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Милена · Post by **Милена** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 13:51

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So, first I will describe my strong opinion to the TRANS. I made the unequivocal decision to test it more myself. I have to this personal story had a clear idea that altered States can be used to achieve some utilitarian purposes (e.g. language learning).
I also knew that the investigation stay in a hypnotic state is absolutely not eternal – no technique stands the test of time without its constant repetition, the client rolls to the same place and was. Who wants to – can see the statistics of the results of coding from alcohol, for example, dependencies. It is that it becomes clear – the man does not drink for 12 years not because of encoding, but rather in spite of it. This fact of hypnosis, but in another context, by the way, drew the attention of the accountant, Allen Carr, have developed a system "Easy way to quit Smoking", using the tools of NLP, who died recently, sadly, from lung cancer. Simple owner, it can be downloaded on the Internet really helps people to quit Smoking, BUT only once. If the client, after several months of abstinence from the cigarette, sticks it in his mouth, believing that controlling the result, then how much would he have not read this book again and applied it to different parts of your body, including the "third" eye – he still smokes.

Andrei Patrushev says: "Disk Explorer do includes a combination of several modern technologies, the Text is organized using the principles of Ericksonian hypnosis and neuro-linguistic programming (NLP), carefully calibrated phonosemantic text (phonetic sound number corresponds to that in the Orthodox prayers)...(break quote), But the most fundamental (without which everything else is really just not working) principle as NLP, so Ericksonian hypnosis is the recording and saving to internal of human ecology, Metaphor, vagueness, checking if it's all given to man are the principles of the work of Milton Erickson, that's why his disciples still called him "a storyteller", He was deeply convinced that every person already possesses to the full all the resources for change, And the problem is not that people are somehow broken, sick or stupid, and the problem – in an internal systemic organization of human experience, which Erickson gently suggest a person to change helping him in the choice by telling true stories about yourself, friends, former patients, plants, animals, and nature, While the man himself (subconsciously) choose what suits him best and literally "try on" and if he liked it, I continued to use it, And if I say "subconscious" - it does not mean that you're hiding some kind of enemy that can spoil, guided by some extraneous suggestions, One of the tasks of our subconscious is the protection of our integrity, our health and survival, a Professional hypnotist has repeatedly noted that in a hypnotic state people are much more protected with their deep wisdom from hazardous actions than the ordinary conscious
The same audio program on the disc Explorer I can not think of hypnosis, although hypnotic use there certain techniques that facilitate entry into needed for successful work on a state",

Will figure it out. I suggest curious to meet you (in the Internet) with a book Gordeev, M. N. "Classical and Ericksonian hypnosis: a Practical guide". So how will "pull" out of context solely complementary in content to Ericksonian hypnosis and NLP techniques quotes.

