Mind machines and vision with your eyes closed

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Post by Идущая вперед » Mon Dec 22, 2008 14:24

Гость wrote:posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:05 am
mlyat.. where do you climb? you don't even know what you lose if you get stuck in these worlds... a year ago became interested in the psychological correction and closure systems with visualization and positive conclusion... this is called introspection... thought I'd get a new personality... only later learned that this can be done only under the supervision of a good therapist... the result - depressive stupor paralysis of the brain, three months in the psych ward... twice rescued... okoloserdecna state.... pumped twenty litres of amitriptyline... Yes, I can experience the ecstasy of what I want and it has nothing to do with any of your orgasms... I can eat a Snickers bar and shove his drugs... I can tune into the sound of passing cars and writhe from the pleasure. can I change the color of the eyes and walk around the apartment with my eyes closed... BUT!!!!! I lost my family.. business... all the savings.... I am in a constant state of derealization... this is exactly what you are looking for... feel for me the world is drawn... I look at him through the glass... I HAVE NO EMOTIONAL CONTACT WITH the WORLD!!! I CAN'T GET INTO MY BODY BACK!!! BELIEVE me!!! THAN YOU HAVE THE SENSE OF BEAUTY INCOMPARABLE TO ANY OTHER ABILITIES AND OPPORTUNITIES!!!!! I ALREADY HALF A YEAR TRYING TO GET BACK TO NORMAL!!! AND THE ONLY WAY OUT I SEE IS SUICIDE!!!!
CONSTANT TERRIBLE HEADACHES.... DIZZINESS.... MY GIRL DRINKS!!! AND I'M SUFFERING FROM A HANGOVER!!!!!!!! I REACT TO HER DREAMS!!!! I STARTED TO PAINT WITH OIL ALTHOUGH NEVER HELD IN THE HANDS OF THE HANDS!!! BUT TO ME IT ALL NAFIG NOT RESTED!!!! DO NOT MEDDLE IN WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW!!!! YOU HAVE ONE LIFE!!! DO NOT TURN IT IN ENDLESS HORROR!!! BELIEVE me.... NOW I SEE DEATH ONLY AS A RELIEF FROM THE SUFFERING....
I am also afraid that disclosure of abilities can lead kudanit nor there... and then drove PAST yesterday KUZMINSKY CEMETERY...
well graves... wreaths are... the LIVING DEAD... forget about wiping them... some for a long time and[SPAM] remember but the memory is not durable and already the next generation is unlikely to remember who out there is ON THIS EARTH... and then you need the earth is all sroyut and put on these sites residential home... I then told me friend that live in the cemetery on the jeeps... so some of woooooot.... my point is this...
still ALIVE and can do something useful to DO...
come out of the stupor of thoughts about suicide AND DO SOMETHING USEFUL... when you're dead - doesn't help anyone and will not do anything and no one will remember the good word...
yesterday showed a report from Lipetsk... There is a black man from Cameroon is helping people who have nothing to eat... in Moscow there is doctor Liza Glinka (in the search blog doctor Liza Glinka)...
we need not delve into themselves and out into the world...
If you were given the ability to see AND CREATE (paint)...
not casual you life sent such tests...
this is a LESSON... you have too gloomy a picture of the world... maybe we should change the attitude....????<

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Post by Идущая вперед » Mon Dec 22, 2008 15:11

Dear guest
here's an interesting article on this topic... I am the author of don't agree - but the important rudiments are present
http://apinews.ru/index.php/entertainme ... sia-russia

