about video glasses potlimit here?

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about video glasses potlimit here?

Post by Федул » Tue Nov 25, 2008 13:55

and why mind machines use full-motion video glasses and some incomprehensible DIY level young technology with led module "son et lumière" ?
only here the price at them (glasses for mind machines) not for children, and tomuzhe still nemeryannom proportionally increased for the hole and the penny "more colorful" and "colored" LEDs ?
speaking of video glasses selling in the same amount of money from$150

imho portable player + video glasses with recorded video and audio session is not less efficient\convenient than the "mind-machine" , besides universal and not expensive...

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Post by Ростислав » Wed Dec 03, 2008 0:42

Yes cool!

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Re: about video glasses potlimit here?

Post by Сталкер » Fri Dec 05, 2008 16:16

Федул wrote:and why mind machines use full-motion video glasses
I would like to hear the answer of the artwork is mind machine, can I use video glasses, for example, I have saibex pro 640.

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Post by Андрей Кабанков » Fri Dec 05, 2008 17:43

No,the machine need your glasses.

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Post by Федул » Sun Dec 07, 2008 21:28

so there is no need to machine and technology audiostrobe as such... is not enough sound+visuals ?
but only sell it as? vyigryvayut Chinese manufacturers points, all else "steals" and will be distributed via the Internet each other.

on ebay for example selling video ochechki with the built-in player with micro SD card price cheap mindmachine
and no wires! it is only necessary to convert the session into an AVI file and forward to swedem to the expansion of the brain.. :)

a disadvantage of the points probably can be called a limit for the stimulation frequency , since the matrices have a limit on response time, what sort of glasses I'm not quadrupeds

I have no clue just yet, it would be interesting to hear flames about it more competent Tovarisch.
just very interested in the issue mind-machine, biofeedback devices and printers.... that would connect correctly, these technologies all together,the efficiency I think would have multiplied considerably.

p/s/ a machine I bought InnerPulse, although not yourself and as a gift to a friend , in spite of all my skepticism towards this event and understand that the cost of this stuff at least 10 times less, took just as a cool gift to NG

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Post by Dimas » Sun Dec 07, 2008 21:47

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And You know the cost of the cellular or "fancy" cell phone?????? :) Here You do not pay for set of metal and plastic,but for the idea and development during the decades of programs to synchronize the hemispheres of the brain.And in these devices (about others I will not say) applied such knowledge and technology on which he worked for many years not only developers but also psychologists,psycho-physiologists,etc., what would God forbid someone didn't hit the cap,as from the notorious BMG and a number of progressive companies,for which the "stuffing" write "ostrolecki"-lovers (in any case no offense to the last was said)-You have to understand it.As stated in the famous book of bald Swedish professors "Business in style funk"has ended the era of sales hard,and the era of buying software! :wink:

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Post by ЖСЛ » Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:12

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And You know the cost of the cellular or "fancy" cell phone?????? :) Here You do not pay for set of metal and plastic,but for the idea and development during the decades of programs to synchronize the hemispheres of the brain.And in these devices (about others I will not say) applied such knowledge and technology on which he worked for many years not only developers but also psychologists,psycho-physiologists,etc., what would God forbid someone didn't hit the cap,as from the notorious BMG and a number of progressive companies,for which the "stuffing" write "ostrolecki"-lovers (in any case no offense to the last was said)-You have to understand it.As stated in the famous book of bald Swedish professors "Business in style funk"has ended the era of sales hard,and the era of buying software! :wink:
the current does not show the sharp decline in prices, as pokupki intellectual contributions, as it occurs in similar products :wink:

I do not think that they have not paid off, otherwise in such a long return on invested capital - not just MM would produce.

