Flood and flame from Sedona

Drain off all negative, but with the hope that something good will sprout...
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Post by ЖСЛ » Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:20

Андрей Патрушев wrote:I used this method long ago. Wrote a couple of articles and posted on the Internet even up to 5 years in the emergence of translated book (by the way, in Cuba today, this book is in my edition). Conducted classes at the Institute with students. Those who are really engaged, then she thanked me. The method is very simple in its effectiveness, so many people... I was convinced during the lessons on self-development that really works only for simple methods.
Going to do an audio course on the method, but still very busy...
And he better Turbo Gopher?

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Fri Sep 05, 2008 16:45

ЖСЛ wrote:
Андрей Патрушев wrote:I used this method long ago. Wrote a couple of articles and posted on the Internet even up to 5 years in the emergence of translated book (by the way, in Cuba today, this book is in my edition). Conducted classes at the Institute with students. Those who are really engaged, then she thanked me. The method is very simple in its effectiveness, so many people... I was convinced during the lessons on self-development that really works only for simple methods.
Going to do an audio course on the method, but still very busy...
And he better Turbo Gopher?
To each his own... :?

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Post by ЖСЛ » Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:53

Татьяна wrote:Turbo Gopher as guards.I wanted to try.but decided not to. Sedona method what is friendly!
There are some things in Gopher, which personally, I quickly realized how cool this dude is. Really cool, I assure you :ay Sedona puppy next to him.

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Post by Татьяна » Sun Sep 07, 2008 15:19

Here's me and guard. Let Sedona "puppy",but I don't want to be so cool after a Gopher. And I didn't like the presentation.
And then.what is not allowed to tell anyone about their rezultatah.There is no discussion forum as ,for example,on disks Patrushev.
Really really dumb to get involved in something,not knowing what might happen.
And You do the Gopher?Can though that that to tell?

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Sun Sep 07, 2008 15:48

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Татьяна wrote:Turbo Gopher as guards.I wanted to try.but decided not to. Sedona method what is friendly!
There are some things in Gopher, which personally, I quickly realized how cool this dude is. Really cool, I assure you :ay Sedona puppy next to him.
"Everyone chooses for themselves
woman, religion, way.
To devil to serve or to the prophet.
Everyone chooses for themselves"...
From cool dude PR style, lots of profanity, and all imbued with the idea of struggle with himself...
From the point of view of psychology the book is primitive and calculated on the psychology of a teenager.
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Post by ЖСЛ » Sun Sep 07, 2008 17:57

Татьяна wrote:Here's me and guard. Let Sedona "puppy",but I don't want to be so cool after a Gopher.
don't be.
You play sports go to the world champion or a regular athlete, if you had a choice?
Татьяна wrote: And I didn't like the presentation.
You have cheap or go? Form gorgeous - all of the case.
Татьяна wrote: really Really dumb to get involved in something,not knowing what might happen.
Will not be worse :lol:
And You do the Gopher?Can though that that to tell?
No. But well see who is who. Can evaluate izhodya from their knowledge and experience.

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Post by ЖСЛ » Sun Sep 07, 2008 18:05

Андрей Патрушев wrote:cool dude From PR style of presentation, a lot of profanity, and all imbued with the idea of struggle with himself...
From the point of view of psychology the book is targeted at the psychology of a teenager
From the point of view of a normal person, without manure in the head - the book is designed for practical application with maximum efficiency.

However, the author done in the fact that, as he wrote at the end of the book - the writing style is a barrier... which will be held only by those who need it. Or something like that :)

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Sun Sep 07, 2008 19:27

ЖСЛ wrote:
Андрей Патрушев wrote:cool dude From PR style of presentation, a lot of profanity, and all imbued with the idea of struggle with himself...
From the point of view of psychology the book is targeted at the psychology of a teenager
From the point of view of a normal person, without manure in the head - the book is designed for practical application with maximum efficiency.
Here and I about the same. "A Holy place is never empty" - if manure in the head yet, it is urgently necessary to "merge".
ЖСЛ wrote:But the author is good in the fact that, as he wrote at the end of the book - the writing style is a barrier... which will be held only by those who need it. Or something like that :)
Yes, as teenagers are very well underway on this. The sense of belonging to a select group very much at this age and style are very suitable...:(

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Post by ЖСЛ » Sun Sep 07, 2008 20:56

Андрей Патрушев wrote:Here and I about the same. "A Holy place is never empty" - if manure in the head yet, it is urgently necessary to "merge".
Manure in the head the current children are happy there.
ЖСЛ wrote:Yes, as teenagers are very well underway on this. The sense of belonging to a select group very much at this age and style are very suitable...:(
The stamps clean. They have a very limit life.