So: "the deeper the trance, the less control the patient's consciousness over the words that you speak. It should be remembered that the suggestion can be formulated in different ways. You can say: "Forget all that was unpleasant." And you can do it more zakamuflirovanie said, "And some inner voice may whisper to you: "Forget all that was unpleasant"". In fact, the suggestion is also direct but camouflaged.
A second class suggestion — indirect suggestion. This suggestion is indirect, soft and delicate, sometimes insinuating. So, what kinds of indirect suggestions come in.
Complex composite
Complex compound suggestion is a compound or complex sentence. Most often the first part of the sentence is the joining, i.e., describes what is happening with the patient, and the second part is the conduct, i.e. talking about the effect that the physician wants to obtain.
"And the longer you hear my voice, the deeper you can sink into trance."
"And as your breath becomes smooth, you can relax even more."
The sequence of making
This suggestion is similar to the previous, but consists of a larger number of phrases of adhesion, allowing it to achieve greater patient consent. We are talking about sequential
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tional acceptance of some ideas. People follow the logic of your speech, mentally agrees with each postulate, as agreed with the previous one. The most famous example is the rule of four "Yes", i.e. when the opponent four times you answered "Yes" to your questions, requests, statements, the fifth time he will say "Yes" automatically.
"We met only today, and already the evening, we had such a good day, we rode the carousel, ate ice cream, come back tomorrow, get out of kindergarten."
"We are with you in this room. You hear my voice, feel the chair in which you sit, slowly ticking clock, and your eyes may want to close".
Presuppositions
Under the presupposition or assumption refers to the phenomenon that will happen that can not happen. A proposal is usually built as a composite and is constructed in such a way that the stress falls on another part and unstressed part and is a presupposition, because it sounds like a matter of course.
"When you sit in this chair, you will be able to do self-exploration" (assuming in a chair you have to sit).
"When you go to the store, buy some kartoshki" (assuming you go to the store).
Truisms
Very close to the presuppositions are the truisms or platitudes that can be considered as a kind of suggestion, or as waste rock, which is necessary to fill the space of your speech. Those who are familiar with pharmacology, know that tablets only a specific part of medicinal substances, and everything else is filler. Here are the truisms sometimes serve for filling, and sometimes are directly compelled. They are facts and phenomena, which are known to all, and the man even gets boring to listen to this, because that's all they know.
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The subject can not even assume of suggestion in such phrases.
"Everything flows, everything changes" (the suggestion of changes in the person).
"In winter the trees are covered with snow, but still have a life" (the suggestion of the availability of resources).
Paradoxical negative
They usually carry negative particles. Such a suggestion can act in three ways. First, we attract the attention of the patient to the object or phenomenon, though, and ask back: "And you can not listen my voice, listen to what I say." Guess what will man do?
Second, the number of patients used to disagree with everyone and with you in particular, and you use them a strategy neoclassicalists, on mathematical principle, a minus and a minus makes a plus.
Thirdly, the particle "not" the unconscious is not absorbed, and hence the phrase "You can close your eyes and don't close your eyes", sounds actually like a double compulsion to close eyes.
"Don't think about the white monkey, never mind about that disgusting animal that grimace, shows a red ass..." (Nasreddin Hodja).
"Whatever you do, Brer Fox, don't throw me in the briar patch" (Brer Rabbit).
Double bind or no-choice
The logic of action similar to presuppositions, gives an illusory choice where there is none. Such a suggestion is accepted easily, because there is a semblance of a free decision. The pathological mechanism of the double bond can be the basis of psychological problems, when the mind has a formal choice, freedom, and the unconscious understands is a dead end and there is no choice.
"You prefer to immerse yourself in a trance on a chair or go into a chair?" (In a trance you still go or on a chair or on a chair.)
"You'll go to bed now or when you get the toy?"
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Metaphor
Metaphor is the main suggestion in Ericksonian hypnosis. You, for example, not necessarily to say that in life everything can change. The context changes, you can enter a completely different way using a metaphor. For example: "We know how the tree grows, it was a sprout, and then became more and more, higher and higher, gradually became a mighty tree. One day came a storm and damaged the tree and now the tree stands and knows — it is life or death, because life is stopped after a storm. And only when it is itself supposed to live, it will return the life...". Formally, we are talking about the tree, but the metaphor has several properties that make it an important tool of psychotherapy:
- the similarity of the patient's problem. With the tree in the unconscious patient binds himself, and all that speaks of wood, takes on your account as a suggestion as a command to action.
- integrity of an image metaphor allows her to find the way to redominate, abstract hemisphere of the brain, which is considered the area of the unconscious, bypassing the processing in the mind. There are patient problems, and resources to address it.
- the ambiguity of metaphors allows the patient to find the meaning that he needs, even if the therapist is not invested. For example, ask people around you, what conclusions can be drawn from the tale of Cinderella, and you will learn a lot.
Contextual suggestion
Present when measured against the background of speech of the word or phrase is highlighted tone of voice, pauses, volume, or any other speech characteristics. Consciousness realizes that the logic of the sentence is not broken and does not interfere with, the unconscious aktiviziruyutsya, sensing the highlighted word. Can be used, for example, in combination with the enumeration of the possible options, highlighting the desired:
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"To lose weight, you can go on a diet, deal shaping, to invite the therapist... going to therapy..."
Mobilizing suggestion
Used to create a special procedure for the construction of the phrase, spoken in one breath (don't be surprised! Offer during the trance could be broken down into several phrases, each of which is pronounced separately, in the next breath). At the end is the verb, or verbal parts of speech, for example, communion, which are mobilizing, motivating nature, which is enhanced by accent. Such phrasing encourages the unconscious of the subject, pushing him to action.
"And you can begin to MOVE... to the goal that you REALIZE... and when you're ready to CHANGE... you will be able to DO it."
Suggestion related to time
Suggestion related to time, mean that when the time comes, instilled changes will occur. The patient is given the interval when he can perform the prescribed action. Since this time gap is given and there is no hard requirement run right now, the patient internally agrees, and changes occur. Suggestion related to time can be seen as a variant of the double bundles:
"Every person changes occur at different speeds: some enough day to change someone the two, someone needs a week."
"As you go deeper into trance your body will relax immediately or some time later".
Allusions or hints
This kind of suggestion is formed when you do not call the words of some fact or phenomenon, but to hint at it. The allusion should be clear to the patient, i.e. to be a fact of his life, part of your previous meetings or to be generally known and accepted. For example, when my patient, who prihoza appointment is not the first time he hears the phrase: "Time to work", he gets comfortable in his chair, puts his hands on the armrest and closes his eyes and begins to sink into a trance without additional commands.
"And maybe before you go into a trance you can feel the tension of his muscles, feel the tension, then to allow them to feel something different" (an allusion to the relaxation.)
Open to suggestion
Sometimes open to suggestion allocate a separate group, but they are close to indirect. Are created in the following way: you give people a few ideas to choose from, list the solution. Usually you cannot assume all the features of the patient and it is better to leave the choice open so he could invest in his own thoughts, as if taking a suggestion from you.
"And in order to learn hypnosis, you can read books, watch educational videos, you can come for the seminar and can do something else that will allow you to achieve this goal."
There are other types of suggestions that you will find in their practice."