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Post by Dimas » Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:48

ЖСЛ wrote:
Dimas wrote:the Fedulov
And You know the cost of the cellular or "fancy" cell phone?????? :) Here You do not pay for set of metal and plastic,but for the idea and development during the decades of programs to synchronize the hemispheres of the brain.And in these devices (about others I will not say) applied such knowledge and technology on which he worked for many years not only developers but also psychologists,psycho-physiologists,etc., what would God forbid someone didn't hit the cap,as from the notorious BMG and a number of progressive companies,for which the "stuffing" write "ostrolecki"-lovers (in any case no offense to the last was said)-You have to understand it.As stated in the famous book of bald Swedish professors "Business in style funk"has ended the era of sales hard,and the era of buying software! :wink:
the current does not show the sharp decline in prices, as pokupki intellectual contributions, as it occurs in similar products :wink:

I do not think that they have not paid off, otherwise in such a long return on invested capital - not just MM would produce.
And who said that the investments have paid off?Developments take place continuously,write the new program,developed new devices.And the product to put it mildly is very specific,it is not mobile,which is a month outdated and we need to reduce the price to sell,in order to recapture the loot.

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Федул wrote:so there is no need to machine and technology audiostrobe as such... is not enough sound+visuals ?
but only sell it as? vyigryvayut Chinese manufacturers points, all else "steals" and will be distributed via the Internet each other.

on ebay for example selling video ochechki with the built-in player with micro SD card price cheap mindmachine
and no wires! it is only necessary to convert the session into an AVI file and forward to swedem to the expansion of the brain.. :)

a disadvantage of the points probably can be called a limit for the stimulation frequency , since the matrices have a limit on response time, what sort of glasses I'm not quadrupeds

I have no clue just yet, it would be interesting to hear flames about it more competent Tovarisch.
just very interested in the issue mind-machine, biofeedback devices and printers.... that would connect correctly, these technologies all together,the efficiency I think would have multiplied considerably.

p/s/ a machine I bought InnerPulse, although not yourself and as a gift to a friend , in spite of all my skepticism towards this event and understand that the cost of this stuff at least 10 times less, took just as a cool gift to NG
In my opinion, the video is "another story". Here an attempt was made to combine video with mindmachine http://www.av3x.com/Meditation-Relaxation/home.php but che is also not very cheap... Mindmachine feedback on the GSR is too long already (Proteus, Procyon, DAVID), but nothing new, IMHO they do not.
It seems to me that further development of this technology lies in the relationships of certain areas of the visual field areas of the brain and the creation of full-color led matrices, covering the entire field of view. And, of course, special control programs.
Mindmachine, because of their nature, will never become a mass product, so the price level will stay about the same. As they say, "in the Bazaar there are always two fools: one too cheap sells, the other buys too expensive".<

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Post by Guest » Mon Dec 08, 2008 18:14

Anonymous wrote: In my opinion, the video is "another story". Here an attempt was made to combine video with mindmachine http://www.av3x.com/Meditation-Relaxation/home.php but che is also not very cheap... Mindmachine feedback on the GSR is too long already (Poteus, Procyon, DAVID), but nothing new, IMHO they do not.



and who NT had the pleasure to use this "video"?


p/s/ "David" was interested but the price is not satisfied :)
and "Proteus" as I understand it itself contains feedback sensors and uses a separate device "ThoughtStream biofeedback system"
Oh .. first step is the hardest, not to become would be a collector of these trinkets :roll:

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Post by Андрей Кабанков » Mon Dec 08, 2008 18:25

I have these discs.They are points that make a kaleidoscopic image.
Images from the MM much more interesting.

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Post by Guest » Mon Dec 08, 2008 19:40

Андрей Кабанков wrote:I Have these discs.They are points that make a kaleidoscopic image.
Images from the MM much more interesting.
But the point, IMHO, an order of magnitude less (I also have :)).

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Post by ЖСЛ » Mon Dec 08, 2008 23:49

Dimas wrote:And who said that the investments have paid off?

I repeat: I do not think that they have not paid off, otherwise in such a long return on invested capital - not just MM would produce.
were nonexistent would MM do :) They would not need the business.
Dimas wrote:and the product to put it mildly is very specific,it is not mobile,which is a month outdated and we need to reduce the price to sell,in order to recapture the loot.

That's it. Mobile as and software to it a hundred times harder, but nevertheless - they bring profit to manufacturers of mobile, Alabama.

This business problem is very different in nature, they are associated with constraints imposed by the positioning.

