The Kundalini energy burns me

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another thing-startpost.on the one hand, the woman asks:"why,Kundalini here and there,it is not clear,the discs continue to listen,even orgasm is not helping"...then it turns out--the problem then is not,"do it"..."ruby and then think"...taggage the essence of the question?

Hello Vladimir.... the theme began in early July.... but wait we have a new year... it's been almost six months....
during this time, the disk Explorer struck visualization and drive the solar wind was very helpful in restoring a normal energy metabolism... and the app rainbow-arc for extermination and removal of the negative and positive settings
so how do you get or out of the body??? you have some sort of special technique you use constantly?

[Владимир_В]

Hello.
well,I am by nature necroposter .but from the Russian esoteric slang sometimes included in...how softly say something???...in the state of Vipassana ...for me to understand what is:"test visualization",and "adjusted energy".when I long ago started practicing yoga,I kept saying like a mantra(and quite respected in this sport man ...his name is NOT Sidersky ):"I do not visualize NOTHING,no visualizations...is the path to where there is almost no way out,only real feelings."no wonder someone sees energy as it goes,someone hears,someone who feels nothing,but may look to push the wall .
just about out of body...somnitelnaya practice is not in the context of,say,religion Bon-po...if you just use(case simple)--some time later, start crazy health problems caused,as they say advanced donjuan:"podlucky inorganic beings",and in Christianity(of any denomination):"seasonnally".in Beaune, everything is easier-find the guru,the guru knows how to summon a demon.teaches you,and then you(you) with the demon one on one and nothing like the terrible
on the way out of the body I wrote in the sense that 2 times during the initial listen to the disc "Explorer" it happened to me.on reflection some time,it became clear to me that nothing unusual happened."departure from the body" starts of deep relaxation,deeper than "body asleep-the mind stands out"
about "Wai Kundalini here and there"...I'm sorry...I had a case 10 years ago...I raised her,so...due to the fact that the information component of the body was not ready for it--I received a "Samadhi-syndrome",well, lay three days,almost not breathing well, almost got me buried alive....such are the passions remembering what you've gone through--I decided to podnikavosti.in the end--"carried reasoning".
and "a Rainbow" bet can not.I do not have IBM-compatible computer with the license Data XP on Board...the whole layer passes by me....<

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do not visualize NOTHING,no visualizations...is the path to where there is almost no way out,only real feelings."

+100
Mantek Chia gives the same recommendation.

[Владимир_В]

just because navswheelsizemini can be anything...Milaraspa out generally pomeditirovat to the fact that the demon got on his shoulders(history is silent--put it or not,your feet on him).Visualization is only one faith(with the exception of the Catholic sects of the New world)--in Tibetan Buddhism.
by the way,I realized the usefulness of MM sessions that begin with the letter "E".unfortunately I learned the style(no,not Yoga No. 23),where practice is strictly tied to the time of day.overslept--are to blame.haunted(despite years of practice, a night owl so I stay,and the "owls" from 25 to 27 hours)a condition where the body is,well,used to "move"and the mind starts to do "the bus" .now everything fell into place.the effect of this practice has increased significantly.

[Евгений Кош]

just about out of body...somnitelnaya practice is not in the context of,say,religion Bon-po...if you just use(case simple)--some time later, start crazy health problems caused,as they say advanced donjuan:"podlucky inorganic beings",and in Christianity(of any denomination):"seasonnally".

on the way out of the body I wrote in the sense that 2 times during the initial listen to the disc "Explorer" it happened to me.on reflection some time,it became clear to me that nothing unusual happened."departure from the body" starts of deep relaxation,deeper than "body asleep-the mind stands out" Very Happy

do not understand.
give explanations for the contradictions.

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I also almost did not understand anything of what you wrote here... Vladimir... that did not happen seasonnot there are many ways of protection

[Евгений Кош]

that did not happen seasonnot there are many ways of protection

according to him it occurs not rarely.. for deep relaxation a person experiences not rare.

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Vladimirv
Maybe a separate Temko Yoga will do?

I'll be there questions in your posts to spread

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let's of course make a separate topic... the more that material on yoga have accumulated insane... still good separate topic to the astral plane to get... wait I read the book of Michael of the Rainbow Contact with the dead... well, very impressive...

[Владимир_В]

just about out of body...somnitelnaya practice is not in the context of,say,religion Bon-po...if you just use(case simple)--some time later, start crazy health problems caused,as they say advanced donjuan:"podlucky inorganic beings",and in Christianity(of any denomination):"seasonnally".

on the way out of the body I wrote in the sense that 2 times during the initial listen to the disc "Explorer" it happened to me.on reflection some time,it became clear to me that nothing unusual happened."departure from the body" starts of deep relaxation,deeper than "body asleep-the mind stands out" Very Happy

do not understand.
give explanations for the contradictions.

