Mindmachine and vision

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Post by Guest » Thu Jan 22, 2009 19:02

Is it possible to use MM when wearing the lenses? Or lenses pre you want to remove?

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Post by Идущая вперед » Thu Jan 22, 2009 19:48

contact lenses have different humidity and duravest i.e., lenses which have a week do not have to shoot... and you can sleep in them ... if you have one-day disposable lenses they after a day of wear and so RUB the retina and to remove them have come to love.... the use of glasses and visual stimulation implies that starting from 15 minutes and ending 2-3 hours (at the advanced mindmachine)with her eyes closed.... with open eyes are glasses in the catalog is... but colortrac better... and more effective... so much lenses anyway better off... especially in the early stages... after all, a visual signal passes through the eye then... why did he have some sort of barrier???? and suddenly there is due to lens refraction what happens??? I wonder what about this would say ophthalmologist....

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Post by Идущая вперед » Fri Jan 23, 2009 16:24

Pro vision....
noticed some effect...
I wear lenses and glasses vision 5....
using the mind machine has been like this effect... I became more attentive to detail and see much more... at Baley long distances than before.... i.e., the vision remained at the level of 5 but I started to grab parts and pieces of what is very far away - I don't know how to explain it just moves the focus on very distant objects
i.e. for example I can see what makes the driver of the bus 100 metres away...don't know how to explain.... I've never seen or even could not imagine that this is possible...

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Fri Jan 23, 2009 22:57

Идущая вперед wrote:I wear contact lenses and glasses vision - 5.
Mother, would you quit already. Glyadish and vessels have become better and eyes to eat started as it should.

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Post by Путешественник » Sat May 30, 2009 19:16

S. V. Thank you very much! Excellent link.

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Fri Jun 05, 2009 20:45

AAAAAAAAAAAAA... link broken.

If someone kept the old - let pleess :oops:

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Post by дени » Wed Mar 24, 2010 17:39

funny. the first episode of Central serous chorioretinopathy alone passes within 1.5 months in the majority of cases. priborchiki nothing to do with it

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Post by Ем » Fri May 21, 2010 10:21

A mojno li izpolzovat' apparat, if god back bila lazernaya operaciya eye?

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Sun May 23, 2010 11:50

Ем wrote:A mojno li izpolzovat' apparat, if god back bila lazernaya operaciya eye?
It is possible - at low brightness.

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Sat Nov 26, 2011 22:17

I remember long ago there was a discussion of the instrument APEX... is it possible for the Navigator to repeat the action of the APEX?

I would like :)

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Re: Suggestions for improving.

Post by к-13 » Sun Nov 27, 2011 0:38

As I understand it, to emulate the Apex session you just need to write... Hardly there is improvement required.

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Re: Suggestions for improving.

Post by к-13 » Sun Nov 27, 2011 0:44

Here, I found them(even the session is under a different MM). I would be glad if in the Navigator such appear.
the simulation of the operation of the apparatus APEK:
In APEK dim one led on each side of center.
in a set of 6 glasses with led lights of red, orange, yellow, green, blue, purple.
LEDs are approximately in this manner:
the right comes on for 1 sec, then goes off, the left lights up for 1 second so the session lasts 4 minutes, to look with open eyes, to every color has its own frequency flicker (respectively in the device 6 of the programs for each color - points are inserted and then choose the appropriate program) - the frequency is modulated at 9-9,4 Hz (change)
the duration of the parcel from 2 seconds for red to 6 seconds on a purple alternately on the right and left eyes.
This device? Description here - http://21.bewell.ru/

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Re: Suggestions for improving.

Post by Андрей Патрушев » Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:38

к-13 wrote:As I understand it, to emulate the Apex session you just need to write... Hardly there is improvement required.
Yes, of course. But the assertion of the pulse width to 1ms, I have serious doubts about just do not be visible... we in the Department were APEK - there is clearly more.

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Post by к-13 » Sun Nov 27, 2011 12:30

For MS I did not say anything :oops: . The duration in seconds.

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Sun Nov 27, 2011 12:49

No, I'm not talking about Your post, but about the declared characteristics:
The parameters of the light pulse radiation: radiation power at the maximum working pulse from 40 to 50 µw, pulse duration of the light is 4.0 ± 0.5 s, pulse duration modulation vnutripolostnoe 1.0 MSthe pulse repetition frequency vnutripolostnoe modulation of 9.2 ± 0.2 Hz, the switching time of the working impulse from one eye to the other 0,9 – 1,1 s.

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Re: Mindmachine and vision

Post by к-13 » Sun Nov 27, 2011 13:45

Андрей Патрушев wrote:pulse duration of the modulation vnutripolostnoe 1.0 MS
It is clear... That is, they do not just blink right/left, but also finely vibrating at the same? Of course, I understand that the average response time of modern LEDs is some 2-4 times less, but nobody has repealed the inertia - even if a person is somewhere on a deep level the ability to perceive eyes flashing frequency in kilohertz(very few people see the flicker just 50герц lamps, except that the peripheral vision), then the diodes themselves this frequency transfer can hardly - as I recall the physics course, in the diode, holes and electrons continue for some time to recombine with the release of the photons is still quite a long time... I mean they light up quickly, and faded out much longer. Whether sellers are trying for a bug feature to give, or leave something out(or speak) :?