PS: I don't think ethics is to argue with the business logic on such issues. And after Turbosplit... 8)

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Post by Dimas » Tue Dec 09, 2008 0:05

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:lol: :lol: I agree,I think arguing is not necessary,but several other reasons :lol:Phrase-I do NOT THINK THAT THEY have NOT paid OFF means specifically, I THINK THAT THEY have ALREADY paid OFF.(by the way, 2 of the negation in simple sentence-a reason to think for a psychologist :wink: ) I say-NOT paid OFF,but only for the simple reason that this business is constantly investing money,and this is connected not with some of creasable type ограниченияминаложеннымипозиционированием..(I don't know this set of words,and with the cases YOU see ZHSL not to YOU), and so that improve the filling (not electronic mind you,but ideas and content) constantly running specialists.And again, I repeat,the product-not a sausage.In the retail sector to sell it will not,therefore, the price at best is not yet to fall.
Bugger me,I'm as geezer'll see some,I'll ask him first,if you pumped turboplay if you answer YES,then I will stay away from him and certainly I will not argue.And not because he mikasperavi logician,but for the sake of his health and integrity of the members :lol: :lol:

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Post by ЖСЛ » Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:46

Dimas wrote: I Agree,I think arguing is not necessary,but several other reasons :lol:Phrase-I do NOT THINK THAT THEY have NOT paid OFF means specifically, I THINK THAT THEY have ALREADY paid OFF.
so :? all aware of this.
Dimas wrote: (by the way, 2 of the negation in simple sentence-a reason to think for a psychologist :wink: )
easy to operate of words, because a full understanding of the meaning. and don't even think about it. Tool after all.
Dimas wrote:I say-NOT paid OFF,but only for the simple reason that this business is constantly investing money,and this is connected not with some of creasable type ограниченияминаложеннымипозиционированием..
Virtually any business has to invest money. Other businesses and does not happen :roll:
Business logic does not even focus on such matters, it's all so obvious. Deeper will take?
Dimas wrote: (I don't know this set of words,and with the cases YOU see ZHSL not on YOU),
with the cases-the decline-conjugations - it is correct. And I even know they don't need. I don't even think about it, I got it all flows naturally. write as you breathe, at least for a half-page proposal. I have the same polarities anymore.

limitations imposed by the positioning..
two plurals, one.

Logic from ethics differs - which is not itself logically, for him the like - as natural as breathing.
that was an improvement over the toppings (not electronic mind you,but ideas and content) constantly running specialists.
Everything is relative. go back to the phones you mentioned.
Man,I'm as geezer'll see some,I'll ask him first,if you pumped turboplay if you answer YES,then I will stay away from him and certainly I will not argue.And not because he mikasperavi logician,but for the sake of his health and integrity of the members :lol: :lol:
Hammer. It is better to treat this hook EGO. I even know where he is, because he alipinova socionic you all already know :)
And the root cause of excess agressi, and headaches - are one and the same. Ha, if set on the root cause of Turbotecnica - around you know stop.<

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Post by Dimas » Tue Dec 09, 2008 13:02

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Oh Great and Divine ZHSL...where I napryajennogo to compete with You in the verbiage?! 8) For SIM finish :lol:

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Post by Идущая вперед » Tue Dec 09, 2008 13:26

turbousa has its right to exist as any system of self-development BUT I LOVE TRANSERFING REALITY... he is closer and dearer to me but Americanized system of manipulation, NLP is causing me aversion :ap :cry: :cry: :cry:
if Gslo helps turbocycle to go through life and to cope with the problems, go right ahead... and transferring mnezh nicer... and ruddy and whiter :D :D :D

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Post by Федул » Tue Dec 09, 2008 16:41

Anonymous wrote:
Андрей Кабанков wrote:I Have these discs.They are points that make a kaleidoscopic image.
Images from the MM much more interesting.
But the point, IMHO, an order of magnitude less (I also have :)).
misunderstood the same.. from anyone to sense less from the "pictures" videos or pictures of MM? .. what is measured by "sense" ?
and what a video.. more points from a kaleidoscopic picture what prevented them to do ? :) .. somehow something, dull, or there again commercial move profit protection from piracy: "buy our glasses without which this miracle video not working" ?