In the next post, I will give a "suggestion" from the disk, which, from my point of view:

- encourage listening to the handler to repeat the exercise;
- encourage to seek "adventure" on his head;
- is directed to the solution of "problems" in my sleep;
leave no doubt that problems in listening CERTAINLY is.

At the beginning of the forum, many listeners noticed that they said similar about their "aggressiveness". I have not made comments. You agree that these are different things: "I became more attentive to people" and "you became more responsive to me" - said a friend/girlfriend/mom/wife? Not own any illusions about their changes? You see no contradiction?

it is noteworthy That without exception these techniques on the background of pronounced suggestive phonosematic components the Milena in most of the previous passages.
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Лилка · Post by **Лилка** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 15:25

Milena
if not difficult, as the posts shorter to do?

first, read hard (!!!);
secondly, there is a still forum, and not the articles section (you can, for example, a link to the source just give up, or to lay out only the most significant points);

!!!! And why You delete some of your first posts? make sense? it is not clear at all... ???????

Милена · Post by **Милена** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 15:52

Lily
Short... Yes I would love that. If without laughing, then as a conversation "on the merits"? I brought only the terms of Ericksonian hypnosis. I thought this was important to separate flies from cutlets. To stop - there is a compulsion/not compulsion. A thinking person reads and CHECKS. And in that book is 100 pages. Well, it's HARD) So the man is a farmer on the thunder baptized, but Tesla worked with electricity)
I agree that the forum is not a place for articles. But in justification of the opinion. Or will we - like/not like? So on this occasion we have spoken)

Some of my posts deleted because we will not say who, although it was the elephant, removed mine, and the couple finally placed.

Милена · Post by **Милена** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 15:56

Removed since it is neither a discussion nor a review of the Explorer

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You tell me what I should do, please. Now I'm quoting drive engaged. And you said - but how and what not to text to read (screen). Here's what to do, huh?

For example: well, let's try again: "And looking at their way of life, you can immerse yourself protected in the memories of someone You loved and who loved and protected You."

Wonderful words. I'm starting to think, of course, their loved ones, tune into "pleasant" memories.

