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Funny, yesterday I created a topic
I wanted to determine the machine and asked which is better, David Fell and Photosonics. I compared the inner Pulse, and David Fell on the information that there is about them online. 40 minutes wrote , translated partly from German, and I thought maybe someone else would be useful.
It seemed to me from the descriptions that there are different technologies. I wanted to hear the answer from vBulletin and s who understands this.
The answer came...
...in a personal letter to the moderator that I "promote third-party product" on your forum.
Topic removed as all my messages (there were 2) which mentioned David Pal. All absolutno harmless, I'm a completely normal user, which thought in turn that this is a real forum, not a PR one species mindmachine.

Let people dissuade me. Very weak while my suspicion was confirmed yesterday when, instead of answering the question I received the removal of threads. IMHO a Forum exclusively commercial, though it looks as the experiences of satisfied customers and good feedback sellers. And I fell even almost bought something.

the fact that this forum provides support only for the equipment we sell here. Owners of other MM will be slightly in the way, in my opinion (I MM) I'm sure Your MM has a forum. if You are just thinking what to buy, then uznaite about Innerpulse here, and another MM on the forum, where about it it is and compare.
Other models MM for local admins "dark forest"(without obydiv).
buy here MM it will definitely help You out.
There is also a feature sold MM, try and decide for yourself.
Happy NG!

Reading the forum, I realized that the authors about other products not only heard, but was going to buy, but it did not work.
The point is just that I heard about Innerpulse unflattering reviews.
And the description of Innerpulse very blurry and fuzzy and probably explains the purpose of the preset programs than the principle of the device.
In any case, I understand, will have to read alternative sources.

Happy new year!

Мескалитос wrote:Reading the forum, I realized that the authors about other products not only heard, but was going to buy, but it did not work.
The point is just that I heard about Innerpulse unflattering reviews.
And the description of Innerpulse very blurry and fuzzy and probably explains the purpose of the preset programs than the principle of the device.
In any case, I understand, will have to read alternative sources.

Happy new year!

On the contrary I MM Innerpulse liked very much because of flexibility and low cost. There was another firm, with colored glasses, but my settings did not take.
What You have read about the inner Pulse of this unflattering, it will be interesting to read to all of us. Think wrote it, one who sells cars of other firms.

I read a negative review in the description of the German online store. They sell extras and even Innerpulse , but recommend just David Fell. They claimed that no other machines do not give such effective and lasting effect , although they sell a variety of devices, from the cheapest to the most expensive.
Actually this was my question in a remote topic, it really is.

I personally found the description of both devices, and that there was no Innerpulse is:
- Ganzfeld Effect
- separate stimulation of the left and right visual fields of each eye.
Here's a picture from another topic from this forum:



But it bothered me something else. That plus Inerals will.
There they somehow condescending and dismissive mentioned that other devices apart from David, only give a psychedelic effect and designed for entertainment.
I also just do not mind psychedelia, very even.

I would like to know some feature of the Assembly David Fell weakens or negates the psychedelic effects that just have the same inner Pulse?
Probably under the psychedelia it was meant not only related to the relaxation experience, to abolish may be the only one who came up with person. Most likely talking about the stroboscopic effect.
That confuses me, suddenly there is it by design or for some other reason there is.
For example, due to the weak brightness of the LEDs, or for some other reason.

The principle of operation of all the Mm one, one more or less functions.
I don't think the model is.
And about left and right lobes of each eye, take a led from a lighter and Shine in the closed eyes and wiggle still see both parts.
Take whatever closer.

Мескалитос wrote:I read a negative review in the description of the German online store. They sell extras and even Innerpulse , but recommend just David Fell. They claimed that no other machines do not give such effective and lasting effect , although they sell a variety of devices, from the cheapest to the most expensive.
Actually this was my question in a remote topic, it really is.

I personally found the description of both devices, and that there was no Innerpulse is:
- Ganzfeld Effect
- separate stimulation of the left and right visual fields of each eye.

