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Post by Андрей Кабанков » Thu Dec 11, 2008 17:07

Well,why go the business is still press :cry: :cry: :cry:

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Thu Dec 11, 2008 17:50

You see, ZHSL, in socionics typing is an art, and not standard procedure. People learn very long, and not all succeed. At the time I matured the idea to put this procedure on a secure physiological basis, using diagnostic complex ЛИРА100, and even planned in the and foreign Affairs Institute monograph on this topic, then transient left...
What You have to offer is the apprentice practicing on people and results, to put it mildly, questionable. By the way, this is perfectly illustrated by Your example - to the logic, IMHO, You have nothing. :?

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Post by ЖСЛ » Thu Dec 11, 2008 21:55

Андрей Кабанков wrote:Well,why go the business is still press :cry: :cry: :cry:
So that is not pressed and go. We still speak different languages, you just don't understand me.
Any business logic without cockroaches will throw you out in the course of the year. Then you may understand the difference between them. It is possible that you and DL, but I mentioned you about your environment, remember ;)
Андрей Патрушев wrote:you See, ZHSL, in socionics typing is an art, and not standard procedure.
It's so easy to see and feel human :? To understand where he is present, and where it is drawn.
Андрей Патрушев wrote: People learn very long, and not all succeed.
In our small town - tiponut with 100% accuracy. Hand stuffed :?
At the time, I have matured the idea to put this procedure on a secure physiological basis, using diagnostic complex ЛИРА100, and even planned in the and foreign Affairs Institute monograph on this topic, then transient left...
A social types including social. the dichotomy reflected in the faces and bodies of people. Behavior. Sometimes typing perhaps at first glance :)
here's an example article http://www.socionics.org/theory/Default ... ealth.html
Another tip: successful people and losers - tipiloura differently. Directly opposite I would say!
what You have to offer is the apprentice practicing on people and results, to put it mildly, questionable. By the way, this is perfectly illustrated by Your example - to the logic, IMHO, You have nothing.
Maybe you a distinct intuition of time, I don't notice? try to otherout ;)

What? Logic is of two kinds.
I actually here and show the example of Mr. Kabankova.

The business logic will not do any crap like scientific and technical bases, just in the MM will walk half of the country and all :?
Even if MM Mr Kabankova will be much better, cooler and better, thanks to built them a scientific basis.
Business logic is the same MM will be - a better product. And sold as if goods ;)

PS: I don't "stick" on the logic, because you have doubts. I just merged Gopher logic and ethics. And know where when and what to use. I hit with two hands, and you one-armed.<

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Post by Андрей Кабанков » Fri Dec 12, 2008 16:17

ZHSL
Thank you for "dismantled" me. :)
I have a different opinion about the people with whom we will jointly implement this project and about where it will lead,and indeed about what ,how and why happens in business including.

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Post by ЖСЛ » Sat Dec 13, 2008 6:26

Андрей Кабанков wrote:ZHSL
Thank you for "dismantled" me. :)
I have a different opinion about the people with whom we will jointly implement this project and about where it will lead,and indeed about what ,how and why happens in business including.
Yes, no one argues that anyone who reads this correspondence has an opinion on these issues :)
nothing against you or your people do not have. just what you do - not a business :?

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Post by Ростислав » Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:43

A possible detail about the new project development?

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Post by Андрей Кабанков » Mon Dec 15, 2008 17:15

Later will tell.

