Svetlitsa - Ekonorm - clearing space car

Post by **Владимир Никонов 2** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 16:33

That's what the article was about a similar device in the magazine "Behind the wheel":
one tablet is Enough...
Stargate the Russian absurd
see you in the air

Светлица - Эконорм

Карил · Post by **Карил** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 18:55

the inventors decided to joke and slipped... their "tablet" under the tank of calibration gas mixture (CGM). What came out of it was verified, after which the light has a very interesting Protocol. According to this Protocol, under the influence of "pills" on the amount of PGS (12 liters) is fixed "reducing co concentration in an enclosed volume of gas mixture" (see table).

Class!!!

Fall from chair...

Руслик · Post by **Руслик** » Thu May 21, 2009 10:40

Hello!

The site stated that the use of "Ekonorm" leads to:

-Reducing the toxicity of exhaust of the cars in the 2 – 10 times
-Fuel savings of 5 to 20%
-Reduction in engine noise...

Sorry, this is nonsense.
Exhaust emissions depend on the design features of the engine and the qualitative characteristics of the used fuel.
With the other mentioned advantages, the same thing.

Not durite people down.

Карил · Post by **Карил** » Thu May 21, 2009 10:47

Zipper
So that's just nonsense... And the article in the magazine "Behind the wheel", and the images in the GDV camera? That is, you think magazine "Behind the wheel" lied about the test in its "Volga"? And at the same time lied to all the people which the room have experienced, including me.

You have communicated on the site, read other people's posts before throwing such accusations.

Логик · Post by **Логик** » Thu May 21, 2009 10:51

Zipper,
This product is for believing, not thinking...

Hammer.

Руслик · Post by **Руслик** » Thu May 21, 2009 10:54

[quote="Carilo"]Zipper
So that's just nonsense... And the article in the magazine "Behind the wheel", and the images in the GDV camera? That is, you think magazine "Behind the wheel" lied about the test in its "Volga"? And at the same time lied to all the people which the room have experienced, including me.

You have communicated on the site, read other people's posts before throwing such accusations.[/quote

About the fact that all people using the Room, I did not. Do not sweeping statements.

There's the placebo effect. If you believe in something, it will come to you.

It is not the question. There's just the technical side of the question. The toxicity of emission is affected by engine design and fuel quality. Ekonorm in this particular case from the category of "the Impact of singing on vision" (may affect, but is unlikely to significantly).
I am professionally engaged in the quality of petroleum products, so I know whereof I speak.

Do not rely on the test "Behind the wheel". 2-5 % is the measurement error.

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Thu May 21, 2009 11:26

Руслик wrote:is not the Question. There's just the technical side of the question. The toxicity of emission is affected by engine design and fuel quality. Ekonorm in this particular case from the category of "the Impact of singing on vision" (may affect, but is unlikely to significantly).

Here is interesting information...
http://goloslogos.ru/list22.php
So maybe the vision You are mistaken...

Руслик wrote:No need to refer to the test "Behind the wheel". 2-5 % is the measurement error.

Руслик wrote:reducing the toxicity of exhaust of the cars in the 2 – 10 times
Fuel economy from 5 to 20%

Yeah, 5% is the standard error, but because I write from 5 to 20% and 2 (already 100%) - 10 times...

By the way, never heard of the placebo effect applies to equipment...

Руслик · Post by **Руслик** » Thu May 21, 2009 11:52

Андрей Патрушев wrote: By the way, never heard of the placebo effect applies to equipment...

Here I am not heard. I don't doubt the influence of bright-rooms per person (the same as placebo, at least).
I just don't understand how Ekonorm can affect the hardware. Well, there is no such ephemeral effects. Emissions depend on the system post-combustion gases, the sulphur content in the fuel and other technical characteristics.

Faith is important to humans, but not for iron.

Andrew!

Here the effectiveness of the Conductor, I have no doubt a drop. Thank You.

for the link to the article - special thanks. Have a read.

Анна-Виктория · Post by **Анна-Виктория** » Thu May 21, 2009 12:04

Руслик wrote:Hello!
The site stated that the use of "Ekonorm" leads to
Reducing the toxicity of exhaust of the cars in the 2 – 10 times
Fuel economy from 5 to 20%
To reduce engine noise
Sorry, this is nonsense.
Exhaust emissions depend on the design features of the engine and the qualitative characteristics of the used fuel.
With the other mentioned advantages, the same thing.
Not durite people down.

Good day Zipper!