But it bothered me something else. That plus Inerals will.
There they somehow condescending and dismissive mentioned that other devices apart from David, only give a psychedelic effect and designed for entertainment.
I also just do not mind psychedelia, very even.

I would like to know some feature of the Assembly David Fell weakens or negates the psychedelic effects that just have the same inner Pulse?
Probably under the psychedelia it was meant not only related to the relaxation experience, to abolish may be the only one who came up with person. Most likely talking about the stroboscopic effect.
That confuses me, suddenly there is it by design or for some other reason there is.
For example, due to the weak brightness of the LEDs, or for some other reason.

Actually have myself soberly to submit to the rules of conduct on the forums. It should be noted that this forum is very, very democratic approach... I also read Your posts to David and I also got the impression that went PR on this machine.
In order to have an idea about how all of these devices enough to find and read my articles and guidelines posted on this website. After reading it becomes clear that the application by Davids pure water a marketing gimmick, because the principle is the same everywhere and nothing super special I think. Have Photosonics also have glasses HemiStym giving the opportunity to more accurately stimulate the different hemispheres of the brain. The application is about ganzfeld effect gently gauvreau, untrue as it is a completely normal glasses and they do not have a uniform illumination of the entire field of view. Tips on their website to keep their glasses half balls for ping-pong, in my opinion, very funny...
And the equivocation about the psychedelic effects associated with the most likely excuse, since goggles of this type, as of David, do not give beautiful kaleidoscopic pictures, which some take for psychedelic. Look in these glasses are quite boring, like a spoiled TV, although, in fairness, I note that the efficiency effects on the brain it is absolutely the same as points with LEDs.<

Андрей Патрушев wrote:Actually have to soberly introduce rules of conduct on the forums. It should be noted that this forum is very, very democratic approach... I also read Your posts to David and I also got the impression that went PR on this machine.
...

Though these words are addressed to Mescalitos but they relate to my posts, I first started talking about this MM. For that he received a note from Andrew Kabankova and for which he has apologized.
I like Mescalitos I want to understand what are the advantages of one machine over another.

But I see that I shall have to acquire MM InnerPulse and decide which is better

Well firstly we are not the guys...
Secondly, after removing me of your promotional product I wrote to you in a private message.
The third is not a platform to promote products and forum support our customers.Promotion of the goods,as I wrote in a personal message ,provides a commercial relationship.
Of course we will delete advertising posts,even if they souvorova in the form of a question and answer.Nobody prevents to create to third-party sellers a forum to discuss all the issues that interest the buyers of their products.Why should it be here?We support all products that we supply to Russia.

here is the answer to the question.

Just wondering where you saw there a promotion? In the above-mentioned domain name other store, written in Russian letters (with the aim, so God forbid not suspected of anything)?!

Andrei PatrushevI hope you understand that your articles have in the eyes of the inquisitive reader not more weight than the opinion of an ordinary man in the street, and be interested in selling discs.
Moreover, most articles written popularizesana. By the way, advertising , not Informatsionnaya the purpose of writing is immediately apparent.
Not specified anywhere that you are in expert in some area. All these stories about institutions of the interior Ministry, where cadets train with ABC, or referred to the approval of the ABC-stimulation by the Ministry of health of the Russian Federation - these are just conversations without attribution.

It seems that the conversation has brazenly comes into the field of competition.
usually the beds on New Year's planting, but I think the moderators are for the benefit of society MM inner Pulse will do.

Князевский wrote:it Seems that the conversation has brazenly comes into the field of competition.
usually the beds on New Year's planting, but I think the moderators are for the benefit of society MM inner Pulse will do.

Ready!

Now that's service!

Мескалитос wrote:especially most of the articles written popularizesana. By the way, advertising , not Informatsionnaya the purpose of writing is immediately apparent.

