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In the search for nonsurgical methods of recovery I discovered something
http://www.oko-med.ru/oko-medius.html
There is Sessi to MM with the same action?

Пророк wrote:In the search for nonsurgical methods of recovery I discovered something
http://www.oko-med.ru/oko-medius.html
There is Sessi to MM with the same action?

Yes, this seems to be the same APEK http://www.med-tehnica.ru/index.php?productID=155 or here http://medspravki.narod.ru/litra/apek.html
Any alpha session on mindmachine effective for the prevention and partial recovery of vision through deep relaxation. For these purposes mindmachine used in the electronics industry for chip assemblies (abroad).

By the way, the forum already has this topic http://www.mindmachine.ru/viewtopic.php?t=1079&start=20
here http://www.mindmachine.ru/viewtopic.php?p=15901#15901

Andrei Patrushev created session to improve vision.
Download session http://www.mindmachine.ru/download/sessions/zrenie.rar

Vladimir Nikonov
Thank you:)

Andrei Patrushev
Listened to a session (or overlooked??) to improve the view. Immediately had three questions:
1) What color should I use ?
2) Brightness is best done at what level?
3) why does it sound? No stimulating or it is not important?
PS. I understand that all individually, but I would like to hear recommendations..

Алекс78
without sound, brightness individually, color green

ЗОМБИ wrote:Алекс78
without sound, brightness individually, color green

ZOMBIE
Andrei Patrushev

I'm just not very clear the objective of this session: relaxation eye exercise eyes a bright light, followed by relaxation in the pauses...

[quote="Алекс78"], the Vision is solely on the mechanism of Darwin.

Алекс78 wrote:I just not very clear the objective of this session: relaxation eye exercise eyes a bright light, followed by relaxation in the pauses...

Just tovarischi, created APEK, think you know what frequency helps to restore vision. I have adapted their session on the APEK to mindmachine. Brightness should be comfortable. On Apakah are standard (not SuperBright) LEDs.

Just tovarischi, created APEK, think you know what frequency helps to restore vision. I have adapted their session on the APEK to mindmachine. Brightness should be comfortable. On Apakah are standard (not SuperBright) LEDs.

I probably overwhelmed You with questions - thanks for responding.
About the last question.I'm just saying that if this relaxation session, the frequency of use, it obviously needs to meet the real needs of the eye - as you fatigue; and if the training - then probably more than one or two times a day it is better not to use..
Regarding the deterioration of view.. coming from himself, that is to say, their own experience, and I had a minus 6 on the right and so on the left, and how I got there I have the impression that the vision and mind are very much intertwined..
I am, however, one or two ophthalmologist, with foam at a mouth proved that the vision cannot be restored. However, our own experience shows that their allegations are far from the truth. And the greatest effect gives, in my opinion, a psych eval(in comparison with physical exercises for the eyes), although, frankly, to work at Bates I haven't tried it.. But installation to improve + relaxation really helps..
Well, I think, has not been programmed when I apply myself to the back of my mind the desire to see the bad, which then the body and converted..??

The above was me

Anonymous wrote:about the deterioration of vision.. Based on himself, that is to say, their own experience, and I had a minus 6 on the right and so on the left, and how I got there I have the impression that the vision and mind are very much intertwined..
Well, I think, has not been programmed when I apply myself to the back of my mind the desire to see the bad, which then the body and converted..??

Again, the vision deteriorates according to the mechanism of Darwin. Who have bad eyesight? THE INTROVERT. They do not have it, they stupidly did not use. Walk every day along the same road, and after 2 months notice that a new tree is planted or the store was closed He tries to see? that's the whole psychology.

The stronger intraverse, the worse the vision. A would-be doctor blame it on TVs, computers... so pralno, the introvert sitting at home and they are stuck

And the greatest effect gives, in my opinion, a psych eval(in comparison with physical exercises for the eyes), although, frankly, to work at Bates I haven't tried it.. But installation to improve + relaxation really helps..

try to work out the chakras and to shift the center of gravity of work in them, go ahead. but this is my socionic hypothesis(all activerow active chakra ahead http://www.socionics.org/theory/Default ... ealth.html ), but I haven't checked.

