A beginner and a mind machine, or how to get the most

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Re: Newbie and mind machine or how to get the most

Post by Виктор... » Tue Oct 25, 2016 21:53

Andrew, good evening.
I started in order to resolve problems with concentration of attention, concentration, memory. As You wrote, look at the book, see Fig. Not on their own as You know. It's hard for me to put it all together from different forums. So please help.
I listened to the first stage 15 days the alpha. While much improvement there, except the desire to continue to move forward.
1. I read that you can start the sessions (pumping betta). But is it possible if I have not achieved the desired result when pumping alpha?
2. If Yes, then you can move 15 alpha, 15 beta to get the desired result?
3. I have a difficult time. Hard to find in the listening (especially the Explorer 1.10 hours) adhering to the schedule. Is it possible to cut into shorter segments and listen to them? And it does not disappear from this effect? In this case, I can listen to 3-4 times a day.

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Re: Newbie and mind machine or how to get the most

Post by Андрей Патрушев » Tue Oct 25, 2016 23:58

Victor...
Hello.
Problems with concentration as characterized by excess alpha-theta waves and lack of beta waves. Thus, You immediately had to begin with the sessions of the E. alpha session you can do in the evening (before bed), if you have problems falling asleep.
All "navoroty" highly desirable to listen without interruption. In fact, all other drives (except Исцеления2) you can listen to "pieces".

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Re: Newbie and mind machine or how to get the most

Post by Виктор... » Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:52

Thank you very much!

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Re: Newbie and mind machine or how to get the most

Post by ГлебФ » Fri Sep 29, 2017 15:19

Hello,chose 2 sessions.One of the relaxation,the second of the meditations ,I Want to work with them on a regular basis .What mode should adhere to?

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Fri Sep 29, 2017 15:44

Gleb
Hello.
Everything is already written - read first, while in only five pages. :)
Or ask specific questions.

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Re: Newbie and mind machine or how to get the most

Post by Тепло в пустоте » Fri Dec 08, 2017 19:17

Hello!
I read somewhere that if you listen to the binaural session, with headphones, while placing your head between two speakers, where sound the same session, the effectiveness of sessions will increase. Has anyone tried that? Your experience, comments etc....

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Fri Dec 08, 2017 19:51

Тепло в пустоте wrote:if you listen to the binaural session, with headphones, while placing your head between two speakers, where sound the same session, the effectiveness of the sessions will increase
No. Quite the contrary. :?

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Post by Шура » Wed Jan 03, 2018 19:36

Tell me, what are the frequency characteristics of the headphone in InnerPulse + Premium (Photosonix)?

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Re: Newbie and mind machine or how to get the most

Post by Лева » Tue Jul 03, 2018 16:35

Is machine Innerpulse, in fact worked with her regularly.. mostly used as audiostrobe decoder drives.. Well the result in fact, but there is some problems with the car not related ((( weak concentration of attention, constantly in a hurry, irritable, problems sleeping long enough there is a slight ringing in my ears. Assuming I don't have the alpha, came to the conclusion that we must still work out systematically for 21 days to start with sessions R on innerpulse and then continue on the Navigator, which from day to day I ordered. If I'm working with sessions R can I just before going to bed to enable session S for sleep or this is unacceptable as there are frequency drops to theta and Delta ? That did in fact beginners should listen to if you have problems with falling asleep and staying asleep? fall asleep at best for an hour from 8-9 hours of sleep the slow-wave sleep 2 hours ...... bc

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Tue Jul 03, 2018 17:29

Шура wrote:Tell me, what are the frequency characteristics of the headphone in InnerPulse + Premium (Photosonix)?
Normal - 20Hz-20kHz.

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Tue Jul 03, 2018 17:35

Лева wrote:If I work with sessions R can I just before going to bed to enable session S for sleep or this is unacceptable as there are frequency drops to theta and Delta ? That did in fact beginners should listen to if you have problems with falling asleep and staying asleep? fall asleep at best for an hour from 8-9 hours of sleep the slow-wave sleep 2 hours ...... bc
Innerpulse good machine - why spend the extra money (better retire put :wink: )?
Yes, of course, to listen to, but to no avail: https://cloud.mail.ru/public/FFti/sCca9LbRs Best when sleep problems help session R. Also often help L01, L02.