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Post by Татьяна » Sun Sep 07, 2008 23:20

ЖСЛ wrote:do You have cheap or go? Form gorgeous - all of the case.
Don't like profanity
ЖСЛ wrote:will not be Worse
Now not so bad
ЖСЛ wrote:No. But well see who is who. Can evaluate izhodya from their knowledge and experience.
Sorry,I do not understand how you can judge what you yourself have not experienced

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Post by Татьяна » Sun Sep 07, 2008 23:28

Андрей Патрушев wrote:From the point of view of psychology the book is targeted at the psychology of a teenager.
Oh,I would not want that adolescents have become so "cool dudes"

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Post by ЖСЛ » Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:16

Татьяна wrote:don't like profanity
Russian language is discussed at appropriate forums and the state Duma. Here to discuss technology.
Татьяна wrote: will not be Worse
Now not so bad
Then why do you like literature? Or are you saying that a little bit cleaned out your attic? I know what it is on their skin, and people passed through it - not worried about any nonsense.
Profanity... in the book, foreshadowing all the circles of hell your soul :lol: You even start to work, you little things will not care, and the rigidity of the squirrel - positive rate 8)
ЖСЛ wrote:No. But well see who is who. Can evaluate izhodya from their knowledge and experience. Sorry,I do not understand how you can judge what you yourself have not experienced
I speak about the authors, their competence. Author gopher cooler by several orders of magnitude. The man dug to the bottom of things and understands what he's dealing with.

PS. I'll reveal a secret - and Sedona, and Gopher and Castaneda and the Bible with toltekam - all about the same, but under a different wrapper. To clarify - in a different style of presentation :lol:

A man with a clean attic do not care about the wrapper, he estimates the quality of the candy.

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Post by Татьяна » Mon Sep 08, 2008 22:34

ZHSL! Thank you for the communication.
I made my choice. Tell us more about
I remain unconvinced

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Post by ЖСЛ » Mon Sep 08, 2008 23:13

Татьяна wrote:ZHSL! Thank you for the communication.
I made my choice. Tell us more about
Yes we did not say, alas.
Татьяна wrote: I Remain unconvinced
But if karma climb? You know LIKE this? bc

Gopher cope with it much more effectively. Will work out in life, perhaps in the next, as this may not be 8)

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Post by ЖСЛ » Tue Sep 09, 2008 20:52

A turbo is a must-no wheels ... too aggressive
And on the other, the attic is not cleaned :wink:

I know even more terrible cleaning. Karmic energy. The sky is the limit. And Cho?
back for the loot (and mamaloe)
So do not pay.
the man (I found his biography,what he was doing, etc.) a simple a former black marketeer,mastyryat Internet projects,turbousa only one of them,
And you wanted to be a doctor? So he'll beat, if he starts to operate real terms. Nor would he.

And the author of the gopher done. Sees the root, and immediately. Than me and hooked.
and obviously the man wants to plant for themselves...
He then give the info otherwise ;)
And Sidon I think really works,sometimes when I'm all alone,comes the idea that all the garbage and all is well,switch to something else-the problem is solved,but how to release emotions I don't know though cut!!!!(((((I would like to palchick one thread explained this process that is felt at the moment of release, etc.-would be immensely grateful!!!!
Emotionwise, to suppress the emotion - the last thing. Will come out after all :) But if the root dig - will remove the root cause ;)

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Post by ЖСЛ » Wed Sep 10, 2008 22:09

Dimas wrote:I Have today like happened in the subway!A man rushes to meet me on the other side of the transition,where should not go,that is against the current..Confuses everyone pushes,I think I'll just not move and strikes him on the plywood,so that the breath stolen,the type will know how to break the rules of metropolisartprize :evil: :) then I remembered the Sedona,because you just read while traveling,he strained the whole,slouchy like a demon,quickly imagined a fist,relaxed,unclenched his fist, and let me go QUITE
No, Gopher is better than Sedona, definitely!
After such emotions simply arise and all, and in addition will be able to respond adequately to such a situation. Say, author of the gopher is the man, sees the root :)
Татьяна wrote: Me too annoying when jostling in transport,the legs go
Horror! I'm not even invisible, apparently because it did not react :?

