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On the sale

Post by Guest » Tue May 06, 2008 15:00

Want to know why You don't have a section to buy/sell. The announcement of the sale bought by You equipment are removed, and on the other site You think it is possible to place your ads.
With respect, Vladimir.

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Re: About the sale

Post by Dimas » Tue May 06, 2008 15:22

Anonymous wrote:Want to know why You don't have a section to buy/sell. The announcement of the sale bought by You equipment are removed, and on the other site You think it is possible to place your ads.
With respect, Vladimir.
Products used You can implement on special websites designed for this purpose,we if and the placed announcement,it is about selling not used products.

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Post by Guest » Tue May 06, 2008 15:36

if we placed the ads,something about not selling previously used products.
In the form of links to your website

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Post by Dimas » Tue May 06, 2008 15:37

Of course,how else?

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Re: About the sale

Post by Евгений78 » Wed Oct 28, 2009 14:34

Dimas wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Want to know why You don't have a section to buy/sell. The announcement of the sale bought by You equipment are removed, and on the other site You think it is possible to place your ads.
With respect, Vladimir.
Products used You can implement on special websites designed for this purpose,we if and the placed announcement,it is about selling not used products.
Good day!
And what kind of special websites? If just about sales only, few people understand what it is. Why it can't be done here? What?

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Post by Жека3000 » Wed Oct 28, 2009 15:42

Евгений78 wrote:Good day!
And what kind of special websites? If just about sales only, few people understand what it is. Why it can't be done here? What?
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Post by Дождик » Wed Oct 28, 2009 15:55

Damn it! The answer is usually simple "You have to - make a website!..." :roll: :lol:

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Post by Жека3000 » Wed Oct 28, 2009 15:56

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someone, it seems, I was advised not to post "leash would be celebrated"
Not consistently do!

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Post by Дождик » Wed Oct 28, 2009 16:26

The point is that the administration very specifically explained its policy in respect of the goods sold. It is their right since it's THEIR website. If you don't like something, no one prohibits you to make your site rules, which you seem to be correct.
What is there to argue? not understand.... :?

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Post by Евгений78 » Wed Oct 28, 2009 17:23

As what is there to understand. This website is designed to explain and help with mind machines or just to sell a new product? It is new. Ie for those for example to whom it did not fit or for some other reason, sort it out yourself. Why do you delete ALL messages who would like to buy used or to sell? That is not clear. And even begins to arouse suspicion. I don't want to say that the mind machine is not worth the money or not working, no. I just wonder why such a policy of the creators of this website. "Sell and forget" - so long ago, no trades.

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Post by Евгений78 » Wed Oct 28, 2009 17:25

[quote="Rain"]the point is that the administration very specifically explained its policy in respect of the goods sold. quote]
Where is the administration "very specifically" explained what her policy? Show me please.

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Post by Жека3000 » Wed Oct 28, 2009 18:09

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Well, if You don't understand it means nothing! :?

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Post by Жека3000 » Wed Oct 28, 2009 18:10

Евгений78 wrote:Where is the administration "very specifically" explained what her policy? Show me please.
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Post by Dimas » Wed Oct 28, 2009 18:23

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Евгений78
This website was created to support buyers (not prepodavatelei)! If you want to sell your device, do it elsewhere. Our rules exclude it. Why do we have to explain to You methods and principles of OUR business?

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Post by Жека3000 » Wed Oct 28, 2009 18:49

Dimas wrote:This site was created to support buyers (not prepodavatelei)! If you want to sell your device, do it elsewhere. Our rules exclude it. Why do we have to explain to You methods and principles of OUR business?
You are not forced to explain the principle of running YOUR business! The reasons why You are against this for me is crystal clear and without explanation! Just do not have unnecessary emotions! The master-the barin! :)

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Post by Dimas » Wed Oct 28, 2009 19:48

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here, in my opinion, no one shows emotions...but that's why You pay for other people's "emotions" most of the attention?something seems? :)

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Post by Жека3000 » Wed Oct 28, 2009 23:49

Dimas wrote:something seems?
Probably!:)

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Post by Евгений78 » Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:39

Dimas wrote:Жека3000
Евгений78
This website was created to support buyers (not prepodavatelei)! If you want to sell your device, do it elsewhere. Our rules exclude it. Why do we have to explain to You methods and principles of OUR business?
So you have it purely business? Then it's understandable. I naively thought that something more. And even wanted to write that little section of sale would not hurt anyone. We device not returned to you, and just sell to those who really need it (who can't afford new). Even if we speak openly and you can return if desired through the courts. The impression that you are afraid of something. You understand that to sell such a specific product elsewhere is extremely difficult, if at all possible. I now need the money urgently, I am out of work and not to the OS for mind machines now, and I don't have an electronics store.
DemAs, and You are never able to understand why you need so much brains? Three years already this signature you see :)

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Post by Dimas » Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:42

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So you have it purely business?
And You thought we were completely altruistic or what? Of course a business, but not only. And so it was NOT ONLY, we have to earn to eat and Fund new developments.
even if we speak openly and you can return if desired through the courts. The impression that you are afraid of something.
By law, a person can return the item within 2 weeks after purchase, if fully salable condition. By the way, the mind-machine and the rest of the instrument, as it is a complex technical tool which is not refundable.
1. The consumer is entitled to exchange nonfood goods of proper quality to similar goods from the seller from whom this product was purchased, if the specified goods have not approached under the form, dimensions, style, colors, size or configuration.
(as amended by Federal law from 17.12.1999 N 212-FZ)
The consumer has the right to exchange the goods of proper quality within fourteen days, excluding the day of purchase.
Exchange of nonfood goods of appropriate quality is carried out if the specified goods
were not in use
saved its trade dress, consumer properties, seals, factory labels, as well as a sales receipt or cash voucher or other confirming payment of the specified goods the document. Absence at the consumer of the commodity check or the cash voucher or other confirming payment of the goods document does not deprive of its possibility to refer to testimony.
(as amended by Federal law of 21.12.2004 N 171-FZ)
The list of goods not subject to exchange on the grounds specified in the present article, approved by the Government of the Russian Federation.