I see no contradiction.spontaneous removal of the torso can be with everyone.he consciously practiced in some cults.and that,is not relaxing to begin any technique of "leaving the body"?I know of one rather questionable,which won't nachinaetsya with relaxation.about health problems with "the allocation of the astral body" was written by Monroe
Temko,don't know or not...but about syllogisms, I would not have fruit

[Владимир_В]

that did not happen seasonnot there are many ways of protection

according to him it occurs not rarely.. for deep relaxation a person experiences not rare.

a classic example of a false syllogism...that is,according to you,all who experience deep relaxation--out of the body?????this is as in the textbook..."fool for nationalities eskimo...all the Eskimos-the fools"
by the way,in detail about the methods of "protection"

[Евгений Кош]

I see no contradiction.

you don't see, probably because they haven't thought of.
1. IMHO people often goes out of the body.. IMHO especially during sleep (unconscious) - this at sufficiently.
2. your statement that out of body is a subsequent problem with the "seasonally" etc.
3. Discrepancy .. it turns out to have no health problems - no neither sleep nor Transomat ( that person is in a natural way and OFTEN even without his conscious desire) - nothing.. no even think.. because you can think and not notice how fell out of the body and just picked up a bunch of demons ..

IMHO there is one rule.. like attracts like. on it and think.
Without permission on your part - no one and nothing will able you to do that either.
IMHO Monroe wrote about their fears - and drew similar.

[Евгений Кош]

i.e.,according to you,all who experience deep relaxation--out of the body?????

and your one ? ))
this is the differences in your reasoning. Somewhere you have a slight misconception that prevents understanding it Wholly.

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I learned to deeply relax your own body don't smell... get out of the body prevents fear... i.e. 2-5 h'm then drawn back... once this bus happened bit kryshak demolished

[Евгений Кош]

IMHO - outs of the body ( especially lucid) is one of the steps of the development of consciousness... and nowhere on it does not go... I mean when your awareness rises to a certain level, then the exit of the body becomes automatically available as a new feature of consciousness. and IMHO if this function AUTOMATICALLY lead to health problems, then a question arises about the evils of this function as such, leading to self-destruction (the tow diseases) the bodies of those who have this function. As soon as the question arises that is not all.. THEN using the same logic automatically the situation becomes clear and the conclusion can only be the following:
if the disease does not cling to all who are out of the body, thus out of the body is not the CAUSE of their occurrence. ( otherwise would be - all). from here the following conclusion - "prizivlenie" diseases depend on the PERSON coming out of the body, so it's in the PERSONALITY not in the output. Next is what I wrote in the post above ( about the "like attracts like, etc")
That's what I meant ILLOGICAL statements :

Vladimir wrote(a):
just about out of body...somnitelnaya practice is not in the context of,say,religion Bon-po...if you just use(case simple)--some time later, start crazy health problems caused,as they say advanced donjuan:"podlucky inorganic beings",and in Christianity(of any denomination):"seasonnally".

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People wonder what you mean by the render and where you can't do? I'm a visual learner - are often visualized
Is that bad?

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If we talk about Castaneda that wrote the official sources he died of liver cancer! And people write that dreamers often prone to liver disease! Don't know what is the reason but even so it makes sense to think!

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And the teachings of don Juan it is very interesting and fascinating tale of Carlos Castaneda in which many people want to believe! Writes beautifully!

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Vladimirv
Maybe a separate Temko Yoga will do?

I'll be there questions in your posts to spread

Yes, before I get tired of writing all sorts of Amnesty

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i.e.,according to you,all who experience deep relaxation--out of the body?????

and your one ? ))
this is the differences in your reasoning. Somewhere you have a slight misconception that prevents understanding it Wholly.

to criticize-the most favorable case,especially when there is a constant IMHO.strong in the faith when edeeste marvelous ability to grab words out of context--generally just live.in my opinion is this:"some of those who experience deep relaxation--out of body" feeling,again, the fallacy somewhere lurking ? here you can delve into the roots and begin a lengthy narrative on how all and Sundry,from Steve jobs to RAM Dassow and Monroe rushed to India--was looking for a guru,puffing at his doorsteps.they usually left home.ipota its rabid open,actually 6He worth a penny they poured on others.
where,kotorogo output happened a couple of times already demolished "kryshak"know that it will raise the level of its development?is that to assume it as an axiom.
and finally, a simple example...Monroe had a "course highlight of the astral body",is "lucid dreaming"...then he echoed Castaneda accurate to the letter:"you must purchase the "helper" from the "world of inorganic beings"("buddy" Monroe),which will help you to "move on."it's like the joke about the millionaire:"first, I found 2 dirty apples,washed them and sold for 2 cents,then 2 cents I bought 4 dirty apples,washed them...and then died my uncle Isaac, from Montreal, and left me a legacy of 3 million dollars..."