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Mon Dec 22, 2008 15:44

Anonymous wrote:mlyat.. where do you climb? you don't even know what you lose if you get stuck in these worlds... a year ago became interested in the psychological correction and closure systems with visualization and positive conclusion... this is called introspection... thought I'd get a new personality... only later learned that this can be done only under the supervision of a good therapist... the result - depressive stupor paralysis of the brain, three months in the psych ward... twice rescued... okoloserdecna state.... pumped twenty litres of amitriptyline... Yes, I can experience the ecstasy of what I want and it has nothing to do with any of your orgasms... I can eat a Snickers bar and shove his drugs... I can tune into the sound of passing cars and writhe from the pleasure. can I change the color of the eyes and walk around the apartment with my eyes closed... BUT!!!!! I lost my family.. business... all the savings.... I am in a constant state of derealization... this is exactly what you are looking for... feel for me the world is drawn... I look at him through the glass... I HAVE NO EMOTIONAL CONTACT WITH the WORLD!!! I CAN'T GET INTO MY BODY BACK!!! BELIEVE me!!! THAN YOU HAVE THE SENSE OF BEAUTY INCOMPARABLE TO ANY OTHER ABILITIES AND OPPORTUNITIES!!!!! I ALREADY HALF A YEAR TRYING TO GET BACK TO NORMAL!!! AND THE ONLY WAY OUT I SEE IS SUICIDE!!!!
I also sometimes think that the wind is blowing from the trees sway... :?

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Post by Дивергент » Tue Dec 23, 2008 15:22

Wow...
How great that especially men see with their hands))))
:oops: I will be looking for you!

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Post by ЕХТ » Mon Dec 29, 2008 0:34

there are 6 types of view alternative....
I have all....
without any machines....

full synchronization of the hemispheres of the brain....
art Ruby eye of the Dragon

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Post by ЖСЛ » Mon Dec 29, 2008 4:55

ЕХТ wrote:there are 6 types of view alternative....
I have all....
without any machines....

full synchronization of the hemispheres of the brain....
art Ruby eye of the Dragon
The connection between the consciousness and subconsciousness?

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Post by Владимир_В » Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:12

wow...a teacher and a Teacher among us...now there is someone who will sing another mantra :roll: .well I after the m-cars see a room with closed pasamela that this effect is gone--we have a couple of times actively to blink :) :(.in fact,managed to pomeditirovat to the same effect and without machines,but with it are simpler,almost guaranteed effect,not so esoteric,but modern and in the spirit of the time :ap :shock: :? .reading texts about how the girl is drinking,and the man of HER hangover...well, more ancient manuals,such as "Gherardeschi" clearly,in a nutshell described-WHO cannot engage in ALL THESE activities.I humbly years 10 live...in a word,while ,say in an apartment,I clearly know--what will happen in about 12-20 minutes.I personally do not interfere.well, except,the last 10 years I Wake up thinking "I rang the alarm" for 10 minutes before....

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Post by Евгений Кош » Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:47

ЕХТ wrote:there are 6 types of view alternative....
I have all....
without any machines....

full synchronization of the hemispheres of the brain....
art Ruby eye of the Dragon
Neither realized
This method, like the famous (Mr. Bronnikov teaches it).
But where does it this topic?

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Post by Владимир_В » Thu Jan 01, 2009 22:02

Евгений Кош wrote:But where does she on this topic?
sachem,your man engaged in ezotericheskoe cults???in large part,in order to feel involved in something great and big..... :lol:

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Post by Евгений Луценко » Sat Jan 03, 2009 11:07

Perhaps this is due to a transition in one of the highest forms of consciousness

http://yandex.ru/yandsearch?text=%D1%82 ... 0%BA%D0%BE

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Post by Евгений Кош » Sun Jan 04, 2009 2:40

Евгений Луценко wrote:Perhaps this is due to a transition in one of the highest forms of consciousness
az
a similar opinion
(if not articulate many refinements - to forum readers understand why it is so)

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Post by Guest » Tue Jan 06, 2009 19:36

The author of a topic,

When you see your hands is the first stage. If you train hard in the future will be able to see the room, and any space that you are interested in. In the future will even be able to see in color. A distinctive feature of this sight is circular. You'll see the back of his head and forehead and temples, all around you, not just ahead, as they allow you to see your eyes.