Or maybe because transport themselves find interesting and fun lesson - stick to the girls in the etheric body :wink:

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Post by Евгений Кош » Wed Sep 10, 2008 23:40

ЖСЛ wrote:Quote:
And turbo is a must-no wheels ... too aggressive
And on the other, the attic is not cleaned on a Wink

I know even more terrible cleaning. Karmic energy. The sky is the limit. And Cho?
:)
Creepy is just something invented by your own brain :)

The book is nothing new, because the method is not of the author, and the author just added "clean guys 'bluff" and a little confused in some places (just a couple) that he really wants to say.

I see no reason to complicate the working method to the level below, as the author writes, "to lie on his back".. :) after all, it already is too ( in his version) of the "internal shit imposed from the outside" for people on their(the nature can't put a variant of bdsm.(because they do not lay flat on my back is "not right" :) )
And "pendulums" it don't really understand..
But in the General result, let a little think over the words that I write here. :)
1. The subconscious mind works on the level of experience :)
2. Erasing the experience - deprogramming, in any case ( he says himself) then "poured" (subconscious) new behaviors. :)
3. That is old behavior patterns are replaced by new patterns of behavior..
And who said that this is not a Reprogramming? :)

For if completely to remove any patterns from the subconscious, person is really loaded those things that is best done on the machine. for example, in fast-moving events it will be just blunt , because the subconscious mind will not be at pre-determined templates (previously erased the old) behavior in similar (or close to similar, or very close to similar)...
For this, we should think :) a bit more than usual :) to see a little more than seen.

My opinion is that such techniques are more suited to those who already have something started to understand yourself and find your own path leading to the path. Because people have problems and not try at least normal for a start - Litvak, Joyce brothers here, and so on... this technique will only aggravate his condition.. because man first needs a little rest.. and prepare yourself for further advancement .. and that can calm the one who brought up "old" ( so to speak) :) of course that gently works the "old" part of the human world.:)
PS personally I prefer to read books where the author does not have to prove it with the words "shit.. shit, fuck brains, etc" .. because "what is in.. and out" :)<

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Post by Евгений Кош » Wed Sep 10, 2008 23:48

ЖСЛ wrote:Horror! I'm not even invisible, apparently because it did not react Confused
Clean picture :)
dude topchatsya on the legs and he doesn't even notice :)
Anyways so turbosplit if atrophy even ordinary perception - you stepped on his foot.

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Post by ЖСЛ » Thu Sep 11, 2008 0:17

Евгений Кош wrote: Terrible is only something invented by your own brain :)
Don't tell me... for people who are afraid of a Gopher, some cleaning just awful :lol:
Евгений Кош wrote: In the book is nothing new, because the method is not of the author, and the author just added "clean guys 'bluff" and a little confused in some places (just a couple) that he really wants to say.

The author is a lot of work on improvement and efficiency.
Евгений Кош wrote: And in the General result, let a little think over the words that I write here. :)
1. The subconscious mind works on the level of experience :)
Past life? )))
Евгений Кош wrote:2. Erasing the experience - deprogramming, in any case ( he says himself) then "poured" (subconscious) new behaviors. :)
deprogrammers not experience deprogrammers reflection. Experience is a category of consciousness.
Евгений Кош wrote:3. That is old behavior patterns are replaced by new patterns of behavior..
the wrong premise - the slight deduction. When a person cleans sosnenko - infa comes from SS, and it is not a template.
And who said that this is not a Reprogramming? :)
Finally understand what is programming.
Because if you completely remove any patterns from the subconscious, person is really loaded those things that is best done on the machine.
Will not. Template prerogative of consciousness, then it goes into PS, comprogramming. And the subconscious does not load - it works the fastest. adequate just.
for example, in fast-moving events it will be just blunt , because the subconscious mind will not be at pre-determined templates (previously erased the old) behavior in similar (or close to similar, or very close to similar)...
That's stupid... the Subconscious mind does not think - it knows. loaded are specialists like you with nonsense..