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Post by Лева » Tue Jul 03, 2018 17:55

Андрей Патрушев wrote:
Лева wrote:If I work with sessions R can I just before going to bed to enable session S for sleep or this is unacceptable as there are frequency drops to theta and Delta ? That did in fact beginners should listen to if you have problems with falling asleep and staying asleep? fall asleep at best for an hour from 8-9 hours of sleep the slow-wave sleep 2 hours ...... bc
Innerpulse good machine - why spend the extra money (better retire put :wink: )?
Yes, of course, to listen to, but to no avail: https://cloud.mail.ru/public/FFti/sCca9LbRs Best when sleep problems help session R. Also often help L01, L02.
no extra money, but interpuls this extra wire and I have something is not the same when you connect to it the laptop or the phone drive .. there's something in Raziel 3.5 leaves that is normally in the mode audiostrobe drives etc to use it already nelsey. thought about casino which impresses with its compactness and nyashnost pendosy on Amazon in prinipe normal for her to respond , but I think the Navigator is certainly possible wider + all that is on this forum is written mostly under him

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Post by Хабаровскийжитель » Sun Jul 08, 2018 16:21

Hello!
Please tell me WUAs Navigator 2 to Khabarovsk, and how long will it take weeks? Do you have a mind machine?


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Post by Андрей Кабанков » Sun Jul 08, 2018 16:48

Navigator 2 is always on sale, delivery from Moscow to Khabarovsk by mail EMS 3-4 days.
The link he is.

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Post by Виктория Рожкова » Sun Jun 23, 2019 22:32

Hello! Recently bought the car Lumina, studied the forum started.
Beginning with the alpha sessions, 10-15 minutes, was doing 5 days 1 time per day.
Immediately felt a change, but they are extremely unusual, even strange. The feeling that the confusion appeared, hovering. It became difficult to log out of his thoughts, began to think for a longer time than usual.
In the afternoon go to relax, close my eyes and seemed immediately to fall asleep.
I'm a little scared this condition, put a MM in a week. The condition became more familiar. But not quite.
Was sharper to react to a simple situation. If feelings escalated. Angry very much.
Is this normal? And why is this happening?
On the forum I read that if abused B sessions, internal "trample" from the subconscious, but I listened to the alpha.

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Sun Jun 23, 2019 23:11

Victoria RozhkovaHello.
In principle, this is normal. Senses, but getting stuck as before does not occur.
Probably, You have long been repressed anger out on someone. Now this anger fades.
I recommend to read this opus

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Post by Виктория Рожкова » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:08

Andrew, thank You for your opus! Studied.
About pent-up feelings-Yes, I was holding them up. And if you showed anger, especially against children-felt like a "bad mom" guilt.
Now deal with the feelings, looking for ways to "green" their symptoms.
If you want even more smoothly and safely to gain the alpha level and do the circuit in 2 days on the third (as in opus) - which scheme to adhere to?
To achieve the performance criteria?

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:27

Виктория Рожкова wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:08
If you want even more smoothly and safely to gain the alpha level and do the circuit in 2 days on the third (as in opus) - which scheme to adhere to?
Do not understand :? The same scheme two days later on the third. :)
In fact, the alpha level is safe - can stick to any schema.

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Post by Виктория Рожкова » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:30

Not making myself clear) :)
Can you please tell how many sessions the number you need when doing in 2 days?
For example there is a scheme involved 15 days 15 days break.
What's the scheme here?
And how many days to take a break after finishing one cycle?
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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Mon Jun 24, 2019 13:24

Виктория Рожкова wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:30
Want to know how many sessions the number you need when doing in 2 days?
The same 15(or 21), with a break at 15 (or 21) days.