The point is that the brain opens itself to the perception of energies. Advantages - a lot of dangers - a lot. You have to be prepared for what you'll see "features", especially in the corners in my own home. I didn't sleep for two weeks because of this, I wasn't ready...
But basically, I realize now that there is nothing to fear. It is the same reality that I know from birth.
So go ahead, train, it will be interesting. And whether it is necessary for you to stay - you'll understand myself.
When this happened to me the vision no mind-there were no cars, and such phenomena was available, Oh, how few.

Cheers.

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Post by Guest » Tue Jan 06, 2009 19:51

Велосипед wrote:So, to see with my eyes closed I've learned. Do not tell me how to hear with closed ears and closed mouth ? bc
About the ears do not know, but that is with a closed mouth, through the skin, you can teach only two women on the entire planet.
Looking for a woman. :) French phrase - in France and search for :) Live there alone. Second - on the opposite side of the earth.

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Post by скиминок » Sun Jan 11, 2009 12:35

I have to see your eyes closed does not work but Kapitsa in the minds of the people I can!

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Post by Ле » Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:14

WELL, NONSENSE! :lol:

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Post by Guest » Sat Jan 17, 2009 17:39

:shock:

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Post by Guest » Sat Jan 17, 2009 21:50

:wiz

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Post by Авэ » Sat Jan 17, 2009 22:59

Strangely, today the leash began to develop the skill of "direct vision" :)

Ie see astral, not physical eyes :)

Right from the first day to progress.

Who interisuet to porazveyatsya good soap:

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Post by Сириус » Sun Jan 18, 2009 6:04

Hello. Found your very interesting forum and decided to share his inexplicable (until recently) sensations. They appear spontaneously (4-5 times per year). It all started in 16-17 years (7-8 years ago). Was puberty and all that, there was an inferiority complex. Now I remember them with a smile on her face, but the pimples on the face or "destruction" of classmates was seen as the explosion of the atomic bomb and forced into a deep depression (due to low self-esteem, of course). This situation of course I was not satisfied and I started looking to get rid of problems, on the one hand began to exercise, proper nutrition (even recently did on this topic), and on the other hand began to study the literature on psychology and psychological practices, in order to feel happier (like any of the manuals "How to be happy" books N.Kozlov, then even for the sake of interest got to the books, Eric Berne and Freud, and some others, much of course it was not clear). But ultimately, applying psychological practice for yourself in two years had achieved a stable state of "optimism", in some cases passing into a state of happiness and euphoria, for no reason, just happy and all. In General, I would characterize it as being close to the "love for the opposite sex" (when you're with the one you love), but a little weaker in effect, and no object of love, like and love yourself and others. But in this state there was some blurred the mind, the appearance of great courage and the disappearance of fear (on one side the "fizzing", and with another – example: the man saw the tiger and because he felt no fear and didn't hide, can still have decided that will win the battle with the tiger? And tiger man ate. The sense of self-confidence prevented the man soberly assess the situation. If Nature did not give us fear, we would become extinct).
So I tried not to "overreact" and kept to themselves simply as "positive".
BUT also, sometimes, there is what is not clear and not described in the books they read, the sense of Clarity All (the last time was a couple of months ago lasted about 5 hours, without any meditation, spontaneously appears).....
A month ago I watched a recording of the program of Gordon - a Conversation About Kabbalah 2003 And found an analogy that says M. Laitman and my feelings.
THESE Feelings I will describe like this:


1. Feeling Understanding and Knowledge of ALL (not knowing the rational, logical mind, and knowing some others??? sense (not like intuition, but if it is her, this intuition multiplied hundreds of times, or intuition regained all of its lost function ??? I don't know yet).
When you are in "everyday condition" is "the Absolute Sense of Knowledge and Understanding" it seems UNCLEAR, ILLOGICAL.
It's like two different worlds (States). And you are like in This world, and the Mind is moved to some other level of understanding or rather FEELING. The Mind Feels.
For example, look at a tree or on a building and just Know All about him, Feel him, you don't know what materials, formulae of the molecules it consists of , and just Absolutely KNOW.
And if the "casual" always there is any doubt in the knowledge, that Here doubt just do not exist, there is Absolute Knowledge...