2. In case the similar goods is absent on sale on the same day the consumer to the seller, the consumer is entitled to withdraw from the contract of sale and demand the return paid for the specified goods amount of money. The requirement of the consumer about return paid for the specified goods amount of money to be satisfied within three days from the date of return of said goods.
By agreement between the consumer and the seller exchange of goods may be provided at receipt of the similar goods in sale. Seller shall immediately inform the consumer on receipt of the similar goods in sale.
(clause 2 as amended by Federal law of 21.12.2004 N 171-FZ)

The LIST
NON-FOOD GOODS OF PROPER QUALITY,
NOT ELIGIBLE FOR REFUND OR EXCHANGE FOR A SIMILAR
GOODS OF OTHER SIZE, SHAPE, SIZE, STYLE,
COLOUR OR PACKAGE

(as amended by resolutions of the Government of the Russian Federation of 20.10.1998 N 1222,
from 06.02.2002 N 81)

1. Products for the prevention and treatment of diseases in house conditions (subjects of sanitary and hygiene from metal, rubbers, textiles and other materials, tools,
instruments and apparatus medical
, means of hygiene of an oral cavity, lenses, items for care of children), drugs
(as amended by the Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation of 20.10.1998 N 1222)
2. Personal hygiene items (toothbrushes, combs, hair clips, hair rollers, wigs, chignons and other similar products)
(clause 2 as amended by decree of the Government of the Russian Federation of 20.10.1998 N 1222)
3. Cosmetic products
4. Textiles (cotton, linen, silk, wool and synthetic fabrics, the goods from nonwoven materials of type of fabrics - tapes, ribbons, lace and others); cable production (wires, cords, cables); construction and finishing materials (linoleum, film, carpets and others) and other goods sold by the meter
(p. 4 as amended by the Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation of 20.10.1998 N 1222)
5. Sewing and knitted products (products sewing and knitted linen, products chulochno-nosochnye)
6. Products and materials in contact with foodstuff, from polymeric materials, including single-use (utensils and accessories table and kitchen, capacities and packing materials for storage and transportation of foodstuff)
7. Household chemicals, pesticides and agrochemicals
(as amended by the Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation of 20.10.1998 N 1222)
8. Furniture household (furniture sets and kits)
9. Articles of precious metals, precious stones, precious metals with inserts of semiprecious and synthetic stones, faceted gems
10. Cars and Motovilovka, trailers and number units to them; mobile means of mechanization of agricultural work; pleasure boats and other household boats
11.
Technically difficult goods of a household purpose on which warranty periods are established
(machine tools metal-cutting and woodworking household; electrical machines and devices;
consumer electronic equipment
; domestic computing and multiplying equipment; photographic and cinematographic equipment; telephone sets and facsimile equipment; electronic musical instruments; toys electronic, the household gas equipment and devices)
(as amended by resolutions of the Government of the Russian Federation of 20.10.1998 N 1222 from 06.02.2002 N 81)
12. Civilian weapons, main parts of civilian and duty firearms, ammunition
(clause 12 introduced by the government of the Russian Federation of 20.10.1998 N 1222)
13. Animals and plants
(clause 13 introduced by the Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation of 20.10.1998 N 1222)
14. Non-recurrent publications (books, brochures, albums, cartographic and sheet music publications, sheet and pictorials, calendars, booklets, publications reproduced on technical information carriers)
(paragraph 14 introduced by Decree of the RF Government dated 06.02.2002 N 81)
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Does it irritate you? And You already figured out? I have no :?<

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Post by Евгений78 » Thu Oct 29, 2009 16:12

Dimas, it is not necessary to lay out the laws here. The court has still other motives on which we decided. And there is also an examination. That you are once again alarmed? If you are honest, and what you fear.

Yeah, I figured it out. And I wish You the same.

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Post by Dimas » Thu Oct 29, 2009 16:25

Евгений78
You full and detailed answers to your questions is more convenient to consider a planner? And with our customers we are honest, and therefore there is this forum.The laws lay out is useful, you never know who else is not familiar :?

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Post by Жека3000 » Thu Oct 29, 2009 16:41

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If to speak about the law on consumer protection, then You posted only probably a tenth of it. He's much bigger and there are points on which item to get it back within a few months, and not just for two weeks. And there are Sooo many nuances that allow the user to successfully defend in court their rights.

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Post by Dimas » Thu Oct 29, 2009 16:46

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:) I posted only what relates directly to OUR products. Namely "LIST
NON-FOOD GOODS OF PROPER QUALITY,
NOT ELIGIBLE FOR REFUND OR EXCHANGE FOR A SIMILAR
The PRODUCT"
all the brochure quote doesn't make sense. Legally I know the drill well, so it's safe to say that the above is quite enough (experience).

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Post by Жека3000 » Thu Oct 29, 2009 17:53

Dimas wrote:Legally savvy I'm good
A legal education?:)

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Thu Oct 29, 2009 18:22

something in all subjects - spalskie "float"
nothing guys, hold on, there'll be snow and everything will settle down :-)

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