I'm not going to argue with You as a professional in the field of quality oil, but I want to add your comments to:
Like any normal person, who trust his experience I decided to check how it works "Ekonorm", and that he is affected.
My father works as a taxi driver on.. you know a constantly large number of people passes for the day, 10-12 hours driving on urban roads, and the car is not very new, and periodically breaks down (the way it works on diesel). We have established he "Ekonorm".
The first thing that happened - it got better (more powerful) the engine work, the number of the number of people decreased scandals with passengers, and on the 20th day, indeed, his partner noticed reduce consumption of diesel! I'm not going to talk about reducing emissions, I just don't know (no measuring instruments)... but I think it's true!
But what is most interesting changes have occurred not only with the car, and with my beloved daddy... he became much quieter in communication, left aggression, which is inherent in practically all drivers... and the amazing thing is he color of the skin became much lighter. And his partner improved relationship with his wife (before installing "Ekonorma" it came to divorce)!!!

Here are the results...
And You dear Ruslik, before you shout that it's all nonsense ... go and discover!!!<

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Thu May 21, 2009 12:06

Ruslik,
I just pointed out the inaccuracy of Your claims...

I am also a specialist in petroleum products (as an expert-chemist having the special admission to the examinations produced by oil products)

So, I was personally acquainted, for example, a development where gasoline before it enters the engine processed loginmodulename UHF signal from similar to Parlor effects. Although, with the known theoretical point of view, is not to... So I try to refrain from categorical statements...
Now I have long (14 years) examinations do not, but You probably could perform independent research...

Руслик · Post by **Руслик** » Thu May 21, 2009 12:21

Андрей Патрушев wrote:Ruslik,
I just pointed out the inaccuracy of Your claims...
I am also a specialist in petroleum products (as an expert-chemist having the special admission to the examinations produced by oil products) So, I was personally acquainted, for example, a development where gasoline before it enters the engine loginmodulename processed microwave signal from similar to Parlor effects. Although, with the known theoretical point of view, is not to... So I try to refrain from categorical statements...
Now I have long (14 years) examinations do not, but You probably could perform independent research...

A signal emitter is mounted on the fuel feed path?
Allow for the possibility of changing certain properties of the product due to the structuring of SSE (if you remember the theory Sunyaev Z. I.). But how significant the effect is, that is the question.

Absolutely agree with You about categorical statements. Is my fad. I hope to have eliminated with the help of MM (alpha).
About independent expertise - I'm not interested, and besides, I don't work in a specialised institution, accredited to conduct such research, and in the oil company.

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Thu May 21, 2009 12:27

Руслик wrote:
Андрей Патрушев wrote:Ruslik,
I just pointed out the inaccuracy of Your claims...
I am also a specialist in petroleum products (as an expert-chemist having the special admission to the examinations produced by oil products) So, I was personally acquainted, for example, a development where gasoline before it enters the engine loginmodulename processed microwave signal from similar to Parlor effects. Although, with the known theoretical point of view, is not to... So I try to refrain from categorical statements...
Now I have long (14 years) examinations do not, but You probably could perform independent research...
A signal emitter is mounted on the fuel feed path?
Allow for the possibility of changing certain properties of the product due to the structuring of SSE (if you remember the theory Sunyaev Z. I.). But how significant the effect is, that is the question.

Absolutely agree with You about categorical statements. Is my fad. I hope to have eliminated with the help of MM (alpha).
About independent expertise - I'm not interested, and besides, I don't work in a specialised institution, accredited to conduct such research, and in the oil company.

Yes, the emitter was standing directly in front of the carb. The effect was significant. When compared with the Parlor, then three times (even had the carb to override)...

Кирилл Коротков · Post by **Кирилл Коротков** » Fri May 22, 2009 16:32

About "song and vision" - Acutonics - sound therapy http://acutonics.kirlian.ru/

about how does some kind of thing on a car engine to be honest - I don't know but it seems working...

Post by **АСД** » Wed May 27, 2009 3:20

Руслик wrote:
Андрей Патрушев wrote: By the way, never heard of the placebo effect applies to equipment...

Here I am not heard. I don't doubt the influence of bright-rooms per person (the same as placebo, at least).
I just don't understand how Ekonorm can affect the hardware. Well, there is no such ephemeral effects. Emissions depend on the system post-combustion gases, the sulphur content in the fuel and other technical characteristics.

Faith is important to humans, but not for iron.

There are a lot of things unknown in our lives, and of course you want to deal with this. So you believe in the system afterburning and think you understand how it works. And there is a catalyst, which itself is not consumed, but its presence accelerates a chemical reaction. Let's assume Ekonorm this catalyst, only the outer (assocamerestero).
Although environmental indicators, we believe a positive side effect. The main thing - the reduction of accidents by increasing the accuracy and quality of decisions of the driver. According to our estimates reduce the likelihood of the insured event from the application Ekonorma - 30-40%. That's where the real effects. After all, Russia is in first place for accidents. A million machines 939 deaths per year.
But safety is difficult to control. It is necessary to collect statistics. And the content of harmful substances in the exhaust of the car is quite easy to track down. So do not believe it is necessary to measure.

