Nova Pro 100 for a hypnotherapist. Anyone tried it?

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Nova Pro 100 for a hypnotherapist. Anyone tried it?

Post by Юрий Моисеенко » Mon Nov 05, 2007 20:47

Hello! I'm a doctor, hypnotherapist. Tell me someone used the microphone input in this model, MM to work with patients? I would like to hear recommendations on the acquisition of MM and other things. The goal is to work with patients (drug addiction and psychoterapia), mainly to facilitate trance induction.

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Re: Nova Pro 100 for a hypnotherapist. Anyone tried it?

Post by Михаил 2 » Tue Nov 06, 2007 16:28

Юрий Моисеенко wrote:Hello! I'm a doctor, hypnotherapist. Tell me someone used the microphone input in this model, MM to work with patients? I would like to hear recommendations on the acquisition of MM and other things. The goal is to work with patients (drug addiction and psychoterapia), mainly to facilitate trance induction.
Hello Yuri !
I in absentia familiar with nachalnikom psychophysiological service SKZHD Kostecki Valery Serdyukov, after he actually met MM, but they are used in combination Proteus and Photstream. So, he wrote to me about what they used with great success in the process of working with these devices methods symboldrama (about hypnotherapy, I do not know). Tomorrow I'll take the job his work e-mail and post it here, so can directly communicate.
Do you already purchased a Nova Pro 100 or Toko going ? I'm thinking now between the Nova Pro 100 and Proteosome, what are the reviews ? The same interested in, you have a private practice or not, because decide on opening your center without having the experience ?
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Post by Dimas » Thu Nov 08, 2007 13:35

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In 2000 in the Moscow narcological center Medinar already used vengeance of the machine to facilitate withdrawal syndrome.Patients after several audition sessions for sleep,it is much easier to sleep and thought quicker.Those who pass the course would not suffer without sleep for nearly two weeks,as sleeping pills did not give them (the non-drug treatment).The Proteus device according to specialists already obsolete.Those functions and options that there are in the line of Photosonix,no more than in any devices from other manufacturers.

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Thu Nov 08, 2007 15:34

Dimas wrote:Yuri Moiseenko
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In 2000 in the Moscow narcological center Medinar already used vengeance of the machine to facilitate withdrawal syndrome.Patients after several audition sessions for sleep,it is much easier to sleep and thought quicker.Those who pass the course would not suffer without sleep for nearly two weeks,as sleeping pills did not give them (the non-drug treatment).The Proteus device according to specialists already obsolete.Those functions and options that there are in the line of Photosonix,no more than in any devices from other manufacturers.
Device Proteus has the ability to dock with the biofeedback devices, Photosonix while only promise to make such a machine. Frankly, I failed to find any significant difference on the effectiveness of these devices using bare and without her. Maybe the exchange Protocol is imperfect, perhaps the principle of biofeedback (GSR) in this case does not fit, but maybe I'm the fool... :lol:

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Post by Михаил 2 » Thu Nov 08, 2007 17:15

Андрей Патрушев wrote:
Dimas wrote:Yuri Moiseenko
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In 2000 in the Moscow narcological center Medinar already used vengeance of the machine to facilitate withdrawal syndrome.Patients after several audition sessions for sleep,it is much easier to sleep and thought quicker.Those who pass the course would not suffer without sleep for nearly two weeks,as sleeping pills did not give them (the non-drug treatment).The Proteus device according to specialists already obsolete.Those functions and options that there are in the line of Photosonix,no more than in any devices from other manufacturers.
Devices Proteus and Procyon have the opportunity to dock with the biofeedback devices, Photosonix while only promise to make such a machine. Frankly, I failed to find any significant difference on the effectiveness of these devices using bare and without her. Maybe the exchange Protocol is imperfect, perhaps the principle of biofeedback (GSR) in this case does not fit, but maybe I'm the fool... :lol:
Could you explain what do you mean "dock" ? Wash biofeedback devices record Oceanica the degree of relaxation-stress based on GSR and does not matter what device AVS or methodology we use in this case, in what may be a discrepancy for example the Nova Pro 100 with Hotstream (Satstream) ? The effectiveness of the work of AVS devices do not bring barefoot of course, but (for example Postrema) through them it is possible to trace the dynamics of relaxation during the session and to compare graphs, superimposing them on each other, and thus making the conclusion benefit of this program is relaxation and what changes it brings, and not based on their own reasoning of the type "inserted - not inserted".

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Thu Nov 08, 2007 19:48

Михаил 2 wrote:
Андрей Патрушев wrote:
Dimas wrote:Yuri Moiseenko
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In 2000 in the Moscow narcological center Medinar already used vengeance of the machine to facilitate withdrawal syndrome.Patients after several audition sessions for sleep,it is much easier to sleep and thought quicker.Those who pass the course would not suffer without sleep for nearly two weeks,as sleeping pills did not give them (the non-drug treatment).The Proteus device according to specialists already obsolete.Those functions and options that there are in the line of Photosonix,no more than in any devices from other manufacturers.
Devices Proteus and Procyon have the opportunity to dock with the biofeedback devices, Photosonix while only promise to make such a machine. Frankly, I failed to find any significant difference on the effectiveness of these devices using bare and without her. Maybe the exchange Protocol is imperfect, perhaps the principle of biofeedback (GSR) in this case does not fit, but maybe I'm the fool... :lol:
Could you explain what do you mean "dock" ? Wash biofeedback devices record Oceanica the degree of relaxation-stress based on GSR and does not matter what device AVS or methodology we use in this case, in what may be a discrepancy for example the Nova Pro 100 with Hotstream (Satstream) ? The effectiveness of the work of AVS devices do not bring barefoot of course, but (for example Postrema) through them it is possible to trace the dynamics of relaxation during the session and to compare graphs, superimposing them on each other, and thus making the conclusion benefit of this program is relaxation and what changes it brings, and not based on their own reasoning of the type "inserted - not inserted".
Connect means provides a data exchange Protocol - there is too much options for main and frequencies of stimulation and supposedly selects the optimal combination, but I have the impression that is selected "from the bulldozer" (not, perhaps, from the "bulldozer" that's when biofeedback on EEG :lol: )<

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Post by Евгений Кош » Fri Nov 09, 2007 1:47

Андрей Патрушев wrote: perhaps the principle of biofeedback (GSR) in this case does not fit, but maybe I'm the fool... :lol:
As my one friend.. when I saw I have a mental toy ... "well, what do you need it? well, you will learn to change the resistance of the skin at points of contact of the sensors.. well ? rave is that what you wanted?" :)

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