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Re: Mindmachine and vision

Post by Андрей Патрушев » Sun Nov 27, 2011 14:00

к-13 wrote:That is, they don't just blink right/left, but also finely vibrate at the same
Blink-they with a frequency of 9 Hz, and that pulse width (duty cycle). This duration corresponds to the period for a frequency of 1000Hz. But to flash such duration to see, should the brightness of the LEDs to have a very big, and the first Apace with such parameters was produced with LEDs with low brightness. I tried APEK feel there pulse width is quite large - no less than 500ms (that is, the meander on 9Гц).

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Re: Mindmachine and vision

Post by Стаc Док » Mon Dec 19, 2011 22:39

Андрей Патрушев wrote:Probably the strength of the expectation was so powerful that I did today...
Andrey, Hello! And a program for the "Navigator" with more advanced technical characteristics, you could write? It would be :D

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Re: Mindmachine and vision

Post by СВМ » Sat Apr 14, 2012 15:54

Андрей Патрушев wrote:
к-13 wrote:That is, they don't just blink right/left, but also finely vibrate at the same
Blink-they with a frequency of 9 Hz, and that pulse width (duty cycle). This duration corresponds to the period for a frequency of 1000Hz. But to flash such duration to see, should the brightness of the LEDs to have a very big, and the first Apace with such parameters was produced with LEDs with low brightness. I tried APEK feel there pulse width is quite large - no less than 500ms (that is, the meander on 9Гц).
Maybe there is a view of pulse width modulation? In the left eye, the duty cycle decreases, and it goes out, and right increases and shines to full brightness and Vice versa.
And at 1 kHz is carried out smoothly controlling the brightness of both LEDs with a frequency control 9гц and not square wave and sine wave, or triangle. Otherwise nebylo povnogo out and blowing out.

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Re: Mindmachine and vision

Post by Азалия » Sat Jun 06, 2015 10:16

Is it possible to use MM with pigment degeneration of the retina?

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Re: Mindmachine and vision

Post by к-13 » Sat Jun 06, 2015 13:47

Азалия wrote:is it Possible to use MM with pigment degeneration of the retina?
Use the mind-machine at minimum brightness with your eyes closed does not differ from the rest on the street in the shade of a tree when a light breeze. If You have no contraindications to being on the street a Sunny day without protection, and mind You the machine you use. Provided, of course, the lack of contraindications to pulsed sounds and periodic flashes of light.

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Re: Mindmachine and vision

Post by ВостоК » Mon Jul 27, 2015 15:01

Work with MM already purchased the 31-day (ColorTrack Glasses). From the very beginning used the color # 9 (yellow-green Chartreuse). And even though he was Yellowish-greenish, but when you monitor shot glasses looks like a Green, but not the essence. The fact is, that with closed eyes this color I initially perceived as a Bright Red-and-White. Thought the specifics of perception and forgotten. But today the colour has become Green. And sharply. Yesterday, he was seen as a Bright Red-and-White, and today has become Green. I thought something with the glasses removed, looking - glasses, in order to give Green. It seems I've changed my perception. Is this normal? Interesting physiology of the process. Maybe who it was or is the opinion specialists?

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Re: Mindmachine and vision

Post by Андрей Патрушев » Mon Jul 27, 2015 15:24

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Yes, this is normal.
The perception through closed eyelids, this is a very interesting topic. I, at the time a lot was eksperimentirovat with red (standard) points, and even the table was trying to make - which color is perceived, depending on the frequency and duty cycle (despite the fact that the glasses are red, I was able to reproduce all colors of the rainbow), but after nekotoroe time, suddenly discovered that everything has shifted, and that other people don't agree with me - which color is currently playing. :?
Yes, plus more and found that color perception also still depends on what the frequency was before it. :roll: :)

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Re: Mindmachine and vision

Post by ВостоК » Mon Jul 27, 2015 15:34

Андрей Патрушев wrote:East
Yes, this is normal.
Fu-wow! Mountain - shoulders. :) From one side came some joyous feeling, because color is still Green, so it would be good to see him like this and not kind of Red, but still Bright, and even in cobweb :shock: .
And on the other hand has blown my ""rods and "cones" - I thought. Actually, really relieved. Thank you.
Андрей Патрушев wrote:color Vision through closed eyelids, this is a very interesting topic.....
Are there any popular science books on the subject? And indeed the effect of color on health, mood, and physiology in General? Solely on Your recommendations.

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Re: Mindmachine and vision

Post by Андрей Патрушев » Mon Jul 27, 2015 15:48

ВостоК wrote:are there any popular science books on the subject? And indeed the effect of color on health, mood, and physiology in General? Solely on Your recommendations.
Specifically about the perception of color, depending on the frequency (including the previous), duty cycle, brightness, front, or lateral location of the sources of colors, and colors, pulsating light, either together or separately, I have never met. :? It is possible that there even lies some fundamental discovery... :wink:
But books and articles on the Internet about the effect of color on health, health, mood etc. complete and all of them in one way or another rehash each other, and is based, IMHO, on research conducted by Helmholtz, in the 19th century ...
Here, in my opinion, really interesting and modern book.

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