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Wed Dec 17, 2008 21:06

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Андрей Кабанков wrote:Well,why go the business is still press :cry: :cry: :cry:
So that is not pressed and go. We still speak different languages, you just don't understand me.
Any business logic without cockroaches will throw you out in the course of the year. Then you may understand the difference between them. It is possible that you and DL, but I mentioned you about your environment, remember ;)
Андрей Патрушев wrote:you See, ZHSL, in socionics typing is an art, and not standard procedure.
It's so easy to see and feel human :? To understand where he is present, and where it is drawn.
Андрей Патрушев wrote: People learn very long, and not all succeed.
In our small town - tiponut with 100% accuracy. Hand stuffed :?
At the time, I have matured the idea to put this procedure on a secure physiological basis, using diagnostic complex ЛИРА100, and even planned in the and foreign Affairs Institute monograph on this topic, then transient left...
A social types including social. the dichotomy reflected in the faces and bodies of people. Behavior. Sometimes typing perhaps at first glance :)
here's an example article http://www.socionics.org/theory/Default ... ealth.html
Another tip: successful people and losers - tipiloura differently. Directly opposite I would say!
what You have to offer is the apprentice practicing on people and results, to put it mildly, questionable. By the way, this is perfectly illustrated by Your example - to the logic, IMHO, You have nothing.
Maybe you a distinct intuition of time, I don't notice? try to otherout ;)

What? Logic is of two kinds.
I actually here and show the example of Mr. Kabankova.

The business logic will not do any crap like scientific and technical bases, just in the MM will walk half of the country and all :?
Even if MM Mr Kabankova will be much better, cooler and better, thanks to built them a scientific basis.
Business logic is the same MM will be - a better product. And sold as if goods ;)

PS: I don't "stick" on the logic, because you have doubts. I just merged Gopher logic and ethics. And know where when and what to use. I hit with two hands, and you one-armed.
Yes, really... About the typing You, too, to put it mildly, do not understand, but the words are different picked up and smartly use them (though out of place :)), so that non-specialist brains to powder can...
I guess that You, ZHSL, really want someone to be. But You seem to have not grown up to the idea that "to be" and "seem" are two different things.
I'm too lazy here to arrange an educational program, but You forgot to say that personality type is just a prerequisite, not a "diagnosis", and the basis of personality is education. And any "aesthetic" education will leave far behind any "logic" without education, and it is in a logical sphere.<

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Wed Dec 17, 2008 21:12

ЖСЛ wrote:
Андрей Кабанков wrote:ZHSL
Thank you for "dismantled" me. :)
I have a different opinion about the people with whom we will jointly implement this project and about where it will lead,and indeed about what ,how and why happens in business including.
Yes, no one argues that anyone who reads this correspondence has an opinion on these issues :)
nothing against you or your people do not have. just what you do - not a business :?
Andrew, as far as I know, is a wonderful entrepreneur, and here You are, ZHSL, even on a good seller, it does not pull. Because not only do You not understand the difference between these two types of businessmen, but don't even know how to clearly and accurately Express ideas (not only his, but others' :))...

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Post by ЖСЛ » Thu Dec 18, 2008 1:57

Андрей Патрушев wrote:Yes, really... About the typing You, too, to put it mildly, do not understand, but the words are different picked up and smartly use them (though out of place :)), so that non-specialist brains to powder can...
Mr. Patrushev - specific and to the point. Otherwise, not interested.
Just saying - my method of typing - you and the other experts are not available. I'm able to feel human and to SEE him.
Андрей Патрушев wrote:to Me laziness here to arrange an educational program, but You forgot to say that personality type is just a prerequisite, not a "diagnosis", and the basis of personality is education.
Education based on the individual?
If this were so, then Henry Ford without education - so all my life and would trade pies.
I'm way to socionic personality characteristic brow joined - up the street/sitting at home(get an education?).
Seen people who seems to have everything(as much as two entities), but nicho comes out? ;)
Home boys 8)
And any "aesthetic" education will leave far behind any "logic" without education, and it is in a logical sphere.
That such beliefs are formed and socionic losers. People not involved in his business.

