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Please tell me! Will there be enough Luma 10. Who uses this machine? If enough of those sessions that is written there?

Yes, you ceeee.... she audiostrobe does not support.... guys to buy this mm??? this is thrown out money....
take innerpulse where the optimal ratio price-quality...
headphones Tama stupid glasses standard no identity but for the first time has come.... glasses better color trek and big headphones with good sound you can buy from 200 rubles.

Андрюша wrote:please Tell me! Will there be enough Luma 10. Who uses this machine? If enough of those sessions that is written there?

And for what?

I mean,it's no use to me if I in addition to these sessions, the other for the development of their energy! I read the difference in the preset sessions on different machines,and I like and is suitable for Luma 10! On the other hand to another machine, you can record additional sessions,but it costs more that the money doesn't suit me. So I do not know how to be!

Андрюша wrote:I mean,it's no use to me if I in addition to these sessions, the other for the development of their energy! I read the difference in the preset sessions on different machines,and I like and is suitable for Luma 10! On the other hand to another machine, you can record additional sessions,but it costs more that the money doesn't suit me. So I do not know how to be!

As a man who missed in 14 years almost a dozen different mindmachine believe that Luma10 is enough.

Thank you very much Andrew!

the difference in price 1300 RUB.... between innerpulse and Lumos...
you will not be able to listen to audiostories and this is the most interesting thing that have in mind the car... especially the drive Explorer...

Disk Explorer you can listen to without machine and audiostrobe there is quite boring.

Just wondering. And if you buy headphones,CDs and glasses,you can connect all of that to another player or computer?

if the person is serious to do with MM then why limit yourself to just a set of sessions of the lums?
CDs you listen to on your computer and on the player but audiostrobe lost and need to be full light and sound stimulation, then more confused, and effect greater

Андрей Патрушев wrote:

Андрюша wrote:I mean,it's no use to me if I in addition to these sessions, the other for the development of their energy! I read the difference in the preset sessions on different machines,and I like and is suitable for Luma 10! On the other hand to another machine, you can record additional sessions,but it costs more that the money doesn't suit me. So I do not know how to be!

As a man who missed in 14 years almost a dozen different mindmachine believe that Luma10 is enough.

Hello.

choose the first MM.
knowledge and information are not enough.
I appeal To You as a specialist in this issue - please enlighten me:

in mind three models
Inner Pulse
Mind machine PR-2X
and iLightz Pro

in my unprofessional opinion they are about equal.
so I ask Your opinion on the choice.
thanks in advance.

Философ77
Hello.
It is necessary to take, of course, the one you really want.

Философ77
Unable to Express their subjective opinion. Based on my experience. I have Inner Pulse and iLightzPro. PR-2X thinking is not much different from iLightzPro.
Session seems the same.

In General, initially bought Inner Pulse with sunglasses white Premium. I tried and they seemed very bright,
although I think that at that time I didn't really realize affectinate vivid points in addition to vivid white glasses was the place to be a captivating effect, but since, eyes unaccustomed, it was a little hard, I asked them to replace it.
and I kindly agreed to change to Track Color.

In Colortech kaleidoscopic effect notice me not there and the brightness is much less than the premium points. But at the initial stage, especially for alpha sesi the most. IMHO. Mostly used green and blue.
Colortrac have all the basic colors.
The truth of the 11 colors one can clearly distinguish red, blue green and maybe a yellow. The other shades I to identify failed and white is not very pronounced, more like a pale yellow... all the colors, as I thought, the most vivid green, and blue, mainly used them... red is the least bright. Real problemu these points with switches. To buy met on the forum comments about it, but I did not think that the problem with the switches so critical. Adjust the brightness switch on the glasses is simply not realistic. The minimum brightness. which is almost not there and the next maximum possible brightness... if you click again ocui voosche will go out and not respond... then it is necessary to produce a series of 100 - 120 clicks on the button the intensity again to get at minimum brightness... and the main thing is not automatically to slip the brightest mode, which immediately follows the minimal and beyond which again the dark... actually the same kind of reaction training)...
Therefore it is better to put once the brightness on the glasses, on the possible maximum and to forget about the intensity.
But in spite of all these disadvantages of Kolor tracks have one advantage, it's actually the mode colortrak, which allows you to see what range is the stimulation for a given session... the color changes depending on the frequency. I do not know anyone but I think that it is useful to understand in what range is stimulation in this particular point in time. And the maximum brightness on the glasses and is maximally exposed on the machine is enough. With these glasses it is better to do in complete darkness or wear over your glasses sleep mask to avoid light access light, which will increase the contrast and the effect of points.

Next, I came online to iLightZPro, description impressed me, plus I wanted something brighter and different colors. Ordered.

