of the surf.
However, in 1980, the Monroe Institute has popularized binaural beats under the trade mark "Hemisync". They sold tens of thousands of films and prompted others to produce films, and generators allegedly binaural signals with a claim to achieve an effective SMV."

Meaning, in this case, that monaurally rhythm is more effective. But in the sessions we have in osnovnom bb/dbb. That Photosonix deliberately vparivaet ineffective (and therefore more "harmless") session - no effects, no problem.

3. Synchronization of brain waves (CMB) and entertainment.
"Normally, the manifestation of the effect of SMV requires 6 minutes of stimulation at a frequency of alpha waves (the effective frequency)." The book contains sample sessions for the CMB and for entertainment. The example shows that the vast majority of sessions Photosonix have entertainment napravlennosti.

Total we have - a good car (like the Inner Pulse), shitty glasses (even if Premium, in light of the above on standard or ColorTreck and say no), entertaining session with an ineffective technology of binaural beats. In this scenario, to expect the CMB is not necessary. It says it all on the book, which we advise you to read.

Well, we must not forget that man this book was written including to advertise their of David, and all the time on the so-called Davids OmniScan adapted. By the way, closed eyelids, just to provide the required dispersion. I'm on Nova About the standard sessions and standard glasses 10 years has received excellent results both for themselves and for dozens of other people...
In devices Photosonix have all the necessary rhythms (in addition to the binaural) and the session also built on different rhythms. No, IMHO, cannot be any right and wrong much of the sessions, and there are those that You personally suitable, or not suitable. In Hemisync binaural beats "laid off" in several layers, which significantly increases their effectiveness. On the market machin only Photosonics there is a dual binaural beats...

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Джа · Post by **Джа** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 20:02

Andrew, you yourself wrote that the six LED along the contour of the eye socket is correct. About advertising agree David, maybe so. About monaurally rhythms is unclear, few sessions on them, especially as photosonics there are even double - dsb. What about the effective time to the CMB in 6 minutes?

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 20:16

Джа wrote:Andrew, you yourself wrote that the six LED along the contour of the eye socket is correct. About advertising agree David, maybe so. About monaurally rhythms is unclear, few sessions on them, especially as photosonics there are even double - dsb. What about the effective time to the CMB in 6 minutes?

Six LED along the contour of the eye socket is more correct than four or one in the center, but do not strongly affect the efficiency with closed eyes (important. something was flashing), and more than just on an entertainment component, and OmniScan these generally boring.

6 minutes is also a kind of physiological constant and depends more on the brightness (if brightness is too strong the effect is absent).
In machine - the main light, and everything else is only a supporting entourage. The other thing is the wheels - there have izgalyatsya, to at least some to get the effect.

Джа · Post by **Джа** » Tue Apr 07, 2009 18:26

So I say, when photosonix honored at a normal glasses. And MindSpa to innerpulse not suitable?

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Tue Apr 07, 2009 19:05

Джа wrote:so I say, when photosonix honored at a normal glasses. And MindSpa to innerpulse not suitable?

No not directly suitable - it is necessary to order specially, or to solder a connector (or solder an adapter). And glasses are going to do for my project here "on the website", but until something is locked...

Джа · Post by **Джа** » Tue Apr 07, 2009 19:33

Yes I read someone did, but I understand there is no separation of management for different eyes.

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 17:02

Джа wrote:Yeah I read someone did, but I understand there is no separation of management for different eyes.

Is.

Джа · Post by **Джа** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 17:06

No, wrong - all there is. Say - cool. As if to order, so as not to solder?

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 19:56

Джа wrote:Yeah I read someone did, but I understand there is no separation of management for different eyes.

I mean - is for sale.

So contact Andrey Kabankova.

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 20:03

By the way, the book somehow missing bibliography (nadobna), it's not necessary to translate...

Джа · Post by **Джа** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 20:26

It's about the accuracy and objectivity of presented data? But all the same people a number of practical advice, I would not otherwise have learned. And the original is? Maybe the bibliography has fallen off?

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 13:01

Джа wrote:Is about the accuracy and objectivity of presented data? But all the same people a number of practical advice, I would not otherwise have learned. And the original is? Maybe the bibliography has fallen off?

Yes, everything is easier - thrust need a link to watch fast, an no. While I'm still in the archives of the original found...

Джа · Post by **Джа** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 14:55

Clear....Something with sunglasses tight. Kabankova I do not understand - first can be anything, then, if not, whether it even people (craftsmen) did not respond - the ambush.

Джа · Post by **Джа** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 15:03

Andrew, this is what I wanted to ask. You're doing this for a long time. As for the idea of the author - 6 minutes for the stimulation to SMV. This is actually really true or not, I have doubts about how boring winter for 6-8 minutes without changes. And somehow it confuses the TRANS and SMV. As actually manifested CMB? Judging by TM, the "no mantra, no thoughts." I've listened to your session (of the 5 pieces I have on innerpulse breaks) with some music. I basically took Medina have Guddal, Anugama, Karunesh and different (for some reason Levellin and Goiter went). Music creates a kind of space. So periodically have the feeling or a very subtle emotions that I had never experienced, as well as a certain smoothness and nearcontinuous mind (something which is close to the understanding of the Sixth Patriarch of Zen or Mahamudra and Dzogchen) - "thought by thought should not be interrupted without stopping." So that in mind there is no separation, although it picks up differences - cognitive ability is not lost. This can be called not-thinking - "plunging in thinking is not to think". And most importantly - memory almost no records of these experiences. It CMB or something else? I know that in your sessions a large number of segments and thus they are very diverse, not to memorize a sequence of transitions. I have a question regarding the CMB, the subjective perception of the CMB, the principles of achievement (perhaps the author uses outdated data or concepts confusing), the possibility of achieving the CMB at different frequencies in a single session, etc..