PS: As I understand it, the people on this forum just don't understand what you're dealing with.<

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Post by ЖСЛ » Thu Sep 11, 2008 0:26

Евгений Кош wrote:
ЖСЛ wrote:Horror! I'm not even invisible, apparently because it did not react Confused
Clean picture :)
dude topchatsya on the legs and he doesn't even notice :)
Anyways so turbosplit if atrophy even ordinary perception - you stepped on his foot.
I do not know can not trample. And maybe don't notice or forget immediately. The meaning of which loaded all the garbage?

PS: I have not tried Turbotecnica.

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Post by Татьяна » Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:00

ЖСЛ wrote:PS: I have not tried Turbotecnica.
I don't understand You,ZHSL,
If you haven't tried Turbosplit that you so praise?
ЖСЛ wrote: PS: As I understand it, the people on this forum just don't understand what you're dealing with.
On this forum we're talking about the Sedona method and in this case we understand what we're dealing with.
And to Gopher for me personally there is no case

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Post by Евгений Кош » Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:50

ЖСЛ wrote:don't tell me... for people who are afraid of a Gopher, some cleaning just awful Laughing
Stupidity :)
all things invented by the brain :) as they say what good Russian - German death :)

In addition. judging by your statements about the subconscious and about how there are processes, which are easy to explore yourself, you haven't talked to him. Try to work out at least one sore, fear behavior through communication with the subconscious mind.. and understand about patterns and so :)))
The prerogative of consciousness is choice. :) (initially).. but I will cut to the chase..
What I agree with you - the subconscious mind does not think :) it knows :) what worked for the BENEFIT of (in his opinion) man, is recorded in the behavior pattern ( if the old template is removed skillfully well, or as an option). it is natural to think that the subconscious is a solid set of templates is not what I wanted to say to you.

Try to work with your subconscious mind at the level of dialogue :)
and come :) something to talk about :)

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Post by Евгений Кош » Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:01

P. S. about the "subconscious thinking" I can not say neither one nor the other.. for know - it carried out some work.. for example when changes of sensation, thinking, behavior.. and how this work called? :) when it gathers the necessary information and chooses the most effective behavior in a given situation, it's probably not quite thinking?
and when it meets - I don't know. :) or "prefer not to say" (thus, we can conclude that it has done some work and made your conclusion about the message information) :) it's probably also not thinking? :)

But.. in any case it is my personal opinion...

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Post by ЖСЛ » Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:32

Евгений Кош wrote:Nonsense :)
all things invented by the brain :) as they say what good Russian - German death :)
Yes I am agree with you. I have long passed the point of no return ) the Rest is afraid of this ;)
In addition. judging by your statements about the subconscious and about how there are processes, which are easy to explore yourself, you haven't talked to him.
You know, a lot of things, including programs that are not in PS. Using PS, you can access them, but not very efficiently directly... Easier to tear. But it's a completely different level.
Try to work with your subconscious mind at the level of dialogue :)
and come :) something to talk about :)
I'm with karma worked. Is scarier )
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ЖСЛ wrote:PS: I have not tried Turbotecnica.
I don't understand You,ZHSL,
If you haven't tried Turbosplit that you so praise?
My expertise allows me to determine the effectiveness of a method or system for cleaning the SS. The essence of the things I know. I am very sorry that turbosplit I have not caught much earlier.
Татьяна wrote: In this forum we're talking about the Sedona method and in this case we understand what we're dealing with.
Sedona does not understand, and you understand 8)
Sedona method is the worst from what I can compare of what is tried. And to compare - I have. Gopher is one of the best, it is quite affordable to the common man. Well what can I say... except "Bravo" bi

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Post by Фипыч » Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:26

Good day!
Andrew, you are not familiar with the techniques Zivorad slavinskogo? Such as Aspektima, the peat, Deep peat, ГП4?

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