Руслик · Post by **Руслик** » Wed May 27, 2009 9:55

АСД wrote:there are a Lot of things unknown in our lives, and of course you want to deal with this. So you believe in the system afterburning and think you understand how it works. And there is a catalyst, which itself is not consumed, but its presence accelerates a chemical reaction. Let's assume Ekonorm this catalyst, only the outer (assocamerestero).

A good example with a catalytic Converter. I'm still in school I thought that the theory of catalysis is largely far-fetched and, if I may say so, Axioma.

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:24

Friends, have any results on the Ekonorma?And they bought several pieces and silence...

Телец · Post by **Телец** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 18:34

Anna Victoria,
where you Ekonorm housed under the fuel tank or the driver's seat? And face up or face down?
The manual says face down, which I think is highly questionable.

Post by **АСД** » Sat Jun 06, 2009 1:00

Телец wrote:Anna Victoria,
where you Ekonorm housed under the fuel tank or the driver's seat? And face up or face down?
The manual says face down, which I think is highly questionable.

That the user is in doubt?

Телец · Post by **Телец** » Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:48

"Installation:
1. Put Ekonorm the vehicle under the seat, label side down."
What will influence Ekonorm if its front face is directed away from the driver? Primarily interested in traffic safety.

Post by **АСД** » Sat Jun 06, 2009 16:46

Телец wrote:, "Order of installation:
1. Put Ekonorm the vehicle under the seat, label side down."
What will influence Ekonorm if its front face is directed away from the driver? Primarily interested in traffic safety.

It's not only the label, and the structure, which is located inside the housing of the device. And since with this arrangement, the label focused on the driver. It should also be noted that Ekonorm works on the whole person-car. This is one system on the road. And structure of this system in common. It works Ekonorm. Restoring the connectivity of this structure and allows the driver to perceive the traffic situation more adequately, and increases safety. Car too if it improves their performance, since the quality of the structure depends on the performance of the car. Improvement of vehicle parameters can be measured (e.g. exhaust emissions or fuel consumption).

Телец · Post by **Телец** » Sat Jun 06, 2009 19:13

АСД wrote:
Телец wrote:, "Order of installation:
1. Put Ekonorm the vehicle under the seat, label side down."
What will influence Ekonorm if its front face is directed away from the driver? Primarily interested in traffic safety.
It's not only the label, and the structure, which is located inside the housing of the device. And since with this arrangement, the label focused on the driver. It should also be noted that Ekonorm works on the whole person-car. This is one system on the road. And structure of this system in common. It works Ekonorm. Restoring the connectivity of this structure and allows the driver to perceive the traffic situation more adequately, and increases safety. Car too if it improves their performance, since the quality of the structure depends on the performance of the car. Improvement of vehicle parameters can be measured (e.g. exhaust emissions or fuel consumption).

Thank you for your prompt response. "Label" is written in the instructions to the Ekonorma, I like the word "sticker".That is, the working or front side Ekonorma without a sticker (which is very illogical because a Chamber-super working or front side with sticker).Thus, the working party should be directed to the driver if the front room under the seat or fuel tank if the tank. Right? Will there be room under the tank to work on the driver, i.e. do they have enough range?

гость · Post by **гость** » Sun Jun 07, 2009 1:51

I wonder if ekonorm to attach to the bike? And use it say in the competition - since the device does not matter what fuel saving and what a drive from a mobile device. Commercials in five years ekonorm ban - as energy-doping

Post by **АСД** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:03

гость wrote:I Wonder if ekonorm to attach to the bike? And use it say in the competition - since the device does not matter what fuel saving and what a drive from a mobile device. Commercials in five years ekonorm ban - as energy-doping

On this subject, we wrote Olympic champion Tatiana Navka.
"I can appreciate this device from the standpoint of the athletes. You know how hard in sports doping control, and I thought it was funny that the donor of the power and energy front room could become a kind of "secret weapon" of Russian athletes!
Of course it requires a major system test of this invention of Russian scientists, perhaps it is really a great potential use in sports such unbarred and useful energy doping"

Анна-Виктория · Post by **Анна-Виктория** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:16

Телец wrote:, "Order of installation:
1. Put Ekonorm the vehicle under the seat, label side down."
What will influence Ekonorm if its front face is directed away from the driver? Primarily interested in traffic safety.

Cars under the driver's seat, and gruzovyh or bus, under the fuel tank... label on the bottom (i.e. towards the road)!
Ekonorm effect on the driver the General structure of the driver, vehicle and the road.
We ekonorm is on marshrutno taxi, which all day carrying people. Security increased by 100%!

(Tested ZANUSSI)

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 14:11

Bought Ekonorm father as a gift today, look what Yes as...

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