Alpha, beta, theta, Delta waves

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Post by Сергей Владимирович » Mon May 28, 2007 5:29

Hello!
Think about buying BrainMaster ATLANTIS I (4+4 DESIGN) w/2.5 SE (http://www.brainmaster.com/productinfo/ ... stems.html). Expensive of course.

Will help to pick?
Unable, to say anything about this device?
Pretty interesting device is really expensive (from$ 1300 and above, depending on the configuration and capabilities). In fact, this device with biofeedback that connect to a computer running appropriate software (e.g., BrainMaster 2.5 Software). To the device connect the sensors registered bioelectric activity of brain with subsequent input and processing the signal and presenting it in the form of graphs of the frequencies of the rhythms of the brain at a given time. This device allows the change of bioelectric activity of the brain by EEG training. This training is based on the principle of gradual training of the brain, accompanied by an increase in the amplitude of some frequencies and/or a decrease in the amplitude of the other that corresponds to the different States of consciousness. In addition, using the BrainMaster StimFlash Software, which is already part of the program BrainMaster 2.5 Software, you can generate AudioStrobe signal, then, using your computer sound card to the input of a mind machine. AudioStrobe signal is formed with the rhythms of the brain corresponding to its electrical activity, which registers the device in given time. Thus ongoing action is the stimulating rhythms to the natural rhythms of the brain with the aim of achieving resonance frequencies. If anyone is interested, the full set of documentation on this hardware and software package I have, however, in the English language.
A similar system is in Russia. If I am not mistaken, "Complex with biological feedback (biofeedback Reakor)" (http://www.disnet.ru).

Sincerely, Sergey.

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Mon May 28, 2007 14:44

И-Ван wrote:Andrew, with the option to buy figured out, no obstacles.
Incomprehensible to me the problem check. In the attached softiny three categories of users: 1. a regular customer (at least the ability to use instrument settings, roughly speaking any opportunities); 2. the buyer is under NetRom doctor (my doctor needs to get the password from the seller of the device and pass it to me:) ) + a little bit of the capabilities settings; 3. occupational therapist - everything is possible, but you need to send reports to some clinicians.

Andrew, if you could explain:
1. Do I understand correctly that the procedure for removing the EEG is a passive process, nor any penetration or embedding in the head not happening?
Yes, it is
2. If it is a passive process, why such difficulty with registrariat?
And You will ask... :wink:
the insane. Give 3 000 rubles green and go to someone to ask to get the password from the seller. Someone who buys and someone who has to pay, that is the question :) :) :).
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Post by и-Ван » Mon May 28, 2007 15:44

Sergey, thank you very much for the information. I downloaded the software VM 2.5 and upgrade to 3.0. Documentation there is something interesting in Russian. In our appliance prices even more child than them.

Andrew, to ask THEM useless. THEY are no worse and no better than us they are different. THEY write on the bags with food: "Open and eat" or the rearview mirror: "You see the reflection." Ask THEM why they do it, in my subjective opinion, useless. :)
But for the advice thank you.

I made the decision. Want to disburse in the first week of June. I will take BrainMaster ATLANTIS I.

Can anyone knows what is shipping UPS.

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Post by Андрей Кабанков » Mon May 28, 2007 16:10

И-Ван wrote: Can anyone knows what is shipping UPS.
I know.Want customs clearance time of the month!-it is to them :D

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Post by и-Ван » Mon May 28, 2007 18:57

Andrew, these conditions of the supplier.
What can I do? Some alternative are there?

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Post by Владимир Никонов 2 » Fri Jun 08, 2007 18:02

To the topic of brain waves - books Silva - http://www.koob.ru/jose/

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Post by и-Ван » Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:53

Andrew Kabankov, this is our correspondence:
"And van wrote(a):
Maybe someone knows what UPS."
"Andrew Kabanov wrote(a):
I know.Want customs clearance time of the month!-it to them"

I now is with the BrainMaster in the correspondence about the agreement terms of purchase and from the UPS service refused. They offered USPS. When customs clearance in Moscow any difference between UPS and USPS have?

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Post by Андрей Кабанков » Wed Jun 20, 2007 20:40

USPS - postal carrier.UPS carrier.Clearing international octane yourself.The single customs rate for individuals is 30% in excess of 10,000 p. no Problems.Although under the new rules,you will apply the requirement of registration of customs declarations for goods worth more than$1,000.This will probably require the services of a customs broker(2-3 thousand rubles)

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Post by и-Ван » Thu Jun 21, 2007 0:03

Andrew thanks for the info.
Once in the scrap to pay ~ us $ 750 registration fee, something is wrong. How to negotiate a deal I'm the logistics for the purchase of the skins, it may be useful infa.
I'm thinking that someone might ask to bring the private way. Even heard that some spetsializiruyutsya in such services. Familiar so buy an expensive camera and laptop.
It is necessary to think.
Thanks again.