2. The feeling of "Cause and effect". Not run in the mind causes (e.g., hunger) and consequences (e.g., buying food to eat and satisfy your hunger), and FEELING, seeing "cause and effect" some other sense.
the Feeling, the knowledge that God is the "cause and effect" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In this state, do not see, hear, and FEEL GOD, and this feeling is much more than all human senses combined (sight, smell, touch, hearing, taste) and the five senses sort of disappear and become absolutely necessary.
When I close my eyes, the feeling that you can do without the eye and vision, and still it all "see" and feel.

3. Absolute GRACE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (even as happiness does not seem to be in "daily life")

4.The feeling of his MIND as independent of body substance (mind just WATCHING). The feeling that the mind can independently (without a body) to exist, to move, to explore (the physical body acts as a ballast, it is not necessary).
Lost all of life's passions, they simply do not (anger, joy, happiness, sorrow, etc.)
Disappear without a trace all likes and dislikes to people and objects that surround you.
Perception of without emotion - just the surrounding IS

5. After leaving THIS state begin to realize that you are certainly GAIN much, but lose something from our familiar world...
COMPLETE LOSS OF PAIN. It seems that you have something selected, like a child select a toy, took away the suffering. I don't mean suffering like some sort of torture. And suffering as anger, rage, pity, joy to tears, a sense of human happiness (also probably a form of suffering). Suffering is an integral part of our existence, we can suffer and enjoy, to revel in the pain, - that I have when reading science fiction and listening to mp3-works "Model kit". The feeling of SUFFERING and HAPPINESS at the same time. How the CONTROLS are...To tears. Unforgettable feeling. And now I have it-it is all selected. Instead came the absolute Knowledge, Absolute Grace, feeling God ("cause and effect").... These feelings are UNFORGETTABLE, but I guess my mind clings to the familiar world, did a quarter of a century has already passed...
At the same time understand that suffering is a dead end, a vicious circle and need to move on...But... I don't know what to do...<

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Post by Евгений Кош » Sun Jan 18, 2009 18:27

Сириус wrote:don't Even know what to do...
continue to find myself .
when you find yourself similar questions will be less and less :)

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Post by НЕ_КРАСОТА » Mon Jan 19, 2009 13:01

I too since childhood, see my hands, and indeed all over your body, not only because sometimes even around it.
Sit and rejoice that I am. But what is not so?

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Post by Guest » Wed Jan 21, 2009 15:15

But using this machine, you don't happen when not zadumavalsya, maybe you just needed a brain so washed.
Why would anyone need people with super brain! Maybe it develops the brain but in the right Kama or there parolini and nothing more.
Because as tempting and obsurdno sounds that you can achieve something prietom not priloga not any effort as "Ivan the fool" in the furnace of the tale.
And if this is Udall once it accept the evidence of the legend.

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Post by Идущая вперед » Wed Jan 21, 2009 16:10

