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Post by линоблэк » Mon Sep 24, 2012 23:24

Read the whole forum and the forum of openimageio: impression of a very negative attitude towards children conceived using IVF. Well, not so negative, but rather dismissive, like: "and...well, if EKO, the all clear....". Why? but if there's no other way to conceive it now, not in eleven years?

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Post by Михаил_ » Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:58

1. with the issue of eco is not so simple to explain why-well, that would be "from beyond". Ie I can answer, but the answer will be absolutely for many, beyond a reasonable perception.
2. who told You that there is no other way???? sorry if this is the doctors ... I don't know how to say it softer.
Our friend, who has 20 years experience in practice, sujok therapy, was recently (well a couple of years ago) a case where a couple came to conceive could not, them the doctor said (the man) that soon he will give birth to.... they had a child. Problems there were two. And .... first, they suddenly cat acetylase :) (so to say touched the edge of it in some way in the family, it was stanila), and then normal pregnancy..... without IVF.
Similar told Burley the seminar ndtsat years ago, they often came up with the same problem and solution was not medical.
And so on and so forth.
3. The problem with IVF is not just about the baby. Now, after ECO You will be VERY HARD to help with the usual pregnancy.. Believe me, it's a move in one direction, without return.
4. Of course all children are children.... and negatively about them is not correct. But the children born of IVF - they were all very simple.
More discussed this topic on my forum earlier. Why do you think the IVF twins so much? and they are so different?
It's not just kids and I didn't know you knew, however, that in this way they fall into this world.
From the point of view of energy processes, any conception occurring in a natural way, this column of energy from the process generated by the pair that creates a thing known "astral traveller" and healers as the "silver thread" - is what connects the physics of the nascent body and soul. Is really existing object, it's seen very very many have tried or spontaneously conscious of the experience of the WTO (outputs body).
Silver thread is one of the factors influencing life expectancy and human health from conception to death. In fact, death is her cliff. And thinning often is the cause of chronic diseases or congenital sometimes.
So when ECO - the threads are not where will. I.e., formally, such a conception from the point of view of those who know the process not by hearsay - it is not possible (by the way, seen the article of the Russian scientist, who wrote that absolutely seriously similar problems associated for example with a controlled incarnation of a given person in a given body, there are several research institutes in USA, Europe, course work, closed).
Therefore, doctors implanted the embryo, but someone has to create the relationship that you create is usually the parents.
While ECO and there is quite a long time.... This means that there is some another process interested in it, exercising in some way "magical" part of the job.
And this means that this party chooses who will be born.
And in normal process it goes through resonance with the parents (who are closer to their "sound")
Well that's about it.
I presented a small part of the problem, because the information is not perceived in its absurdity for the average person. Sorry.
By the way analyze familiar with IVF where children are not just born, find out how many of them someone who has already cancer or other pathology is very serious. And remember my words.
While there was not a single eco, normal conception really help.<

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Re: EKO

Post by димыч » Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:34

Michael, and what kind of relationship such children have with BJ and other things, you wrote that the Earth perceives them as strangers?
the quote is now found but the meaning is something like this
you are advised to look among friends with eco kids disease in adults ( received as punishment?) or have children?