[Владимир_В]

and about Castaneda can be insanely long story that he wrote each new book approximately every three years(1st--class!"get high,Carlitos?????")exactly,when I was out of money,had a vasectomy,but one had a son(mercilessly suing for the inheritance of the father with the ClearGreen Corporation),the son paid a total of$ 100 child support,and in the end,when the inspiration has ended-labored Tensegrity.he has written several modestly,that in fact it--"author's"understanding the pieces of complex formal exercises of qigong.ClearGreen now produces a new series of Tensegrity...Yes,and his entourage,when he died of liver cancer(cancer-the grace of God)--all as one shot.their bodies,badly eaten by coyotes,was found at a dump

[Владимир_В]

People, I wonder what you mean by the render and where you can't do? I'm a visual learner - are often visualized
Is that bad?

well,in General... ...but one day it will become a reality

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... a very strong vibration in my spine... during the working day I a pain in the ass stick and I rush around the office like crazy without getting tired...

If this is actually the Kundalini (a kind of nothing further from the coccyx to rot) - it is good.

If it burns - then it's bad. Logically, should not gget. Since Kundalini woke up, as my yoga teacher - the body should be ready for it, because she's unprepared just can burn.

In any case, to act according to their own feelings. By the way, it's been six months since originalnogo messages. You can Poluboyartseva the author, what is the progress now with this Kundalini
and all.

Oh, Yes, now I understand where I went people's priskazka - "a pain in the f..." (just kidding, I still have the chakra does not open, do not know what it feels like, but I want to, but - maybe a mind-machine will help).

[Евгений Кош]

to criticize-the most favorable case

criticism begins to close when they want to go into the scenario of the victim to play the scenario is not related to the topic ( "Oh, he criticizes me.. Ah how wicked he is a critic"). I'm not interested.
Seeing in You the source of certain information that is interesting to me, I try to check out her LOGICAL resistance. If Your words was not interesting to me - that nebylo.

in my opinion is this:"some of those who experience deep relaxation--out of body"

with this I fully agree.

where person,kotorogo output happened a couple of times already demolished "kryshak"know that it will raise the level of its development?is that to assume it as an axiom.

Quite - admit as an axiom.

and finally, a simple example...Monroe had a "course highlight of the astral body",is "lucid dreaming"...then he echoed Castaneda accurate to the letter:"you must purchase the "helper" from the "world of inorganic beings"("buddy" Monroe),which will help you to "move on."

After you have tapped all the above, this is more just interesting for discussion, exchange of opinions, experience, examination ( including at the LOGICAL resistance).
The topic is not simple, and there is IMHO involve a "test," and requires the opinion of the collective mind ( if it can be called).. that is the experience of not only Monroe, etc.. but forumyan.
Not an easy topic, because it turns out that the exit function of the body of this entity ( in particular human) - it turns out that results ( this is not a statement but an assumption on your opinion and the opinion of Monroe and many more ) to "zapisovanje". As for me, the illogic of God.. at a certain level of consciousness development - has enabled the function of conscious exit from the body.. BUT ! with adverse consequences for the body. Hmm!?
what's the point???<

[Dimas]

Would you let me cut in?Well...maybe God put the filters?)))))about liver disease by the WAY...he was surprised to find that when the OS happens the next day, the weighting in the right side!to explain it I can not.Although I have a youthful early liver not so hot-I have very sensitive to everything,so her reaction I feel really good.so,after "flying" the liver something not much like it,fact!BUT...not everyone does that,several of Osivtsi asked-they say that they are all wonderful here..!And Castaneda with liver cancer..well pardon me,but what was she supposed to bloom and smell after any abuse???And do to him seriously not worth all this murk-a purely commercial project based on his thesis work and "broken dreams".And about the "buddies" Monroe...well, something, too, there is not so clean...I don't much trust people who are dealing with spiritual experiences.I had similar moments in life,when the body came out well FINALLY no entity was not there,but I suspect that will be there if I was originally set to see THEM...