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Post by Андрей Кабанков » Tue Dec 09, 2008 16:49

Disk little use and pictures)

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Post by ЖСЛ » Wed Dec 10, 2008 1:51

Dimas wrote:ZHSLOh Great and Divine ZHSL...where I napryajennogo to compete with You in the verbiage?! 8)
how can you blame the verbiage of a person who clearly, clearly and basically expresses his thoughts?

The more business logic, because it is even easier to act than to speak 8)

Beautiful handling of words - a sign of the charged to the action. The action here is primary, the word secondary. It extrovertly logic on the external world charged.
Dimas wrote: For SIM end :lol:
Done. Finished you when will be treated by Turboslim one thing inside...I thought the root cause - why do I annoy you and you can't adequately I perceive it.

Recommend make it faster - this was a huge personal leap+and there is no choice, in today's rapidly changing world - will be harder.

"The business problems of a very different nature, they are associated with constraints imposed by the positioning." - Meant severe restrictions of the marketing policy, because of the positioning of goods- Machine for the brain. Called more - BrianExploder or worse...
The business here has fallen into the same trap as their American counterparts 30 years ago, which cost mindmachine much more because of custom-made products of the product due to low sales.

PS: you Want to predict further development of the project mindmachine.ru in time and it will all end? :wink:
BU-ha-ha, hunting someone advice on a million? 8)

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Post by Андрей Кабанков » Wed Dec 10, 2008 16:41

ЖСЛ wrote: PS: you Want to predict further development of the project mindmachine.ru in time and it will all end? :wink:
BU-ha-ha, hunting someone advice on a million? 8)
The development of any project depends on who implements it.
The same project in different hands may develop radically different.
To take guessing my actions,knowing little of me a little self-confident.
But let's tip a million,very curious)
We hope we have because of $ million :)

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Wed Dec 10, 2008 19:46

Идущая вперед wrote:turbousa has its right to exist as any system of self-development BUT I LOVE TRANSERFING REALITY... I have nearer and dearer but Americanized system of manipulation, NLP is causing me aversion :ap :cry: :cry: :cry:
if Gslo helps turbocycle to go through life and to cope with the problems, go right ahead... and transferring mnezh nicer... and ruddy and whiter :D :D :D
As an honest man, I must warn You that the drive Explorer I'm too busy manipulating You with NLP. :oops: :?
http://www.mindmachine.ru/viewtopic.php?t=514&start=0

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Post by Андрей Кабанков » Wed Dec 10, 2008 23:34

Without waiting for predictions from ZHSL,will Express his vision of our project is sozdanie his research and production base for the development and production of devices related to psychotronics.
This work is already underway and results will be presented in the near future.

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Post by ЖСЛ » Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:43

Андрей Кабанков wrote:the Development of any project depends on who implements it.
The same project in different hands may develop radically different.
What kind of Gopher would argue with the fact that it all depends on the person? :)
I own but the human factor here and you are digging ;)
maybe you anticipate my actions,knowing little of me a little self-confident.
and I don't need to know or build a logic circuit(this thing I was doing before I met Surfactants, MM and TS). I just have to see 8)

Success depends not only on you personally, but from those whom you surround yourself. So by "You"I mean everyone not you personally, but a certain group of people, and not their personality traits, and more cumulative substance, you don't need to take anyone to your account )
Андрей Кабанков wrote:But let's tip a million,very curious)
We hope we have because of $ million :)
not up to me how much my words are worth to you.
without waiting for predictions from ZHSL,will Express his vision of our project is sozdanie his research and production base for the development and production of devices related to psychotronics.
This work is already underway and results will be presented in the near future.
Well, first-the goal you set is incorrect(it is secondary and will be performed automatically) - merit nezachot (why I started this conversation, I immediately see who is the business logic, who himself is trying to draw), and secondly I think that you are in this business will not, as a business you will overcome :?

I think there will be a repetition of history with sir Clive Sinclair, with all my respect for such people. Yes, Sinclear ZX Spectrum. Structural logic(And you think it this way, is to go for a free personality typing, in every city spend right now) should know it ;)<

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