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Re: EKO

Post by Михаил_ » Tue Sep 25, 2012 11:49

1. very often one of the two (at birth couples) or one (if the child is only one) is in some ways a stranger, i.e. a man from another world with different rules and perhaps different body. Therefore, it's sick and poorly aligned with our biosphere. The second child (whose health is better) of a pair of twins IVF, usually on a level of consciousness much easier. Ie, one of the more wise, like a little adult, and often sick at the same time, and the second seems to be not a couple - more simple, but more than a child.
2. among children. Known I post.pathology in adults, including in the presence of different pregnancies (and not eco - friendly, too) that even in the treatment of problems of pregnancy in the normal way does not want to have to come. I think it is associated with certain disorders in mothers.
3. I forgot yesterday to post to tell the story of sujok and a couple, which most likely could get pregnant only the doctor (in his own words). When there is a woman zaberemenila, they to this doctor came in, and even seems to have observed in him before the birth (like this one in cool recognized highly paid professionals in the MSC in this area, a pair of wealthy), he of course was very surprised and began to ask them how they succeeded, "I" says - " others with a similar problem your doctor will advise, let's work together many help." When he heard that the treatment was reflexology, for some reason his interest in the question immediately dried up. Isn't it funny?
Especially when you consider that reflexology officially recognized by the field of medicine is taught in most of our "honeys" on the specialized core departments and the best specialists of this profile all the years of Soviet and other authorities was popular and was available in a good departmental and other medical institutions.
Well, Yes, in ordinary clinics a "specialist" usually the zeros on the real capabilities and knowledge of the subject....
but the funny thing is that the doctor did not even asked who carried out the treatment, how long, location.... before that, however, actively "wanted" to help many.
I do from our medicine take aback......
4. As will a BJ - I don't know, possible options. I think each case is individual. In General, the children themselves are not to blame in this story, they just want somewhere to be born and to give that up and let the "left" way above their strength. But I would better recommend to take children of the child if it does not work with her. Yes, there are too many children with problems, but in the end you can also see them.... there is already on behavior and development is seen.
5. actually I almost accidentally brought in this topic for answers then I do not answer :) ie I don't read tail of the forum, just no time, but sometimes, when from the title page to the forum I go, I see there on the right of the last active threads and out of curiosity sometimes I go to read not their own. And so - the lack of time gives me the opportunity for such luxury. Ie I think the main thing to support operational responses in the relevant subjects, because it is people need. Well, there is of course also necessary, but I mean, that is never guaranteed to wait for my reaction to the threads at the bottom of the forum, even if I took in some momet part in the discussion, I simply then months may not have time to read physically (not enough time).<

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Re: EKO

Post by ведьмочка » Tue Jan 14, 2014 14:43

I have a good friend working in the hospital, a midwife. a little "versed" in human energy)) so she says that the children of EKO most resemble plastic dolls, ie not only on energy (they are "lifeless" to some, according to her), but in appearance they are very different from children conceived naturally

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Re: EKO

Post by димыч » Wed Jan 15, 2014 15:12

IVF can lead to serious genetic failures
http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=1132491&cid=2161

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Post by Патрик12 » Mon Apr 29, 2019 22:59

Interesting information. Feel sorry for people who have to resort to IVF 8)

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Post by Аине » Wed Jun 05, 2019 15:13

I personally don't think so everything is clear with silver threads. The candle, as they say, in such moments, no one holds, but who knows who.. But all of the estimates purely subjective in such moments.
Somewhere earlier I read that experiments with cloning gone wrong, as we would like. Apparently they decided to approach the process the other way. In principle, the idea is feasible. In-vitro fertilization. The first stage is passed, then the implantation in the maternal endometrium. In San Diego last year the girl was born at 23 weeks weighing just 245 grams. Previously it was thought that to bear fruit from 500 gr. We have at least. It turns out that the mother's body is almost not needed. There was one period of organogenesis. There probably plugging science. Until you come up with an environment where you can bring the pregnancy until 12-14 weeks if not in the mother's body, so no problems. But I think all in front. And IVF children are not what they seem, I personally explain to myself how the lack of hormonal activity of the parent body, which affects the emotional development of the fetus. The system mother-fetus, everything the mother feels, the fetus, the incubator can give physiological comfort, and emotions will be permanent. My child always raged when I went to the car. And this was accompanied by certain biochemical reactions. Everything is thought out, consistently. Therefore, these children seem empty at birth, or Vice versa sausage more of them when growing up-hypothalamic-pituitary system is not ready for peace. Well, genetic failures are naturally more obvious, maybe the mother's body is fueled by artificially if there is a failure in the system, then he may shoot, and genetics.
And by the way not only sujok reanimates the body. Sometimes positive stress helps. I know a couple who could not, by all indicators, when they moved on and lived for myself but not monotonically ka as usual, but with a twinkle. then was a surprise.

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