"about what You have learned and what we still have to learn, because any person and any situation in which we have met in life has left in our soul an indelible fingerprints and literally become parts of ourselves and these parts live with us and serve us, even despite the fact that some of them our mind once rejected and pushed away"

I'm suspicious (check the word "fingerprints" at least through the system of BAAL (is a truncated demo version) (print - "a quiet, short, weak" - so what? Surfactant). What are these prints? Oh yeah) it is written as "INDELIBLE." And why my mind had pushed away someone I love, and who loved and cared about me?
"But we can accept them and forgive them, because now they have our private parts and continue to serve us when we forgive and accept and now I can do it harmoniously, better, harder and more energized than before, when we (or You) fought with them and tried to push them away. So, if in this journey he will meet a painful and unpleasant memories, it is very important that the brain always remembers its right and duty to a special transformation to restrict access to Your sensible part to these problems and Your subconscious resources enough to do it. And they really protect You from harm, in a special way by converting them to more pleasant and acceptable".

Here's reflecting hi – it turns out that my pleasant memories contain unpleasant and repulsive memories? Okay. So be it, the more it is good "chatting up" me.

Yes, really...
I feel bad for her.

What really is black PR... absurd...

It seems that all meaning is lost... if only to insist on...
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Милена · Post by **Милена** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 17:27

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"One of the properties of the unconscious is literal, the specificity of perception: if a speech therapist, appear in double words or metaphors, the mind perceives this play of words, the unconscious perceives words as specific. For example, you can assume that a courteous preamble to the question with which one person speaks to another: "Tell me, please...", the unconscious will not allow him to finish, will take it as an order, and I will answer: "Please." This literalism is very important because it allows you to communicate with the patient on two levels, but the therapist needs to possess verbal filigree technique, creating his suggestions. Based on this fact and many others, it is believed that the unconscious has the character of a child who perceives the world without any blinders in the eyes, directly, specifically, he is not burdened with conventions and twists of logic":

therefore: "You can set at the right level that You need to meet with an obstacle or problem to from the deepest depths it is pleasantly exciting feeling of confidence and clarity, strength and energy, curiosity and inspiration and therefore all the more adamant is Your determination and all the more exciting is getting Your desire to acquire more experience systematically and independently exercising as much caution and care and easily paying this much effort and time, love and energy as you need to study their own opportunities and choice in a special way transforming fear, anxiety and doubt in love, the power and creative energy for success overcoming obstacles, knowing that You always are under special protection" means

LITERALLY - have enthusiastically and joyfully to meet the problem, investigate it, believing that PROTECTION is present. Just ENOUGH (no effort just). Notice how different the install YOU need to MEET, IF YOU MEET, IF YOU HAVE to MEET. What we have in the rest: the MAN that no attention is paid to the manifestations of the external world in General, is in his own world - "therefore, all the more unshakable is Your determination and all the more exciting is getting Your desire to acquire a richer experience." Where's the choice at all? If I understand correctly, then the selection refers to the word "may"? Hope quotes from the book correctly allow it to interpret.
It concerned the search of adventure on his head (see the post about the accident) I would refer to the consequences of this impact and sudden illness (also a good area for research).

"And Your brain knows how to set the access change, and how pleasant it is to provide useful modifications, extreme power and knowledge, love and energy, so from now on, each time, here and now, and in any dream, these transformations work better, easier and deeper and your changes are independently and at a deep level in tune with your needs and goals and successfully provide a valid transition to a more strong and wise... authentic States of consciousness..." - and it promised a setting to "study" in dreams "in every dream".
And here's another one, and later another one. explaining why we don't remember their dreams:
"And so, each time You learn easier and faster, and your mind can be it's unclear how soon You will learn that the brain is already tuned to the necessary knowledge, feelings and behavior, but it does not matter whether You knew or not before comfortably resting, continued healing, and allow yourself to learn something great that You can successfully and easily use that brain already knows how to do it. And in the dream, or at another appropriate time carry out this healing process on all levels, down to the deepest source."