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Post by Александр_ » Sun Jun 24, 2007 4:01

Something interesting, but "penetrating electrodes" ???

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Post by и-Ван » Fri Jul 20, 2007 22:50

Andrew, I read the literature on EEG, but could not understand what the active electrodes are different from passive, but the price is almost 100 times?
Are you still with EEG worked can be know.

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Post by Александр_ » Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:31

And van

Well, as luck Bren master ?

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Post by и-Ван » Wed Aug 15, 2007 15:28

Understand, configure software and hardware.
Of course I tried with minimal configuration - 1 electrode.
I have had problems with the hardware. I've dealt with and as soon as I started to work I have tried to hold a session.

The eyes are closed.
A1-F4-A2.

Time, min 9 12 9 15 17
Delta (0,1-3,0) 10,34 20,06 17,71 14,52 19,21
Theta (4,0-7,0) 6,36 9,26 7,18 5,89 8,19
Alpha (8,0-12,0) 6,36 9,12 7,33 10,99 9,21
LoBeta (12,0-15,0) 3,88 5,13 4,23 4,41 4,40
Beta (15,0-20,0) 4,78 5,90 5,40 5,64 5,32
HiBeta (20,0-30,0) 4,45 5,41 4,25 4,58 4,44
User (30,0-38,0) 1,71 2,20 1,66 1,49 1,63
Gamma (38,0-42,0) 0,90 0,89 0,66 0,69 0,67

Strangely, when you type in the window all the data in a column. Click on preview - the spaces are removed.
I will explain the table words. In table five sessions of different duration in minutes is the upper line. Below the name of the waves, in parenthesis the range of the waves, then respectively five average amplitudes during the session for each session in the mV.

Andrew, comment.

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Wed Aug 15, 2007 19:37

Sorry, but I don't understand... :oops:

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Post by и-Ван » Wed Aug 15, 2007 23:05

All elementary.
In the line Time the first digit is 9, the duration of the withdrawal of the EEG in minutes, i.e. the time of the first session, I was able to run and tried to relax. While I had five sessions and have posted their results in the table, but the table was reformatted into what happened.
During these 9 minutes of the first numbers in each range of waves is the average of the session the amplitude in this range of waves. Look: the first wave is a Delta (0,1-3,0) in brackets the limits of measurement. In my session Delta waves were measured in the range from 0.1 to 3.0 Hz. 10,34 this is the average amplitude of Delta waves during the session. The greater the amplitude the greater the share of these waves in the EEG. And so all of these waves. In other words, in the first 9 minutes of the session, the average wave activity in my brain was the following: Delta 10,34; 6,36 Theta; Alpha Of 6.36; LoBeta of 3.88; Beta 4,78; HiBeta 4,45; User 1,71; Gamma of 0.90. The range User, the user sets himself. I found the window between HiBeta and Gamma and filled it as a range User to block all frequencies.
During a session or during subsequent playback when recording to disk, all changes are tracked in real time.

The soft weight of the other indicators the same Delta waves: the relative and absolute increase/decrease, wave power in %. There are a lot of indicators, because the device Clinic Pro. I began to write, as he is still not all fully understand, for example, the thresholds values about them constantly writing, but I couldn't understand why this is necessary. The point is that when a manually set threshold automatically turn on or off, or speeding up/slowing down a process, such as audiostrobe, flash games, animation, etc.

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Thu Aug 16, 2007 0:23

Ahh... :roll:
And what is there to comment? :oops:

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Post by и-Ван » Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:09

Andrew, how do You determine dominant frequency?
Let's say in my example: Delta (0,1-3,0) - 10,34 mV when the dominant/peak frequency of 2.4 Hz (is there such a figure); Theta (4,0-7,0) - of 6.36 mV and 5.2 Hz; Alpha (8,0-12,0) - of 6.36 mV and 9.1 Hz; LoBeta (12,0-15,0) - 3,88 mV - 13 Hz; Beta (15,0-20,0) - 4,78 mV - 17,1 Hz; HiBeta (20,0-30,0) - 4,45 mV - 24 Hz; User (30,0-38,0) - Of 1.71 mV and 33.7 Hz; Gamma (38,0-42,0) - 0,90 mV - 40,54 Hz.
In my case, the leading frequency?

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Post by и-Ван » Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:16

Nikonov Vladimir.
Vladimir, I here on the occasion of the bookseller has bought the book. Author Maxwell Cade and Nona Coxhead "The Awakened Mind: Biofeedback and the Development of Higher States of Awareness". For this author (Maxwell Cade) recalls Anna wise as their teachers and authority in this area. Book course in English.
Cosmesis for the translation?
Electronically I drove her.