Successful people RAM their strong qualities. Losers - weak pull-up(but look ridiculous). Immediately break the method of ciprovci on two approaches. along the way will be clear what to use(that is to say who is in front of you).
That's why I'm so easy typing.
You Dimasa have not octoberville? :wink: Try? Let's see in practice, who's who in socionics ;)
Andrew, as far as I know, is a wonderful entrepreneur, and here You are, ZHSL, even on a good seller, it does not pull.
everything is so unfounded that are already interested :(

PS: you Mentioned "aesthetes"(of ethics) with logical education - often working on business logic with triples certificates and expulsion from the University for academic failure.
Ethics is working on the ethics of relations - reaches no less, surrounding himself with decent logic. Catherine II - "fool-fool", but she was surrounded and as rules.<

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Post by Ростислав » Thu Dec 18, 2008 2:15

The couple I'm looking here as of nacionale much to teach certain! Can vsetaki to dig myself before lecturing other chemuto?! Before chemuto you need to teach yourself first, chegonibut to achieve and not at all to teach!

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Post by Dimas » Thu Dec 18, 2008 13:19

Islu
1."Who knows,he does not speak,who speaks does not know" and
2."...if you're so smart,why so poor..?"
3. like...if you think that is not poor and has achieved a lot in life and self-improvement,then ..ul are you doing here among the losers in your opinion,do out of altruism!? 8) :lol:
and,Yes,the energy suck,I'll forget and then... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Nice hepatitis! :wink:

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Thu Dec 18, 2008 14:39

ZHSL
I told You that here and the forum is not and the topic is not about that, and the educational program here for You to arrange, I do not intend. :?
"Personality is the totality of socially important qualities," not only education, and do not distort - Your examples just illustrate Your ability to simply think logically. You, probably, think by analogy, not by logic. And it's thinking, in the literal sense, cannot be called... Henry Ford, incidentally, all his life worked hard to educate ourselves.
Good that You are working in a psychological service, and with such a wonderful ability to typing, You would have caused a lot of harm to innocent people (I have met such "psihologu" in my lifetime :cry: )
As for the "business logic", that in life they are usually on the sidelines always hanging out, if not working on. Type "business logic" is, in fact, the foreman at the construction site (it is, incidentally, a bit of a job :wink: ), but in business of this type, without the achievements of specific qualities, nothing to do at all...

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Post by ЖСЛ » Thu Dec 18, 2008 18:57

Андрей Патрушев wrote:I told You that here and the forum is not and the topic is not about that, and the educational program here for You to arrange, I do not intend. :?
And you try, at least sometimes substantially. I'm telling you, typeroom DIMASa, he lit on the forum all that is needed.
"Personality is the totality of socially important qualities", not just education
how do these qualities come from?
Henry Ford, by the way, the entire life[SPAM] to educate ourselves.
but he was able to answer the questions of the crowd of intellectuals, rushed to his office, only lifting the handset.
Now, remember what I said about the experience. And about the endorphins with serotonin ;) which are carried by air through space )))
and do not distort - Your examples just illustrate Your ability to simply think logically.
I don't cringe, I gracefully cuoco companion. The case and fact. This is business logic.
Structurii and therefore not able to engage in the business of them are constantly escapes. Stroyut research center, while they wring out the market.

By the way Turbosonic with structural in the first place and is struggling.
You, probably, think by analogy, not by logic. And it's thinking, in the literal sense, cannot be called...
I also get this information by insight. Nicholas Tesla. And you can SEE right through a man. turning off logic :lol:
Good that You are working in a psychological service, and with such a wonderful ability to typing, You would have caused a lot of harm to innocent people (I have met such "psihologu" in my lifetime :cry: )
Remind - DIMAS is waiting for typing. For his sociotype - it will be well, very valuable information.
as for the "business logic", that in life they are usually on the sidelines always hanging out, if not working on. Type "business logic" is, in fact, the foreman at the construction site (it is, incidentally, a bit of a job :wink: )
You will forgive what FOR?
Stirlitz, Gabin, Balzac, Jack?:shock: none of them fits the role of the superintendent. Foreman - structural logic of sensation, like Zhukov.
but in business of this type, without the achievements of specific qualities, nothing to do at all...
Caesar-ethics - also nothing to do, but in business their pond-pond, surrounded by good people who do everything for them.
There are successful people(sociotype) is not successful. And tipiloura they are completely different. I do not understand yet?<

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Post by Никакой » Thu Dec 18, 2008 21:56