The repetition of "training" - the end of the disk (before the report): the next time You start to take better and faster, freely taking from the beginning or quickly and harmoniously as part of the rhythm and the pace and translating into the language of your brain is the meaning of what it says and pauses between words and each time, the here and now and in EVERY DREAM useful changes become deeper and more rapid. And so I can remember that it is best to remember and to forget what needs to a complete makeover to remain at a subconscious level... And the beginning of it): "It (the mind) the voice sounds in the head, probably asking yourself: "how much it will dive easier, more comfortable and deeper compared to the previous one?", so Your brain already knows how THEY (accurately calibrated? Hee) to respond and calm down the discussion, because even the deepest work can be done with a light dip..."

In fact, everything. Using medicme that posted above, each of the suggestions can be "trained" to classify. In the course I found more stuff, but already tired.

And then the General is to drive.
I'm probably even ready to apologize...

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Евгений Кош · Post by **Евгений Кош** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 22:55

Милена wrote:"One of the properties of the unconscious is literalism, a concreteness of perception.....

Milena..
Your behavior is called bullying on the forum.
You too have gone too far pushing in forum whole parts of dictionaries.
About Your excitation is TRANS or not TRANS..
Do you think that only You understand what is a conductor?
Do you think that here people are less intelligent than You? and that these people don't know definitions?

Do you think that You're being asked for proof of Your confidence in what You believe?
For what purpose are You trying to convince others in your opinion ?
The most important thing that You understood what I wanted.. and this is the goal.. the rest forumyane how smart people (there are smarter than You and me) will make the decisions - it is their sacred duty.. but it seems to me that You don't like it

Евгений Кош · Post by **Евгений Кош** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 23:03

Милена wrote:
Евгений Кош wrote:Events, and guide.
This Saturday got food for thought.

Describe the story:-

I also decided to evaluate his desire to "go home." thought, from what I as home to the pulls.. AA! remember, I have the same today the day of the audition the conductor just the third day after the previous listening .. if you do not listen, then break to get more than 3 days...

AI.. departed from the store, at the intersection get into an accident. (was driving on the far right lane on a green light.. from the left-hand "horseman" decided to rebuild in our row.. I urgently braked (looked in the rear view mirror what is coming from behind the car from me so 20-25 meters) in the braking process, the skirted it ("horseman")the car and stood up behind his car.. and once the gas ( don't know why so wanted).. but thought again managed to avoid collision, the showdown to anything.. BUT .. to my surprise ( when my a/m after 2-3 meters from the place where stood after braking) getting hit in the back of the car. For a second I thought that this "horseman" decided vsetaki to complete the maneuver ) Look back and wonder.. I got hit by a car that was driving down my row but very far from me..

.. - a desire to hear the conductor's led to such consequences???.. hmm.. to say that this is purely a coincidence - we all know that everything that happens is of consequence.. - what it was.
But the desire to go home was very strong that even slightly alarmed me.
Good morning. Probably crash associated with mental injuries that have been inflicted in childhood. Most likely during the period when You drove in the stroller. Probably, Your mother or grandmother once ran a contest with another vehicle (another pram). You can assume that Your crew failed to finish first. It is also possible that the injury was inflicted at a later date, when You can drive a vehicle (bike or scooter. However, we cannot exclude the roller skates). I think that working with Your Natal astrology map could shed light on this question. However, You should not forget (there are a lot was mentioned) that Your subconscious chooses - that You can survive.

Milena.. You surprise me.
Ie if my car drove in the ass.. it from the fact that in childhood "...Probably Your mom or grandmother once ran a contest with another vehicle (another pram). You can assume that Your crew failed to finish first... "...

careful.. read the posts.. you beguiled even someone who moved in.
Well, with Your interpretation of events -- I have nothing to add.. this is a very unique and bold assumption.. I never thought of this .. wash my hands.. I realized that I in this area such as You just cannot compete - it is useless

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Евгений Кош · Post by **Евгений Кош** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 0:08

Dimas wrote:
Милена wrote:Dimasgood stud)
I honestly admire administracia - my messages until udalaya.
You're not bullies,on the contrary...thank You very much for Your time and attention!After all, mediocrity is not worth the discussion You provide a service to us,but being for free!!!

DemAs.. I find it difficult to agree with Your opinion. this is a banal hooliganism shaped.. cluttering the forum with a bunch of useless informaciyu.. and epithets about the service -- I wonder from Your words.