ЖСЛ wrote:again, the vision deteriorates according to the mechanism of Darwin. Who have bad eyesight? THE INTROVERT. They do not have it, they stupidly did not use. Walk every day along the same road, and after 2 months notice that a new tree is planted or the store was closed He tries to see? that's the whole psychology.

The stronger intraverse, the worse the vision. A would-be doctor blame it on TVs, computers... so pralno, the introvert sitting at home and they are stuck

Interesting version of life.

Anonymous wrote:

Just tovarischi, created APEK, think you know what frequency helps to restore vision. I have adapted their session on the APEK to mindmachine. Brightness should be comfortable. On Apakah are standard (not SuperBright) LEDs.

I probably overwhelmed You with questions - thanks for responding.
About the last question.I'm just saying that if this relaxation session, the frequency of use, it obviously needs to meet the real needs of the eye - as you fatigue; and if the training - then probably more than one or two times a day it is better not to use..
Regarding the deterioration of view.. coming from himself, that is to say, their own experience, and I had a minus 6 on the right and so on the left, and how I got there I have the impression that the vision and mind are very much intertwined..
I am, however, one or two ophthalmologist, with foam at a mouth proved that the vision cannot be restored. However, our own experience shows that their allegations are far from the truth. And the greatest effect gives, in my opinion, a psych eval(in comparison with physical exercises for the eyes), although, frankly, to work at Bates I haven't tried it.. But installation to improve + relaxation really helps..
Well, I think, has not been programmed when I apply myself to the back of my mind the desire to see the bad, which then the body and converted..??

Psyche and physiology, of course, very much linked to each other, but the reasons can be not only psychological. From a psychological point of view, of course, there may be elements of self-programming, such as the usual micrometry, like "I can't see (hear, digest, etc.)" with all the consequences. The same may be overloading the nervous system when people for whatever reason can not or is not able to eliminate the unnecessary (irrelevant in this context) information. This often occurs, for example, a preterm 6-month-old babies and later adults. In this case, regular practice of relaxation will certainly be very effective.<

Well, thank you..
But the question about how often to use this session and I did not answer - i.e., as eye fatigue, or as most sessions of mind machine - once or twice a day...??

Алекс78 wrote:Okay, thank you..
But the question about how often to use this session and I did not answer - i.e., as eye fatigue, or as most sessions of mind machine - once or twice a day...??

Duck, probably on the site of Apakov have all the recommendations...

well, will have to dig around on the website of Apakov..

Opensource projects, eh.. I Went to this link:
http://www.med-tehnica.ru/index.php?productID=155
And these guys do not catch flies). If you believe the test results, the diseases of the eye and not only cured almost 100%. A bold statement. Although the manual there really is..

Никонов Владимир wrote:Andrei Patrushev created session to improve vision.
Download session http://www.mindmachine.ru/download/sessions/zrenie.rar

Hello!Session downloaded,unzipped using winrar,and then browse I can't.I understand that in a computer there is a program through which I could view.My operating system is vista home premium,and then,through what I watch movies and listen to music,Windows Media Player.But her view is not possible.The file comes with the extension ZRENIE.LSS,IN SHORT,

котика wrote:

Никонов Владимир wrote:Andrei Patrushev created session to improve vision.
Download session http://www.mindmachine.ru/download/sessions/zrenie.rar

Hello!Session downloaded,unzipped using winrar,and then browse I can't.I understand that in a computer there is a program through which I could view.My operating system is vista home premium,and then,through what I watch movies and listen to music,Windows Media Player.But her view is not possible.The file comes with the extension ZRENIE.LSS,IN SHORT,

This session is designed to "watch"it on the computer.
Session loaded in a mind machine.

Андрей Кабанков wrote:This session is designed to "watch"it on the computer.
Session loaded in a mind machine.

Thank you!I just did not understand.And how to upload in MM.I InnerPulse MM.

Anonymous wrote:

Андрей Кабанков wrote:This session is designed to "watch"it on the computer.
Session loaded in a mind machine.

Thank you!I just did not understand.And how to upload in MM.I InnerPulse MM.

Here are all described in detail.
http://www.mindmachine.ru/sessions.htm

Андрей Кабанков wrote:Here are all described in detail.
http://www.mindmachine.ru/sessions.htm

Thank you very much,but the cable from our InnerPulse MM is not suitable to my computer.We have the computer(laptop) doesn't have a Jack for this cable.