ZHSL
Otvette on a simple question:
Whether you have a business that brings you more than 500 000 USD ?
(Living wage for a normal businessman)

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Thu Dec 18, 2008 22:20

ЖСЛ wrote:
Андрей Патрушев wrote:I told You that here and the forum is not and the topic is not about that, and the educational program here for You to arrange, I do not intend. :?
And you try, at least sometimes substantially. I'm telling you, typeroom DIMASa, he lit on the forum all that is needed.
"Personality is the totality of socially important qualities", not just education
how do these qualities come from?
Henry Ford, by the way, the entire life[SPAM] to educate ourselves.
but he was able to answer the questions of the crowd of intellectuals, rushed to his office, only lifting the handset.
Now, remember what I said about the experience. And about the endorphins with serotonin ;) which are carried by air through space )))
and do not distort - Your examples just illustrate Your ability to simply think logically.
I don't cringe, I gracefully cuoco companion. The case and fact. This is business logic.
Structurii and therefore not able to engage in the business of them are constantly escapes. Stroyut research center, while they wring out the market.

By the way Turbosonic with structural in the first place and is struggling.
You, probably, think by analogy, not by logic. And it's thinking, in the literal sense, cannot be called...
I also get this information by insight. Nicholas Tesla. And you can SEE right through a man. turning off logic :lol:
Good that You are working in a psychological service, and with such a wonderful ability to typing, You would have caused a lot of harm to innocent people (I have met such "psihologu" in my lifetime :cry: )
Remind - DIMAS is waiting for typing. For his sociotype - it will be well, very valuable information.
as for the "business logic", that in life they are usually on the sidelines always hanging out, if not working on. Type "business logic" is, in fact, the foreman at the construction site (it is, incidentally, a bit of a job :wink: )
You will forgive what FOR?
Stirlitz, Gabin, Balzac, Jack?:shock: none of them fits the role of the superintendent. Foreman - structural logic of sensation, like Zhukov.
but in business of this type, without the achievements of specific qualities, nothing to do at all...
Caesar-ethics - also nothing to do, but in business their pond-pond, surrounded by good people who do everything for them.
There are successful people(sociotype) is not successful. And tipiloura they are completely different. I do not understand yet?
One student learned one ticket about fleas and went to the exam. But in the exam he came across a ticket about hedgehogs. He sat down the teacher began: "Hedgehogs - these are animals who have fleas are not found, but bolchi is..." :?<

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Post by Никакой » Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:01

ZHSL

An ancient Sufi story
The woman is very worried about his young child — she had only one child, and the husband died. She was rich, but lost all interest in life. She lived only for the sake of the child, and, of course, under such circumstances, children are spoiled; the child didn't eat nothing but sweets. The doctors said: "This is bad, his health will be spoiled." But the child did not listen.
A woman visited a Sufi mystic, so one day she thought, "He won't listen to me, but maybe he'll listen to mystery, because that person is so radiant that anyone who approaches him, is under the impression".
She took the child and mystique said: "He does not listen to anyone. The doctors told him that his health will deteriorate, and I repeat it to him every day. All his food consists only of sweets; otherwise, he prefers to remain hungry. This is my only child, my husband died and I live only for the sake of the baby. I can't see him hungry, so I have to give him sweets, knowing full well that giving him the poison: white sugar is white poison. So I brought him. Tell him something! You are a man of God, maybe your words will have more impact".
Mystic looked at the child. He said: "my Son, I am not able to answer you right now, because I like to eat sweets. Come back in two weeks. For two weeks I will not eat sweets, if you can handle this. Only then I will be able to advise; and yet I am the wrong person for advice".
The woman could not believe it. It could be even dangerous... But on a child it made a huge impression. He touched the feet of the mystic. He said, "I was taken to many people; my mother continues to take me to it, to another sage, and they all immediately accepted to advise. You're the first sincere person. I'll be there in two weeks, and all that you say, I will. I trust you."
Two weeks later, they came again. The mystic said, "my Son, it is difficult, but not impossible. I managed not to eat sweets for two weeks, and I promise that all my life, I don't touch sweets again. What do you think, can I tell you? Only if you let me, I'll do it."
The child said, "No need to say anything. I got the message. And I thank you. A person like you who is willing to give up sweets for life just to tell me your vehicle is trustworthy. I trust you. I also promise you that I will never eat sweets from now on, never again."