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 0:22

Джедай wrote:It would be a great mistake to think (V. I. Lenin, PSS, V. 41, p. 55. ) that the Explorer necessarily pripodneset you manna from heaven on a silver platter with a gold platter. Necessary own efforts. The change itself should be approached consciously, with the understanding that the process can be long and difficult, taking on full responsibility for any results.

Golden words!

Евгений Кош · Post by **Евгений Кош** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 0:32

Милена wrote: Eugene, indeed, only an Amateur will do the advertising slogan, not carrying a suggestion. And You surely have noticed that in each of these appeals contains installation, except bread Borodino (better – "Bread is a head").

I think nothing is in vain You think so. And I have no allergies to Explore.

No need to juggle, I start to get tired.

About the forum about the Explorer – open your eyes finally, 99.9% of the listening disk describe the features of being in the trance condition. It's interesting. Open the tutorial, compare. More importantly, WHAT IT LEADS TO. Some people train the muscles, and someone sits down to practice trance state.

.....removed a lot of blah blah blah.....

I wish you luck.

1. Bread Borodino - 8 rubles.. "installing" for what it is worth the money for the price tag..
2. Where I wrote that you are allergic to "conductor"? the quote in the Studio!
3. You might be getting tired of juggling their own.. ( and took up about allergies to the "Explorer".. when the conversation was about exceptions).
4. I like to chat with people.. it's fascinating

.. however, in Your case - You write, not of himself.. You copy a direct of others ( sometimes even a lot stupid) phrases, sentences, thoughts.. it Turns out that instead of talking with You, You tell me - palming other people's thoughts thereby tricking .. but a crime is not it. .and the fact that You didn't even bother to UNDERSTAND not to mention the effort on combining sentences in the linked text.. and not in a set of verbal diarrhea like - "Now we should talk about the correlation of the degree of deprivation - the degree of psychosomatic razdavlivanija, on somatogenic stability of the individual different types of deprivation, including social. The degree of tolerance to sensory overload, rupture of the kinesthetic or other templates of adaptive response, as well as to frustration "something" - deception." "

P. S. and about the particle "no" -

think what you want

it is Your right.. I'll use what works

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Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 0:32

Джедай wrote:Indicative "stoic" attitude of Andrew raised on the forum noise. Apparently - this is not the first such case, and probably not the last.

I have spent many years trying to understand (so far unsuccessfully

) of people. Try something to object to when you say: "You're a jerk, because all the goats..." it's Useless to even attempt to walk construcive as for a normal discussion is not designed. I look, and then I'll lay it out for you, although most members of the forum and already basically all is clear...

Джим · Post by **Джим** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:01

Dear not-enemies
Surely no one is still faced with individual rejection (intolerance) texts of "under the BB?"
No idea how to react?
And why so many words when you can just ask the person not to listen to It? (Well, 'do not like-do not listen')?
Of course, I don't know what is trance and so on. But -- judging by moroznym CD they do have some conditions for me (for me) caught up .... unpleasant to say -- wrong will themselves "the state" was fairly neutral -- the Fruits -- that's really not too (sorry, not sharing the experience -- enough that I'm following them several. times I Wake up screaming -- for 20 years I have never experienced it).
But by themselves BB session (especially if you take all the good and discard all ineffective) -- very even.

Аксакал · Post by **Аксакал** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 6:05

Milena

accountant Allen Carr who developed the system of "Easy way to quit Smoking", using the tools of NLP, who died recently, sadly, from lung cancer. Simple owner, it can be downloaded on the Internet really helps people to quit Smoking, BUT only once. If the client, after several months of abstinence from the cigarette, sticks it in his mouth, believing that controlling the result, then how much would he have not read this book again and applied it to different parts of your body, including the "third" eye – he still smokes.

Carr don't touch is sacred.
If that is Your opinion about Karr, it is very superficialis.
if I read somewhere, that do not read on the walls.

I Quit Smoking on Carr, I recommend the book really helps.

Евгений Кош · Post by **Евгений Кош** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 0:07

Милена wrote: For example: well, let's try again: "And looking at their way of life, you can immerse yourself protected in the memories of someone You loved and who loved and protected You."