Гость wrote:But using this machine, you don't happen when not zadumavalsya, maybe you just needed a brain so washed.
Why would anyone need people with super brain! Maybe it develops the brain but in the right Kama or there parolini and nothing more.
Because as tempting and obsurdno sounds that you can achieve something prietom not priloga not any effort as "Ivan the fool" in the furnace of the tale.
And if this is Udall once it accept the evidence of the legend.
nope... it's not what you think... go gradual and effective improvement of health and mind... the effort you exert specific... ie you take MM wasting your time (concentration and visualization of this specific work and everyday) ie efforts you make constantly while developing... of stress makes your brain (the superconscious-conscious-subconscious)... people with spermogram need... to take a list Nikola Tesla or Einstein...but it is a natural phenomena... to develop to the limits with MM??? NOT HEARD ABOUT IT.... but with some effort and working on yourself every day, you can achieve quite tangible results and experience of positive feelings and emotions...
for example I have a drive lab Tomatis about whales... when I use my chest (where anahata) is lit malenjkoe the sun comes a sense of euphoria... it's just 1 example....AND YOU DON'T WANT TO OPEN UP A NEW WORLD FULL OF BRIGHT COLORS AND OTHER STATES OF CONSCIOUSNESS PATAMU THAT YOU RAN INTO A PILE OF REALITY :wiz :wiz :wiz

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Post by Guest » Tue Jan 27, 2009 21:23

Гость wrote:But using this machine, you don't happen when not zadumavalsya, maybe you just needed a brain so washed.

Why would anyone need people with super brain! Maybe it develops the brain but in the right Kama or there parolini and nothing more.

Because as tempting and obsurdno sounds that you can achieve something prietom not priloga not any effort as "Ivan the fool" in the furnace of the tale.

And if this is Udall once it accept the evidence of the legend.

I agree with "Going forward". Constant stress in zahajeni reality is not good for the psyche does not only develops psychosomatic illness... And the fear of the new has long been a peculiar man... only one walk over it and sit under the "blanket of the illusion of safety" head, afraid to stick his nose out. And can such individuals not to trap myself in masonry and continue to think that the world is flat, without interfering with the others to explore the world by all available means and ways?


PS the Vatican still apologized to Giordano Bruno... What is it that people are idiots.

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Post by Андрей tver » Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:16

But for completeness of answer will add the story of Elena – 45 years (YAROSLAVL)

Now many people say that they came to Earth from other planets in order to complete a mission. My incarnation on Earth and in the physical world - also the first! Before that my life was in the subtle, spiritual world. Here's what I remember about my life:



· And dense and subtle world – both the material worlds and their inhabitants are visible, but this visibility and materiality are different.

· Creatures have a body, only the body slim is the soul of the human from the astral body, the mental body and divine spirit.

· Slim shape plastic and agile, transparent and allow to see the subject from all sides, inside and out.

· Far and near is not determined by the number of kilometers, and thought and aspiration. There are no distances, but there is a space. Unattainable, something that cannot be touched by the idea and realize. To think about something passionately and to seek him means to have it around.

· Fine state is not the state of passivity, of inaction, there can be very active, truditsa and create.

· In the thin world communicate mentally and do not need different languages. But you can talk and words. Residents at all levels of the subtle world understand each other.

· Objects of the subtle world is real, have color, form, and outwardly little different from the subjects of the dense world. But they have no density and weight.

· This is a bright and colorful world, even more impressive than the earth.

· There is all that is on Earth – mountains, seas, forests, plants, fish, birds, people.

· Time in the subtle world there, but there's no clock.

· In the thin world everything is created by thought and the surrounding objects, and the movement of the body (it is not necessary to use muscular force).

· In the subtle world along with the five earthly senses and developed a sixth sense. There is a smell, touch, hearing, sight, taste.

· There you can just walk, can fly, and you can instantly move thousands of kilometers to another part of the Universe.

· Very grievous to the spirit world is a tight – need to get dressed, put on shoes, to have shelter, to earn money, take care of the body, eat, drink, breathe. None of this should be done in the subtle world.

· It is possible to live as well as I used to live on the Land – to build houses, cut firewood, eat, drink, carry water, stirring to speak a language – it all depends on your desires and fantasies.

· In the subtle world distribution occurs in layers or spheres automatically by the extension and vibration of energy in consonance internal content to corresponding sector. The magnetism of the spheres of space, attracting the spirits with a variety of savings so powerful that to resist it is impossible. The accumulation of light and dark spirit are different. On Earth both good and bad people touch, and there is impossible, the guardians of the spheres do not allow the invasion of inappropriate areas. (Although, from the top down you can visit any of the layers in the reverse direction is not.)