The machine has an iPod dock. Although personally I'm not a fan of apples.
The machine opinion is twofold.

Number of sessions: 50 basic, 25 dopolnitelnyh.
Session is not distributed across assignments as an Inner Pulse, and IDF in a row all 75 sessions... I think not very easy to seek out the necessary. If the session is somewhere in the middle is somewhat annoying to her.
Although the LCD display shows the name of the session, this is not much oblichaet choice, as most part of the name session does not fit in the display. In fact the only visible serial number of the session, that is also need to use the table with the list sesi in the manual, and there all session together, without any separation by orientation. The principle on which compiled the list of sessions is not clear. All mixed up. Frequency specified in the table is not very informative. Specify one frequency, but within a session, the more dominant the other. Description sesii not make it normal view. All you have to explore on my own experience focusing on your feelings.
Working with the autopilot sessions (similar sessions impove Inner Pulse) is as follows:
First you need to create a session (session is created automatically via the create menu of sesija) and the creation of sesia is stored in the directory with Autopilot. Such sessions can create 5 for each range. Optional session you can delete and create a new session and if liked can be left. Feature is very convenient. But I was faced with the fact that the auto session create is outside the specified range. So creating alfassi happened sessii with base frequency of 6 and 7 Hz, which corresponds to the theta range. Either a glitch, or flaw. But in osnovonom alpha is created... so Theta is generated in the desired frequency range.<

+ Ashot
Sound possible or binaural tone or pulse. Specifies nastrojkah.
What is really convenient in iLightZPro it is manual mode and create your own sessions.
A very comfortable setting. All necessary parameters are displayed on the LCD display in one window, moving the button navigation parameters, you can change them other knopkami. Changes in the frequency, time of stimulation, the intensity of the light. the volume, choice of tone or impulsive sound, the tonal height of a sound (as a note - up, C sharp, d, d-sharp, etc.), the power phase, the ratio between apostu maximum and minimum brightness during the flashing. The Inner create your session a bit more complicated. I like so go not mastered, must be in the manul all the time to look.
So the main big plus is the ease of creating their own session, and you can create any session. But for this it is necessary to properly work on strannyh sessions to understand what you need.
Built-in session iLightZPro I honestly did not like it, but not all of pereprobovali... but the alpha is inferior to the inner pulse on the effects and involvement of the brain.

Points iLightZPro quite interesting, despite the fact that they have small multicolor LEDs (same as in Colotech). They are much brighter. Brightness is not inferior to large, such as glasses Premium for inner Pulse.
To put in the manual you can practicce any color.
Built of Krasny, blue, green, white. and also have the opportunity to obtain any color by yourself in the mode Vistula for each color channel Red Green Blue a value from 0 to 7.
Also, there are three modes of Kolor matrix is something like mode Colortrak, but the line frequency and the color not privychno, not like in Colortrac and therefore does not seem natural.
The brightness of the points is such that the value of 3-4 already costwise real contrast, and the values 10-15 are clearly reflected color. the maximum brightness is raised to 50. While above 15 is not raised.. mostly for 2-4 units depending on the light conditions in the company during the session and time of day. (morning bright).

Despite the declared support of Audiostrobe... I nearnatural... there is a mode Turbosonic, but the disks Andrey Patrushev and other Autostrop drives are not control points in turbosonic. I do not understand why. But it's a shame. iLightZPro I bought primarily as Audiostrobe decoder for disk A. Patrushev and other Auditron drives.
All the same, full-color points with high brightness would be vassallage with audiostrobe without having to raise the volume on the player.

Generally, if to summarize.

Ease of use built-in sessions for inner Pulse. despite the LCD display from iLightZPro.
Sama embedded session in my opinion more effective at inner Pulse.
A very important advantage of the inner Pulse is a session of Andrey Patrushev, myself, honestly do not use it, but judging from the feedback session, these very effective. It will put them when I find the adapter.
Here you can also find additional sessions for inner pulse, and that is not unimportant is the support of the forum and consultation sessions, and user reviews.
For iLightZPro I have not found normal forum support.
But the thing is, all the same work with States of consciousness and the experience and feedback of other users here very helpful. I personally helps.

The convenience of creating your own sessions is more convenient to have iLightZPro. Simply and quickly you can create any session without additional funds supposedly computer.
However this should clearly know what to create.

How does Audiostrobe on iLightZPro I did not understand, maybe it is not supported, the only supported Turbosonic.

Glasses on iLightZPro I liked, but the kaleidoscopic effect they don't give the difference from the Premium points for the inner Pulse.
By the way, I also bought a Premium Indigo glasses (after buying iLightZPro). The red and blue. Sunglasses super. After Colortrac a session on inner Pulse are perceived differently.