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Post by к-13 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 19:33

Виктория Рожкова wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2019 22:32
Hello! Recently bought the car Lumina, studied the forum started.
Beginning with the alpha sessions, 10-15 minutes, was doing 5 days 1 time per day.
Immediately felt a change, but they are extremely unusual, even strange. The feeling that the confusion appeared, hovering. It became difficult to log out of his thoughts, began to think for a longer time than usual.
In the afternoon go to relax, close my eyes and seemed immediately to fall asleep.
I'm a little scared this condition, put a MM in a week. The condition became more familiar. But not quite.
Was sharper to react to a simple situation. If feelings escalated. Angry very much.
Is this normal? And why is this happening?
I have three questions (just for the exact answer not enough data):
1. And You, casually, not in front of the sleep session, listening? For some users this causes a disturbance of sleep rhythms (in that case, if the sessions in addition to the alpha are higher frequencies).
2. Volume/brightness You set up or left the one that was? Usually, the default in the machine is excessive brightness (so when the first alpha testing session cause more vivid images). It is better to set the minimum alpha stimulation of excessive levels of light and sound (and with the relaxation of the sensory system enhances the sensitivity and completely normal levels can be excessive) it may seem the brain is aggressive, he will begin to use mechanisms of protection, then the symptoms are similar. Plus, if You have repressed psychological trauma associated with loud sounds or flashes of light (and they almost all are somehow present from early childhood) excessive volume/brightness can slowly swing that will also give similar symptoms.
3. About these "zatormozhennostp" are You sure? Perhaps the reason that day in the usual daily waking You start to go outside the box due to a new state - the perception to notice new options for the functioning, the brain may be a little distracted on the construction of new behavioral patterns. Because man essentially is a biosocial machine, most of the time, the brain analyzes the situation and makes decisions, and acts out of habit - he's got a huge set of successful solutions on almost all occasions, and if the situation is not much different solutions, too - you can go home or to work without the distraction of the route, you can perform the routine work is completely mentally immersed in something completely unrelated (and in a few minutes the man himself do not remember, what I was thinking - for him this is routine work). Alpha dulls a little internal monologue, the computing power of the brain freed a bit and can be used to search for additional variants of functioning, finding more optimal solutions. But if such an option is, for their analysis of consciousness distracted more significant computing power, which affects the total concentration/attention/performance.<

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Post by Виктория Рожкова » Sun Jul 14, 2019 23:22

K-13 Thank you for Your answer!! :)

1. Yes, I actually listened to the session right before bedtime.
Select a schema for classes of 15 days do 15 days of rest, listen to 7 days to r1 (7-11 Hz) and 8 days r2 (3-15 Hz), the time of the sessions - 5 minutes. Decided to start gradually)
The first 15 days of workout, a break now.
The first few nights, had nightmares for a couple of days was insomnia, fell asleep in the morning.

2. The volume and brightness set to the minimum, in glasses puts scarf rolled 2 times, because it is very bright it seemed.

3. Lethargy was definitely present, I like the option with the broken rhythms of sleep, this seems to be true. Hence, cranky and emotional background.

Better to do during the day? I have a small child, and I can do either in the morning or before bed, or a day in rabinkin sleep.
I'm thinking in the next cycle of classes only listen to the beats without his glasses, painfully do not want the repetition of negative effects(

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Post by Виктория Рожкова » Sun Jul 14, 2019 23:41

My husband swore on MM, told her I had become, and it was so. Now 5 days of not listening, everything returned to normal, and even I noticed the improvement (my husband really doesn't admit that there is progress, but maybe not so much)

1. Became more responsive, more sensitive to the moment.
Walking with a younger child, he was walking on a high thin border. I see that clearly now will fall. Of course she was right. He gave me a pen, go together, insure it. And inside FEAR. Feel it with all my heart. Hate to feel, go on, remember that the emotion will pass and everything just need to past the time. So Went went for 5-7 minutes, fear was calmed down.
And I think that this is something out of the subconscious? More such did not repeat.

Often reacting to it with laughter.

2. Became "more itself".
For example in yoga class previously, more attention was paid to the fact that other people do. Who it turns out, one not.
Now "leaving in itself", the less I look around, feeling more his carcass)

3. Realize completely the meaning of the phrase "does not live well, nothing to start", and the phrase "the one who got to the end of the classroom with MM" (i.e. went through all the possible levels and passed through negative effects).

But I wonder, if after 15 days of practicing for 5 minutes, I find such changes, what happens to me when I start to make for 15-40 minutes a day??

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