Wonderful words. I'm starting to think, of course, their loved ones, tune into "pleasant" memories.

"about what You have learned and what we still have to learn, because any person and any situation in which we have met in life has left in our soul an indelible fingerprints and literally become parts of ourselves and these parts live with us and serve us, even despite the fact that some of them our mind once rejected and pushed away"

I'm suspicious (check the word "fingerprints" at least through the system of BAAL (is a truncated demo version). What are these prints? Oh yeah) it is written as "INDELIBLE." And why my mind had pushed away someone I love, and who loved and cared about me?

"But we can accept them and forgive them, because now they have our
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by converting them to more pleasant and acceptable".

Here's reflecting hi – it turns out that my pleasant memories contain unpleasant and repulsive memories? Okay. So be it, the more it is good "chatting up" me.

"So You can forget about what you can remember" - to comment on generally will not.

Milena, if You feel everything is normal.. and nothing is repelled. and dreams and etc... and etc.. what You "pulled" on the "file Explorer"?
As the saying goes - a healthy man in the direction drugs are not looking..
Simplify the phrase for You personally .. - "Explorer" milestones in normal relationships, people don't listen to him.. listen to only the people with problems.. different..
Who has no problem - he does not need it.. But once You are "led" to "Explorer" - Your behavior showed that You have problems. From here conclude that Your heated debate "there is no installation/no plants" is part of Your Crazy personality...
This reminds me of resistance to change.. find anything.. from a cold, diarrhea.. hemorrhoids.. to criticism of the competence of the doctor.. just to stay as you are ..

Milena .. You're on "the conductor" drew attention to resit their problems - well, you decide:) and the impression that You solve the problems "Explorer" and Andrey Patrushev ( although You did not ask).. forgetting about their day to day problems..

what useful I can tell a person with similar behavior, which is a huge part of their energy is spent on anything just not yourself? leaving your sore at yourself.. and protecting her in any way/by the way.. and how they perceive Your broadcasting ? Yes, even crazy the floodplain which is the word of the Abnormal person.. .

ie another crazy trying to operate with scientific terms:)) what else to add. nothing.

You look at the forum.. look what are you doing here forumyane.. they seek and share different ways of development of a personality.. One is not suitable "conductor" - he picks up for himself Sessi on mindmachine, counseling with those who have already tried the third.. third.. people are busy WORKING on the development of (normalization) self.. and they have no time to criticize the fact that they did not fit.. they know what to look for what is right.. and not to waste your precious time on "incineration foaming at the mouth" that did not fit.. because that will change and the purpose of life with personal development.. to "be stupid/hysterical"...
First, decide what You want from life.. and then the behavior will become easier and clearer.. we can begin to determine where do not behave in line with the "path".. but where it is necessary to insist on.

You should think and solve their issues...
I wish for me and for forumyan for You .. all was best for each image.. this put more strength to his own person.. otherwise nothing You can't get there either .. nor there.<

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:44

Eugene Kosh
Well...signed with the blood under Your words!!!!

've read now all the posts and wanted to write the same thing and You beat me to it!

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 12:14

Dimas wrote:Eugene Kosh
Well...signed with the blood under Your words!!!! 've read now all the posts and wanted to write the same thing and You beat me to it!

No, Dim, we need to be kinder...

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 12:17

Andrei Patrushev
And I'm good!!!Well, just don't like trolls

Евгений Кош · Post by **Евгений Кош** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 12:20

Dimas wrote:Andrei Patrushev
And I'm good!!!Well, just don't like trolls

Now I subscribe to Your

)))!

Остров · Post by **Остров** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 22:40

Hello everybody!

Guys, I want to intercede for the girl. Reread everything you've written in a noble effort to protect the Conductor from the machinations of enemies and fault... what did that?

With that the girl expressed, not even a distrust, not of doubt, and... just sharing my fears. And instead of helping her you began to accept all of what she said with hostility. You guys do not toil foolishness, pliz, and indeed, the casual observer may have doubts about the usefulness of the guide, too inappropriately you react.