And you go to the websites of other manufacturers and distributors of a mind-machines. There you will see the same popularized the style of presenting information. The only difference is supplied languages: it serves Russian, and there are others.

By the way I have two MM: mind-Spa and innerpulse in innerpulse I like a session of relaxation in a mind-Spa like session at the stimulation, although here and there there is all necessary for me.

I mean now they say that essentially the difference between a mind-machine no. You can buy any MM: it will give you everything you need. The rest - the taste and pickiness of the person.

If you want to listen to audiostrobe disks, then you should take MM with support of this regime. If you want to load additional sessions, so you should take MM with support of this regime. If you want to have flexibility in any session, then you should take MM with support of this regime.

And if you want all the features, here is only Innerpulse. Since the choice here is not thick: the range only consists of three MM + of mind Spa on another site.

Мескалитос wrote:here is the answer to the question.

Just wondering where you saw there a promotion? In the above-mentioned domain name other store, written in Russian letters (with the aim, so God forbid not suspected of anything)?!

Andrei PatrushevI hope you understand that your articles have in the eyes of the inquisitive reader not more weight than the opinion of an ordinary man in the street, and be interested in selling discs.
Moreover, most articles written popularizesana. By the way, advertising , not Informatsionnaya the purpose of writing is immediately apparent.
Not specified anywhere that you are in expert in some area. All these stories about institutions of the interior Ministry, where cadets train with ABC, or referred to the approval of the ABC-stimulation by the Ministry of health of the Russian Federation - these are just conversations without attribution.

I six months ago I decided to ask the question on the forum one medical and I have respected about MM.
Thus my question is exactly about that, don't hurt me MM.

Just closed the topic, considered advertising.
So it was a shame

Pavel wrote:by the Way, I have two MM: mind-Spa and innerpulse in innerpulse I like a session of relaxation in a mind-Spa like session at the stimulation, although here and there there is all necessary for me.

I mean now they say that essentially the difference between a mind-machine no. You can buy any MM: it will give you everything you need. The rest - the taste and pickiness of the person.

If you want to listen to audiostrobe disks, then you should take MM with support of this regime. If you want to load additional sessions, so you should take MM with support of this regime. If you want to have flexibility in any session, then you should take MM with support of this regime.

URAAA! Thank you,Pavel, a huge! Finally found a clear answer to the main question almost!
And will not be able to just answer my torment in the "customer questions" ->"causes somene"? I will be very grateful

MMM-Ah, this patny cactus has clearly not matured... 8- ((((((((

Уномоменто wrote:MMM-Ah, this patny cactus has clearly not matured... 8- ((((((((

If the stone in my garden, then let me remind banality: it is not a shame to know shame not to try to know. It unomomentos, of course, strasno cool! What a Mature and all-knowing from birth cactus (of course, patny)! Snobbery is a sign in General... well, bad

Мескалитос wrote:But it bothered me something else. That plus Inerals will.
There they somehow condescending and dismissive mentioned that other devices apart from David, only give a psychedelic effect and designed for entertainment.

I also just do not mind psychedelia, very even.

I would like to know some feature of the Assembly David Fell weakens or negates the psychedelic effects that just have the same inner Pulse?