I asked you a question about your success in business,but the answer is I known in advance,I can see that you dummy.
(About the level of your income can be judged by how you described the choice of mobile phone).
I myself have earnings higher than that which you ask,so you can see who you are.
Initially I was interested in your posts,but all you could tell you said in the first few posts.The rest is a rehashing of the same thing.<

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Post by ЖСЛ » Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:31

Ростислав wrote:Couple I'm looking here as of nacionale much to teach certain! Can vsetaki to dig myself before lecturing other chemuto?! Before chemuto you need to teach yourself first, chegonibut to achieve and not at all to teach!
And you-what? Soak up the information. What is stopping you? It is necessary first to dig in myself ;)
Dimas wrote:Islu
1."Who knows,he does not speak,who speaks does not know" and
2."...if you're so smart,why so poor..?"
Who told you that I am poor?
Dimas wrote:3. like...if you think that is not poor and has achieved a lot in life and self-improvement,then ..ul are you doing here among the losers in your opinion
You can't tell where I expressed my opinion about things around the forum - the word losers?
I'm just trying to drum Mr. Patrushev - the procedure that socionic typing much easier than he imagines, simply divide the approach temirovka for the loser and successful person.
I know what difficulties people face when temirovka, and you know why he considers this to be a difficult task.
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Typerule DIMASa. All. Enough chatter-what to do.

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Post by ЖСЛ » Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:50

Никакой wrote:ZHSL
Otvette on a simple question:
Whether you have a business that brings you more than 500 000 USD ?
(Living wage for a normal businessman)
In my city don't make that one.
You crazy :) Why do people get so much money?

Fear that he will not be able to take as many as he needs. I integrated into the world, and take out what I need for me, it will never represent labor.
Никакой wrote:ZHSL I asked you a question about your success in business,but the answer is I known in advance,I can see that you dummy.
(About the level of your income can be judged by how you described the choice of mobile phone).
it was not the choice of the mobile phone is gathering the most valuable information of continuous EXPERIENCE.
I myself have earnings higher than that which you ask,so you can see who you are.
And you can take away yourself in the whole world, to be fully present here and now? And then to feel like the whole world breaks into you? ;) What you say?
Initially, I was interested in your posts,but all you could tell you said in the first few posts.The rest is a rehashing of the same thing.
I become a worthy opponent, and only then get the new info :wink:

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:46

ZHSL, You are still with the concept of "predaject" serious problems - not only business cannot do You even mafia will not take... :?

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Post by Dimas » Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:47

Андрей Патрушев wrote:ZHSL, You are still with the concept of "predaject" serious problems - not only business cannot do You even mafia will not take... :?
No..do not take even the courier :wink: :lol:

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:49

Dimas wrote:Who knows,he does not speak,who speaks does not know
a wise man would not write a book
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Post by Ростислав » Fri Dec 19, 2008 14:43

Mmda! Let's make a theme to it all of us I have protypical! ZHSL start with I am very interested don't I stand!

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Post by Никакой » Fri Dec 19, 2008 14:53

ЖСЛ wrote: Become to me a worthy opponent, and only then get the new info :wink:
You remind me of the little dog that constantly yelps and grabs people's pants.Otherwise it no one pays attention.
In their posts you have to indicate that you are a man of experience,you can do it,you business logic, etc.
But,if a person represents something,in this indication is not necessary.People will understand it yourself.
You ,as I wrote, dummy.
I have nothing to take from you.

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Post by Никакой » Fri Dec 19, 2008 17:01

ЖСЛ wrote: IN my city don't make that one.
You crazy :) Why do people get so much money?
Well,at least that would not is a small town,and have freedom of movement across the planet.To be in those places,where you want and when you want.

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