Okay, back to our sheep, or rather, the topic of conversation. The guide I wrote in the mail and, unfortunately, listened until in fits and starts (can't yet find the necessary peace and quiet, a little baby that needs attention, then something else..

By the way, Andrew, you can barely complain about the fact that all the envelopes c and the CD was broken, not the fault of the mail, and just by itself the quality of the envelopes is poor, they simply crumble in your hands?:)

So. Installations may be in Explorer not. Dear Millena and reinsured (which, by the way, stress!!! understandable and thoughtful of her). In any case, explicit calls, such as, for example, to vote for the WFP and United Russia, I have not heard;) Listen, I'll drive (because the money paid it's a pity;) But seriously, in my opinion, some phrases in the file Explorer are...ERM..a heavy emotional load, which is not good.

I mean that any, even a very positive proposal (I as a journalist and scholar say:) at the wrong building and frequent use of negative words can be perceived at a subconscious level, to put it mildly, not as we would have liked. I also, like many here, quite well-read man;) I read at the time, a lot of literature on psychology and things like that..blah blah blah.. but not to use many sorts of abstruse and not shipping people reduce them to one single claim. ANY POSITIVITY CAN TURN INTO NEGATIVITY, IS ONLY A FEW TIMES IN THE PHRASE TO USE A COUPLE BAD WORDS.

With great respect to all looking for:)

PS. It's not hitting

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Евгений Кош · Post by **Евгений Кош** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 0:33

Остров wrote:Hello Everybody!

Guys, I want to intercede for the girl. Reread everything you've written in a noble effort to protect the Conductor from the machinations of enemies and carping...

Me You hard to understand.. what "protect" You want it?

the girl replied that "conductor" does not fit all.. on this if she has any doubts - even doubts and puts the disk in the direction of... Others ...and the more offensive sentences - fiction

Остров · Post by **Остров** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:03

Евгений Кош wrote:
Остров wrote:Hello Everybody!

Guys, I want to intercede for the girl. Reread everything you've written in a noble effort to protect the Conductor from the machinations of enemies and carping...
Me You hard to understand.. what "protect" You want it?

the girl replied that "conductor" does not fit all.. on this if she has any doubts - even doubts and puts the disk in the direction of... Others ...and the more offensive sentences - fiction

No, well, what constructive!

I thought forums are designed to discuss various topics.

People came here to discuss something. In this case, you brought the whole process of discussion to one: like, not like-do not eat! And when people tried to insist to be heard and helped, just pushed. I'm sorry, You also difficult to understand.

Лилка · Post by **Лилка** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:33

Welcome all!!!

Excuse me please, Island(and not voprinimaet this question as "hitting" or the prosecution, well to ask PTS), but You carefully read the posts Milena? Here everything is clear... And everyone has done a conclusion, that is why.

Остров wrote:I thought the forums are designed to discuss various topics.

so, did 7 pages of posts in Mileninoy company - this is not a discussion??????

Остров · Post by **Остров** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:04

Dear Lily, so I also made a withdrawal)) Which is clearly not enough Milena is clarity of thought. What do her you can blame is fucking confusion, which she then piled with your way, feed and, incidentally, help.

It is known fact, who thinks clearly, he clearly States;)

What was she trying to prove here, not immediately understandable. However you could try)) Which no one, unfortunately, did not)).

Something she, in my opinion, right. And I already wrote about this. This is my subjective personal opinion.

Лилка · Post by **Лилка** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:55

Make (think constructive) offer -

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ALL OPINIONS about the correctness/incorrectness, understanding/misunderstanding, guilty/not guilty, etc, etc with the person and without;.... requests, suggestions and accusations.... to Express outside of this topic
(on the forum you can find a much suitable place for it !!!

)
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PS ... catch and stones in their gardens...!!!

p. S. S. ... by the way, this message can be "thrown out" there too !!! ))))))

Остров · Post by **Остров** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:29

Dear Lily!

Certainly, making the proposal, You are guided by the best intentions. However, there is a danger therefore "swing" set by the member of the forum, questions that relate specifically to this topic.

This is not the way out. In my opinion, constructive can be achieved. Only need to be able to listen to each other and to be tolerant of those who do not share Your point of view:)