· A person on Earth depends on the people, position, home, wealth and other things. In the fine world all of this expires, any material dependence disappears, but remain feeling: sympathy and antipathies, of love and hate (by the way hate cables as much as love, so if you don't want to be with someone you hate, then forgive him). Feelings magnetically connect people with each other. No one here does not depend on anyone and only friendship, respect or indifference are of value here.

· In the subtle world the idea serves as a bridge connecting like-minded people. This applies to all thoughts. Is to change the thinking and the neighbors will disappear. The environment remains still thoughts.

· You can fly where you want to be there, which involve your higher aspirations, to be with those you love and who understands you because he thinks just to do what your soul wants to learn something that interests you and fulfill your most daring aspirations.
· In the subtle world is a lot of work. Work here modified, but still it's the same waste of energy. (Very similar to intellectual labor and creativity).

· Everything on Earth is created in the image and likeness, and therefore on Earth there's nothing was not in the subtle world, but in the subtle world there's a lot there on the Ground. Rather it is on Earth, but in an imperfect or rudimentary is reflected in fairy tales (flying carpets, magic wands, cloth-Samobranka, a cap of darkness).

· There are flowers and trees, but in the perfect form, as in the thin world everything is created by imagination, thought, and absolutely not supported by the physical support, since their growth does not need any assumptions and conditions. Enough imagination and energy of the cosmos.

· There are seas and oceans, but the water is not the material, that is not H2O, and lithium – the basis of life star.

· There's a lot of light and a riot of colors, which change the power of your imagination and subject to imagination. (The play of colors in the sky, for example)

· There is a sound and beautiful music, they are inside mood.

· There are wonderful scents as blooming gardens and flowers. But the flavor is there, not material energy and subject of thought too.

· There is sensation, but no pain, as pain is the alarm of the physical body warning about destruction, but in the subtle world there is matter and there is nothing to break down, so all the sensations are not dangerous and not destructive and their palette much wider on earth because there are no restrictions. (Soul does not burn in the fire when burns the body, the soul leaves intact).

· There is a very flexible air unrestrained body. These bodies can be from any medium – in a vacuum, in water, in fire, to pass through matter. (When the ball is thrown into the air he breaks the air, but the air is composed of atoms, while the subtle body is composed of energy and information.)

· Time on Earth has taste, and there too and on a much wider scale. What flavor is the energy, which has special characteristics. And energy galore. (They can make their charging energy capsules with different flavors, especially those who visited the Earth and became acquainted with the cooking). But the digestive and excretory systems are not there, because energy is absorbed immediately without trace, just joined your energy. Because of this you are facing obesity, you just gain more strength and capabilities, become more active (the excess energy can be spent on flying, creativity etc.).

· There lives a society of close creatures. Everyone is friendly and happy to see each other, but they are not angels, and not absolute perfection, but also not unfeeling omniscient robots, they are capable of feelings, moods, and development, as well as errors and misconceptions.

· There are no States, countries, races, nationalities, families – they are United only by the commonality of tastes and interests. Like attracts like. There is no need to live and work with the alien to the spirit creature.

· Everybody has his own world where he is the Creator and the Creator. The world is absolutely secure and fully matches your taste. (And everyone has different tastes, so the variety of worlds is inexhaustible).

· There is no loneliness, because you're telepathically connected with all your loved ones and at any moment can instantly move to them.

· You don't need to do things that you don't care, because your livelihood does not depend on this. You can even do nothing and not create and just sit consecutive centuries in one place and nothing to think. You need no food, nor in dreams, nor in oxygen, nor in the shelter. But you're driven by curiosity and imagination, thirst for knowledge and creativity, striving for perfection and beauty. They are all researchers and artists.<

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