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Thu Aug 16, 2007 15:59

И-Ван wrote:Andrew, how do You determine dominant frequency?
Let's say in my example: Delta (0,1-3,0) - 10,34 mV when the dominant/peak frequency of 2.4 Hz (is there such a figure); Theta (4,0-7,0) - of 6.36 mV and 5.2 Hz; Alpha (8,0-12,0) - of 6.36 mV and 9.1 Hz; LoBeta (12,0-15,0) - 3,88 mV - 13 Hz; Beta (15,0-20,0) - 4,78 mV - 17,1 Hz; HiBeta (20,0-30,0) - 4,45 mV - 24 Hz; User (30,0-38,0) - Of 1.71 mV and 33.7 Hz; Gamma (38,0-42,0) - 0,90 mV - 40,54 Hz.
In my case, the leading frequency?
In Your case it's just "dominant/peak frequency".

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Thu Aug 16, 2007 16:03

И-Ван wrote:Nikonov Vladimir.
Vladimir, I here on the occasion of the bookseller has bought the book. Author Maxwell Cade and Nona Coxhead "The Awakened Mind: Biofeedback and the Development of Higher States of Awareness". For this author (Maxwell Cade) recalls Anna wise as their teachers and authority in this area. Book course in English.
Cosmesis for the translation?
Electronically I drove her.
Wow! :D
Ready to change! For example, Jeffrey Thompson (DVD) in wav format, or audiostrobe drives. az

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Post by и-Ван » Thu Aug 16, 2007 20:47

Andrew, do I understand that the leading frequency is the maximum amplitude, that is, in my case 2.4 GHz.
It is strange that the leading frequency of the Delta. In the middle of the session, the Delta has changed since the alpha, Theta, is also up for alpha, but not as much, then the end of the session back.

About the book. I want to share Nikonov: the text for translation. I liked how he translated Anna wise and Vladimir in the subject. I don't think he will deny You in the book. For me it is important how long will it take to translate.

Thanks for the offer. If Nikon or I'll solve the translation problem, in any case, I will send You the text without the exchange of. Book 1979 edition. The cover and the leaves are already turning yellow.

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Thu Aug 16, 2007 23:38

Well, I'm fluent in English read, so I would be grateful for a scanned book. Can selectively something to translate. Anna wise (one book) was published in Russian.
Just according to Anna wise, a leading frequency when learning something new, causing an increased interest, must be Delta. Interestingly, the Delta is dominated by psychics (at work). That is, by studying something new and interesting, as if a person is tuned to the Universe, trying to fish out information on this issue...

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Post by и-Ван » Fri Aug 17, 2007 0:11

With the book the situation is the following.
A week ago I have scanned it in 300 dpi TIFF. They produced a large volume of ~ 400 Mb I have it now, but send it I don't see the point. I immediately gave her in recognition. Promised for two and a half weeks to do clean up, format and produce PDF, Doc and DjVu picture everything as it should be only a translation.
Here I want to give to the translation.
I told the Doc to translate the best.
Need here Nikonov lure, he's on the forum were present.

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Post by Владимир Никонов 2 » Fri Aug 17, 2007 0:52

And van, if a book topic, you can organize the translation and then put in free access on the website. Translation will take time. A couple of months.

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Post by и-Ван » Fri Aug 17, 2007 13:07

1. The table of contents you can decide the topic or not?
Here is the contents:
ONE
Biofeedback and States of Self-Awareness
1 A New Way of Learning—Internal Cues 3
2 Recognizing Internal States 27
3 The Art of Meditation As It Relates to
Biofeedback 83
4 The Fifth State and the Mind Mirror 103
TWO
Biofeedback and the Higher States
5 The Hierarchy of States 115
6 Biofeedback and the Psi State 144
7 Training in the Higher Reaches of Meditation
(Science of the Soul) 152
THREE
Biofeedback and the Healing State
8 Mind Mirror Research with Weil-Known Healers 187
9 The Role of The Fifth State in the Long Term
Clinical Healing 203
10 Implications and Future Trends: A Commentary
by C. Maxwell Cade 219
Bibliography 229
Appendix A Mind-Mirror Patterns and Diagrams 237
Appendix B Technical Descriptions of the Machines 249
Appendix C 254 Biofeedback Instrument Manufacturers
Appendix D Glossary of Technical Terms 256
Appendix E Glossary of Sanskrit Words Used in
This Book 268
Index 271
About the Authors 276

2. It is important that the book translated the same person as Anna said in the beginning of this thread.

3. I need a translation. My scheme: text for the translation. Next, with text you are free to do as you see fit.

4. Eight weeks is normal. I am satisfied with the condition of expulsion I translated part of each week on Friday.

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