The sound is richer in inner Pulse.

Now I mainly use the inner Pulse points Indigo.

Sometimes use iLightZPro in manual mode, either for established private sessions for meditation on the chakras or mantra meditation.

I think at the initial stage. for the study conditions, it is better to choose inner Pulse.
And if possible, in the future to buy and iLightZPro for experimentation and entertainment. Extra this machine too.<

all read the horror... how many mistakes and typos...
Sorry for the difficulty reading, because of the errors and typos...

Идущая вперед wrote:Yes, you ceeee.... she audiostrobe does not support.... guys to buy this mm??? this is thrown out money....
take innerpulse where the optimal ratio price-quality...
headphones Tama stupid glasses standard no identity but for the first time has come.... glasses better color trek and big headphones with good sound you can buy from 200 rubles.

Sony Luma now are the same as those of Innerpulse.glasses can be buy any(of colortrac--entertainment,for most purposes, will do red or red-blue glasses).session a little different from Luma and Innerpulse.Luma somewhere,harder work,apparently to compensate for the lack of audiostrobe.about audiostrobe--70% of the discs,in my opinion,audiostrobe is an entertaining "fluff".well, as the David Pal is a function of "layouts" music by colors in the glasses.if you use audiostrobe not planned,the Limes is enough for everyday life.with such a price....
in General,I personally feel the difference in impacts between MM and disk.

Ашот wrote:PR-2X thinking is not much different from iLightzPro

It is, in fact, Nova Pro. If we compare Mindya there is a good machine iLightzTM Pro $249.95 (Plus S&H) with colortrack points.

By the way, the PR-2X is no longer available, and the native site is a rummage sale.
Yet, by the way, theirs turbosonic dlzhny to reproduce (and have reproduced, until it broke down ) audiostrobe disks without any problems.

Нетрезвый Сурдопереводчик wrote:Luma somewhere,is working harder

At Limes on the glasses is only the sinus, which prevents the higher harmonics, as a rectangle, therefore sessions on relaxation and meditation work in some cases better. Innerpulse you can also put the sine in the settings (defaults) that will be somewhat to the detriment of kaleidoscopic effect.

Андрей Патрушев wrote:If we compare Mindya there is a good machine iLightzTM Pro $249.95 (Plus S&H) with colortrack points.

I have this is. Not a bad machine. But I have effektivna effect of inner Pulse. Don't know why, maybe because sensesi or sound... Before I bought glasses the Indigo for inner Pulse, used iLightzTM Pro (and the inner Pulse is off). And relaxed and immersed, colors there are different. Generally pleasant entertainment. But then I bought the Indigo, was to use inner Pulse and immersion was already quite different. And at the end of session on the alpha almost immediately increase vitality, feel rested, cheerful, as after a good meditation.
After alpha sessions on iLightzTM Pro some time relaxed state. In the morning, before work, as it is not very adjusts to the working mood... I Want to lie down for a while... povtykat.. And in the evening the most it is possible then for something to skelaxinbuy, some AUTOTRONIC start.. Though at night I very rarely do... Dinner, TV here and all the classes...

I wonder whether, what good is a TV to watch during the session wearing glasses with clear lenses and what sesia for this best fit...

Андрей Патрушев wrote:, by the way, theirs turbosonic dlzhny to reproduce (and have reproduced, until it broke down ) audiostrobe disks without any problems.
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And something I can't achieve work. D in menu mode turbosonic connect the player and nothing happens... Maybe something more to do... the buttons were all perennial... silence, Verena the -dark...

Ашот wrote:And something I can't achieve work. D in menu mode turbosonic connect the player and nothing happens... Maybe something more to do... the buttons were all perennial... silence, Verena the -dark...

Try the brightness on the machine be set at a maximum and the sound source to play. Some mashinah the sound source is also necessary for the maximum bet, and the "sound" on machine to regulate the sensitivity of audiostrobe.

Ашот wrote:I Wonder whether, what good is a TV to watch during the session wearing glasses with clear lenses and what sesia for this best fit...

TV-and, IMHO, bad to watch...

Андрей Патрушев wrote:

Нетрезвый Сурдопереводчик wrote:Luma somewhere,is working harder

At Limes on the glasses is only the sinus, which prevents the higher harmonics, as a rectangle, therefore sessions on relaxation and meditation work in some cases better. Innerpulse you can also put the sine in the settings (defaults) that will be somewhat to the detriment of kaleidoscopic effect.

Yes,I Innerpulse play with the settings and then reset all the default

Andrei Patrushev
Thank you. I'll try.

What can you say about the David Paradise XL? Offered at a very attractive price