What about psychedelia, I also hooked)) As I understand it, these "beautiful kaleidoscopic pictures" are caused by the powerful bright lights sracek and not from the corners feed in sracek, maybe it depends on the color of the diode or multi-colored flashing? And may additionally need emotional whether "beautiful kaleidoscopic pictures" to intentionally cause the defined practitioners? I have such a heavy case with visualization since childhood...(( With the eyes closed can not do anything sensible to imagine all grey in the fog and amorphous. I have long trained his visualization, different techniques. Hard, exhausting, and frankly too lazy to do a daily workout... Just in meditation in the alpha level (a state between sleep and wakefulness), sometimes with GREAT difficulty cause colored clear quality vision and that individual objects or items. But what would generate a Matrix with all its abundance (my dream), already does. All in vain. Tried minimized to encourage canabile, perfectly expand the subconscious mind, but just as good Hasna and loses embossing from the topic...
I want to individually pick up a MM and so a particular selection of points (I feel this is the main criterion). An individual set which forced me (by the collar) to tighten it is invaluable as with a bright, colorful, crisp (at least 1200dpi ) pictures. If I did not get the expected effect from MM?
And the last question why no one sells a simplified and more functional MM that will be on the software level in the computer. And by PC connect the same headphones and the goggles and helmet could be the sensors of brain activity (for the analysis) - sooo convenient, practical and professional it would be. Only due to the fact that the program will crack and then lose your income? It is possible to focus resources on the sensors on the glasses, maybe even gloves to connect to the system. To create a kind of "virtual reality". I think such a set can push for 600$. It all depends on the exhaust in the end. I am ready and stuff to post, lizh this unit forced my mouth to open spontaneously with delight......... BrainwaveGenerator idea pushed, but at the school level I do not consider serious.<

I also had a problem with visualization.... wait using disk Explorer and points Indigo premium I finally broke... I can'T SEE ANY IMAGES.... after 3 months of training with MM, I saw distinct images (they are on white-blue background - shape of the homes) with the glasses the images colortrak I don't see ie finally only the bright kaleidoscopic multi-colored geometric design....

Mescalito wrote(a):
But it bothered me something else. That plus Inerals will.
There they somehow condescending and dismissive mentioned that other devices apart from David, only give a psychedelic effect and designed for entertainment.

I also just do not mind psychedelia, very even.

I would like to know some feature of the Assembly David Fell weakens or negates the psychedelic effects that just have the same inner Pulse?


What about psychedelia, I also hooked)) As I understand it, these "beautiful kaleidoscopic pictures" are caused by the powerful bright lights sracek and not from the corners feed in sracek, maybe it depends on the color of the diode or multi-colored flashing? And may additionally need emotional whether "beautiful kaleidoscopic pictures" to intentionally cause the defined practitioners? I have such a heavy case with visualization since childhood...(( With the eyes closed can not do anything sensible to imagine all grey in the fog and amorphous. I have long trained his visualization, different techniques. Hard, exhausting, and frankly too lazy to do a daily workout... Just in meditation in the alpha level (a state between sleep and wakefulness), sometimes with GREAT difficulty cause colored clear quality vision and that individual objects or items. But what would generate a Matrix with all its abundance (my dream), already does. All in vain. Tried minimized to encourage canabile, perfectly expand the subconscious mind, but just as good Hasna and loses embossing from the topic...
I want to individually pick up a MM and so a particular selection of points (I feel this is the main criterion). An individual set which forced me (by the collar) to tighten it is invaluable as with a bright, colorful, crisp (at least 1200dpi ) pictures. If I did not get the expected effect from MM?
And the last question why no one sells a simplified and more functional MM that will be on the software level in the computer. And by PC connect the same headphones and the goggles and helmet could be the sensors of brain activity (for the analysis) - sooo convenient, practical and professional it would be. Only due to the fact that the program will crack and then lose your income? It is possible to focus resources on the sensors on the glasses, maybe even gloves to connect to the system. To create a kind of "virtual reality". I think such a set can push for 600$. It all depends on the exhaust in the end. I am ready and stuff to post, lizh this unit forced my mouth to open spontaneously with delight......... BrainwaveGenerator idea pushed, but at the school level I do not consider serious.<

And I do not see even as you say a vivid, kaleidoscopic pictures
Machine inner+ glasses of premium white. Anyhow IDNO, chess, word!!!!!

Anonymous wrote:But I do not see even as you say a vivid, kaleidoscopic pictures
Machine inner+ glasses of premium white. Anyhow IDNO, chess, word!!!!!

Try playing with the brightness (unless, of course, already used). Moreover, there is an optimum position, which is not always maximized.